The purpose and origins of public education - John Gatto

[mamabritts]

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[tanrat7]

In the richest country in europe, 1 in 4 kids goes beyond elementary school. that is poignant!

[forthepieinthesky]

i mean schools great but to force sum1 to do sumthing like go to school....i just see it as unnecessary. and to force people to serve the elite. i mean i cud just go on but i just feel so tired this whole systems jus draining me....sumthings gotta be dun i think. seems like it

[greg0rius]

@forthepieinthesky

I'm sorry but your response would have more credibility if you could actually write using proper vocabulary and grammar.

[forthepieinthesky]

more blood has been shed in the 20ths and 21st century than all the other combined i think its sumthing like tht or more than the last 5 or sumthing, anyways seems like bloodshed goes up as does compulsory schooling

[forthepieinthesky]

relliii....wowww i wudda never guessed tht war and school had anything in common at all....jeeeeee are they relli connected?????wuda never guessed (rolling eyes)

[ion010101]

On the other hand, if dumbness doesn't exist in high numbers, how were the utopians and authoritarians able to sucker everyone into letting the state raise their kids? Read, "Animal Farm". The farm animals will end up being exploited no matter what you do because they're not smart enough, on average, to avoid it. Dumbness doesn't exist in high enough numbers to warrant forced schooling, but dumbness exists in high enough numbers to institute forced schooling.

[optionsupdate]

what is the best way to teach children mathematics?

[evmazu]

@optionsupdate Haven't tried it myself but have heard great things about the Robinson Curriculum K-12 homeschool program: robinsoncurriculum dott com

[researchologist]

@evmazu It's actually not a true curriculum in the sense you assume. All the cd's are actually scanned in and copied pages of many many books. There has been some advances in the function and lesson plans in the last few years. But for the program to work the first thing you have to do is REMOVE all sugar & tv from your home. Change your child's diet and sleeping patterns. No Kidding! I've homeschooled for over 20 years and purchased this curriculum about 10 years ago. No math is included.

[DanPrinMan]

This guys sounds like Ben Stein.

Anyways.

[geehuckwow]

The first purpose of public paid schools is to support the TAX/THEFT SYSTEM which supports it. The FIRST DUTY of citizenship is to eliminate ALL tax and other controls on economy. Taxation is murder. The first duty in supporting tax is media control = TV, Cities' main Newspapers, Schools, Churches. YouTube is great! The Murderers are trying to eliminate YouTube, Net freedom of speech, and all LOGIC. The US Constitution was not "We The People" but 39 thieves, supporting taxation and murder.

[tigersoup]

god this man is boring to listen to... no wonder not many are following him... coz he is not marketing himself well!

[liensvoice]

@tigersoup fuck you. did you hear that? fuck you.

[DanPrinMan]

@tigersoup

He is boring, but correct.

[MartialArtsMaster]

@tigersoup

What does it say about you that you're more concerned with how well he is marketing himself than you are with what he is saying and whether or not he is right? What does it say about you that you're more concerned with his capacity to "market himself," or beat out competitors, than you are with whether or not his analysis is insightful and whether or not it accurately describes the source of some of our problems?

[arzoyan]

The evolution of recent human history has been dominated by minority control over the majority, the rulers have come up with nessesary illusion for compliance and servitude of the many, Science and technology has created a world of plenty, but the market mechanism is about artificial scarcity to perpetuate poverty and exploitation in a modality of war,enviornmental destructions,animal cruelty and so on . The new paradigm is sharing the Earth for our collective needs and wellbeing

[DrBakshandeh]

schools are an evil g-dless entity that has to be gotten rid of!

[Dastgreene]

Fascinating.

[Corvus54]

I stopped watching on the switzerland thing. Of course the swiss are rich; Their government throws money at them, and they're almost garunteed jobs.

[evmazu]

It seems it was done in Canada but I don't know when. Google "John Taylor Gatto - Beyond Schooling" and you should be able to find the entire recording (it seems to already be on youtube)

[ShmuelSpade]

Where and when was this talk delivered?