This system of collective ownership doesn't work at even the most basic level. Babies and children use the sidewalks which they did not pay for. Their parents may have paid for them, but did they get charged extra in taxes for having kids who would be using the system without paying in? No, actually they got tax DEDUCTIONS for reproducing!
Our government system rewards people for being unproductive.
The sweet spot is where you and I and all of our neighbors are free to choose (without coercion), which roads to pay for and drive on, which schools to pay for and send your kids to, and which person to throw a bone to when they need help. Anything less than that is force and barbarism at it core, and you can't hold civilization together with barbarism. It's an inherent contradiction and is ultimately unsustainable.
@phi50 your sweet spot leaves out convenience where you're driving on your predetermined roads then suddenly have to go to a new place and have to wait in line to pay a toll. when you walk nyc streets and have to pay by the yard. when in desperate need of water but can't use the water fountain because you're from outta state & didn't pay to use it. there's a difference in book ideology & everyday life. unsustainable? your "free" market have never existed, talking about unsustainable. pfft
@khemeticone That the "free market" never existed, is not an evaluation of its merit, merely a commentary on the human condition for nearly all of human history. It's called tyranny. Slavery of the many by the few. That is was/is the norm does not make it preferable, nor worth preserving if we can do better. I say we can, and it comes down to consentual relationships between human beings being better than ones initiated under the threat, or actual use of violence.
@khemeticone If you are trumping a person's property rights with convenience, you're advocating a world where I can kick in your door and help myself to your things merely because I think that is more convenient than earning or buying those things myself. If property rights take a back seat to convenience, we will all quickly find we have no rights at all. Someone will find your rights 'inconvenient'.
@phi50 then every time you walk on a sidewalk that your tax money didn't pay for, you should pay them money. every time you're out and need a drink of water, you'd better hope you're in your local city or you'll get a bill. you see? we are a society. if you want to live alone in the bush, go ahead. other wise you won't be able to get to that interview because you haven't pre paid to use their street, so get in line. even you wouldn't like that. you're just too busy clinging to you ideology
@khemeticone You can't wrap your head around EZPass? And because of that, you can see no solution to life's problems other than to send armed men to my house to either take my money, imprison me, or kill me? You are relying on a crutch called the state that can only rob, imprison, and kill, and this is the best you can do? And I'm clinging to my ideology? Well, yes, I am, because it beats the fuck outta yours. You've done nothing to discredit a voluntary society,except reveal your character
@khemeticone You can't wrap your head around EZPass? And because of that, you can see no solution to life's problems other than to send armed men to my house to either take my money, imprison me, or kill me? You are relying on a crutch called the state that can only rob, imprison, and kill, and this is the best you can do? And I'm clinging to my ideology? Well, yes, I am, because it beats the fuck outta yours. You've done nothing to discredit a voluntary society,except reveal your character
Contemplate these words: Society. Cohesion. Synergy. Cooperation. Sharing. Do you know what these have in common with your expressed world view. Exactly nothing - They're in complete opposition. These words are the basis for civilization as we know it. Your ideology of greed and MINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINE may well end it. You should think about that before you commit yourself.
there is no simple rule that will absolve you of the responsibility to think.
small government, maximum liberty. done. now i can turn off my mind and apply that to all situations. sorry, it doesnt work. unless you care more about your ideological purity than practical results.
When money goes to foreign countries it is stolen loot taken from the US taxpayer and given to foreigners. It is stolen money. Where it goes after that is irrelevant to the nature of its taking.
Your speech is that you would prefer to use the stolen money domestically. How about not stealing it at all?
As for the poor, the standard of living rose incredibly UNTIL the Great Society started. Maybe adding parasites (middlemen) to the system didn't help.
Ask youself this: If the police were gone and you had to organize protection for yourself, would it cost you less? You now pay around 50% of your income, all taxes included, for government. So, if personal security was your primary goal you and your neighbor could get together and hire a personal security guard for yourselves for the same cost as the gov.
How much does it cost to pave a road? Not very much.
Ron Paul supporters are willing to give up so much social progress in the hope for ending the wars. Obama said he would end the wars too I would think twice before voting on any one making that promise.
No Presidential candidate can end the wars. In modern day America the military-industrial complex is much more powerful than any elected candidate, or even all of them put together. A vote for Ron Paul is a protest vote whether people realize it or not.
@bigotmaster if roads are necessary for commerce, let commerce pay. why should MY money be used for commerce that i might not eve participate in? why should MY money be used for others' social interaction any more than their health. if a business makes a personal choice to be on a street, they should pay then. if you need social interaction in my state, you should pay. i shouldn't have to fund it. why should i have to fund your social interaction or to help some business any more than health?
@unforgivingreality so wait. you removed your comment to get away from me... but here you are still leaving new messages, sans the mistaken one. it just keeps getting better.
never said tax on gas doesn't happen, just that it's not the only fee that pays for roads. many other state taxes do so kinda renders your point moot and you know this. that's why you removed your faulty message. when backed into corner, remove the lie & call me a troll. doesn't change the facts buddy
@unforgivingreality you just like and made up information, that's why you removed your lying comment. why talk about something you know nothing about? unforigivingREALITY? you're nothing like your profile name.
@unforgivingreality gas tax only covers a portion of road and highway maintenance einstein. other state taxes cover the bulk. and if ron paul walks on nyc sidewalks, he's still freeloading. FOLLOW INFORMATION not your political hack agenda. derp
lol you're trying to show that freedom has its inconveniences. If a business inconveniences you, you could use another provider. If a bureaucrat inconveniences you.... your fffffd. You pay for your internet, tv and phone services at least more freely,
Does their service bother you? You're less with us or against us than me? im fine leaving each other alone, just dont think its ok to force taxes on me. In short, you started it. Freedom is the only live and let live out there.
@182511419139208 i love it when people make up "facts." roads are maintained by states which get their money from STATE taxes, particularly from gasoline sales. it doesn't come from federal money. you don't know what you're talking about.
@igotsissues Have you heard of the Federal-Aid Highway Act? It was a federal law that used federal money to build the interstate highway system. The reason many states have a legal drinking age of 21 is because that is a condition for receiving federal aid for road maintenance. There was money in the recent stimulus bill that was allocated to road restoration.
I love it when people just declare something false because they do not like the truth.
@182511419139208 eggzactly. INTERstate highways. but intrastate roads and freeways are funded intrastate. so back to the point, why should you be able to come to where i live and drive on my dime? hell why should you be able to use my sidewalks, water fountains, parks?
i love it when people lose an argument, so pretend they're done, go back & do research only to find the wrong info. i thought you erased ur mssg cuz i was a troll? you're the one writing on my channel, getting personal. ur turn
@igotsissues You must not have read the whole comment. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act did allocate federal money not to just the interstate but municipal roads as well as other infrastructure projects. They would have a sign near the road saying "Project funded by American Recovery and Reinvestment Act". The states are in charge of maintaining all of the roads within a state even if you live in some little piss hole town in the middle of nowhere.
@182511419139208 that was a bill enacted in 2009 & modified in 2010 to supplement primary long standing funding by MY state taxes. how long has ron paul been stomping my state prior to 2009? i want MY money. so for the bulk of streets that needed no tending over the last 2 years, they were built w/ my money, so you should have to pay a fee to walk on them . besides that bill is only a supplement in response to the economy.
@igotsissues The National Minimum Drinking Age Act (I have mentioned this previously) mandates that states make 21 the legal age to buy alcohol. You know what happens if they don't? They lose federal money that is annually appointed to the states. That means the federal government has been funding your roads. Everyone is already paying for each others roads.
A good bust on the free-market-at-all-costs silliness—including RP. I know you didn’t go into “religious economics” on this one, but I thought I’d offer a note on Christian lines. Christian free-marketers love to talk about how the sharing of the apostles wasn’t compulsory. That’s true—but what they leave out is the apostles’ faith in the Holy Spirit was so strong merely lying around them would cause you to fall dead (Ananias & Sapphira). That hasn’t happened to too many GOP Christians.
I feel like Ron Paul is the only candidate out there who would actually make an honest attempt to get us out of Iraq and afghanistan, as well as attempt to cut down its budget some. It kills me that on every other issue, he is stuck in 1776 or retarded
@gohoggyourself Correction: He is stuck in 1787, when the Constitution was written. But hey if he's elected President he can bring the troops home right away and for "every other issue" he'll have to go through congress first so no worries.
@einLesenderArbeiter It was 8AM when I wrote that and I was too lazy too look up the actual date of the constitution, regardless, those who wrote the constitution voiced the same general ideas in 1776 as they did in 1787. Funny thing is, in 1776 the government they setup proved that they are like all of us, and aren't perfect, so it's safe to assume (contrary to these"Constitutionalists), that the constitution is not perfect either.
Protean I thought you were joking with the roads and Paul until I watched up to the ending and said "This mofo was serious"
aha
I understand the point you were making but in reality, even if roads were privatized, sharing would be allowed and encouraged, otherwise, what's the point of them?
It's like you visiting me at home and sleeping over, I pay for it but you are using it also, we wouldn't view that as the same as healthcare now would we? lol
@x0TheJackal0x i think everyone understands that by now but it still entails you paying for roads in your city that you might not use. it still means i can come to your town and free load on the roads your taxes paid for.
@igotsissues obviously you don't understand free market road systems. who said anything about taxes? roads can be built without extortion and theft. there are already private road systems that are paid for only by the people who use them.
try to think about things in economic rather than political terms, you might be surprised what you can come up with.
@x0TheJackal0x but here is where it fails: there will be extra/wasted manpower or resources needed to monitor who is driving on what road for what rate and good luck getting that money without "extortion or theft". Give an idiot a little idea and a little information and suddenly they feel empowered to type letters in an internet forum.
@ManjixIchigo if you are honestly interested in the free rider problem and don't just have your mind made up and are trying to "pwn" somebody on the internet based on what little understanding you have of the matter, go read mises, rothbard, friedman, or any of the other myriad austrian economists who have been writing about this stuff for decades. there would be no need to monitor people on private roads any more than there currently is on private road systems that *already exist.*
@ManjixIchigo also i can't think of any more extra/wasted manpower and resources than the state, so if that's your concern, a centralized, statist road authority is hardly the answer.
@x0TheJackal0x ur pretending to know ron paul's stance. so if i only use these three streets, but suddenly meet a friend on another, is there going to be some toll booth for me to pay for what i drive on? if you go to omaha, you'll have to pay a dozen different tolls for different groups of streets. man you're making a fool of yourself. there are some toll roads & private residential roads, but the idea of a network of private road systems on business streets makes as much sense as my example.
@igotsissues personally i'm uninterested in ron paul's stance, as i don't involve myself in failed statist politics any more. as i told manjix, if you are really interested in how open market road systems would be handled, go read austrian economists who have been talking about these sorts of things for decades. private road systems already exist and the only tolls i've ever paid have been on public roads. i'm not the fool just because you can't figure out how roads might work on a total market.
I think someone missed the entire point of the video...
There is no "magic ideology" that makes everything perfect. The very idea limits your thinking. The world is much more complex than the simplistic economic logic that I hear coming out of most libertarians.
It's not a matter "figuring out" how roads would work. The facts is they DIDN'T work. Which is why we created a federal highway program. Same goes for the military, parks, post office, healthcare, etc.
@oolong2 that's a lovely straw-man. i never said anything was going to be "perfect" (whatever that means) under any system, and neither did anybody else, as i recall.
also, what private road, park, mail delivery, and healthcare system(s) are you referring to that "didn't work?" or are you just pulling things out of thin air to make some vague argument for the perceived necessity of some monopolistic, hegemonic, centralized statist system?
lol.. You acuse me of a strawman then create your own? I was explaining to you the point of the video.
My point however is simple. Those services and plans were created out of need. If those needs were met for safety, message delivery, and interstate driving, there wouldn't be a need to come togoether and perform government action.
So you're saying you don't think it's necessary for any centralized authority then? Are you advocating for tribalism then?
"Those services and plans were created out of need. If those needs were met . . . there wouldn't be a need to come togoether and perform government action."
state programs are hardly borne out of necessity. we had roads, parks, mail, and hospitals before state programs for these existed. are you willing to argue that every state program is necessary? because in order to be logically consistent, you would, otherwise you are contradicting yourself and your argument is self-detonating.
So we had state parks and state postal service before we had a state... Right.
And I guess the founders were all idiots and just imagined a need for roads and a post office in the constitution.... Right.
Wow... a *classic* strawman. By saying that some government programs are beneficial is by no means the same as saying "every state program is necessary".
It's like saying because water is beneficial means that floods are great and we should all live in the ocean....
"So we had state parks and state postal service before we had a state..." did i say that? no, i said: "we had roads, parks, mail, and hospitals before state programs for these existed."
what the founders did or didn't say or imagine is irrelevant to this conversation.
your argument was: "Those services and plans were created out of need." this asserts that the existence of state programs is proof of their necessity. by that logic, all state programs are necessary or they wouldn't exist.
Ok.... exactly what *non* state parks and non "state mail service" did we have then? It's your claim so I assume you have some evidence of it?
We had roads but they were almost all DIRT with a few cobblestone roads in cities.
-"this asserts that the existence of state programs is proof of their necessity"
No actually it just asserts what it says. "Those services" does not equate to "All services". Otherwise one would simply say "All services" now wouldn't they?
i'm finished with this 500 character-limit "internet argument" nonsense. make a video if you are genuinely interested in further discussion and i'll make a video response.
if i may quote another youtuber: "this is youtube, not youtype."
@oolong2 you said, "It's not a matter "figuring out" how roads would work. The facts is they DIDN'T work. Which is why we created a federal highway program." you seem to be saying private roads failed, along with military, parks, mail delivery, and health care. where did i straw-man?
no, i'm not a tribalist. honestly i find "comment debates" tiresome. if you want to go into this, make a video and i'll respond with a vid of my own.
also if you think austrian economics is somehow more simplistic than statist "one size fits all" thinking then you need to go do some reading on the subject.
I disagree with Ron Paul on many issues, but I have always believed that he considers the issues honestly and comes to a conclusion based on his beliefs.
Does Ron Paul actually believe the Republican/Conservative view when it comes to collective benefit applying to only those who can afford it?
I've not heard him say that. What have I missed?
That does not sound like the person I respect, but disagree with.
Ron Paul does not tow any specific line. He seems balanced in his views.
That is a fair critique of Ron Paul... but i still would vote for him and want him to be president. I think he probably understands your criticism, but just continues to talk the way he does because it gets the general principle of his message out while avoiding all the detailed complexities and contradictions. Much in the same way everyone talks about politics.
I'm glad more and more people are seeing through the Cult of Ron Paul. I didn't expect you to be quite so outspoken in your criticism though Proteanview. I give you a lot of credit for that.
Sorry for hogging the comments, but I just have to respond to some of the bashing going on here. From personal face to face experience in meet-up groups and other political action groups who support Dr. Paul, that there isn't one person I've met who is a blind follower simply regurgitating things Dr. Paul says. I fear there are a lot of rpTrollbots our there on the web that do a pretty good job of making us all look like mindless clones with libertarian stamped to our foreheads. That's not us.
We should understand that Dr. Paul wants a transition away from a entitlement system while at the same time massively reducing overseas spending to fund the very social programs that he wants to slowly faze out. To me this seems like a worthwhile experiment. Lets bring all that money back and put it towards the debt to pay for all the social systems we have without borrowing a penny more. This seems feasible and sensible to a liberal like myself who as a Canadian knows social systems well.
Ok I have to say it. I admit ron Paul is not honest but what politition is honest? An honest polotition does not exist. The people need to just take our power back. As far as health cair we need a canadian style health cair plan. Every one is the states cobered with out having to pay for the insurance.
so he's dishonest because he cannot control the fact that roads are paved by tax dollars? Should he only walk on grass?As for his friend- he FREELY chose to give 50,000 dollars. It isn't Ron Paul's fault that healthcare is so expensive. Rather than discovering WHY healthcare is so expensive, and discovering how to reduce costs, proteanview's solution is, FREE HEALTHCARE FOR EVERYONE.
Has he not seen what's going on in Europe? And they don't have the military industrial complex
@marcdaddy33 I am not claiming ron paul is dishonest for certin however the fact that he is a politition meanes there is about a 99% chance he is. Honest polotititions have a very short run in office if they get in they either get impeached, curupted, or assasonated. I was being sarcastic about honest polotititions not existing at all, They do just in small numbers. As far as the cost of health cair being so expensive is simple to answer! It is because of demand.
the answer is far more complicated than that. People will always need healthcare, but the government increases the costs for providers, thereby increasing prices.
I love Dr. Ron Paul. I think he is one of the few honest people in government. However, even though I am a big supporter of his, I strongly disagree with his views on things like the 'profit motive' which I just heard him speak of recently. Oddly though there is some truth even in this strict polarity. For example it is true that health care cost go DOWN and not up when the market is allowed to add more competition. This scares the left into thinking he is for evil corporate medicine.
@nekopheliac He is of course not for corporate medicine as he sees that as a response to government interference and choosing the winners and losers. Many on the left think that it is regulations which force the winners and losers to be chosen by the law. It is strictly not true and is perhaps the most damaging meme that liberals have trapped themselves in. Laws are good, proper rules are good, but when you take property rights you see that all the regulations are nothing but wind in comparison.
I don't get why so many libertarians blindly follow an ideology like dogma. I don't care if you call it "Free Market", "Freedom", or "Liberty". There is NO "magic system" that somehow makes the universe perfect.
It's just people coming deciding what's best for themselves and thier community. THAT is "government"... Yes it can be corrupted, but it's not the boogeyman coming to get you.
Leave the ideology behind, gather information & statistics, and just "think".
You don't understand the human freedom RP is speaking of -- humans wouldn't pay taxes simply because you cannot tax your right to earn an income. Corporations can be taxes though, and it is they who would pay.
protean view why do u have a boner in hating this guys ron paul? hes the only chance we have in the bullshit mess we are in...do u realize how fucked our economy really is? its the equivalent of a house of cards....im not saying that paul will wave a wand and fix it...im saying that he can set this country up so within a decade we can be on the track to recovery rather than plunging into the worst depression. i like ur videos but here is were you ARE SO WRONG!!
@humanequilibrium Pro has made a number of pro Paul vids. Pro has come out in support of RP. He's just not someone who is afraid to say he doesn't support everything. That's the point I think. You don't have to be a all/nothing follower to support someone. AmazingAth made a vid about people who follow him like a god. You misunderstand his motives I think maybe because you are a hack
@khemeticone im not a hack, not really sure what that is....i haven't seen his pro paul videos and i personally like protein views stance on many things...i don't agree with him on this issue so that makes me a hack....dude what the hell does that even mean?
You also missed the spin Democrats are trying to put on this. The guy received treatment. IF you are arguing costs, then you have to understand that US healthcare costs are artificially raised to astronomical levels. Once you account for that, things are quite clear. Problem is.. emotionalists cannot dare to think beyond "Oh! So Horrible!". Well.. having "insurance" =/= "getting medical care", shouldn't be so either!
@utubehayter the hospital charged 400k. they only came up with 50k. LUCKILY the hospital didn't come for the rest. could've easily refused to treat. govt made prices too high? not in europe & it's more socialized. but suppose it was 200k or even 150k. STILL not enough. not about dems or repubs. not about emotions. it's about humanity. this hard working, tax paying man couldn't afford covg. his "friends & family & church" couldn't either, even if half price. u make excuses to be a hack
This is what happens when you actively take measures to protect a trade from competition.. in this case the medical establishment, the pharma establishment, the workers unions, the insurance companies. Now, you can go fully socialized and sweep the costs under the magic rug of taxes (i.e. someone else's pocket.. NOT YOUR OWN), like EU countries have done for years. Sure, and they also deny procedures, because no procedure means no cost.
Ron Paul is already saying he wants to do what you ask him to do! Atleast about roads and water.. don't know where you pin the foreign aid and "liberate foreigners" idea from. Maybe you were being sarcastic?
I agree, but in a way people pay as they go along on the road through gas tax. I think currently, 75% of gax tax funds roads projects and the rest goes to random stuff. The more you drive the more you pay.
As you aptly point out sometimes you have to sacrifice 'fairness' for convenience and practicality. Libertarians enjoy deluded themselves (and trying to convince us) that their unpractised theology is as convenient and practical as it is 'fair'.
@smpunditz (love your videos, have watched many of them) I think the Randroid theories are quite pragmatically sound. Though, I must proffer that they do not take into account the immaterial concerns such as the need for structure and consistency without having to implant a futuristic device in your lungs to measure how much of their precious air you are breathing in order to toll you appropriately (better smoke to lower your VO2 max in a libertarian paradise :) )
@smpunditz (love your videos, have watched many of them) I think the Randroid theories are quite pragmatically sound. Though, I must proffer that they do not take into account the immaterial concerns such as the need for structure and consistency without having to implant a futuristic device in your lungs to measure how much of their precious air you are breathing in order to toll you appropriately (better smoke to lower your VO2 max in a libertarian paradise :) )
You do realize that a mileage tax has been and is currently being talked about, correct? No offence, because truly I really enjoy your videos and respect you as a free thinker, but if Limbaugh's "being ridiculous to demonstrate ridiculousness" doesn't really work why should it work any better for you???
Ron Paul has a lot of faults, but I still think he's the only candidate that has a shot that will actually change the U.S. for the better. You think Rick Perry or Obama are going to push through universal healthcare? Not a chance.
i think i remember going through that "super heat chucking technology" It's a little difficult but no more difficult than considering where does the energy go. In most cases it goes upward or into the sky. It's because we are force to use bad power tech and it kick off most of the calories as heat energy. There is a way to do better (not just a little better) You can save so much that it would make fuel growing feasible. That's why and how we are controled by use of power or energy.
'Society' is just the excuse for the Taxation that is stolen from you in the name of building those very trinkets you mention - the ones you would deny anyone not in your little particular 'society'.
I understand your 'ownership', but that is your problem and not someone elses.
The fact is, that just like some Apaches, you lay ownership to something that you would deny to anyone else for lack of tribute.
Your analogy only works when the visitor to your town isn't a foreigner. Talk about hypocrisy. Why should we pay for French streets when we don't use them? Wouldn't it make more sense to pay as we use?
I can't tell if you hate or like RP, but even if you do, check this out:
In the coming 2-3 years (if not sooner) America will be brutally raped by the inevitable hyper inflation, which leads to more war. And guess what? Iran!!!
Iran is a big trade partner of Russia and China, and if I'm not wrong, the Chinese leader himself said - "War with Iran is war with China."
WORLD WAR to be specific. Or even worse: Nuclear war = end of life on earth.
protean bro you usually have good points about Jews and Israel but you're way off base with Libertarianism. i know you really believe what you're saying and you have the right to that opinion ... but you're wrong. i really don't want to waste my channel on videos to explain such banalities as this - if you just make the effort to understand Libertarianism i think you should be able to do it without my help.
Whoa, you goin against holy Ron Paul?
I thought you were knee-deep in the Paul-Rand cult.
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This system of collective ownership doesn't work at even the most basic level. Babies and children use the sidewalks which they did not pay for. Their parents may have paid for them, but did they get charged extra in taxes for having kids who would be using the system without paying in? No, actually they got tax DEDUCTIONS for reproducing!
Our government system rewards people for being unproductive.
andrewh817 5 months ago
boy you look handsome in this video. Maybe it's just cuz o'yo brains
PracticeMakesAwesome 5 months ago
The sweet spot is where you and I and all of our neighbors are free to choose (without coercion), which roads to pay for and drive on, which schools to pay for and send your kids to, and which person to throw a bone to when they need help. Anything less than that is force and barbarism at it core, and you can't hold civilization together with barbarism. It's an inherent contradiction and is ultimately unsustainable.
phi50 5 months ago
@phi50 your sweet spot leaves out convenience where you're driving on your predetermined roads then suddenly have to go to a new place and have to wait in line to pay a toll. when you walk nyc streets and have to pay by the yard. when in desperate need of water but can't use the water fountain because you're from outta state & didn't pay to use it. there's a difference in book ideology & everyday life. unsustainable? your "free" market have never existed, talking about unsustainable. pfft
khemeticone 5 months ago
@khemeticone That the "free market" never existed, is not an evaluation of its merit, merely a commentary on the human condition for nearly all of human history. It's called tyranny. Slavery of the many by the few. That is was/is the norm does not make it preferable, nor worth preserving if we can do better. I say we can, and it comes down to consentual relationships between human beings being better than ones initiated under the threat, or actual use of violence.
phi50 5 months ago
@khemeticone If you are trumping a person's property rights with convenience, you're advocating a world where I can kick in your door and help myself to your things merely because I think that is more convenient than earning or buying those things myself. If property rights take a back seat to convenience, we will all quickly find we have no rights at all. Someone will find your rights 'inconvenient'.
phi50 5 months ago
@phi50 then every time you walk on a sidewalk that your tax money didn't pay for, you should pay them money. every time you're out and need a drink of water, you'd better hope you're in your local city or you'll get a bill. you see? we are a society. if you want to live alone in the bush, go ahead. other wise you won't be able to get to that interview because you haven't pre paid to use their street, so get in line. even you wouldn't like that. you're just too busy clinging to you ideology
khemeticone 5 months ago
@khemeticone You can't wrap your head around EZPass? And because of that, you can see no solution to life's problems other than to send armed men to my house to either take my money, imprison me, or kill me? You are relying on a crutch called the state that can only rob, imprison, and kill, and this is the best you can do? And I'm clinging to my ideology? Well, yes, I am, because it beats the fuck outta yours. You've done nothing to discredit a voluntary society,except reveal your character
phi50 5 months ago
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@khemeticone You can't wrap your head around EZPass? And because of that, you can see no solution to life's problems other than to send armed men to my house to either take my money, imprison me, or kill me? You are relying on a crutch called the state that can only rob, imprison, and kill, and this is the best you can do? And I'm clinging to my ideology? Well, yes, I am, because it beats the fuck outta yours. You've done nothing to discredit a voluntary society,except reveal your character
phi50 5 months ago
Haha it seems like more dumbasses didn't get the point of this video. Anyway, it's always refreshing to hear you speak about things.
FONEternal 5 months ago
sooo...why do you republicans hate helping people so much...and with that fact why are they one of the leading political parties in america? ... hmm
SeriouslyPissedOff 5 months ago
Contemplate these words: Society. Cohesion. Synergy. Cooperation. Sharing. Do you know what these have in common with your expressed world view. Exactly nothing - They're in complete opposition. These words are the basis for civilization as we know it. Your ideology of greed and MINEMINEMINEMINEMINEMINE may well end it. You should think about that before you commit yourself.
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xxhellspawnedxx 5 months ago
exactly WTF are you on about.this is a fucking waste of my 2 mins,cos i could nt bare anymore after that.
marcusguernsey 5 months ago
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@marcusguernsey
"exactly WTF are you on about.this is a fucking waste of my 2 mins,cos i could nt bare anymore after that."
Yeah, sort of like putting up with you Marcus. Too funny to see you try and critique other people. Is this all you got? I mean seriously?
followingtheplanets 5 months ago
there is no simple rule that will absolve you of the responsibility to think.
small government, maximum liberty. done. now i can turn off my mind and apply that to all situations. sorry, it doesnt work. unless you care more about your ideological purity than practical results.
underweightHater 5 months ago
Proteanview:
(further on):
When money goes to foreign countries it is stolen loot taken from the US taxpayer and given to foreigners. It is stolen money. Where it goes after that is irrelevant to the nature of its taking.
Your speech is that you would prefer to use the stolen money domestically. How about not stealing it at all?
As for the poor, the standard of living rose incredibly UNTIL the Great Society started. Maybe adding parasites (middlemen) to the system didn't help.
sdkee 5 months ago
Proteanview:
Ask youself this: If the police were gone and you had to organize protection for yourself, would it cost you less? You now pay around 50% of your income, all taxes included, for government. So, if personal security was your primary goal you and your neighbor could get together and hire a personal security guard for yourselves for the same cost as the gov.
How much does it cost to pave a road? Not very much.
How much does it cost to make a war....
sdkee 5 months ago
Ron Paul supporters are willing to give up so much social progress in the hope for ending the wars. Obama said he would end the wars too I would think twice before voting on any one making that promise.
MoMember88 5 months ago
@MoMember88
No Presidential candidate can end the wars. In modern day America the military-industrial complex is much more powerful than any elected candidate, or even all of them put together. A vote for Ron Paul is a protest vote whether people realize it or not.
Ponerology 5 months ago
Ron Paul is a fucking idiot. Cant believe this moron is a doctor. Take away his fucking license.
WKaliberr 5 months ago
I agree with Ron Paul when it comes to foreign policy but he is retarded when it comes to domestic policy.
xxdiogenescynicxx 5 months ago
if these visitors buy gas in your city, they are paying for the roads.
tourism generates revenue for a city regardless of the free water fountains & parks.
I live just outside the city. If I want to use the public library, I have to pay.
does your public library let people who live outside your city use it for free?
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SuperAtheist 5 months ago
@bigotmaster if roads are necessary for commerce, let commerce pay. why should MY money be used for commerce that i might not eve participate in? why should MY money be used for others' social interaction any more than their health. if a business makes a personal choice to be on a street, they should pay then. if you need social interaction in my state, you should pay. i shouldn't have to fund it. why should i have to fund your social interaction or to help some business any more than health?
igotsissues 5 months ago
@igotsissues WIN!
khemeticone 5 months ago
awesome.comparison.just.win
Paxmax 5 months ago
@unforgivingreality so wait. you removed your comment to get away from me... but here you are still leaving new messages, sans the mistaken one. it just keeps getting better.
never said tax on gas doesn't happen, just that it's not the only fee that pays for roads. many other state taxes do so kinda renders your point moot and you know this. that's why you removed your faulty message. when backed into corner, remove the lie & call me a troll. doesn't change the facts buddy
igotsissues 5 months ago
@unforgivingreality you just like and made up information, that's why you removed your lying comment. why talk about something you know nothing about? unforigivingREALITY? you're nothing like your profile name.
igotsissues 5 months ago
@unforgivingreality gas tax only covers a portion of road and highway maintenance einstein. other state taxes cover the bulk. and if ron paul walks on nyc sidewalks, he's still freeloading. FOLLOW INFORMATION not your political hack agenda. derp
igotsissues 5 months ago
lol you're trying to show that freedom has its inconveniences. If a business inconveniences you, you could use another provider. If a bureaucrat inconveniences you.... your fffffd. You pay for your internet, tv and phone services at least more freely,
Does their service bother you? You're less with us or against us than me? im fine leaving each other alone, just dont think its ok to force taxes on me. In short, you started it. Freedom is the only live and let live out there.
fishslappr 5 months ago
Washington, DC. The circle of wealth if you are on the inside. Extreme poverty on the outside. Just like a fast food chain.
jdrizd2 5 months ago
People often confuse Equall Opportunity with Equall Outcomes
Healthcare is simply another good and service
like a haircut. or a pedicure
put down the kool-aid
ShiekYerbooty 5 months ago
Roads are maintained by the states which are given federal money from the DOT if states comply with federal mandates. Ron Paul pays for your roads.
182511419139208 5 months ago
@182511419139208 i love it when people make up "facts." roads are maintained by states which get their money from STATE taxes, particularly from gasoline sales. it doesn't come from federal money. you don't know what you're talking about.
igotsissues 5 months ago
@igotsissues Have you heard of the Federal-Aid Highway Act? It was a federal law that used federal money to build the interstate highway system. The reason many states have a legal drinking age of 21 is because that is a condition for receiving federal aid for road maintenance. There was money in the recent stimulus bill that was allocated to road restoration.
I love it when people just declare something false because they do not like the truth.
182511419139208 5 months ago
@182511419139208 eggzactly. INTERstate highways. but intrastate roads and freeways are funded intrastate. so back to the point, why should you be able to come to where i live and drive on my dime? hell why should you be able to use my sidewalks, water fountains, parks?
i love it when people lose an argument, so pretend they're done, go back & do research only to find the wrong info. i thought you erased ur mssg cuz i was a troll? you're the one writing on my channel, getting personal. ur turn
igotsissues 5 months ago
@igotsissues You must not have read the whole comment. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act did allocate federal money not to just the interstate but municipal roads as well as other infrastructure projects. They would have a sign near the road saying "Project funded by American Recovery and Reinvestment Act". The states are in charge of maintaining all of the roads within a state even if you live in some little piss hole town in the middle of nowhere.
182511419139208 5 months ago
@182511419139208 that was a bill enacted in 2009 & modified in 2010 to supplement primary long standing funding by MY state taxes. how long has ron paul been stomping my state prior to 2009? i want MY money. so for the bulk of streets that needed no tending over the last 2 years, they were built w/ my money, so you should have to pay a fee to walk on them . besides that bill is only a supplement in response to the economy.
igotsissues 5 months ago
@igotsissues The National Minimum Drinking Age Act (I have mentioned this previously) mandates that states make 21 the legal age to buy alcohol. You know what happens if they don't? They lose federal money that is annually appointed to the states. That means the federal government has been funding your roads. Everyone is already paying for each others roads.
182511419139208 5 months ago
A good bust on the free-market-at-all-costs silliness—including RP. I know you didn’t go into “religious economics” on this one, but I thought I’d offer a note on Christian lines. Christian free-marketers love to talk about how the sharing of the apostles wasn’t compulsory. That’s true—but what they leave out is the apostles’ faith in the Holy Spirit was so strong merely lying around them would cause you to fall dead (Ananias & Sapphira). That hasn’t happened to too many GOP Christians.
freddietz96 5 months ago
I feel like Ron Paul is the only candidate out there who would actually make an honest attempt to get us out of Iraq and afghanistan, as well as attempt to cut down its budget some. It kills me that on every other issue, he is stuck in 1776 or retarded
gohoggyourself 5 months ago
@gohoggyourself Correction: He is stuck in 1787, when the Constitution was written. But hey if he's elected President he can bring the troops home right away and for "every other issue" he'll have to go through congress first so no worries.
einLesenderArbeiter 5 months ago
@einLesenderArbeiter It was 8AM when I wrote that and I was too lazy too look up the actual date of the constitution, regardless, those who wrote the constitution voiced the same general ideas in 1776 as they did in 1787. Funny thing is, in 1776 the government they setup proved that they are like all of us, and aren't perfect, so it's safe to assume (contrary to these"Constitutionalists), that the constitution is not perfect either.
gohoggyourself 5 months ago
Protean for President
MIvarsson99 5 months ago
Protean I thought you were joking with the roads and Paul until I watched up to the ending and said "This mofo was serious"
aha
I understand the point you were making but in reality, even if roads were privatized, sharing would be allowed and encouraged, otherwise, what's the point of them?
It's like you visiting me at home and sleeping over, I pay for it but you are using it also, we wouldn't view that as the same as healthcare now would we? lol
Iammram 5 months ago
"i can't figure out how roads would work in a free market, therefore libertarianism is invalid."
durrr.
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
@x0TheJackal0x i think everyone understands that by now but it still entails you paying for roads in your city that you might not use. it still means i can come to your town and free load on the roads your taxes paid for.
derp
igotsissues 5 months ago
@igotsissues obviously you don't understand free market road systems. who said anything about taxes? roads can be built without extortion and theft. there are already private road systems that are paid for only by the people who use them.
try to think about things in economic rather than political terms, you might be surprised what you can come up with.
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
@x0TheJackal0x but here is where it fails: there will be extra/wasted manpower or resources needed to monitor who is driving on what road for what rate and good luck getting that money without "extortion or theft". Give an idiot a little idea and a little information and suddenly they feel empowered to type letters in an internet forum.
ManjixIchigo 5 months ago
@ManjixIchigo if you are honestly interested in the free rider problem and don't just have your mind made up and are trying to "pwn" somebody on the internet based on what little understanding you have of the matter, go read mises, rothbard, friedman, or any of the other myriad austrian economists who have been writing about this stuff for decades. there would be no need to monitor people on private roads any more than there currently is on private road systems that *already exist.*
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
@ManjixIchigo also i can't think of any more extra/wasted manpower and resources than the state, so if that's your concern, a centralized, statist road authority is hardly the answer.
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
@x0TheJackal0x ur pretending to know ron paul's stance. so if i only use these three streets, but suddenly meet a friend on another, is there going to be some toll booth for me to pay for what i drive on? if you go to omaha, you'll have to pay a dozen different tolls for different groups of streets. man you're making a fool of yourself. there are some toll roads & private residential roads, but the idea of a network of private road systems on business streets makes as much sense as my example.
igotsissues 5 months ago
@igotsissues personally i'm uninterested in ron paul's stance, as i don't involve myself in failed statist politics any more. as i told manjix, if you are really interested in how open market road systems would be handled, go read austrian economists who have been talking about these sorts of things for decades. private road systems already exist and the only tolls i've ever paid have been on public roads. i'm not the fool just because you can't figure out how roads might work on a total market.
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
@x0TheJackal0x
I think someone missed the entire point of the video...
There is no "magic ideology" that makes everything perfect. The very idea limits your thinking. The world is much more complex than the simplistic economic logic that I hear coming out of most libertarians.
It's not a matter "figuring out" how roads would work. The facts is they DIDN'T work. Which is why we created a federal highway program. Same goes for the military, parks, post office, healthcare, etc.
oolong2 5 months ago
@oolong2 that's a lovely straw-man. i never said anything was going to be "perfect" (whatever that means) under any system, and neither did anybody else, as i recall.
also, what private road, park, mail delivery, and healthcare system(s) are you referring to that "didn't work?" or are you just pulling things out of thin air to make some vague argument for the perceived necessity of some monopolistic, hegemonic, centralized statist system?
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
@x0TheJackal0x
lol.. You acuse me of a strawman then create your own? I was explaining to you the point of the video.
My point however is simple. Those services and plans were created out of need. If those needs were met for safety, message delivery, and interstate driving, there wouldn't be a need to come togoether and perform government action.
So you're saying you don't think it's necessary for any centralized authority then? Are you advocating for tribalism then?
oolong2 5 months ago
"Those services and plans were created out of need. If those needs were met . . . there wouldn't be a need to come togoether and perform government action."
state programs are hardly borne out of necessity. we had roads, parks, mail, and hospitals before state programs for these existed. are you willing to argue that every state program is necessary? because in order to be logically consistent, you would, otherwise you are contradicting yourself and your argument is self-detonating.
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
@x0TheJackal0x
So we had state parks and state postal service before we had a state... Right.
And I guess the founders were all idiots and just imagined a need for roads and a post office in the constitution.... Right.
Wow... a *classic* strawman. By saying that some government programs are beneficial is by no means the same as saying "every state program is necessary".
It's like saying because water is beneficial means that floods are great and we should all live in the ocean....
oolong2 5 months ago
"So we had state parks and state postal service before we had a state..." did i say that? no, i said: "we had roads, parks, mail, and hospitals before state programs for these existed."
what the founders did or didn't say or imagine is irrelevant to this conversation.
your argument was: "Those services and plans were created out of need." this asserts that the existence of state programs is proof of their necessity. by that logic, all state programs are necessary or they wouldn't exist.
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
@x0TheJackal0x
Ok.... exactly what *non* state parks and non "state mail service" did we have then? It's your claim so I assume you have some evidence of it?
We had roads but they were almost all DIRT with a few cobblestone roads in cities.
-"this asserts that the existence of state programs is proof of their necessity"
No actually it just asserts what it says. "Those services" does not equate to "All services". Otherwise one would simply say "All services" now wouldn't they?
oolong2 5 months ago
i'm finished with this 500 character-limit "internet argument" nonsense. make a video if you are genuinely interested in further discussion and i'll make a video response.
if i may quote another youtuber: "this is youtube, not youtype."
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
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@oolong2 you said, "It's not a matter "figuring out" how roads would work. The facts is they DIDN'T work. Which is why we created a federal highway program." you seem to be saying private roads failed, along with military, parks, mail delivery, and health care. where did i straw-man?
no, i'm not a tribalist. honestly i find "comment debates" tiresome. if you want to go into this, make a video and i'll respond with a vid of my own.
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
also if you think austrian economics is somehow more simplistic than statist "one size fits all" thinking then you need to go do some reading on the subject.
x0TheJackal0x 5 months ago
Left Wing.
Right Wing.
Same bird.
NewTeutonicOrder2 5 months ago
I disagree with Ron Paul on many issues, but I have always believed that he considers the issues honestly and comes to a conclusion based on his beliefs.
Does Ron Paul actually believe the Republican/Conservative view when it comes to collective benefit applying to only those who can afford it?
I've not heard him say that. What have I missed?
That does not sound like the person I respect, but disagree with.
Ron Paul does not tow any specific line. He seems balanced in his views.
Joxman2k 5 months ago
so true protean, why am i paying for the local library when I don't even know how to read?
wafflethug 5 months ago
excellent video.
devonlloyd 5 months ago
That is a fair critique of Ron Paul... but i still would vote for him and want him to be president. I think he probably understands your criticism, but just continues to talk the way he does because it gets the general principle of his message out while avoiding all the detailed complexities and contradictions. Much in the same way everyone talks about politics.
return135 5 months ago
run for government dude u gotta stand up and be counted
eaststandred 5 months ago
I'm glad more and more people are seeing through the Cult of Ron Paul. I didn't expect you to be quite so outspoken in your criticism though Proteanview. I give you a lot of credit for that.
Zaunstar 5 months ago
Sorry for hogging the comments, but I just have to respond to some of the bashing going on here. From personal face to face experience in meet-up groups and other political action groups who support Dr. Paul, that there isn't one person I've met who is a blind follower simply regurgitating things Dr. Paul says. I fear there are a lot of rpTrollbots our there on the web that do a pretty good job of making us all look like mindless clones with libertarian stamped to our foreheads. That's not us.
nekopheliac 5 months ago
We should understand that Dr. Paul wants a transition away from a entitlement system while at the same time massively reducing overseas spending to fund the very social programs that he wants to slowly faze out. To me this seems like a worthwhile experiment. Lets bring all that money back and put it towards the debt to pay for all the social systems we have without borrowing a penny more. This seems feasible and sensible to a liberal like myself who as a Canadian knows social systems well.
nekopheliac 5 months ago
Ok I have to say it. I admit ron Paul is not honest but what politition is honest? An honest polotition does not exist. The people need to just take our power back. As far as health cair we need a canadian style health cair plan. Every one is the states cobered with out having to pay for the insurance.
jawj4291 5 months ago
@jawj4291
so he's dishonest because he cannot control the fact that roads are paved by tax dollars? Should he only walk on grass?As for his friend- he FREELY chose to give 50,000 dollars. It isn't Ron Paul's fault that healthcare is so expensive. Rather than discovering WHY healthcare is so expensive, and discovering how to reduce costs, proteanview's solution is, FREE HEALTHCARE FOR EVERYONE.
Has he not seen what's going on in Europe? And they don't have the military industrial complex
marcdaddy33 5 months ago
@marcdaddy33 I am not claiming ron paul is dishonest for certin however the fact that he is a politition meanes there is about a 99% chance he is. Honest polotititions have a very short run in office if they get in they either get impeached, curupted, or assasonated. I was being sarcastic about honest polotititions not existing at all, They do just in small numbers. As far as the cost of health cair being so expensive is simple to answer! It is because of demand.
jawj4291 5 months ago
@jawj4291
the answer is far more complicated than that. People will always need healthcare, but the government increases the costs for providers, thereby increasing prices.
marcdaddy33 5 months ago
@marcdaddy33 Everyone likes free donuts, until there aren't any free donuts anymore.
phi50 5 months ago
I love Dr. Ron Paul. I think he is one of the few honest people in government. However, even though I am a big supporter of his, I strongly disagree with his views on things like the 'profit motive' which I just heard him speak of recently. Oddly though there is some truth even in this strict polarity. For example it is true that health care cost go DOWN and not up when the market is allowed to add more competition. This scares the left into thinking he is for evil corporate medicine.
nekopheliac 5 months ago
@nekopheliac He is of course not for corporate medicine as he sees that as a response to government interference and choosing the winners and losers. Many on the left think that it is regulations which force the winners and losers to be chosen by the law. It is strictly not true and is perhaps the most damaging meme that liberals have trapped themselves in. Laws are good, proper rules are good, but when you take property rights you see that all the regulations are nothing but wind in comparison.
nekopheliac 5 months ago
Triple Thumbs up Combo!
I don't get why so many libertarians blindly follow an ideology like dogma. I don't care if you call it "Free Market", "Freedom", or "Liberty". There is NO "magic system" that somehow makes the universe perfect.
It's just people coming deciding what's best for themselves and thier community. THAT is "government"... Yes it can be corrupted, but it's not the boogeyman coming to get you.
Leave the ideology behind, gather information & statistics, and just "think".
oolong2 5 months ago
You don't understand the human freedom RP is speaking of -- humans wouldn't pay taxes simply because you cannot tax your right to earn an income. Corporations can be taxes though, and it is they who would pay.
mindprism 5 months ago
Brilliant!!
WISDOMX9 5 months ago
Paul has never even suggested such a thihg. Worse case scenareo your state could do that.
Smarterthanyouarable 5 months ago
One of your best videos ever!!
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totemdynamics 5 months ago
ad for al gore climate shit on this video x/
FreedomAtRisk 5 months ago
Maybe if healthcare costs weren't so bloated, that $50k would have been more helpful.
SexedUpAtheist 5 months ago
protean view why do u have a boner in hating this guys ron paul? hes the only chance we have in the bullshit mess we are in...do u realize how fucked our economy really is? its the equivalent of a house of cards....im not saying that paul will wave a wand and fix it...im saying that he can set this country up so within a decade we can be on the track to recovery rather than plunging into the worst depression. i like ur videos but here is were you ARE SO WRONG!!
humanequilibrium 5 months ago
@humanequilibrium Pro has made a number of pro Paul vids. Pro has come out in support of RP. He's just not someone who is afraid to say he doesn't support everything. That's the point I think. You don't have to be a all/nothing follower to support someone. AmazingAth made a vid about people who follow him like a god. You misunderstand his motives I think maybe because you are a hack
khemeticone 5 months ago
@khemeticone im not a hack, not really sure what that is....i haven't seen his pro paul videos and i personally like protein views stance on many things...i don't agree with him on this issue so that makes me a hack....dude what the hell does that even mean?
humanequilibrium 5 months ago
You also missed the spin Democrats are trying to put on this. The guy received treatment. IF you are arguing costs, then you have to understand that US healthcare costs are artificially raised to astronomical levels. Once you account for that, things are quite clear. Problem is.. emotionalists cannot dare to think beyond "Oh! So Horrible!". Well.. having "insurance" =/= "getting medical care", shouldn't be so either!
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter the hospital charged 400k. they only came up with 50k. LUCKILY the hospital didn't come for the rest. could've easily refused to treat. govt made prices too high? not in europe & it's more socialized. but suppose it was 200k or even 150k. STILL not enough. not about dems or repubs. not about emotions. it's about humanity. this hard working, tax paying man couldn't afford covg. his "friends & family & church" couldn't either, even if half price. u make excuses to be a hack
igotsissues 5 months ago 12
@igotsissues
This is what happens when you actively take measures to protect a trade from competition.. in this case the medical establishment, the pharma establishment, the workers unions, the insurance companies. Now, you can go fully socialized and sweep the costs under the magic rug of taxes (i.e. someone else's pocket.. NOT YOUR OWN), like EU countries have done for years. Sure, and they also deny procedures, because no procedure means no cost.
utubehayter 5 months ago
Nice Job, Proteanview.
dtm52 5 months ago
Ron Paul is already saying he wants to do what you ask him to do! Atleast about roads and water.. don't know where you pin the foreign aid and "liberate foreigners" idea from. Maybe you were being sarcastic?
utubehayter 5 months ago
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I agree, but in a way people pay as they go along on the road through gas tax. I think currently, 75% of gax tax funds roads projects and the rest goes to random stuff. The more you drive the more you pay.
mastapho 5 months ago
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mastapho 5 months ago
As you aptly point out sometimes you have to sacrifice 'fairness' for convenience and practicality. Libertarians enjoy deluded themselves (and trying to convince us) that their unpractised theology is as convenient and practical as it is 'fair'.
smpunditz 5 months ago 9
@smpunditz (love your videos, have watched many of them) I think the Randroid theories are quite pragmatically sound. Though, I must proffer that they do not take into account the immaterial concerns such as the need for structure and consistency without having to implant a futuristic device in your lungs to measure how much of their precious air you are breathing in order to toll you appropriately (better smoke to lower your VO2 max in a libertarian paradise :) )
ManjixIchigo 5 months ago
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@smpunditz (love your videos, have watched many of them) I think the Randroid theories are quite pragmatically sound. Though, I must proffer that they do not take into account the immaterial concerns such as the need for structure and consistency without having to implant a futuristic device in your lungs to measure how much of their precious air you are breathing in order to toll you appropriately (better smoke to lower your VO2 max in a libertarian paradise :) )
ManjixIchigo 5 months ago
Worst vid you ever made bro... describe the ideas properly if your going to criticize them.
jjcale1111 5 months ago
retarded analogy
DariusDaGreat86 5 months ago
Paved streets is not as costly or complex as healthcare,
DiNatalli 5 months ago
You do realize that a mileage tax has been and is currently being talked about, correct? No offence, because truly I really enjoy your videos and respect you as a free thinker, but if Limbaugh's "being ridiculous to demonstrate ridiculousness" doesn't really work why should it work any better for you???
nicodemous52 5 months ago
Ron Paul has a lot of faults, but I still think he's the only candidate that has a shot that will actually change the U.S. for the better. You think Rick Perry or Obama are going to push through universal healthcare? Not a chance.
DefenceSpeech 5 months ago
i think i remember going through that "super heat chucking technology" It's a little difficult but no more difficult than considering where does the energy go. In most cases it goes upward or into the sky. It's because we are force to use bad power tech and it kick off most of the calories as heat energy. There is a way to do better (not just a little better) You can save so much that it would make fuel growing feasible. That's why and how we are controled by use of power or energy.
hypnofan35 5 months ago
'Society' doesn't exist you know.
'Society' is just the excuse for the Taxation that is stolen from you in the name of building those very trinkets you mention - the ones you would deny anyone not in your little particular 'society'.
I understand your 'ownership', but that is your problem and not someone elses.
The fact is, that just like some Apaches, you lay ownership to something that you would deny to anyone else for lack of tribute.
I dont see universal 'society' in any of that
ccharlie100 5 months ago
Your analogy only works when the visitor to your town isn't a foreigner. Talk about hypocrisy. Why should we pay for French streets when we don't use them? Wouldn't it make more sense to pay as we use?
rofyle 5 months ago
@proteanview
Give me a moment to speak my thoughts.
I can't tell if you hate or like RP, but even if you do, check this out:
In the coming 2-3 years (if not sooner) America will be brutally raped by the inevitable hyper inflation, which leads to more war. And guess what? Iran!!!
Iran is a big trade partner of Russia and China, and if I'm not wrong, the Chinese leader himself said - "War with Iran is war with China."
WORLD WAR to be specific. Or even worse: Nuclear war = end of life on earth.
vikingWindmill 5 months ago
A shoutout to Mises from someone who both isn't a libertarian and didn't use it to rail on Mises.
This is a first.
Mastikator 5 months ago
protean bro you usually have good points about Jews and Israel but you're way off base with Libertarianism. i know you really believe what you're saying and you have the right to that opinion ... but you're wrong. i really don't want to waste my channel on videos to explain such banalities as this - if you just make the effort to understand Libertarianism i think you should be able to do it without my help.
g1981c 5 months ago
This is the kind of speech Obama should give, but he never will because he just doesn't get it.
tuttut57 5 months ago
"sweet spot" as described here? that's called europe.
Meskiagkasher 5 months ago
@Meskiagkasher LOL... You live in Europe???
jjcale1111 5 months ago
How come you are not a Youtube partner?
Waranle 5 months ago
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@Waranle I think he is, or at least was.
wikkidie 5 months ago
If you drive on government roads, you endorse the system of roads.
If you eat the meals which are served to you in a prison, you endorse your imprisonment.
It's that simple.
Worldslargestipod 5 months ago
you are a genius i hope people pay attention to your points beautiful mind!
TEEWEE01 5 months ago
great vid..
crankycactus 5 months ago