Ford Focus RS | Renault Mégane R26.R @ Silverstone [Drivers Republic]

[MrSmithyboy1990]

Would love to chuck the R26R around some B-Roads , pure heaven :)

[dominoc5]

next time compare a truck vs lotus ^^

[paulturton27]

i really dont get why they put these cars against each other because its not exactly a fair test, what i mean by that is yes the focus gas more power but the megan has less weight so why not do the test on the same tyres, everyone knows that decent rubber can account for a few seconds a lap. my suggestion is they run a 'fair' test ie, same day, same driver and same tyres then it'll be closer

[DEnishiZ]

Focus is a straight line car in a long straight track due to its pure power (and it HAS power!). Megane has better overall performance and better accel than Focus due to it's low weight and extras. After all, I think no matter how many improvements Ford puts on it's Focus... Megane is, has been and will be it's headache.

[fleaby]

Learn to drive, too early, clumping the corners then blaming it on oversteer. If you can drive you do not need to bump the hazard bumps etc. This idiot does it all the time. Love to see him in a Sunbeam Lotus, he would cry to mummy. Heavy engine????? Too much power and steering not the alloy based engine.

[dilawer321]

@fleaby have you ever been to silverstone?

[danglingslong]

@fleaby quiet child.

[Makeshoot]

plastic vs glass no radio Get a clue in rs focus i can drive 4 people with radio NP .

and he need to learn to drive focus rs..

[Makeshoot]

plastic vs glass no radio Get a clue in rs focus i can drive 4 people with radio NP ...

[dilawer321]

This will be the LAST great RS ford! as i hear the next forcus rs will be made also for the american market, and we all know what happens to cars designed for the american market!! Goodbye RS, you gave us a lot of fun for the past 30+ years

[power7154]

el Focus es wow pero el RENAULT es lo mejor viva el rey.  VW no sirve para nada

[chiludofc]

BUENO PUES UNA VEZ MAS QUEDA DEMOSTRADO QUIEN ES EL REY

R26 R

[mazallus69]

vive le renault sport

[presland1990]

i just hate fords

[miike12345]

People who have 25k to spend on a car that they want to use everyday will buy the RS, people who have 25k to spend on a car they just want for going quickly around a track will buy...an Ariel Atom.

[horilazar]

@miike12345 true, true !!! or a Caterham or an Elise :D

[Cybergig00]

@miike12345 well said!

[crcairo1970]

Both brands wanted to make te quickest front wheel drive car. Ford gave the RS 306 hp and Renault took another approach and stripped the car. Renault won this battle and then you have people who don't like to see the Ford being defeated hands down. Accept this....but I also think the Ford has the better looks.

[Chunkychucky]

Well driven. Who is this guy??

[ioan182]

Agreed with most people here about saying the R26R is a track car and the RS is a day to day car. This is why Renault have the R26 F1, not as light but there is plenty of seconds to spare between the two. On the open road being windy country and mountain roads of Wales for me, I have driven both cars and the grip from the Renault is amazing/astonishing. The RS was not bad considering it has all that power through the front. Anyway the difference was that much better I decided to buy the R26.

[supersevenn]

unfair comparison. Renault built a track day toy and the RS is a real street car. Let me build the RS into a track car and the renault could only smell my tailpipes. 3 seconds? blame the toyos for those 3 seconds, i race with toyos RA1

[678jasper678]

Power to Weight Ratio is every

Add passengers and other additional weight the Megane R26R and new Megane 250-RS would crumble due to additional weight

HOT HATCH = day to day car + high performance

Megane R26R is not a day to day car. Both the Megane R26R and 250-RS can only deliver high performance if they do not have any additional weight

If you were to start adding passengers, luggage etc you would see the performance of both Meganes drop dramatically incomparison to the Focus RS

[rssportt]

Há grande MEGANE RS!!!!!!!

[PrimeraDriverp12]

für einen megane sind 300PS einfach zu wenig !! Wenn mann ein gutes auto baut braucht mann nicht über 300 PS um schnell zu sein da genügen auch 230PS kann man nur sagen RENAULT SPORT RULEZZ

[bathellfire]

Renault will only go on the track

Ford is a hatch, that you can drive on the road, with 3 other friends... Not to mention it looks a LOT better :)

I'd choose the Ford, but they don't sell them in Canada.

[Brementuning007]

in canada sell the renault?

[DILINGER0]

Maybe you must see the new Megane RS with 250 HP.... and the next version with 275 HP more radical. New Megane RS with Cup Chasis, cost less than 30.000 € in Europe. Maybe, it can be slower than Ford, but is more handle, precise, and effective driving experience. Better quality in the interior, and tons of sexy style outside. Not only power is needed for enjoy.

[iceboys]

RENAULT farkı 1.6 sı bile yetiyo yol tutuş fren performansı o kadar beygir farkı var ama megane fark atıyo

[BarneyWobba]

lol 2.19s vs 2.22s

I noticed he was hitting the limiter frequently in the Meggy as well...easy to do I noticed when I tried one at Brands.

Tough call between the two, but I'd probably add the Megane to my looney car collection...

[scott666sex]

Fixed Or Repaired Daily. The Renault is a serious drivers car, the focus is meerly a powerful sqaure collectors edition for all the Ford nuts to worship.

[mungsteude]

renault is better than ford ford is really shit the megane rs is faster than a audi rs6 buy the renault

new megane rs 2009 250hp + chip 350hp

[678jasper678]

The new Megane RS is not only going to be less powerful but is also going to be heavier than the Focus RS

Focus RS already has an upgrade to 340bhp and they are working on 370+bhp

Suppose the Focus RS had less bhp to the Megane RS it would be just as the above video all to do with power to weight ratio thus the Focus RS would still own the Megane RS

FACT chassis / handling in their classes Ford is superior:

KA owns the twingo

Fiesta owns the clio

Focus owns the megane

[scoot24925]

@678jasper678 u r talking totally bullshits..renaults are way better tha fords..and this is a FACT...

[scoot24925]

@678jasper678 is not spelled Renualt but Renault...u had say that all the ford cars are better than renault...for example..clio is better than fiesta..and twingo better than ka..the focus is better than megane but for the sport versions no! did u ever drive the megane rs 250 ? is a totaly amazing car..and in the most circuits

[scoot24925]

@678jasper678 u ever drive the megane rs 250 ? is a totaly amazing car..and in the most circuits has beat the frs...the frs has beat the megane in only 2 circuits with only 0,50 sec advantage...and has 50 hp plus...the megane rs 250 is much cheaper and much beatiful...put and 50 hp jn the megane and its gonna rape the shit out a Frs!!!

[scoot24925]

@678jasper678 haha u entered in your own trap..GROW UP !!! u removed your previous comment who says all the ford gama was better than the renault..finaly u acepted u r wrong and some renaults are better....howewer i am waiting for top gear verdict about the megane rs250 and focus rs500

[doctor42o]

@scoot24925 no shit.....corse its a fact...noone can tell u otherwise!

[sweatyknackers85]

French cars are shite who ever has bought a french car needs ther head testing it should be called the r26Shite its fukin ugly and made of plastic, as if any one would buy this car over any other hothatchback its the uglyest one ever

[TheVtieg6]

You cant really compare these two since one is a proper hot hatch and the other is a track converted car.

[drewand88]

To be honest though if your going to buy the R26R over the focus you must have shit in your eyes.

[rok18]

Face it. It beats a lot more powerfull Focus... And not to mention Focus oversters massively

[678jasper678]

Face it. R26R = track car. Focus RS = hot-hatch

Face it. Focus RS will beat the new Megane RS hot-hatch when it finally arives.

Face it. If Ford were to strip down the Focus RS add a roll cage, plastic windows and slicks thus becoming a track car it would own the R26R by more than double the time the R26R achieved.

Face it. Ford RS specialists are squeezing an extra 40bhp from the 2.5-litre five-cylinder turbocharged engine, taking the tally to an incredible 340bhp.

oh dear.. Megane!

[rok18]

Still it hasnt got one thing you just mentioned, and still megane R.26R is faster... :)

When Ford will build such a car then you will be able to say how fast it is in comperison to R.26R, till then save youre self the trouble...

[678jasper678]

considering the Cosworth is better than the Focus they already have!

notice how I call it "R26R" and you call it "Megane R26R"

R26R could have any body/shell put over it, if can be any car, it could have had a Clio body put over it!

Megane is a hatch-back that is comfortable, rear seats, cd-player etc

Hot-hatch is the top spec hatch-back with a powerfuler engine and mods to the chassis/handling

[rok18]

Call it what you wanna call it, its faster and thats all there is to it...

[678jasper678]

obviously power to weight ratio !

e.g. your typical 1.2 small light car is on par with hatchbacks such as a Megane 1.5, Astra 1.6

you mean understeers, as it goes wide in the top gears footage.

To be honest I prefer cars with better power to weight ratio to others and if the car has to have a handling flaw that it oversteers.

Theres nothing better than a car wish appears to be weak and perhaps is under-rated and misleading pissing on people in their expensive flash cars!

[678jasper678]

you mean it understeersas it goes wide!

to be honest if the car of my choice had to have a handling issue, id rather it oversteers!

[rok18]

Wright...since youre a driving expert and oversteer is next to nothing to you to handle... hehe... i dont think so.

And after all... a good sports car is nearly perfectly balanced, which Ford isnt even nearly

[VAspeed3]

Face it. Comparing apples to oranges is silly. It just boils down to whether you prefer apples or oranges.

[blitzwing1]

For me a hot hatch is not some stripped out car which is what the r26r is, I hoenstly can't think of 1 hot hatch that has ever been this way. The focus on the other hand can still be used for your everyday tasks and also comes with all the comforts etc that you expect from a modern car, and then if inclined you blast it home when you want:). If I want a pure track day car there are better and cheaper road legal options than either of these. For a everday fun car my money would go with the RS.

[VAspeed3]

I think the Renault would be a fun track car, but crowing about outrunning a comfortable 5 seater with a plastic- windowed 2 seater seems like boasting that you beat somebody's M5 with your Corvette. Not all that impressive.

[theocho3]

1.- Megane r26r the fastest front-wheel car ever at Nurburing (8:17..). Here 3 full seconds faster than RS.

2.- You RS people really see yourselves getting at work or at some nice place for dinner in an apple green, super sporty, the fast and the furious type of car?? No, right?? That's because this Focus is primarly made for fun=TRACK, and for that matter the Megane is MUCH better.

Ps: if you're not going to race it might as well get a regular Focus ST with radio and air...

[launchini100]

R26R gets the 8:17 time on semi slicks tyres, the same happens on this track and that is moraly wrong!

The focus RS is quick , pretty and full equiped, best valeu for money.

The R26R just can be used as a second car becouse its a plastic bag LOL . Many people would prefer a lotus before an R26R for example.

Overall , focus RS better than megane R26R.

[theocho3]

A lotus?? come on man now you're just being funny... for that kind of money (50000 to 56000 euros) for a good lotus you're better of with an R26R maddly tuned and it'd still be cheaper.

And i'm not saying the Focus RS is a bad car, i like it but i wouldn't buy it because i think those cars are for having fun, they aren't classy and sofisticated they're mad hatchbacks and for that matter you're better off in the R26R...

[678jasper678]

R26R = track car

R26R is not a hot-hatch nor what would be considered a standard road car.

Renault are due to release a Megane RS (hot-hatch) which is less powerful and of a similar weight. This car should be compared against the Focus RS!

R26R = trakc car and thus should be compared to a Lotus!

[theocho3]

I agree it's a track car but you can't compare it against a lotus because the cheapest Elise is 40,000 euros and R26R is 30,000.

On the other hand the megane 3 rs hasn't got a price tag yet but if it is anything under Focus RS's 33000 euros anyone would rather buy that. Even though the focus is at 4.8kg/hp and the megane is at 5.4 kg/hp...

The thing is Renault > Ford as far as sportscars.

[dugi0999]

Totaly agree with you riothero313! This two cars do not drive in the same league at all. Megane sport r26 is the right competitor but without slicks, roll cage and 150 kg more than r26r is obviously behind focus (and some test in magazines confirm that). I repeat, I don t prefer focus but the car is just wonderful. Last 2 years megane r26 was top notch but now ford has a great deal with this one...

[dugi0999]

Nobody comment on tires!!! Toyo r888 is semi slick tire! It would be proper test if these two cars would be equiped with equal tires. I was once testing the diference between road tires and semi slicks. The diference is huge, you feel like you are driving totaly diferent car. Response and quickness in turning are 1/3 better, r888 doesn t roll at all, you have very precise picture what s going on with car. In some corners speed was 10-20 km/h higher!

[riothero313]

Everything is increased just by a tire change. Lateral grip, traction out of the corner and braking power. I agree, putting semi-slicks on one and normal dry/wet weather tires on the other isn't that fair. The focus has more power AND less tire so that's not going to help traction. Not to mention how much the roll cage helps stiffen the chassis when the focus has a back seat.

[sdlausen]

This review makes absolutely no sense what so ever. How can you compare the R26R to the RS? The R26R is a stripped out race car. Strip out the Focus and Run again and you'll see who wins.

[jackish1234]

This is bullshit. Hot hatch vs Hot hatch my ass.

[ben10Topgear]

top gear!

[678jasper678]

1) Focus RS = hot hatch

2) coming soon - Megane RS = hot hatch

(which is less power and similar weight)

3) R26R = track car

4) If you were to strip down the Focus RS = track car,

1 vs 2

The Focus RS is more powerful and has a similar weight to the Megane RS - result obvious, Focus RS owns.

3 vs 4

A stripted Focus RS (track car) is more powerful and will have a similar weight to the R26R - result obvious, stript Focus RS owns.

[uneame]

Strange that in every vid showing the Focus against a Renault Sport, the Renault wins, whatever it is (MeganeRS or ClioRS). I wonder if a Twingo RS won't be able to beat a Focus in a windy road...

[oliaras]

La comparativa Focus RS vs Megane R26.R no tiene ningún sentido.

Hay un coche que es el Megane R26

Hay otro coche que es el Focus RS

Y luego está otro nivel que es el R26.R

Aquí, faltaria la version del Focus RS.R para que éstas comparativas fuesen válidas.

Todo esto seguirá así hasta que a los de Ford se les hinchen las pelotas de tanto oir que el Megane es mejor y hagan de una vez un Focus RS.R sólo para callar bocas ya que no les interesa un coche para una docena de ventas.

[caradebiste]

pero q crees tu q es ford ignorante, o es q tu crees q los ford son los unicos carros q caminan, por favor la renault es una marca muy competiitiva en automoviles y en todas las categorias incluyendo f1 asi q bajate d esa nube rolo d gafo y sigue creyendo q el pedazo d focus ese es un focus 430 rs scuderia jajajajaja

[BrilliantPSB]

@oliaras ...Ford heard you and brough the RS500 which literally destroys the R26R.

[caradebiste]

el megane es una edicion especial, ignorante no es un carro para diario, esperemos a ver la nueva generacion del megane sport y despues hablas pero por ahora hay q esperar, ah y otra cosa el r26r fue hecho para despedir la generacion anterior del megane no para competir directamente con el pedazo d focus como dices tu, ahora q todo mundo lo haya visto d esa manera, pero d todas maneras el focus tiene q respetar al r26r ah y si te quedan dudas ve el nuevo video d top gear r26r vs focus rs

[launchini100]

Sólo serán comparables cuando los dos monten semi slicks, tan sencillo como eso. Por cierto el R26R tiene ya más de un año haciendo tiempos, hay que esperar que el focus también esté mas rodado!

[KeysLer88]

no plazas de atras, no radio, no climatizador, no xenon, vs coche full equip,.. llegar 1,5 secs antes a tu trabajo.. no tiene precio ;)

[carlosalmena]

jajajajaj xD

[izaiaz1]

yo creo q todo lo q digamo unos como otros es pana cada uno q intente verlo con sus propios ojos de aqui a un año o asi abra por españa unos pocos de focus rs 2009 q se abran metido en alguna q otra tanda ,asi q yo esperare a verlo con mis propios ojos

[essecorse]

osea q el clio sport del video d autocar tambien tiene neumaticos d carreras, por q en ese video se aprecia q el clio en paso d curva busca d adelantarlo pero tu lo q estas es mojoniado cuando conduzcas un renault veras lo q es potencia y estabilidad ademas d q pones al focus como el menos aventajado recuerda q el focus tiene mejor relacion peso potencia q el megane, aun con la reduccion d peso en el caso del megane todavia sale en ventaja el focus para q lo sepas

[izaiaz1]

Mira yo no se como anda el nuevo focus Rs,lo q si q no me creo esq un puto de mierda Clio Rs Cup se le pege alculo.Sencillamente porq yo tengo un Focus ST170 I LO E PROBADO UNAS POCAS DE VECES CON UN CLIO RS CON CHASIS CUP EN BLNCO I ANDA MENOS Q MI COCHE, EN ACELERACION CASI IGUAAL PERO POR DETRAS Y EN PUNTA NO PASA DE 220 I ENPIEZO A SACARLE JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA. en circuito estoi deseando coger a uno a ver q pasa. a i ami tambien me da verguenza de ese tipo de gente

[essecorse]

pues nada mas ve este video aqui en youtube Renaultsport Clio 200 Cup v Ford Focus RS para q veas q no es invento esos focus no llevan vida son unos potes d mierda

[caradebiste]

el megane tiene 70 hp menos, un cilindro menos y 500cc menos ahhh y el clio sport nuevo es motor atmosferico y q verguenza como le hace sombra al pedazo d focus

[essecorse]

totalmente d acuerdo contigo aparte d q el megane es el mismo auto del 2004 pero aligerado d peso y ese focus es una base nueva y con un motor mejor evolucionado , ahora yo me hago esta pregunta y un r26r con 300hp q le pasara al focus, pero es q no hace falta tanto si es verdad, el clio sport se come al focus en curvas vi ese video d autocar y me pregunto todavia les queda ganas a la gente d ford estar peleando diciendo d neumaticos slick o q si la reduccion d peso

[xaser2ksk]

LOL ja das tut weh 229 ps schlagen 305 ^^ Ford die tun was jaja ^^

Oh this hurts when 229bhp beats 305bhp :)

[launchini100]

SEMI SLICKS!!!

[ABCDLFGHIJKL]

renault megane ist da best... ford hat keine chance... viva el megane

[ivanriosa]

yo creo que los slicks claro que se tienen que notar,pero tambien se tienen que notar los 75cv que tiene de mas el focus y no se ven por ningun sitio,hay otra comparativa como esta con un clio,con el chasis cup,y en las rectas se separa algo el focus,pero en las curvas literalmente se come el clio al focus

[launchini100]

También se notan los kilos de menos en el megane r26r, no hay que modificar los coches pero sí las llantas, el focus pesado pero más poder y el r26r menos potencia pero también menos peso! Debe tenerse en cuenta que ya se comprobó que el r26r pierde 0,5 seg/Km si no usa los Toyo, saque sus cuentas

[JELH]

300 bhp + FWD = FAIL. Haha! Take that Ford!

Megane R26.R FTW!

[caradebiste]

siempre el megane dando la nota como el mejor gti ni leon, ni focus rs ,ni golf ,ni civic ,megane siempre el mejor y sean buenos perdedores gente d ford d todas formas son 2 autos grandiosos

[launchini100]

Gran parte de la diferencia se debe indiscutiblemente a los SEMI SLICKS que monta el megane. Sin ellos la diferencia de los dos coches en el Ring es sólo de 1 SEGUNDO (por ahora) , o sea que un "ballenato" de casi 1500Kg le ruge muy de cerca al R26 Radicalizado para ser un coche desarrollado como dice Renault para romper cronos en circuitos! Lo mismo pasaría en este circuito de montar también el focus llantas de competición

[djmunic]

KK RENUALT RUN BUT THE RS IS A MUCH BETTER CAR: I mean look at the interior of the R26 compared to the RS! THE RS GIVES U MORE AND THE RS HAS A BETTER EXTERIOR THE RS LOST BY 3 SECS BUT I RECON THE RS WILL BEAT IT. I BET THEY GOT PAID TO MAKE THE R26 WIN

[nutzna]

ENGLISH, PLEASE!!! ENGLISH! :))))

[dieguosantiago87]

mi opinion es...k lo k kisieron hacer fue intentar k ala genteles kedara claro k mandaba el megane?¿?...para mi manera de ver manda el focus!!!!!....si le kita 3 segundos....pero....la dierencia de peso,de cubiertas pk bin se ve k no estan igual de cubiertas....las barras aumentan rijidez en el chasis....etc...otra k el focus se muestra mui trankilo a bajas revoluciones,no tira dede abajo....

[slinkysaddler]

over hyped focus RS

[ViruTypeR]

Hombre la principal diferencia es que el R26R está pensado para TrackDays y el Focus RS no... se ve claramente que el chasis del Megane es mucho más rígido, a parte de que unos semislicks siempre ayudan a bajar tiempos.

Pero si es verdad que, aunque desde dentro no lo aparenta, en la vista exterior el conductor parece algo brusco, como si frenara muy tarde y demasiado fuerte haciendo trazadas muy angulosas... no sé...

[rossobyrojas]

no hay como el megane

[saki6916]

Pero me extraña mucho como se mueve el focus al entrar en curvas cuando ford tiene unos chasis de lo mejorcito. Alli falla algo, ruedas peso o conductor

[jrdxx]

Seguramente seran los 200 kg de grasa q tiene de mas el focus comparado con el megane

[jumeiny]

Estoy en ello que la potencia no lo es todo y quedo claro en este video, pero tambien hay que decir que el que llevaba el coche no tenia muchas luces tampoco. jeje

[RenaultF1TeamRS]

hahahaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

[entreletrass]

Lo han comparad con la versión nrmal del R26 y te aseguro que para tener 70 caballos mas no logra una diferencia important, pro clar,la versión normal tiene un diseño de 2004 y no se vende ni se vendió cmo se vende el RS,q según la marca Yanki sería la rferencia absoluta entre los compactos y no lo es, si no entiendes algo así tienes un problema. Si esperaban ser la referencia con un modelo como el Rs que es un gran coche x otro lado, no lo han logrado, nada mas, que le pongan a dieta

[entreletrass]

Ya, pero los señores de Ford lo vendieron antes de salir como el mejor compacto del mundo, que sería la revolución y el mas rápido y un Megane basado en el diseño del megane rs del 2oo4 le moja la oreja una y otra vez y eso teniendo en cuenta el maravilloso tren delantero desarrollado por los señores de ford, pues bien, dos segundos por vuelta son un mundo, por cierto, en otras pruebas llevando el megane ruedas normales también le deja en ridículo.

[izaiaz1]

Reza porq a los señores de Ford como tu dices no les de por acer lo mismo q Renault i vaciar un Focus de esos jajajajaja,q no es lo q ni querian acer ni quieren,comparalo con el renault normal

[cavv]

si no lo hubiesen querido hacer, para que molestarse en hacer la version RS? jajaja no es culpa de Renault haber vaciado como dices el Megane...ellos optaron por eso, Ford opto por un motor mas grande y un chasis reforzado. Al final del dia en la pista, la diferencia la termina haciendo el conductor en este tipo de carros : ) los dos son excelentes

[launchini100]

Y se VENDERAN muchos más focus que megane , que es lo que quería ford

[caradebiste]

y tu reza por q los d renault no metan en un megane un 5cilindros y 2.5 cc como la cagada esa d ford, q pena les deberia dar q un auto d 300hp le haga sombra un clio sport con motor atmosferico

[Jaimeantidiesel]

Pues que hubiese pesado menos....