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hi all . this is all bullshit listen oke if you wanna win in the rulet you dont need the strategy just follow the colors then guess the which color gotta come then guess the corner oke for example it will come black oke then for example 24 oke then play the neibers but importand how you will play prees to number 50 -50 and press all 26 number ten ten oke plus 360 if you come the 10 you will get 360 but if you come the pressed 50 you will get 1800 oke .. the best strategy this ..
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ok if you say there is two ways to roll a 9 with 5 and 4 or 4 and 5....then.....according to this "MAth" There are two ways to roll a 2, each dice switch around. same with 12. If your going to reverse the dice for all the other numbers then you can do it for craps 2 and 12
It doesn't work that way. Imagine the dice are rolling and one lands on any number other than a one, then there is NO possibility to roll a total of two. On the other hand if you want a five, if the first die lands on a one, a two, a three, or a four, you still can make a five when the second die lands. Hope that helps to see how the "math" works out that there really are four ways to make a five or nine.
Jim, Just out of curiosity.... below you replied to Hwy418... I don't even know what his remark was but you said " the true odds are 36-1...". Were you talking about rolling a 2 or 12? If so then the chances of rolling either would be 1 in 36 and the odds would be 35 to 1. Or am I missing something? Not trying to be sarcastic... you obviously know your stuff.
@BobSTK Your numbers are correct Bob. My reply was not really about odds, rather about a rude personal rant that was deleted. (Not by me, I only delete spam). BTW, knowledge of true odds, house advantage, etc is not usually something dealers are taught, and it's not necessary for doing the job. Dealers only need to know how to pay the correct amount and many Vegas dealers are also players after work (not at the casino where they work).
@Hwy418 I don't sell or advocate systems. If you check you'll see I said what the true odds are (36-1) and IF they paid 30 to 1 or 35 to 1 you could calculate the casinos advantage.
If you're a dealer you're aware that in the short term dice DON'T follow the mathematics. The "millions" of rolls comment illustrates that the math sooner or later ALWAYS works out, so be careful of advertised "systems".
My skin? at 68. I scuba dive, Slalom water ski, travel. Lighten up, you'll enjoy life more.
@jimsmoments My apologies to you sir, that was NOT my comment it was my boneheaded brother surfing on my account. I have removed the rude comment and 'counseled' my brother about respect for elders. I did watch the video though & was intrigued. I teach advanced mathematics & the true statistical probabilities combined with the dynamics of the game truly make it fascinating. Thank you sir for your time & again, for what it's worth, my sincerest apologies to you.
1 way to roll a 2 2 ways to roll a 3 3 ways to roll a 4 4 ways to roll a 5 5 ways to roll a 6 6 ways to roll a 7 5 ways to roll an 8 4 ways to roll a 9 3 ways to roll a 10 2 ways to roll an 11 1 way to roll a 12 tadaaaa!
@MESSER8989 I haven't made a "PLAY" video yet but here's a brief idea. Two types of bets "Pass Line" and "Come Bets" (along with the matching "Don't" bets) allow you to make an additional bet usually called "Taking the odds". For example if you bet $10 on the pass line and the dice roll nine, you can make an additional bet, an "Odds" bet that you will make the 9 before a 7 rolls. There is NO marked place on the table for this bet. The odds bet pays the true math odds with no house advantage...
@MESSER8989 (Read below 1st) ...In the video the true mathematical odds of making a nine before a seven are "3 to 2" (Six ways to make a seven, 4 ways to make a nine) So on a $10 odds bet, if you make the nine, you'll be paid $15 - NO house advantage. Generally the bets advertised by the stickman (Craps/Eleven, Hardways, etc) and the big areas of the table (Field, Big 6/8) are the worst bets, giving the house 5%, 10% or more advantage. The BEST bet, the odds, has no visible box on the table :-)
@jimsmoments Oh I get it thank you. I was looking all over the table searching for which possible bet it can be. In a casino, is that placed by myself or the dealer?
@MESSER8989 If it's a "Come" bet you give it to the dealer and ask for the odds. On "Passline" bets you place it behind. I added a picture on one of my websites. Youtube won't let me post the link so it's in the middle of the page vegas4me . com / las_vegas_downtown.htm so you can see it. You'll need to take out the spaces. I need to update this Vegas site someday, for now this should work for you.
@MESSER8989 Read below first- Be sure to ask the dealer to help. Ex: a $5 pass line bet, and point becomes 9, you should bet $6 odds, because true odds are 3 to 2. If you bet $5 odds its a bad bet. The odd dollar can only be paid even money. Most dealers are not permitted to tell you if you're taking the right odds unless you ask. They want to help, cause if they do, you've a better chance of winning and they've a better chance of a tip. Casino doesn't want them giving advice UNLESS you ask.
PartyGamersPLC. In England (where English came from) math is spelled with the "e" . Regardless, there's a great lesson there. Each person has areas in which they excel, & we often loose opportunities as we "Write off" people who don't live up to our standards. Mostly we're not even aware we use standards (can't make a judgment/decision without them), where we got them or even their validity. Even if all the words were spelled wrong, would it matter if the math is right? BTW I speak 3 languages.
Regarding the "Setting the dice" strategy. This is somewhat of an urban legend, but based on facts. In early dice games and street dice games there were people who became skilled in setting dice and throwing them with such precision that they actually could make the odds move to their favor.
HOWEVER - The modern dice table and play took away that problem. If you play in Vegas & the dice do NOT bounce off the wall you'll get a warning. The "bumps" on the walls make sure the throw is random.
these videos suck, dice do what the dice want to do your either lucky or your a chump,and why the h** does the dice 7 out everytime someone throws the money down on the table, jump off the table, or hit the dice, oh yeh if this was true then we'd all be rich, anyways your either a playa or a chump
Why 96 rolls? You can "make up" all kinds of statistics, BUT - Every roll of the dice gives the same 36 possibilities. There are 36 possible ways the dice can land. That's reality, that's what determines the "odds" of what will happen on EVERY roll.
Hey dontswin... Jim know's what he's talking about. You should listen and learn from him.
If anyone have any knowledge about this game and it's probabilities, they'll laugh at you and your comments about the 96 rolls giving you odds of 18 to 13! lol
True odds are 2 to 1 on point 4 & 10. 3 to 2 on point 5 & 9 and 6 to 5 on point 6 & 8. It's different from shaved odds on Place Bets. Plus there's Lays and Buys. It'll just confuse you.
Everyone needs to see Zeke Feinbergs book Pre-setting dice esp. page 24.
Six basic sets result in 16 frequencys each..therefore there are 96 results(when taken in total) of which only one counts when they land. you won't figure it out til you study the chart, I can't really explain it unless you could see the chart.
Taken as a single entity yes u have 2 to 1 on 4 or 10 but in 96 frequencys its 18 to 8. 5 or 9 is 18 to 10, 6 or 8 18 to 13!
dontswin - I don't know who's Zeke Feinberg and I've never read his book. But if it's a book about "Dice Sets" - then I won't even bother trying to argue with you if you actually believe in this theory.
Casino's have calculated precisely the house edge for every single game in favour to the house. You cannot beat the System. The house never loses.
How I know this? Cos it's my bread and butter. I've been a Casino Dealer for 7 years and I've heard of every single system. It never works.
Turn dice lately have ya? If you know what that means then I'll believe you about working in the casino.
No one ever said dice setting works 100% of the time..so then tell me now how it never works at all! For some it does work but obviously not 100%. For someone like yourself to use the word 'never' tells me your full of it! The house does lose sometimes but not for long..be gone good buddy you bring nothing useful to the table!!
dontswin - Yeah good luck buddy... Hope you win your fortunes at the tables lol... Make sure you study hard on Zeke Feinberg's books.
Come to Star City Sydney. Try all your systems to beat the house from Blackjack, Baccarat, Roulette, Pai Gow, Poker to Craps... I'll be more than happy to take your money.
What are you going on about man? What 96 Rolls? What 18 - 13? There's 6 sides to every die. Out of 2 dice there is 36 different combinations to roll the numbers between 2-12.
The most common number rolled is a 7 with 6 different combinations. Next most common numbers rolled is 6 & 8 with 5 different combinations.
Therefore there's 6 chances to lose with only 5 chances to win giving you odds payable of 6 to 5. These odds never change no matter u roll the dice 6 times 96 times or 196 times.
@TRUCKSTAR74 If that were true you wouldn't be allowed to play and if you were they'd be burning craps tables around the world. Trust me I deal this game and there are rules & procedures in place that prevent this, and if the pit boss is doing his job you'll never get it on.
Take $5, say all the hardways heavy on the 10.Then when they hit, parlay the bet. If they hit again you'll win either $80 $100 or $128. 5 dollar risk,what the hell right? If you are successful at this technique,you will have a good chance at becoming a degenerate gambler and drug addict.
Just got back from Reno last night from a weekend stay..learned the basics of the game over the last two days.. my girl friend and I had so much fun!! we actually paid for our trip... looking forward to playing more.. this video is really helpful! thanks!
I always laugh when someone is playing a big bet on the pass line with hardly any or no odds. C'mon people! Odds are the best bet on the table -- no juice for the house at all.
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MrHalloffamepicks 2 weeks ago
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Grannie6847 9 months ago
hi all . this is all bullshit listen oke if you wanna win in the rulet you dont need the strategy just follow the colors then guess the which color gotta come then guess the corner oke for example it will come black oke then for example 24 oke then play the neibers but importand how you will play prees to number 50 -50 and press all 26 number ten ten oke plus 360 if you come the 10 you will get 360 but if you come the pressed 50 you will get 1800 oke .. the best strategy this ..
MultiBeyzade 9 months ago
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ok if you say there is two ways to roll a 9 with 5 and 4 or 4 and 5....then.....according to this "MAth" There are two ways to roll a 2, each dice switch around. same with 12. If your going to reverse the dice for all the other numbers then you can do it for craps 2 and 12
plymouthpatriot 1 year ago
It doesn't work that way. Imagine the dice are rolling and one lands on any number other than a one, then there is NO possibility to roll a total of two. On the other hand if you want a five, if the first die lands on a one, a two, a three, or a four, you still can make a five when the second die lands. Hope that helps to see how the "math" works out that there really are four ways to make a five or nine.
jimsmoments 1 year ago
listen to the words of a grand master.
Rico8458 1 year ago
Jim, Just out of curiosity.... below you replied to Hwy418... I don't even know what his remark was but you said " the true odds are 36-1...". Were you talking about rolling a 2 or 12? If so then the chances of rolling either would be 1 in 36 and the odds would be 35 to 1. Or am I missing something? Not trying to be sarcastic... you obviously know your stuff.
BobSTK 1 year ago
@BobSTK Your numbers are correct Bob. My reply was not really about odds, rather about a rude personal rant that was deleted. (Not by me, I only delete spam). BTW, knowledge of true odds, house advantage, etc is not usually something dealers are taught, and it's not necessary for doing the job. Dealers only need to know how to pay the correct amount and many Vegas dealers are also players after work (not at the casino where they work).
jimsmoments 1 year ago
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Hwy418 1 year ago
@Hwy418 I don't sell or advocate systems. If you check you'll see I said what the true odds are (36-1) and IF they paid 30 to 1 or 35 to 1 you could calculate the casinos advantage.
If you're a dealer you're aware that in the short term dice DON'T follow the mathematics. The "millions" of rolls comment illustrates that the math sooner or later ALWAYS works out, so be careful of advertised "systems".
My skin? at 68. I scuba dive, Slalom water ski, travel. Lighten up, you'll enjoy life more.
jimsmoments 1 year ago
@jimsmoments My apologies to you sir, that was NOT my comment it was my boneheaded brother surfing on my account. I have removed the rude comment and 'counseled' my brother about respect for elders. I did watch the video though & was intrigued. I teach advanced mathematics & the true statistical probabilities combined with the dynamics of the game truly make it fascinating. Thank you sir for your time & again, for what it's worth, my sincerest apologies to you.
Hwy418 1 year ago
Syntarro 1 year ago
What are odds bet? I'm confused
MESSER8989 1 year ago
@MESSER8989 I haven't made a "PLAY" video yet but here's a brief idea. Two types of bets "Pass Line" and "Come Bets" (along with the matching "Don't" bets) allow you to make an additional bet usually called "Taking the odds". For example if you bet $10 on the pass line and the dice roll nine, you can make an additional bet, an "Odds" bet that you will make the 9 before a 7 rolls. There is NO marked place on the table for this bet. The odds bet pays the true math odds with no house advantage...
jimsmoments 1 year ago
@MESSER8989 (Read below 1st) ...In the video the true mathematical odds of making a nine before a seven are "3 to 2" (Six ways to make a seven, 4 ways to make a nine) So on a $10 odds bet, if you make the nine, you'll be paid $15 - NO house advantage. Generally the bets advertised by the stickman (Craps/Eleven, Hardways, etc) and the big areas of the table (Field, Big 6/8) are the worst bets, giving the house 5%, 10% or more advantage. The BEST bet, the odds, has no visible box on the table :-)
jimsmoments 1 year ago
@jimsmoments Oh I get it thank you. I was looking all over the table searching for which possible bet it can be. In a casino, is that placed by myself or the dealer?
MESSER8989 1 year ago
@MESSER8989 If it's a "Come" bet you give it to the dealer and ask for the odds. On "Passline" bets you place it behind. I added a picture on one of my websites. Youtube won't let me post the link so it's in the middle of the page vegas4me . com / las_vegas_downtown.htm so you can see it. You'll need to take out the spaces. I need to update this Vegas site someday, for now this should work for you.
jimsmoments 1 year ago
@MESSER8989 Read below first- Be sure to ask the dealer to help. Ex: a $5 pass line bet, and point becomes 9, you should bet $6 odds, because true odds are 3 to 2. If you bet $5 odds its a bad bet. The odd dollar can only be paid even money. Most dealers are not permitted to tell you if you're taking the right odds unless you ask. They want to help, cause if they do, you've a better chance of winning and they've a better chance of a tip. Casino doesn't want them giving advice UNLESS you ask.
jimsmoments 1 year ago
Thanks for the lesson - Great information!!
basicsforsuccess 1 year ago
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NicktheGreek2121 1 year ago
damn this is REALLY good shit!! thanks for this!!! i'm subscribing!
PokrPro21 1 year ago
PartyGamersPLC. In England (where English came from) math is spelled with the "e" . Regardless, there's a great lesson there. Each person has areas in which they excel, & we often loose opportunities as we "Write off" people who don't live up to our standards. Mostly we're not even aware we use standards (can't make a judgment/decision without them), where we got them or even their validity. Even if all the words were spelled wrong, would it matter if the math is right? BTW I speak 3 languages.
jimsmoments 1 year ago
@jimsmoments
you spelled lose wrong!!
TRUCKSTAR74 1 year ago
@TRUCKSTAR74 Thanks but with so many comments here I can't find it. Let me know and I'll fix it
jimsmoments 1 year ago
Regarding the "Setting the dice" strategy. This is somewhat of an urban legend, but based on facts. In early dice games and street dice games there were people who became skilled in setting dice and throwing them with such precision that they actually could make the odds move to their favor.
HOWEVER - The modern dice table and play took away that problem. If you play in Vegas & the dice do NOT bounce off the wall you'll get a warning. The "bumps" on the walls make sure the throw is random.
jimsmoments 1 year ago
these videos suck, dice do what the dice want to do your either lucky or your a chump,and why the h** does the dice 7 out everytime someone throws the money down on the table, jump off the table, or hit the dice, oh yeh if this was true then we'd all be rich, anyways your either a playa or a chump
GamblinDreams 1 year ago
You never responded to my comment hope your not sick or something? Thx
dontswin 2 years ago
Why 96 rolls? You can "make up" all kinds of statistics, BUT - Every roll of the dice gives the same 36 possibilities. There are 36 possible ways the dice can land. That's reality, that's what determines the "odds" of what will happen on EVERY roll.
jimsmoments 2 years ago
Hey dontswin... Jim know's what he's talking about. You should listen and learn from him.
If anyone have any knowledge about this game and it's probabilities, they'll laugh at you and your comments about the 96 rolls giving you odds of 18 to 13! lol
True odds are 2 to 1 on point 4 & 10. 3 to 2 on point 5 & 9 and 6 to 5 on point 6 & 8. It's different from shaved odds on Place Bets. Plus there's Lays and Buys. It'll just confuse you.
Comment on something you have knowledge about.
La1930CosaNostra 2 years ago
Everyone needs to see Zeke Feinbergs book Pre-setting dice esp. page 24.
Six basic sets result in 16 frequencys each..therefore there are 96 results(when taken in total) of which only one counts when they land. you won't figure it out til you study the chart, I can't really explain it unless you could see the chart.
Taken as a single entity yes u have 2 to 1 on 4 or 10 but in 96 frequencys its 18 to 8. 5 or 9 is 18 to 10, 6 or 8 18 to 13!
dontswin 2 years ago
dontswin - I don't know who's Zeke Feinberg and I've never read his book. But if it's a book about "Dice Sets" - then I won't even bother trying to argue with you if you actually believe in this theory.
Casino's have calculated precisely the house edge for every single game in favour to the house. You cannot beat the System. The house never loses.
How I know this? Cos it's my bread and butter. I've been a Casino Dealer for 7 years and I've heard of every single system. It never works.
La1930CosaNostra 2 years ago
Turn dice lately have ya? If you know what that means then I'll believe you about working in the casino.
No one ever said dice setting works 100% of the time..so then tell me now how it never works at all! For some it does work but obviously not 100%. For someone like yourself to use the word 'never' tells me your full of it! The house does lose sometimes but not for long..be gone good buddy you bring nothing useful to the table!!
dontswin 2 years ago
dontswin - Yeah good luck buddy... Hope you win your fortunes at the tables lol... Make sure you study hard on Zeke Feinberg's books.
Come to Star City Sydney. Try all your systems to beat the house from Blackjack, Baccarat, Roulette, Pai Gow, Poker to Craps... I'll be more than happy to take your money.
La1930CosaNostra 2 years ago
Not even this guy is gonna tell you the REAL ODDS on dice rolls. 18 sevens and 13 -6's and 13-8's in 96 rolls..in reality its not 6 to 5 but 18 to 13.
No one on the planet will explain it to you except Zeke Feinberg!!
dontswin 2 years ago
What are you going on about man? What 96 Rolls? What 18 - 13? There's 6 sides to every die. Out of 2 dice there is 36 different combinations to roll the numbers between 2-12.
The most common number rolled is a 7 with 6 different combinations. Next most common numbers rolled is 6 & 8 with 5 different combinations.
Therefore there's 6 chances to lose with only 5 chances to win giving you odds payable of 6 to 5. These odds never change no matter u roll the dice 6 times 96 times or 196 times.
La1930CosaNostra 2 years ago
dice control is bullshit
underworldremake 2 years ago
Dice Control ? bs or real ?
writewild 2 years ago
@writewild
I think dice control is real and can play a big role in the outcome!!
TRUCKSTAR74 1 year ago
@TRUCKSTAR74 If that were true you wouldn't be allowed to play and if you were they'd be burning craps tables around the world. Trust me I deal this game and there are rules & procedures in place that prevent this, and if the pit boss is doing his job you'll never get it on.
Hwy418 1 year ago
Nice, Thank you for posting Sir!
MicrotekMybisi 2 years ago 2
im sorry, but not spelling mathematics right just loses all respect for this video.
PartyGamingPlc 3 years ago
You're ignorant
rossc2 3 years ago
lol.
EthernetKid 2 years ago
Take $5, say all the hardways heavy on the 10.Then when they hit, parlay the bet. If they hit again you'll win either $80 $100 or $128. 5 dollar risk,what the hell right? If you are successful at this technique,you will have a good chance at becoming a degenerate gambler and drug addict.
motorcitystevo 3 years ago 9
Just got back from Reno last night from a weekend stay..learned the basics of the game over the last two days.. my girl friend and I had so much fun!! we actually paid for our trip... looking forward to playing more.. this video is really helpful! thanks!
jayvee408 3 years ago
I always laugh when someone is playing a big bet on the pass line with hardly any or no odds. C'mon people! Odds are the best bet on the table -- no juice for the house at all.
keeneypr 3 years ago 3
@keeneypr Thats bullshit..ok so instead of FLUSHING the pass line down the toilet your gonna FLUSH the ODDS also down the toilet! HAHAHA
Right bettors are losers!!
dontswin 2 years ago