ginan ABIDA PARVEEN for AGA KHAN -- NICE & CLEAR

[zulizali]

Each time I hear him, I get goose bumps, awesome way he sings it.

[noor729]

Allah o Akbar...May God bless u with immense happiness and long life, my sister. ABIDA PARVEEN

[ayesha975]

i wish u sing the ginan in pakistan and i can be there..MASHALLAH

[sammughal79]

Well they feel happy to follow who Shaheed Hazrat Muhammad P.B.U.H Grandson , whose father shaheed Hazrat Ali A.S, whose Grandfather harmed Hazrat Muhammad P.B.U.H.

so what else should I sayyyy ....

[ferrari5107]

@sammughal79 Man, you went all out on this venky whatever guy. Where is he, I need my answer, you need yours. Plus you and me got some more questions too. Where you at venky?

[venkyhyundai]

@ferrari5107

Hey...i am back. Tell me what is your question?? Ask one question at a time, so we can keep track and have an educated discussion.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... After Ramadan Shaitan is back ?? Well you can check all the previous posts and find out all the questions and you can reply to them one by one.

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79

About aga khan not selling alcohol, pls search for "aga khan sells alcohol" on youtube. The description of this video has all the links to serena hotels that have bars. Some of them in kenya & tanzania have the words "wine beer etc.." mentioned on thier site. So he does sell alcohol.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... Venkyyyyy you are really sickkk mannn, you are like a Dog tail it never straigthens ... go get yourself checked with Psychiatrist.

BTW I didn't ask question about Alcohol, check my other posts and respond to them PLEASE .

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79 Ask me one question at a time this will enable better understanding, rather than confuse. Go ahead ask.

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79 & @ferrari5107

Sorry guys, will reply after ramzaan. too busy. Actually after ramzaan I am starting an ismaili research phone line.

any ismaili will be able to call me to a local number in thier city in north america and we can do our discussion there. May Allah guide us. I will post the phone number on my channel soon.

tc

[sammughal79]

Now a small comparision .. 90% of Ismali offer thier 3 times daily prayers, 90 % of Non-Ismaili Muslims do not offer their 5 times prayers ... 90 % of the Ismailis Muslims knows the meaning of their prayers where as 90 % of the Non-Ismaili Muslims do not knows the meaning of their prayers and if we do not knows the meaning then it means we are just doing exercise.

[sammughal79]

Also I would like to say that, they says that we do not read Quran. Let me clarify them we get Sawab equals to reading 4 times quran daily .. How ?? According to Ahadis, reading Surah Fatiha ( Al Hamd ) you get sawab equals to reading a whole quran & by reading surah Ikhlas 3 times you get sawab of reading whole quran. we Ismailis read 3 times Surah Fatiha and 3 times Surah Ikhlas in our daily prayers so this means we get Sawab equals to reading 4 times Quran daily.

[ferorafrau]

@sammughal79 could you pls give reference about ahadis in which book these ahadis are?  pls quote complete reference for my info

[ferrari5107]

@sammughal79 good to see you. Ok lets get straight in to the discussion. First, in Quran Allah says (not exact words, just paraphrasing) Allah has sent a messenger for people of every time and age. Who is that messenger in this time and age? Dont say Quran, because Quran is not a person. And since you like to take meaning to Quran in zahiri form, so Quran cant be that messenger. Who is that.

[sammughal79]

@ferrari5107 ... its useless to discuss it with them as they just Argue can't debate, even they know and understand everything but they do not accept. They feel good to Follow Yazeed & do do the same deeds. Neither its a good platform to discuss such topics. We better be a good human beings and treat each others as Brothers and Sisters and make this earth a peaceful place. May Allah bless us all.

[sammughal79]

Now question is ... If that is the shirk then the first shirk was done by Allah Himself, when he ask all the Angles to do Sajda to Hazrat Adam A.S ... What was that then ???

the one who do not Obeys Allah became the biggest evil of all Shaitan, so the one who do not obeys Hazrat Muhammad P.B.U.H ... What we will call them then ??? Now I appreciate Venky and other guys to answer this question please then I have some more for as well.

[sammughal79]

Now I would like to ask 1 questions which asked to Venkyhundai and other ppl but never got answered ...They says that we do Shirk and we Sajda to our Imam.

firstly Alhamdoliallah we do not do any shirk. Shirk is to accepts 2 Gods and we never accepts any one as a God except Allah. concern with the Sajda ... Sajda is means of respect and to give yourself to whom you are doing Sajda ... so Yes All of our soul, body, wealth is belong to our Imam from depth of our heart. Now Q is Cont.

[sammughal79]

so the problem is they didn't accepted it and they are still at the same time 1400 yrs back ... Christians are 1600 Yrs back as & Jews are 2000 Years back as they are still stucked with what knowledge (iLm) they get.

[sammughal79]

Allah sent 124000/- messengers, All conveyed the same msg of Allah. Hazrat Muhammad P.B.U.H was the Master of all. He gave the same msg as other messengers of Allah did. But on the announcement of Hazrt ali Imamat on his last Haj at Gadir khum, Allah clearly says " I have completed the Deen-e-islam today. Even Hazrat Abu bakar accepts that initially and congratulate Hazrat Ali and then after he denied ... This is mentioned in Sunnis books as well. I already quoted the book name earlier... Cont

[ferrari5107]

All the ppl out here trying to say Aga Khan is wrong, Ismailism is wrong. I have few questions. Lets start with this one: Quran says that Allah has sent a messenger for people of every time and age. Then who is the messenger of this time and age?

[PEACEisISLAM313]

Role of imamat [36:12] is different from prophethood…which allah has illustrated in the example of hazrat musa a.s and hazrat khizar a.s SURAH 18 AAYAT 60-80 [plz read them]…imam work is like hazrat khizar a.s which may seem wrong if u only see its esoteric zahir as works of hazrat khizar a.s seems wrong intially even 2 hazart musa a.s...but by tawil u will come know that it has benefit for all and it has hikmat which allah likes SURAH BAQRAH :269

[PEACEisISLAM313]

SERENA HOTEL IS KIND OF INDEPENDENT INSTITUTION WHICH COMES UNDER AKFED-AGA KHAN FUNDS FOR ECONOMICAL DEVELOPMENT..WHICH COMES UNDER AKDN EVEN I DO AGREE WITH U THAT ITS WRNG BUT IF 1 INSTITUTION HAS A FLAW DOESN'T MEAN DAT WHOLE IMAMAT IS WRONG…N THIS DOENT CORRESPONDS TO `IMAM IS SELLING ALCOHOL`..

DATS THE FLAW OF THAT SINGLE INSTITUTION N MAY B

THIS IS THE REASON WHY IMAM HAS QUOTED THAT `MY INSTITUTIONS ARE NOT PERFECT`

LIKE TALIBAN KILL INNOCENT PPL BUT DO ISLAM TEACH DAT ??

[venkyhyundai]

@PEACEisISLAM313

if u give anyone a full glass of water with ONE drop of urine mixed in it, would any sane person drink it??

this is the first drop of urine you see in your glass of water.

anyways, I have made my point abt alcohol selling.

Now lets take the next point..

GAMBLING

what is the defination of gambling in ismailism?

[PEACEisISLAM313]

@venkyhyundai NO BROTHER,I THOUGHT U WERE RATIONAL BUT CONCLUDING 1 MALPRACTICE AGAINST IMAM GUIDANCE BY A HOTEL WHICH IS REMOTELY RELATED,TO IMAM ACT IS IRRATIONAL…UR POINT WAS VALID IF IMAM WAS RUNNING A FUL FLASH BAR OR SOMTHING…UR CORRESPONDENCE IS LIKE TAKING E.G OF 1 SUICIDE BOMBER N SAYING NAUSUBILLAB RASHOOL TEACHING WAS WRONG

IF I CONSIDER UR E.G THAT ONE DROP OF URINE IS TALIBAN\SUICIDE BOMER WHICH KILL INNOCENT PLL AND THAT GLASS IS ISLAM.. R U TELLING ME 2 LEAVE ISLAM?

[venkyhyundai]

@PEACEisISLAM313

I REJECT the religion practiced by the suicide bomber...suicide is haraam & killing innocent people is haraam is islam.

it was not taught by the rasool....

i have rejected the glass of water with one drop of suicide bomber

are u prepared to reject the glass of water with an alcohol selling imaam in it??

[PEACEisISLAM313]

SALAM I THINK I HAVE ANSWERED UR QUESTION NOW LET ASK 'YOU" THAT BEING A TRUE MUSLIM FOLLOWER HOW DO YOU FOLLOW THESE VERSES AND COMMANDS OF ALLAH

1.SURAH NISAAH 4: AAYAT 59 - "OBEY ILAHI AMAR KE MALIK"

WHO ACCORDING TO QURAN SHOULD BE:

> KHALIF-E-KHUDA (2:30)

>RASIQOON FIL ILAM (3:7)

>AAL-E-IMRAN(3:33)

>AHLA-ZIKAR(21:7)

2. HOLD FAST THE ROPE OF ALLAH (3:103)..IF YOU SAY QURAN IS THE ROPE OF GOD..THEN EVERY FIRKA HAVE A HOLDED IT..SO Y THEY GOT DIVIDED IF QURAN WAS THE ROPE??

[PEACEisISLAM313]

ANS 1) HOTEL SERENA DO HAVE A POOL BAR WHICH HAVE SNACKS N BEVERAGES(WITHOUT ALCOHOL)

ANS 2)HE DO SPORTS NOT GAMBLING AND CHECK THE LAW EVEN BETTING ON HORSES IS NOT COUNTED AS GAMBLING

ANS 3) INTEREST THAT AL-HABIB ETC CHARGES IS FUTURE VALUE OF MONEY..WHICH ISLAMIC BANKS CALL TARIFF IT IS NOT THE SHOOD WHICH QUR'AN REFER 2..

ANS 4) RLY NICE QUS IT HAS TAWIL (18:78) OBVIOUSLY IF SUM1 IS POOR BUT HE DON'T HAV MONEY DOESNT MEAN HE CANT BECOME NOORANI

ANS 5) AKHSS DO HAVE ISLAMITAT..

[313shezdr]

@venkyhyundai

FIRST OF ALL YOU ANSWER US.. THAT Y SHOULD WE ANSWER U? WHO R U 2 QUESTION US?...

NAUZUBILLAH R U PROPHET OR R U AUTHORITY FROM GOD (SURAH AL NISA 4: AYAT 59)

OR R U AHL-E-ZIKAR (21:7)

OR R U AHL-E-BAIT (33:33)

OR R U RASIKHOON FIL ILAM (3:7) ETC

WHO R U? WHO GAVE U THE AUTHORITY???

PLZ SHOW US ANY CERTIFICATE OR PROOF THAT U HAVE RECEIVED FROM GOD STATING U R ON STRAIGHT PATH N U HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS TO CRITICIZE ON OTHERS FAITH (SEE AYAT 2:256)...WE WILL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW U

PEACE

[313shezdr]

ALLAH SAYS IN SURAH 49 AYAT 13..THAT BEST AMONG YOU IS 1 WHO IS PIOUS

JUST BECAUSE SHAH KARIM DONT WEAR BEARD AND SALWAR KAMEES DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE IS NOT PIOUS

Y DO U PPL ACT LIKE NON-MUSLIM WHO PICK SOME OUT OF CONTEXT INAPPROPRIATE THINGS N MALICE ISLAM..SAME THING U DO AND MALAISE US....WATS THE DIFFENCE BW U N THEM

PLZ DONT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABT OUR IMAM IT HURTS US..HE IS AAL-E-RASOOL SALAM AWLAD E ALI A.S N ALLAH SUBHANA WONT B PLEASE IF U HURT OTHER MUSLIM FEELINGS AND MALICE THEM

[venkyhyundai]

@313shezdr He is misguiding millions.I have my own relatives that r being misguided by him. aga khan many times says that the quran has many interpretations.what i dont understand is.. y is his interpretation always oppositte to the quran. interpretation might vary but would cannot be oppositte. for ex: quran(5:6) says wash your hands before prayers. interpretation of hand could be 1)upto wrist 2)upto elbow 3)upto shoulder ..but he says dont wash at all! thats what i hv problem with

[313shezdr]

@venkyhyundai

Salam brother m happy that at least ur tone have changed...First of all Show me any evidence any farman or speech or taliqa of Moula in which he has said so plz dnt build castle in air...n just because you think and feel that he is misguiding...wont alter the reality...

If u think and believe that u r on SIRAT-E-MUSTAQEEM then According to SUARH FATIHA tell me what INAAM-GIFT/SPECAIL NAMAT from god do u have?? that no body else have...FIRST EVALUATE UR OWN FAITH THEN CRITICIZE..

[venkyhyundai]

@313shezdr

His farmaans are under lock & key.aga khan sued his own follower for printing his faman.

Is this prophet muhammad's teaching??

Prophet muhammad says "spread even if it be ONE word".

Why does he have so many bars (serena hotels) if he is so paak & great??

[313shezdr]

ANS 1) HOTEL SERENA DO HAVE A POOL BAR WHICH HAVE SNACKS N BEVERAGES(WITHOUT ALCOHOL)

ANS 2)HE DO SPORTS NOT GAMBLING AND CHECK THE LAW EVEN BETTING ON HORSES IS NOT COUNTED AS GAMBLING

ANS 3) INTEREST THAT AL-HABIB ETC CHARGES IS FUTURE VALUE OF MONEY..WHICH ISLAMIC BANKS CALL TARIFF IT IS NOT THE SHOOD WHICH QUR'AN REFER 2..

ANS 4) RLY NICE QUS IT HAS TAWIL (18:78) OBVIOUSLY IF SUM1 IS POOR BUT HE DON'T HAV MONEY DOESNT MEAN HE CANT BECOME NOORANI

ANS 5) AKHSS DO HAVE ISLAMITAT..

[313shezdr]

I HAVE ANS UR 5 QUESTION NOE YOU ANSWER ME.. THAT Y SHOULD WE ANSWER U? WHO R U 2 QUESTION US?...

NAUZUBILLAH R U PROPHET OR R U AUTHORITY FROM GOD (SURAH AL NISA 4: AYAT 59)

OR R U AHL-E-ZIKAR (21:7)

OR R U AHL-E-BAIT (33:33)

OR R U RASIKHOON FIL ILAM (3:7) ETC

WHO R U? WHO GAVE U THE AUTHORITY???

PLZ SHOW US ANY CERTIFICATE OR PROOF THAT U HAVE RECEIVED FROM GOD STATING U R ON STRAIGHT PATH N U HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS TO CRITICIZE ON OTHERS FAITH (SEE AYAT 2:256)...WE WILL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW U

[PEACEisISLAM313]

@venkyhyundai

PLZ COMMON...if u dnt understand then question...allegation and using such words for a personality who is aal-rashool salam awlad-e-ali a.s the direct desandant of ahl-e-ebait (33:33)..this is not a quality of a muslim...m sorry to say see SURAH AL-NISHA 4:54...allah condemn people who r jealous of ahl-e-bait (aal-e-ibrahim)...dnt u fear allah what if u r wrong then what will ur end will be...actually u know nothing abt ismilism there is reason y v r diffent wch u wnt understnd!!!

[venkyhyundai]

@PEACEisISLAM313

you are just making claims...you still havent proved why the interpretation of washing hands is "no washing hands"??

[313shezdr]

@venkyhyundai THERE IS NO SUCH INTERPRETATION...BRING PROOF FIRST THEN TALK!!!

[PEACEisISLAM313]

FOR UR QUESTION ON HAND WASHING…OBVIOUSLY WE DO TAHARAT BEFORE SALAH...THERE R FARMANS OF IMAM SULTAN MOHAMMED SHAH ON IT...N NO SUCH FARMAN THAT DON’T WASH HAND…

IN ADDITION ISMILISM TEACHES IT ESOTERIC[BATINI] PART...THAT TAHARAT IS NOT JUST OF BODY IT IS SOUL THAT MATTER E.G

IN 33:33 ALLAH WANT TO PURIFY AHL-E-BAIT…IS THIS PURIFICATION OF BODY??

AND RASHOOL SALAM PURIFY PEOPLE 2:150...IS THIS TAHARAT OF BODY ONLY??N HOW?

AND ALSO SEE IN 87:14…

WE FOCUSES ON ESSENCE..

[PEACEisISLAM313]

@venkyhyundai

Role of imamat [36:12] is different from prophethood…which allah has illustrated in the example of hazrat musa a.s and hazrat khizar a.s SURAH 18 AAYAT 60-80 [plz read them]…imam work is like hazrat khizar a.s which may seem wrong if u only see its esoteric zahir as works of hazrat khizar a.s seems wrong intially even 2 hazart musa a.s...but by tawil u will come know that it has benefit for all and it has hikmat which allah likes SURAH BAQRAH :269

[PEACEisISLAM313]

@venkyhyundai SALAM BROTHER...THEY R NO CLAIM BUT THE TRUTH BY GOD...N ALLAH'S AZAB BE ON ME N M HAPPY TO GO INTO HELL FIRE IF M WORNG...MAY ALLAH SHOW U THE RIGHT PATH..

ANYWAY...U seems to know a lot abt ismilism..but if u know anthing abt its teaching then u must know that it’s a esoteric{BATINI} tariqa if u have read any farman on quran ...mula says that the esoteric meaning of quran{TAWIL} is the foundation of our tariqa…and that the reason y ismilism is different from all other sects...

[venkyhyundai]

@PEACEisISLAM313

what is esoteric?

esoteric means inside....not oppositte.

aga khan simply goes oppositte to the quran

1)sells alcohol

2)takes ineterst

3)has gambling horses.(is gambling wrong is ismailism?)

4)Quran mentions 5 times prayers, but he says 2

5)Quran says hajj to mecca...he says hajj to see him?(deedar)

[313shezdr]

@venkyhyundai ESOTERICMEAN BATIN NAME OF ALLAH 57:3 ANS 1) HOTEL SERENA DO HAVE A POOL BAR WHICH HAVE SNACKS N BEVERAGES(WITHOUT ALCOHOL)

ANS 2)HE DO SPORTS NOT GAMBLING AND CHECK THE LAW EVEN BETTING ON HORSES IS NOT COUNTED AS GAMBLING

ANS 3) INTEREST THAT AL-HABIB ETC CHARGES IS FUTURE VALUE OF MONEY..WHICH ISLAMIC BANKS CALL TARIFF IT IS NOT THE SHOOD WHICH QUR'AN REFER 2..

ANS 4) THE WORD KHAMSA-FIVE FOR SALAT IS NOT IN QURAN [ PLZ BRING ME REFRENCE]

ANS 5) HE DIDNT SAID THAT..

[venkyhyundai]

@313shezdr

Please search for  "aga khan sells alcohol" on youtube. Also see the description of the video .The description list all his serena hotels that sell alcohol.

[venkyhyundai]

@313shezdr

Please search for 'aga khan sells alcohol' on youtube. Also see the description of the video .The description list all his serena hotels that sell alcohol.

[313shezdr]

@venkyhyundai

Salam brother..Please honestly answer me on 1 thing..u rly wanna know abt ismilisim…or u jus wanna critize…or prove ur point…I have all the answer for ur question…but if u wanna jus deny then it is useless…cos if u jus wana criticize then even u will have question on god..e.g

Allah knows every thing then why he created devil on first place??

Then allah said to iblees to go away from here 38:78 then what was shetan doing in paradise to misguide hazrat adam a.s 2:36

[venkyhyundai]

@313shezdr Ok let me show you aga khan's bar where "Wine, beers, spirits.." are sold 1)Go to serenahotels-dot-com 2) In the menu "Hotels" ...then "Kenya".....then "Kilaguni Serena Safari Lodge"...click that. 3) On this page you see a link "Dinning Choices"...click that. 4) On this page you will see "Wine, Beers, Spirits .." If you want a shoter way to go to that page Please type the following code in your browser is.gd=beerwine Replace the = with a slash

[PEACEisISLAM313]

@venkyhyundai ya i checked them out...SERENA has 34 hotels chains in 8 countries out of which 2 branches says that but..even then down it says

`We also offer a wide range of soft drinks including an array of freshly-made local fruit juices. We serve only the finest Ugandan coffee and tea; we also offer a wide range of fruit and herbal infusions`.

FOCUS IS ON SOFT DRINK AND FRUITS NOT ALCOHOL.

[PEACEisISLAM313]

@venkyhyundai

BROTHER ONE THING I CANT UNDERSTAND IS WHY U R ACTING LIKE A FLY..WHICH LEAVES ALL THE GOOD STUFF AND TRY TO FIND DIRT\ MESS AND SITS ON IT…WHY R U IGNORING MILLIONS OF GOOD THINGS A.K.D.N IS DOING SCHOOL,HOMES,HEALTH,EDUCATION ETC TRUE TEACHING OF ISLAM..AND GOOD THING ABT ISMILISM

ISLAM MEAN SALAMATI..RIGHT..

BUT YOU DON’T EVEN FIND SALAMATI IN UR OWN MOSQUE SUNNI AL-LEGATE\HURT\MALICE SHIA N VICE VERSA..HAVE U EVA HEART NY BLAST IN OUR MOSQUE`JK OR US SAYING BAD ABT ANY1..

[sapnathereal]

@venkyhyundai He said dont wash ur hand at all (that phrase is funny man) we ismaili take shower before we recite DUA and by the way who would not wash their hand first of all and y would he says that. SIR you need to do research.. By the way the comment ( Don't wash at all) is funny as hell Go get some other subject or topic to fight.

[sadia9044]

ya imam im proud of you.really we are lucky that we have a imam like you.

[mrdumbells]

great voice great GInan

[mrdumbells]

@venkyhyundai ... hey you about that gambling thing.. Allah has also said Trade is like riba but Allah has forbidden riba and allowed trade.......You dont have the right to accuse any one..

[venkyhyundai]

@mrdumbells

Where did Allah say "trade is like riba"?

If ur answer is the quran,it also says the following

"alcohol & gambling is satans handiwork"..but aga khan sells alcohol in his hotels & runs horse for gambling.

In the dua u say "eyaa kanas tayeen"...which means "YOU(Allah) I ask" but after the dua is over u ask bappa by saying "ya noor mowlana shah karim al husayni, tu jumle jamaat ne rozi aap"?....that is asking someone who himself is human and cannot help u.

[venkyhyundai]

TOPIC: Aga khan runs horses for gambling

Islam forbids gambling in any form. Rather, quran calls it "satans handiwork". If the aga khan was the true descendant of the prophet would he be a part of gambling?

There r instances in the hadis that say that the prophet ran horses & the winner got a prize, but the aga khans horses are gambled on by other people not connected to the horses.

I am sure aga khan is rich enough to buy a race course & to run his own horses without the gambling part.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... For your Information, Aga Khan never do gambling on Horse racing, & I gave you reference that Horse Racing was at the time of Hazrat Muhammad P.B.U.H & P.B.U.H like that as well ... how would you justify that then?? & If you still have question in mind that He do not have to participate in any race then ... so question from you .. Gambling is now a days in any sport Cricket, Football etc .. so does the people stop playing all sports ??& I quoted other example long ago as well.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... I believe that its useless to discuss it further with you ... you do not have any strong justification for any of your beliefs. I gave answers to all of your questions and very well justified them and I strongly believe that your mind accepts them but not your heart and that is why you never came back on that nor even you answered them.

My suggestion, if you really want to know about Islam then research, use your Brain, questions yourself and accept the truth. God bless you.

[manankashir]

THIS religion is jews n english sponsered totally...............

[venkyhyundai]

@manankashir

search for "aga khan vacation" on youtube and see what he does in his free time.

Aga khan is a complete phony !!

[meherinayat2]

@venkyhyundai that video is fake. I wonder how come you guys are acting like morons.. Aga KHan is a true friend of humanity.. Pakistanis are so selffish.. selfish.. Aga Khan feeds you.. whenever you face problems Aga Khan is the first person who helps you and His organizations are standing to help. Now just stop it.. and if you really want to know about Aga Khan you should consult the books. His Highness the Aga Khan is the direct descemdent of the Holy Prophet through Imam Ali A.S, PEACE

[venkyhyundai]

@meherinayat2

If aga khan is the true friend of humanity, pls answer the following questions

1)y does he have bars in his hotels (serena hotels)?

2)y does he run horses so that people can gamble on them?

3)y does he charge money for different majalis(like naomi,noorani & life)? Do you really think God cares how much money u have?

Are the above traits of the descendants of the prophet?

[meherinayat2]

@venkyhyundai For God sake... Another Ismaili brother has already answered you. you are just pulling our legs. Who said Aga Khan is selling bars in His hotels..?Answer me have you seen Him by your naked eye? ANSWER ME,.. We have our own tariqah and who are you to interfere in our tariqah.. One should have a sense of respect for others,,, but no you guys don't respect others. Hazir Imam(AS) is the true leader. Don't forget that he represents the whole muslims in the world..

[meherinayat2]

@venkyhyundai I am sorry brother. I really don;t like all this. You people just show yourself as muslims.. Don't pretend that you are muslims.. show it by your actions and deeds.. Keeping shalwar up is not Islam and keeping long beard is not Islam.. Islam is the religion of PEACE and our Hazir Imam promotes peace and he has brought the world together through his philonthropy and services not only for His jamat but for the whole humanity. I will not aprreciate your reply.. don't reply me.. AOA

[slaman75]

@venkyhyundai Why does it matter? Religion isn't something to be imposed on others, especially if they hold different values or beliefs. If you do not drink or gamble, why would you prevent others from doing it? Free will above all.

[venkyhyundai]

@slaman75

Then why are the world judicaries implementing thier values on criminals? they have the free will to plunder people, should we let them?

I also have the free will to criticize the aga khan who cheats people claiming to be a descendant of the prophet, when his actions show otherwise.

[sapnathereal]

@venkyhyundai so you think all the videos on You tube are True.. We ismailies don't need stupid fake videos to prove our religion

[MrAfgstyle]

i dont know what she is singing but definatly has the heavenly tone in her voice that makes some people cry. i just hold mine back . and Navroz Mubarak

[zeeshawn15]

Navroz Mubarak to all my Muslim brothers and sisters :)

And Loving greetings to my non Muslim brothers and sisters

[akilammalika]

so beautiful! very touching Ginan ! i literally started shedding :)

[anwarhmya]

How am I lucky in this world that i have IMAM for my guidance.

[slrrls2001]

wow this is kool. looks astagfirullah imam is having fun with nude

[anwarhmya]

@slrrls2001

how fullish are you and bed luck my dear. Aik bat jantay hwe b na jannay walon jaisi. HE IS SPIRITUALLY LEADER OF WHOLE MUSLIMS IN THIS WORLD.

[Sasha76133]

mashallah, wonderful performance thank you for uploading....

[shimshali123]

awesome mind blowing!!!!!!!

[BILAL32SHAMI]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[abdulnabihalari]

This video reminds me of the Quranic Ayat that "Everything is bound to perish except The Face of thy Lord ".and The Prophet's famous Hadith "Looking at the Face of Ali is Ibadat"-

AbdulNabi

[venkyhyundai]

@abdulnabihalari

pls search for "aga khan vacation" on youtube

OR

search for "Aga Kahn, enamorado" on google and see bappas noor at its best!!!

[pithiw]

islam is a religion of peace and harmony.. these are the only peaceful and honourable community, which islam has taught us.. non of us are in peace what islam and Quran has told.. we sunni and shiyas are not accepting them beacause theey are the best node out.. among us... the Ego is our illness.. we cant be a JAHIL

you are the best Agha khanis..

[GPurdah]

Venky....actually when I was in Kabul Serena, they did not serve any alchohol...how come? does the expression "mini bar" only mean alchohol ? which school did your mother send you to? a madrassa in the caves of Tora Bora?

Surely the Pig was created expressing from your Image and that of your minnions who prostitute for you !

Go Home and get lost Kufr

[venkyhyundai]

@GPurdah Go check uganda's kampala serena on serenahotels (dot) com it has the "mist bar". Check pakistans islamabad serena hotel. it has "pool bar". If you doubt this information call them up and ask them.And if they sell alcohol, buy some & keep it for maimaani in naandi, as it would be niyaaz since it is from imaam's organization....lol

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ...

" ARAY LOGON TUMHARA KIA MEI JAANOO MERA ALLAH JAANEY  ARAY MULLAH JANAZA PARH MEI JAANOO MERA ALLAH JAANEY

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79 did you search for "Aga Kahn, enamorado" on google & see the NEWS ARTICLE? . and pls quote which verse number in ya-sin does it say to have an imaam??

[venkyhyundai]

@GPurdah

1) go to serenahotels-dot-com

2 )from the main menu select "Hotels"-- "kenya" -- "Mara serena safari lodge".

3) When you reach that page..near the main image choose "Dinning choices" .......

there you will see wines beers , spirits....

So basically your bappa is an "alcohol seller"

[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

Of course there would be dining choices that would cater to it's guests - these are hotels that appeals to business travellers in east africa. To make a viable hotel you would need to cater to them. These hotels are run by professional managers.

[venkyhyundai]

@ibanezATG

1) So can i run a brothel to cater to guest?

2) So can i run a gay cruise to cater to guest?

where does one draw the line??...or do i draw no line becoz they are paying me money??



[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

No you may not run a brothel because this is plainly illegal in most nations and is based upon human exploitation and suffering.

You are telling me that you cannot see the legal and moral difference between selling a drink that is bottled and distributed legally and prostitution?

[venkyhyundai]

@ibanezATG

There are places like amsterdam that have legal brothels....where women are kept well.

So does that mean we can keep those....to "SERVE GUEST"??

You didnt answer abt gay cruises??

[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

I don't believe your answer is satisfactory. This activity does not respect the dignity of the human body and many nations have outlawed it as damaging to society.

Name me a single reputable international hotel chain (Hyatt Regency, Fairmont, Hilton etc.) that runs this service in their hotels?

[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

As far as gay cruises go, this has nothing to do with the hotel chain in question. Why would they offer such a service? They have not disallowed any person from staying in their hotel based on sexual orientation, or discriminated against guests who are gay. Why would they market an odd fringe type of service to only one group of society based on their sexual orientation, especially in countries where this might not be accepted?

[venkyhyundai]

@ibanezATG

1) what made you decide that "brothel=bad" & "alcohol=good" ??....i dont remember any talika from karim or sultan that says "brothel=bad".And if i use the same excuse "to serve guest"

2) as an ismaili should you open a bar??

3) do you think making people drink respects dignity of human body?

what is your source to make such everyday choices??

[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

I think you have once again selectively misunderstood my point above. I never said that alcohol was good, only that it is bottled and distributed legally.

Regarding opening a bar - when you open a bar are you forcing people to drink there? If other people want to drink or to put alcohol inside their body it is their choice. You are respecting the intellect of people to decide what to put into their own body.

By the way, I'm still waiting for the name of the hotel chain.

[venkyhyundai]

@ibanezATG

1)let me re-phrase .....what made you decide "alcohol selling=good" while "girl selling=bad". the prostitutes in "legal" brothels do it willingly.you will not be forcing anyone.if you dont employ them someone else will.

2)should an ismaili open a bar or a gay cruise?

3)do you think alcohol respects dignity of human body?

4)since you dont discriminate against sexual orientation...would you accept a gay imaam?? or if bappa married a man

[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

"...if you don't employ them someone else will..." So are you trying to justify prostitution? Most of the girls in these types of brothels are being exploited and would not be there if given the choice. Many are brought in from Eastern Europe by human smugglers and are exploited beyond belief. Other girls are forced into it to feed their desperate drug habits. This is the reason prostitution has been outlawed as damaging to society in most countries.

[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

2 - They are free to open whatever business they want as long as it respects the law and the generally accepted rules of civil society

[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

3 - As I have said before, by allowing other people to make their own decisions you are respecting their intellect to decide what to put into their own body. You may choose to abstain, but this should not be forced onto others.

[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

4 - This is a ridiculous question. He is not gay and never will be gay.

By the way, I'm still waiting for the name of the hotel chain.

[venkyhyundai]

@ibanezATG

1 , 2 & 3) ok, how about a strip club?? no forcing.....would ismailism allow that?? its legal in many countries and as you put it "it respects the generally accepted rules of civil society"

4) i thought you are "multi-cultural" ....you should accept a gay imaam.y is the question ridiculous? doesnt the imaam have the right to fall in love?? so what if he falls in love with a man?? I think ismailis should start multi culturalism by having a 2 mukhis "bonded by love".

[ibanezATG]

@venkyhyundai

1 - No it would probably not allow it

2 - Why should anyone accept this? You may not discriminate against someone in civil society but this does not extend to a follower openly embracing this in their religious leader

By the way, I'm still waiting for the name of the hotel chain

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... You Just tell me one thing that, On 1 side there is Imam Hussain & On the Other side there is an Army of Yazeed ?? so whom you will go with ??

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79

I will go with imam hussain the righteous grand-son of the prophet.Now you tell me...

on one side there is aga khan's teachings with his alcohol selling,interest taking,"pay to pray" programs & on the other side is quran , which one will you take?

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai .. Then you are abusing Imam Hussain, Prince Karim Aga khan is a direct blood descendant of Prophet Muhammad. He is Aale-Rasool and Aulad-e-Ali.

I remember you have asked me once about the horse racing ... so I researched on it and at the time of Prophet Muhammad, ON every Friday there was arrangement of Horse Racing and Hazrat Muhammad P.B.U.H gave gifts to the Winners

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... Hazrat Ali A.S was a speaking Quran words by Prophet Muhammad ... and Prophet Muhammad well said as well " I am City of knowledge and Ali is his Door "

Prince Karim Aga Khan having the same Noor and Powers as Hazrat Ali have.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai .. & so you accepts Imam Hussain then it means you follow Shia Muslim religion ?? Correct ??

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai .. I told you hundred times that he do not sell Alcohol. Butttttt

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79

1)u assume he is the descendant of the prophet becoz he claims so.ahmediyyas & boras make the same descendancy claim.All these fake descendants should be judged based on the quran.

2)I think beating oneself like a monkey is wrong..so no I am not shia nor sunni ..I AM MUSLIM

3)I showed u 100 times (serenahotels-dot-com), he has "pool bar" &"mist bar"...lol

4)What book do u refer to when you say prophet had horse races?

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... All of Our Imam Claims the same at their times, in front of whole the World and all Mullahs, scholars etc ... & NONE of you dare to challenge our Imam claims .... In 1916, our 48th Imam Sultan Muhammad shah claims the same in ISLAMIC CONFERENCE in between All the Mullahs, scholars and NONE of them denies it or challenged our Imam. Our Present Imam many times claims the same in Media but no one Dare to challenged him as well.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... Khalifas, Abbasis, etcccc tried to killed our Imam and tried to finish the Imamat but none was succeeded in it. Concern with the Bohras & Shias, they were a part of us but they left half a way and considers others as Imam ... Where there Imam is Now ?? Imamat will remain here till the END.

You better research and then do Argument.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... You Whether accepts it or not but the FACT is FACT that Prince Karim Aga Khan is a direct descendant of Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H ... He is a IMAM of time & you better research on Ismailism with open mind and heart .... You are not force to accept anything so just be in peace Brother.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... & call yourself Muslim ... Is this what Islam taught you to spread a lie, posting a fake Video ?? any DUMB can say that its a Fake Images.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... Seeratul Ibn-e-hisham ... First biography of Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H by Muhammad Ibn e Hisham, A Sunni Scholar ... & This Man collects the Data from the people who were with the Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H and who talked, worked, or touched Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H. He clearly mentioned about Hazrat Ali Imamat & that Hazrat Umar & Abu Bakar accepted it first and later they do not accpet it.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... All the other Books are written on the basis of this Book and Big scholars knows about this Book .. but small Molvis and Mullahs hide the Information from Normal People.

If needed I will also give you the name of the Book by Shibli Noman in which he accepted SOME of the facts about the Hazrat Ali A.S.

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79

u keep on giving me evidence of the khalifahs.Can u prove to me that bappa is in anyway even connected? The only way to see if a person is a good man is to see him in the light of the quran.

based on the quran following are my conclusions

1)aga khan sells alcohol

2)aga khan builds banks that take interest.

3)aga khan runs horse for gambling

4)aga khan charges money for prayers..does Allah accept prayers only of the rich?

i didnt want to lie to myself hence i left ismailism

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai .. Man you are simply Arguing, not looking at the facts. In this Case its Hard to make you Understand Brother. & you are really Unlucky

First of all tell me Bappa ever asked you personally to give money or anything ?? Did ever any of Jamat leader asked you for Money ?? Didn't they denied to give you Dua and all ?? Did they ever ??

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai .. Brother, Money is not actually part of ISMAILISM ... Money is now a days priority for everyone & all of us are behind the money & our concept is Money is not important to us on our Imam and All of our Body, Soul & Wealth belongs to Bappa and we devote all of it to our Imam. FORGET about Money, If Imam wants our lives we will happily sacrifice

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... Now I share 3 Incidents with & I hope this would be Good enough for you to open your eyes.

1- 1960s, Africa Crisis when asked to leave all Asians and Just let them leave with 3 clothes, thats it. Hazir Imam sent 100s f chartered planes to carry Ismailies from Africa and settled the in Canada. even they carry out some Non -Ismailies from there

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai .. 2- Afghanistan War -- 100 thousands of Ismailies been affected, His Highness manage to settle them in Pakistan. Manage Food, shelter and clothes for them. Manage for their rehabilitation, Jobs, Education, Health etc ...

3- Flood 2010 in Pakistan -- Ismailies also affected by the flood recently in rural areas of Pakistan .. Bappa manages to have Food, and Shelter for them, On the Other side you better aware of the situation of other afftected Non-Ismailies people in Pakistan

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ..These are just 3 of many of examples of what Bappa did for IsmailiJamat & Muslim Ummah. You Just give me only 1 example of any of the leader like this ? Did Bappa ask them to pay for it or any compensation?

Now Connection of Bappa with Maula Ali Family, If you are an ex Ismaili then you must know the Family Tree of Bappa? NOW YOU PROOF ME if that Family tree is not correct ?

I tell you the events When our Imam in front of Whole world claims that and NO ONE dare to challenge it.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... Aga Khan do not sell Alcohol, Concern with the Bank and Interest first research Islam on interest .. There are FATWAS of Many Mullahs & Molvis about the Banking system.

I clearly answered about your question on Horse racing ... DID you go to any MUFTI Sahab and ask them about that Book I gave you last??

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79

reply above!!

[sadia9044]

@venkyhyundai ,if u don;t know abt something than u shut up ur dirty mouth ok.

[venkyhyundai]

@sadia9044

to prove that he is "noorani". pls answer qts below

1)y does he have bars in his hotels (serena hotels)?

2)y does he run horses so that people can gamble on them?

3)y does he build banks that take interest.

4)y does he charge money for different majalis(like naomi,noorani & life)? Do you really think God cares how much money u have?

5)y does he not have any "quranic education" course in any of his schools

Are the above traits of the descendants of the prophet?

[PEACEisISLAM313]

@venkyhyundai

BROTHER IF U WERE A RATIONAL MUSLIM IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PLEASURE 2 ANSWER U BUT...SADLY R NOT INTERESTED IN ASWERS U JUS WANNA PROVE UR POINT N HURT US ..N THIS IS NOT A ACTION OF TRUE MUSLIM..IF U WANNA KNOW ABT OUR FAITH MOST WELCOME....

Y R U IGNORING MILLIONS OF GOOD THINGS ABT ISMILIISM V R MOST PEACE LOVING PPL...PPL FEEL SAVE IN OUR AREAS N JK..(TRUE MEANING OF ISLAM-SLAMATI)

U CALL UR SELF MUSLIM..YET NO SALAMATI IN UR WORDS 4 OTHER MUSMILMS...WAT KIND OF MUSLIM R U...??

[sammughal79]

Undoubtedly Prince Karim Aga khan is a true Imam and decedent of Prophet Mohammad. He is from Aale Rasool and Aulaad-e Ali. you better look for the books on the history of Ismali muslims and Imamat.

Concern with the Mourning. Why should we mourn when our Imam is alive and with us. For us Maula Ali is still alive and guiding us on worldly and spiritual matters. Soul is same and pure, body is different.

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79 I have a question, aga khan has many hotels under the name "serena group". All of them serve alcohol. Would you let your wife or sister work in these bars as they are imaamat organisation.And would it be considered as seva?

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... Did you ever go to Serena hotel ?? anyone of them ?? I have been there for many times & I never seen any Bar or Alcohol selling there.

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79 go to serena hotel's website, select kabul serena & then select "OUR ROOMS AND SUITES", If you scroll down on the page it says "All our rooms offer....Mini Bar".

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... hahahahahahahahaha do you know what that Bar meanssssss in Room.

Fridge to put juice, peanuts etc ....... hahahahahahahhaha

[salmanjamali98]

@sammughal79

[felinekiller1]

i usually dont comment on these kind of silly videos.. but the title compelled me to.

ismailis are not SHIA. dunno bout if they are muslims. cause shia's follow Imam Jaffer Sadiq a.s. who is the true and pure progeny of Hazrat Muhammad s.a.w.w.

imam has to be pure where as these Agha Khanis are not pure. and Muslims are awaiting Imam Mehdi a.s. all muslims are. so this agha khan cant be the true imam who will fight Dajjal.

p.s. if you are a true shia(ismalia) then mourning is a Must for you.

[MehboobFarzi]

great........... love you ya mulaaa..........

[venkyhyundai]

@sammughal79 Ok, so u say he is the direct descendant of prophet muhammad? wud a direct descendant sell alcohol (in serena group of hotels)? Wud a direct descendant abolish the 5 times prayer as mentioned in the quran and replace it with 2 prayers? wud a direct descendant run horses so that ppl can gamble on them? would a direct descendant build banks to deal in interest?...pls search "aga khan vacation" on youtube and see ...would a direct descendant be so shameless??

[utubegay1]

@venkyhyundai actually in quran it says there are 3 pryers not 5. You are making up bullshit to keep up your arguments. About hotels part..he does not tell people to buy it, if people are stupid to buy it they buy it. Just as your sunni sheiks do in their hotels in uae and saudia. Aga khan vacation is a video by you because you have nothing better to do than hate. You are a typical close minded muslim. Dont you have better things to do like tell your cousins to stop blowing up buildings?

[venkyhyundai]

@utubegay1 1) Quran 30:17 instructs five distinct timings for prayer. 2)So if he sells drugs but does not tell people to buy them does that justify the sale of drugs? 3)I agree that any sheik selling alcohol is sinning , so do you agree aga khan is sinning by selling alcohol? 4)like the video? 5) Most terrorist arise from pakistan, a place whose education is controlled by aga khan, so in my opinion aga khan & his AKDN is the real fitna that creates conflicts in the mind of the youth there.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... Can you please tell that surah name and its translation ??

Also for your information, Unfortunately Pakistan education system is not controlled by Aga khan foundation. Otherwise it won't be that worst as it is now.

& Mashallah none of the terrorists belongs to Ismaili muslim community as they cannot be fooled because of the guidance of their beloved Imam. We are peace loving people and that is why having respect around the globe.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... Again for your Bank concern ... Will you please borrow be 100,000 $ ?? I promise you that I will return it back to you by December 2011.

[sammughal79]

lastly want 2 share this msg posted on this video by Sunni Muslim brother & ulearn somethin form it

Islam needs consolidation,not divide.

I'm a sunni muslim but appreciate wot HH Aga Khan talks about.I may have issues considering him as my Imam, as the Imamof Muslims..but that doesn't mean I doubt his humbleness and all good that he has done in the world. We need people like him to make the world a better placeKeep the differences aside,cherish similarities, the common ground.Love each other

[utubegay1]

@venkyhyundai

1- Salat Al-Fajr (Dawn Prayer)24:58

2- Salat Al-Esha (Night Prayer)24:58

3- Al-Salat Al-Wusta (The Middle Prayer) 2:238.

Where are the other 2??

2) majority of muslims in usa work at gas stations or own them, they sell alcohol there does that mean they all sin? You are a dumb shariati who cannot see past the book. I myself work at a place that sells alcohol, i dont drink, thus i dont sin. There is a difference but if you had a brain you would know.

[utubegay1]

@venkyhyundai And pakistan education is not controlled by aga khan which is why it sucks. And terrorists have no country, show me statistics where they say most terrorists arise from pakistan. And you idiot, terrorists arent born by secular education, they are born by religious education. Because people like you take quran literally and expect 72 virgins in heaven so you start killing. You dont know the meaning of jihad.

[supersitara]

@utubegay1 how many of the 9/11 bombers were from madrassas and how many had western education? research before u answer.

[utubegay1]

@supersitara Does that matter? So if someone hasnt received education does that justify their action of blowing up buildings? Its called common sense, no religion would every say its right to hurt anyone in the name of god. That itself is a sin, and you will never see an ismaili do these things because ismailis have the proper guidance (secular and spiritual) . Im not saying that other muslims dont, 99% of muslims are good its that 1% that gives islam its bad name and defames the inocent relgion

[utubegay1]

@venkyhyundai I am a proof of aga khans education, me and my friends have went to aga khan schools and where are we now? We are attending some of the biggest universities in the usa. Aga khan schools give a chance to people who otherwise have no chance of education. Ignorant morons like you will never fathom his philanthrophy.

[utubegay1]

@venkyhyundai Ismailis are living proof of aga khans greatness, show me an ismaili who has been caught for terrorism or who has beenon the news for bombing or did suicide bombing. You wont find any. Because we a leader who guides us in everyday manner. This is exactly why we are much more successful in both religious and secular life. Our community is united, we dont fight amongst each other. This is true islam, unity and pluralism, show me this in ur sunni community guided by your molvis.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai ... 1- Well I am not sure about the alcohol in Serena Hotels, I have been there couple of time but I haven't seen it.

2- concern with the gambling on horse race .. If people starts betting on different matter like baby brith, say if they start betting that whether it will be a baby boy or baby girl so will you stop giving birth to babies ?? etc etc

3- Now for the prayers, We will be accountable for it on the day of judgment not you. so better look for your self.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai .. 4 - Now as your concern with your Aga khan Vacation videos ... any Stupid & dumb can say that its a fake video ... I am working in software house, you just give me your pictures and I will make a video of you 1000 timesss better than what you try to did ... & I can challenge you that no one can proof it that its fake.

[sammughal79]

@venkyhyundai .. 5- Regarding your concerns with banks ... All of your molvis have different opinions with that, some says its not haram and some says it is. first do little research on it and then come back & Argue as its a very long debate.

Don't Act like a parrot, you say what every you listen ... first do little research on everything, think yourself & then discuss and debate.

[NaveedAly110]

pplz who are bashing ismaili Muslims, if you think that ismailism is not islam than i challange those people that y dont you guys ask Aga Khan personally as the whole muslim world get millions of occassions to ask these simple questions. you know what those people dont have courage or they know the truth already.general people as their own Emaan is on the knife edge are judging other tariqaahs like ismailism as not islam, who gave you the authority to decide who is right and who is wrong.