MW3 Discussion | Stop The Deathstreaks | 35-3 Hanoi TDM

[DaDonnTroopah]

Black ops 2 should have no Ghost

[fearthe8eard]

Black Ops 2 needs to bring back stopping power. It provided the perfect balance for cold blooded in MW2 and camouflage in W@W before that. Treyarch got rid of it, please put it back. It wasn't even broken.

[Martinx88813]

I hope Black 2 is not the next one that me BS....

[Blundtly]

Maybe if you where one of the noobs going 3-35, instead of 35-3, you would think deathstreaks is ok. Just my 2 kroner.

[SuperN4ru]

he can look in the future :D

[h0b0ph0bia]

i use juiced because it seems to piss people off the least

[BoBJaNEtMaRts23]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE THUNDER SONG! OMG JIZZ JIZZ JIZZ (and`you of course :)

[rubiks15]

The most broken thing is Dead man's Hand. Not only does he go into noobstand, but has C4! It would be tolerable if the maps weren't so close quarters.

[LAdumpsterbaby]

only thing im QQ about is the lack of diving that will be going on in this game

[ih8makinusernames]

Deathstreaks don't help new players, they just piss off the old ones.

Honestly, they don't do shit to help you out as a new player. If you can't aim, don't know the map and can't cap an objective to save your life how is shitting a grenade out your ass or getting free second chance going to teach you anything at all? How will it make you a better player? And its not like new players will be scared away from the game if there aren't Deathstreaks. Black Ops proved it. Get that shit outta MW3.

[nikodominique12]

well mw3 = more bullet damge no need for stoppingpower so death streaks make it even i guess and yes deathstreaks suck

[TheEisDragon]

I don't mind deathstreaks in mw2 unless it's painkiller or martyrdom...and most of the time it's painkiller.

[Randomperson796]

Thunder you still speak my mind man. Thats why I love you videos!

[AB209]

Min 2:37: I know right?!?!?

While I despised martyrdom and painkiller I never really had an issue with final stand. I use for every class but only get actual kills with it maybe about 20% of the time ( maybe I suck with it, LOL ). IMO the deathstreaks didn't really alter the COD experience for me at least.

Btw, love the chopper gunner montage!

[xKenshinHimura]

At the 7.30 mark you die by one dude because you are jumping, hopping and skipping like it is halo and that it is going to do something. Why do you do that? And to all you other idiots, just stop doing that because IT DOES NOT HELP. All it does is make you look like a jackass. And while you are at it, just stop dropshotting too, it gives me all too easy headshots (thus decreasing your chance of surviving the encounter) and makes you look like a dumbass.

[glegomonster]

what does dead mans hand do?

[2MANYlamps]

@glegomonster i know,i want to know too

[Ryan23H]

@glegomonster drops c4 when u die requires 6 deaths in a row

[busterbrownation]

I see the same bullshit on every comment.

In my 100% honest to goodness opinion, EVERYTHING besides Assassin and deathstreaks can be argued as having a counter/balanced.

If you don't like the sound of the game just leave it at, "I'm not buying MW3."

BF3, GoW3, whatever you might fancy, is fine.

You don't have to just play CoD and whine like hell about CoD. Most gamers don't, so why should you?

If you want to argue with me in the comments section, go ahead.

[AgentSpiral]

@busterbrownation Thank you I was just about to post this. You get a thumbs up.

[busterbrownation]

@AgentSpiral Yea, thanks... I think people just sensationalize the whole thing, really.

[MonsterHunter971]

@busterbrownation Assassin has a counter Recon but since Scavenger doesnt reseply grenades or equipment its almost worthless

[busterbrownation]

@MonsterHunter971 Nobody really uses Recon though :(

It's really just outclassed by SoH. Blind Eye whippersnappers use blind eye...

Hell, because I only find Recon to be truly useful on a rush/run and gun class, I'll always pick SoH or even Ex. cond over it.

Recon's my perk of choice when sniping, simply because I don't care for SoH (pistol secondary)

[MonsterHunter971]

@busterbrownation true i use blind eye for my anti air lmg and stinger missile the reason Recon is so under powered because scavenger doesnt give you more grenades and other tac grenades

[M16Ben]

@2596x Yeah, I don't quite get why IW and Sledgehammer put deathstreaks in the game. They don't help too much. I have been killed by Final Stand in MW2 two times and Martyrdom is not that common. I most often die by Painkiller, which is the one I hate because that gives the user virtual invincibility. Final Stand is not unlocked for awhile in MW3, so it won't be very common. You have to remember that MW3 is going back to the old ranking up and unlocking system that was in MW2.

[M16Ben]

@2596x I am just saying they are not the worst thing ever. Commando, OMA, Danger Close, Last Stand and Second Chance ruin games for me. Deathstreaks are more passive than those things. MW2 is a great game without those things, and deathstreaks are not extremely big.

[Th3Gamemaster2010]

I dont care abot deathstreaks, and I dont know why someone would hate them? I hated painkiller, but thats it, other than that its ok. But.... I was killed in MW2 by fïnal stand and martyrdom like 10 times in 10 days of gaming, not that bad.

[busterbrownation]

@Th3Gamemaster2010 The problem with deathstreaks is that half of what you're going to see is GOING TO BE final stand and martyrdom.

Painkiller was probably about 85%-90% of what you saw.

[Th3Gamemaster2010]

@busterbrownation Yes, but still, martyrdom... I have quick reflexes and the nade has 3 sec time to explode, I can easily avoid it. And final stand... well as I mainly rush thats not a big deal. I always shoot more bullets than its need to kill, just in case. I dont like deathstreaks but I dont hate them neither...

[busterbrownation]

@Th3Gamemaster2010 Yea, I don't see them as that big of a deal either, but they really do have a very negative impact on the game.

Even though, of course, they took painkiller out, I think people still have the worst memories of painkiller...

[Th3Gamemaster2010]

@busterbrownation As I said, painkiller was the problem for me. And cuz its off now, I am happy. But your points are good.

[M16Ben]

Robert Bowling said no Last Stand in MW3. Ne never talked about deathstreaks. Final Stand and Last Stand are different. People shouldn't get them mixed up. C'mon guys, deathstreaks aren't the worst thing. You have to die several times in a row without getting a kill. I don't know why people are so upset about Final Stand. I hate Last Stand and Second Chance because because people get them every time they die, but it takes 4 deaths to get Final Stand, so it's not that bad.

[DJaz11]

Seth Rogan?

[DJaz11]

song at the start made me turn this off

[SpicyTofuTower]

Death streaks make no sense at all! I believe the only way to get smarter is to fight a smarter opponent.

[geri5678]

well i never really used the deathstreaks in MW2, i was just put copycat on, and dont used, its ok, but i really hate people running with painkiller :S thats a horrible thing

[GrizzlyAnders]

what if the player doesn't pick the deathstreak but the game mode has a deathstreak attached to it like demo has painkiller, teams who run down and sit on a spawn and your dead as soon as u spawn before u even take a step how quick would that stop if painkiller was built into the gamemode people would stop spawn camping if they knew the other team would be spawning w/ 3times there life in just a few seconds of it, revenge in ffa dont camp 2 hard after a min people r going 2 know rite where u r

[xihakuix]

hm maybe deathstreaks are there because they lost all their talent and had to copy and paste mw2 onto mw3.

[tylerf13ful]

i would like to see an automatic M16, unlocked at a later level, like 50's or 60's.

[SuperNinjaGinger]

@tylerf13ful I would HATE to see that! It's much to powerful ,has too great of range, and keeping it tri-burst is the only thing keeping it from being over powered.

[MrGladBEASTftw]

@tylerf13ful no

[tylerf13ful]

Dude, you are fantastic. You and whitely7thst are so creative. Kudos to you, with the background music and everything. God Bless my friend. Keep doing what your doing bro. I subbed, and favorited your vids

[tylerf13ful]

Demolition was WAYYY BETTER IN MW2

[tylerf13ful]

i really don't have a big problem with death streaks, along as theres no painkiller, theres no problem with it, my personal opinion of course

[crazya6565]

Now THAT'S some funny shit. I was watching your videos and I'm agreeing all the way and then here I'm watching this one and I almost shit myself. You're totally right. Why ISN'T copy cat in mw3? I hate death streaks in general but if they're talking about helping the "newbies" out, wouldn't copy cat be the best choice for that? Welp, only thing I have to say is fuck yo couch ward.

[MsPhazey]

i hate "gay" shit in cod... i play on servers that have at least half of the perks banned lol. but i dont have any problem with the deathstreaks in mw3 (so far i dont know how they will perform) because its 5 deaths in a row to get last stand... 5 deaths in a row for higher damage for 1 kill

[Xelig00n]

Deathstreaks aren't the worst of ideas.

But they will NEVER manage to implement it in a good or logical way.

They should just fix the spawns instead if they want to get rid of spawnkilling (which I do think they should get rid of. I know there's people who are like "Herp de derp if they're that bad they deserve to be spawntrapped" but that's really not good game design lol)

[bcorn8]

iw just doesnt get that the more stuff you put in the game the more headaches and annoying shit happens. even if you try to balance it all. you know why cod4 and waw are amazing? simplicity. theres just not enough stuff for it to be as ridicoulously as mw2, bo, and as mw3 will be

[MrKev57]

Nobody would need deathstreaks if they just fixed thier spawns

[SportsNation730]

man i've been asking for the name of the background beats since, you've been using them thunder. Are you ever gonna give me some info?

[TheMRrikyc]

best commentator ever !!

[TheZhengmeister]

things can be unfair in call of duty. all they have to be is unnoticable. the reason why people didn't care about stopping power, however unfair it was, was that it wasn't noticable.

[stoffes]

6 deathstreaks , 6 tac granades , martyrdom (with c4) and looooots of killstreaks , 6 diffrent rpgs and rocketlaunchers, 6 snipers! quickscooping nerds , and if u get 8 killstreak u can have all the perks, or 6 at least :) i love to see if this game is gonna be fun !

[TheWoodstock2009]

@stoffes OMG Blops was screwed by 2 or 3 weapons and 1 perk.Now we have more ridicoulous perks,quickscoping,deathstreak­s,martyrdom,explosives,probabl­y a lot of OP-potential guns,STACKABLE KILLSTREAKS and to top it all off the possibility of having double the amount of OP perks!!!100% probsbility of game being fucked up

[xXDarkPs3x360KingX]

@stoffes u mad cuz u cant qs lack of skills

[busterbrownation]

@stoffes Just b/c I'm coming back to this video for comments...

I hope you realize how inconsequential your complaints are.

Deathstreaks -- whatever (bigger problem in MW2)

Tac grenades/killstreaks (?????????????????? on tac grenades, lolwut on streaks)

Explosives IN GENERAL (lololol even more useless than in Black Ops)

Quickscoping (go fuck yourself, I think it should be common knowledge that reg guns have always been more consistent)

Specialist (HELLA fun, no worries here)

[MrBornToKill117]

Louder than Thor! Can you hear that Thunder roar? Bayum Bitch!

[gartios11]

@PulseNAJJ i can see why people like quick scoping but it does get a little overpowered when people are too good at it. but hey its just a game oh well

[DethklokFan314]

@PulseNAJJ

you mean aim assist lol

[gartios11]

@PulseNAJJ umm how? and yeah cause a sniper adsing as fast as a sub but the sniper only takes one bullet to kill while an smg takes like 3 or 4 dont u thihnk theres something wrong if a sniper beats an smg in a straight gunfight?

[xFallensk8er420x]

i dont get why it so hard for cod developers to listen to their community. Its as if theyve never played their own game

[gartios11]

@PulseNAJJ good point. but we already have death streaks. uhh oh well but in my opinino it still shouldnt be as good as mw2. i can tolerate cod4 but mw2 i mean come on ads with quick draw is just way too fast

[iamSnip3rOne]

that chopper gunner after the middle of this vid looks like fun other wise Black Ops is stupid. sorry to say

[bruins4life10111]

Love the song!!!

[SirLilbadman]

we should all favourite all of thunder's videos from now on

[brunosmydog]

but why are you hatin on the death streaks if you see someone with a death streak you know your owning them or at least tell us why you no like death streaks

[SuperRockfrog]

Last stand is only available in Spec ops

[chukfluu]

what does dead man's hand do?

[KaiserFlamberge]

-_-

[benficaman1000]

youre knife is probaly broken like mine =(

[aleksandar245]

thubs this video ,favorite it so infinity ward can see it

[sierrasrock]

Im with you thunder but when you said "we all dont like the same things, gotta respect other peoples opinions". Kinda hypocritical bro, im sure theres plenty of assassin noobs that will love death streaks, respect there FUCKED up opinion :)

[1990banks]

MW3=MONEY WASTED THIRD TIME lol (i had/have zero faith in RobertBowling)

[GAMING24SEVEN]

Since Deathstreaks gonna be available no matter what, then make it possible so it is only activated to a certain level, for example since the max level for the next Prestige is 80 make it so it is activated for each prestige from level 1 to 40 or 50 then after that it automatically deactivates until you reach the next prestige Thumbs up if you agree!!!

[1990banks]

@GAMING24SEVEN great idea but its a shame it wont be implemented

[thesawmachine100]

death streaks suck , i used them before and they were useless, that stuff is 4 noobs , ur rigth 402THUNDER402 it should be removed , if they suck they suck this will not help them

[JOCR13]

i was watching this and then when the song said can you hear that thunder roar, there was thunder at my house!!

[mmawrestlereg]

ok fucking rly ima g

[SquallyHD]

what does dead mans hand do?

[DavidBallZ98]

@SquallyHD Basically think kamakazi after the scrub dies.

[kikokyle]

Wellllllllllll technically he said last stand isn't coming back not final stand........ damn

[survivor857]

MW3 IS THE BEST OF THE BEST

[XXquickysnipez]

(BATTLEFIELD 3) AND BOOM GOES THE NERD WAR

[exexed]

Kinda jealous of those theme songs :l

[kaboose86]

thank bt for my sub lol your videos are amazing

[ClearlyJesus]

I honestly don't mind that deathstreaks are coming back. I don't like that they're coming back, but they didn't bother me too much in MW2, apart from Painkiller, that was a bitch, the rest weren't too powerful though.

[ironpalmslapped]

Your theme song kills...subbed!

[SuperRJProduction]

When i try to knife, no lunge whatsoever

When enemy knife, they just teleport to where i am and get me even if they were looking the opposite way

[FREEEDOgaming]

def agree - useful but non-leathal deathstreaks are fine - -besides the noobs that are actually planning on using deathstreaks will only use the ones that give them some sort of free kill, thus making Copycat and juiced or whatever they want to put in -- useless. But, the deathhand one you need what 6 or 8 deaths in a ROW? that seems balanced to me lol.

[beastlysniper23]

the knife is the black ops deathstreak......i die multiple times in a row either trying to knife or getting knifed

[chops3690]

It seems to me that deathstreaks are put in the game partly to combat spawn trapping. Wouldn't it just be a better idea to give everyone a spawn shield, i.e. you're invincible for like 5 seconds after you spawn. It's been done in other FPS's like Rainbow Six and it does its job just fine.

[GnRandAVGN]

@chops3690 Thats a HORRIBLE idea, sounds like painkillers on steroids.

[chops3690]

@GnRandAVGN It's no less horrible than being able to run around with a fucking C4 in your hand. If 5 seconds is too long, they could make it 2 or 3 seconds then. The point would be so you don't spawn and die immediately which happens all the time in CoD because apparently nobody can design a spawning system that isn't broken.

[GnRandAVGN]

@chops3690 I don't know how good you are, or what game modes you play, but tell me honestly. How often are you spawn camped like that? That has NEVER happend to me? I never play anything else than regular TDM and DOM. HQ, DEM and ground war are the most rage inducing game modes for reasons explained in this video.

If there's any problem with the spawns, it's the fact that people spawn around you. Maybe it should rather be that you can't shoot for 5 secs after you spawn! Sounds wonderfull -.-

[luisalexander70]

the only reason theres deathstreaks is because there like 20 overpower killstreaks in this game 

[JohnEGOGaming]

Since Bowling lied about death streaks and final stand in multiplayer, what else has he lie about. Deathstreaks SHOULDN'T be in the game. Every other MW3 video gets me excited then the next one upsets me...woof.

[gamalahalaff1]

lol i have a flight to catch :D. subbed

[chemikal99]

Do you lose all of your proficencies and levels on all of your guns when you prestige in MW3? If that statement is true, it's going to be a pain in the ass to level each weapon and unlock proficencies since the cap is going to set at 80.

[Redfield199]

what is dead mans hand!?!? I mean , what does it do??

[RuiGomes43]

Do something special for 300 video

[TigreMissle]

I agree with U about Final Stand and Martyrdom. I also agree about the helpfull deathstreaks like Juiced but I think there is a weapon proficency that does pretty much the same thing. Idk about all the proficency stuff but yeah Damage was one of them. Also I think it was Last Stand that was getting removed not Final Stand. Again not really sure but thats what I thought it was.

[Yrian96]

@TigreMissle damage is shotgun only



[TigreMissle]

@Yrian96 Oh thanks didnt know that lol

[xEchoTangox]

guys people talking about deathstreaks, once they kill someone with it its gone so its not like they are repeatedly spawning it

[KyRoGaming]

dead mans hand?

[Yrian96]

@KyRoGaming when you die u blow up like a c4

[pleasedontbIockme]

for some reason they allways try to make the MW-Games extremly noob friendly.

[NinjaaPiegon]

so basically everything i hate from black ops and mw2 is in mw3, what a shit game its going to be. Robert bowling has failed again.

[CrazyAussieGamer]

Fuck Last stand, martyrdom and pain killer.

[diabloho]

I agree with you 100%

I guess we'll have to wait and see how badly they effect the game.

Last stand is a bitch move, fucking die already asshole!

[aquamanxz2]

if they stop the deathstreaks they also have to stop the crazy killstreaks, cuz sometimes u get spwan trapped or killed by harriers. i don't like deathstreaks but the have to reduce killstreaks.

[MrNuckFuggets]

P.S. Just started watching your videos and I like the way you compose your vids. You voice your opinion but do it respectfully.

[MrNuckFuggets]

I am against deathstreaks always have been. However, in MW3 they don't seem that bad. I think mainly because there isn't painkiller and the really powerful one you have to die 5 times in a row. If they die 5 times in a row, chances are those won't even help them.

[FireMan378504]

U got another sub cause ur awesome

[WoWhead4life1]

you sir, just got another sub

[LazyBoy1243]

TAKE OUT FINAL STAND AND ADD IN COPYCAT! (:

[Snipe445]

Can anybody else say... GENIOUS!!!!

[fittalover]

I hate them because why caiter to the BAD player. death streaks that can't fuck you over are fine but the others suck ass

[Chamber691]

bowling didn't lie he said that second chance was gone which means perk not deathstreak but if second chance is gone final should be as well

[bruins4life10111]

Blame truth brought me to ur channel checked 3 vids and subbed. Great vids and commentaries :)

[cdevin90]

@bruins4life10111 same here man

[Jorfen12345]

@bruins4life10111 same lol

[lovemyjays830]

@bruins4life10111 welcome to the thunder family lol

[PCPSn1p3r]

IW rewarding bad players as opposed to good ones? WHAT A F*CKING SURPRISE!

[oOoFlam3oOo]

COD is WAY too noob friendly

[lilpandejo]

@oOoFlam3oOo you are right thehy just want a new generation of shitty players to earn them more money.

[Mnim96]

why are deathstreaks bad?

[TheDeadlyXins]

@Mnim96 ITS A FUCKING WAY TO PUNISH GOOD PLAYERS AND REWARD SHITTY PLAYERS! HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF YOU WERE THE BEST PLAYER ON A BASEBALL TEAM AND YOU WON IT FOR YOUR TEAM AND THE WATER BOY GETS THE BIG PRIZE?

[lilpandejo]

@Mnim96 you dumbass, they reward shitty players and punish people who crush noobs

[Mnim96]

@lilpandejo fuck off cunt, if your fucking pussy enough to die from a deathstreak then ur the noob faggot dont call me the dumb ass u fucking faggot cunt piss off american shithole fucking twit

[itsepocx]

revenge will be no problem, especially in snd!! you have to die 5 times in a ROW to get it. come on!

[itsepocx]

i agree

[Akofilipino1]

Revenge is going to be an incredibly annoying deathstreak in search and destroy

[DeluxeChipmunk]

what does dead mans hand do?

[TheRuff112]

@DeluxeChipmunk after 6 death you spawn with a c4 in your hand

[gbpackfan404040]

@TheRuff112 yes but thats only SND... not like dom or demo.

[TheRuff112]

@gbpackfan404040 sucide bomber

[wwe3is4awsome]

subed

[STJDWT]

whats dead mans hand do

[chinezeFURY]

@STJDWT click on the link in the description, all the info you need

[joebezza2k7]

why the fuck do cod developers keep screwing us over every year. there are things in mw3 that are clearly going to be overpowered and it isnt even out for another 2 months. they seriously can just not get it right. they take out some overpowered stuff from the previois game and then ruin it by adding new overpowered stuff its ridiculous

[XxDarkEagle13xX]

what does "dead man's hand do"... nd man i love deathstreaks, fuck yeah i wanted tht shit back... i love it so much i feel like stabbing robert bowling to tha face for putting them back

[THEwhichimicallit]

"feel free to stop me if i'm making to much sense here" im gonna use that a lot

[kenpachi2424]

This guy is great he speaks for all the legit COD players out there.

[TheTomandJJ]

BAD NOT GOOD = DEATHSTREAKS!

[Pogopeople93]

hate deathstreaks without one: COPYCAT it was so great fresh prestiged lvl 4 whats better than get the mp5k with ex mags, lightweight marathon and steady all in pro, after u get raped 4 times from that overlord? what's ur oppinion?

[CrazyDude269]

Cant Treyarch make a fucking call of duty just like CoD2? no perks, good grafics, nice maps....just raw gameplay with nothing such as "camping cuz of my perks" needed. Cant they understand we want a game that we can enjoy..and not complain about how powerfull the other guy is...or how can he kill me with 2 shots n crap like that...we wanna enhoy the game..not make every1 frustrated over other people.

[venomdrawer]

@CrazyDude269 barebones?

[skenvoy666]

Love your work Thunder, wish I'd subbed sooner!!

[redduCudder]

just saw 2 of your videos man.. fucken great commentaries man!! earned yourself another sub

[ziiizzzooo]

@redduCudder same here, i saw the first vid then subbed right away.

[spaceman913]

Im with you thunder deathstreaks should help or not even be there at all

[vkiller217]

@jdb123ism thanks didn't know

[GcItalianBoy]

It's just not worth buying...

[SBDxL3G3ND]

they said they weren't bringing back second chance but theyre bring back final stand yup thats a big difference 0_o

[GPizzle666]

class ump45, FMG-9, recon, assassin, dead silence , GAME OVER SON

[vkiller217]

whats dead mans hand

[Str8upAFC]

They didnt have to lie about the removal of 2nd chance last chance whatever they wanna call it.. Thats not cool

Don't think ima give them a 2nd chance..

[taiko729]

They have a chance to save Modern Warfare 3. Take out Assassin. Take the chance. Please.

[PupsEmmi]

haha i never noticed Black ops had no deathstreaks until you mentioned it :D

[cartmanofsp]

1,000 Signatures, oOoOoOo that'll make them take the deathstreaks out.. Get real.

[blackace0987]

for the final stand death streak you need to die 6 times in a row with 0 kills so you really need to suck to be able to use it

@blackace0987

oooh trust me, if mw2 was any indication of how bad all the new c