I have a pushrod v8. My last car had a pushrod hemi 4 cyl.... remember you said "good driver" they dont drive that many corvettes.... i like street racing, where whoever cheats better wins.... no tree... lol
nice camaro! I love seeing a lightly modded ls1 keep up with a terminator, keeps those ford guys in check. those terminators aren't untouchable (unless theres a kenne bell under the hood).
Turbo05gt ... . Really bro? The 05 to present mustangs are one of the biggest mistakes made by ford since mustang II. Bring your pile of shit 05 to tucson az ... ill show your little mustang my tailights. Ill even give your crap hole a head start because your turbo lag so you wont bitch like a ricer
I love Terminators and all... but this shows exactly how fast you can make an LSx ON MOTOR. MS4 (with valvetrain upgrades), headers, and an LS6 intake totals to roughly less than $1000 if you diy. You can pickup an LS1 fbody for at the least $8000. For $9000 you can have a car that outruns a $15,000 car, on motor. Forged/Boosted LSx's are way out of the 4.6's league. The Terminator is just a better starting point for guys that are crazy for boost. Overall, these have their ups/downs. BOTH SICK!
Ok camaros haven't had a 400hp motor either. It's a de-tuned vette motor that barely beats a mustang. Depending on year the gt had 40-160 less hp than the cobra. And it's a different motor. And once they did have 400hp, the mustang made the same power with 1l less. And any camaro before 2010 was garbage. Falls apart around the motor. Interior, exterior, wiring, the cars whole quality just sucked. Any intelligent person would pick a 05-12 mustang over any camaro previous to 2010. Much better qua
@Turbo05gt Ur GAY!!! Haha....It's not a pissing contest!!! It's all about what makes you happy!!! My 01 SS is a beast....I'd never dream about owning anything else Your comment about camaros being junk is just plain out retarded. Mine has 113,000 miles on it and runs and looks as good as it did the day I bought it!!! Don't be a hater!!!
@occamsmike i have an 04 cobra, and i love the 98-02 SS/WS6(i am legally obligated to say the cobra is better though)...LS will make a ton of power w/fairly inexpensive mods. only thing i didn't care for in those cars was the interior. it always seemed kinda cheap. i think the cobra can make more power, but it's gonna cost me a lot more than it would you(cam swap - $2K, sc upgrade -$4K, turbo kit - $6-7K). like pretty much any car, it depends on how deep into your pockets you want to reach.
@Turbo05gt Barely beats a mustang?? My 02 ss on 26' slicks stock right to the paper filter with a m6 ran a 12.90. Name one stock 4.6 NA mustang that does that? Ive had a 90 foxbody with a 2.3 whipple 306 and a "f" cam gt40 heads. And a 01ss with a HPE "s" cam and stage 3 mti heads. Destroyed that mustang As far as the intertior being shit. The dashes are about the only non-quality part inside. Ive owned 6 fbodies and several mustangs. Performance wise...camaro all they way!
@boostedfoxbody90 I was at sac raceway august 02, saw brand new terminator cobra pull 12.60 @112 on his first pass, front swaybar disconnected.
my stock foxbodies with 3.08 and street tires do 13.99-14.5 consistently depending on driver/ 60' (i was in a car club of mostly fox mustangs)
chevys.... garbage. no traction, sound like SHITTT. On the same track, same conditions we'd be hitting low 14's high 13's in stock stangs, and i'm watching c5 corvettes run 15.4 all day
@JustBurn I don't know what you think you saw, but a c5 should run high 12's/low 13's with proper driving, must have been some idiot driver that day. the GM pushrod engine has proved faster than ford until just recently with the new coyote 5.0. my LS1 will run with stangs all the way through 2010 model year and still win with just exhaust and a torque arm/traction bars (high 12's). The pushrod is also still used in the vette and is faster than most import supercars.
@JustBurn i'm sorry but my ls1 ran 12.10's bone stock so you obviously have no idea what your talking about. Please don't be a stupid fanboy. they are both good car and good race BTW
Ford is muscle and chevy is muscle. Why all the fighting? We should be smoking ricers and imports together not fighting about whos car is better :) Ive had Mustangs and other GM's and now have a z28. Cant we all just get along as muscle cars
@rjacksonII08 oh im sorry i forgot mustangs where the fastest cars in the world, and defenetly chevy stoped making camaros because the terminator was coming out, its called competition you dont back down, people started buying more suvs thats what happened and ford kept making mustangs cuz they where cheap. you my friend are a kid and a smart ass dont even bother with me.
@rjacksonII08 math why are you talking about math, all i need is a mild cam without tune to beat a cobra, and please the cobra and the terminator came out long after camaro had stop selling, so they didnt terminate shit and chevy was planning on stoping camaro if it hadnt it would have made a 305 camaro putting out 445 hp naturally aspirated that would have smoked the supercharged cobra that only puts out 390hp, and please stop bringing out the fact that camaro stoped selling its grown old.
@ElVatoVerga ok I will keep it simple for you...a stock 2002 camaro ss can not beat a stock 2003 Cobra unless driver error...period! And Ford has been making SVT Cobras since 1993...and chevy stopped the camaros in 2002...because they knew the Terminator was coming out for 2003...they were smart and knew they couldn't compete with that at the time. The Mustang has never stopped production! So please save the "would have" for your chevy buddies
@rjacksonII08 GM had plans to cancel the Camaro back in the year 1998. They waited till 2002 for the 35th anniversary edition, not because they were afraid of the Cobra.
@rjacksonII08 You sure about that? Chevy would have updated the LS1 pretty soon. An LS2 Camaro would have hung with the Cobra pretty decently, I think.
haha are u kidding me trust me aint no chevy scared of no so called terminator theres countless videos on here one in particular a bone stock camaro ls1 just k&n intake and tune (no headers witch = 20 hp) and it runs side by side with a so called terminator now that is that.. a full bolt on and tune ls1 will pull on a bone stock cobra termi hmmm 8k dollar car smoking a 25k dollar newer supercharged DOHC modular engine rip off ford haha priceless
and for the rate a cobra is going for (25k) you can get a c5 z06 (same year as the cobra) and smoke that pos ford!! now the 1999-2002 cobra i respect all engine power no pussycharger needed but thats beside the point you sir are a faggot ass car hater fuck off not our fault ur precious modded terminator with a dam PULLEY couldnt terminate a ms4 cam ls1 haha fkn pathetic
whats also funny is chevy stopped making the camaro in 2002 and up to this date the mustang gt still cant hang with a ls1 thats fkn pathetic(maybe the new 5.0 keeps up but before that gt's had no chance with a old ass 1998 ls1 haha how pathetic so save it for your fagstang buddys cause we all know rustangs are fkn gay and the terminator got terminated the same year it came out by the same year 03 z06 and they go for same price fagg :)
@lajefadecarebear LOL....I shouldn't even wait my time with you! But....a Mustang is called a pony car...like a camaro and a challenger...all three are in the pony car war together because they all have 4 seats. Now a corvette is not in that category...because it has 2 seats! A 2003 corvette sticker price was what?? And a 2003 Cobra sticker price was about $30,000....and your saying they go for the same price today...right??
@lajefadecarebear then I'd say the person that paid closer to $50,000 for a lame as "supercar" that didn't hold value over time is the one that got ass raped....
@rjacksonII08 Ima Mustang fan.. Had shit loads of em... 5.0's to Sn95's but you cannot BS me. The LS1 aka Chevrolet Gen 3 and 4 LS/Q variants are serious! Camaro sales were down yes...but not because of the Terminators. The real reason the Camaro got killed is because of piss poor management. GM bail out ring a bell?? Take a look at whats out now. The Camaro ZL1 is a fucken force to be reckoned with. PS. A whipple or KB would have decimated this Camaro.
@TunedPortZ28 I agree Government Motors did a piss poor job and they should have came better...but instead they folded! Over the years Ford has put out a few lame models but never stopped production tho...just work hard to give your loyal consumers a better product is what I think gm should had done....come on I need someone to check my brake lights for me...lol ;) Your right tho they should have put a KB on the 580hp zl1 because the 2013 GT500 has 650hp stock.
@rjacksonII08 You sir are one ignorant MOFO. You mean to tell everyone that Chevy quit making the Camaro because the 03-04 Cobra was being produced? I own a cobra you can check my videos so I am not bias but FYI you sir are a dumbass.
@Rookie77328 Sorry but you are the naive dumbass! You think these massive companies don't keep an eye on what each other are doing??? Of course gm(Government Motors) isn't going to hold a press conference and tell America that they can't compete with the Cobra...its like politics...they told gm owners what they wanted to hear so they wouldn't lose business. You should learn to read between the lines a bit....
@rjacksonII08 How old are you? LOL So why did Ford continue to make the Mustang once the Camaro returned since Ford got their ass handed to them by GM in every aspect with the 3v? Despite rather or not your a die hard Ford fan the fact is the LS series motor is a bad mofo. Please show me one N/A motor Ford has made making 400+ hp? Hell Ford barely broke 400 hp with a suprecharger.
The ls series motors were monsters! I just think gm should have came better in 2003 but instead they fold. You are right and I agree when the camaro came back they came back hard and smashed the 3v! See I can give respect when respect is do...but did Ford fold up the Mustang?? No they came right back with the Coyote 5.0 n/a 412hp for the win
@Rookie77328 the 2000 Cobra R had 385hp N/A, the new 5.0 makes 412 N/A, if Ford wanted to they could make a N/A Motor capable of producing over 400hp easily, they choose to supercharge them so what? IT WORKS!
@rjacksonII08 im sure youford guys know that in the 90 the camaro 305/5.0 and the camaro 350/5.7 had almost identical hp with the 350 having a lil more torque but top end gave way to the 305 for being able to spin faster. and i dont want to go into details. your the funny one owning a super charged mustang doesnt make you better than anybody.
@ElVatoVerga So I guess you are proving my point then....then I hope you chevy guys paid the same price for 5.0 and 5.7...sounds like a rip off to me! My 5.0 never lost to a chevy 5.0...ever! But I have won against and lost to a chevy 5.7...but by maybe a car length at most. But when I race my brother...my Ford 5.0 vs his Ford 5.8 it's not even close...he gets the win light everytime! I guess chevy has a problem with math...thanks for the explanation!
Damn why put your face on a video where your doing something illegal..I heard cops go on youtube and if they see license plates or faces they can get you...freakin govt..open race tracks where people can race..
I'm sure you chevy guys didn't mind or have a problem in the 90's racing all motor 5.7s vs all motor 5.0s and 4.6s??? I'm sure you chevy guys were all proud of winning your unfair races then...right??? You chevy guys are funny
@rjacksonII08 so having Dual over head cams and 16 more valves breathing are is fare. No , think about the actual power out put not technical specifications of an engine. If its 4.6 liters making 320 at the fly wheel that's every bit of fare going up against a 5.7 liter , that is considered a lot less sophisticated having 320 at the flywheel.
@IDontHateOnCars lol....I understand and agree completely! A stock DOHC 4.6L vs stock OHV 5.7L both all motor both putting out 320 hp is fair. What I was saying earlier was it is unfair in the 90's to equally compare a stock OHV 5.0L vs a stock OHV 5.7L...but it was what it was...then the stock supercharged DOHC came out and terminated all stock pony car wars...but again it was what it was...LOL...but I guess thats just my opinion...
The 03 Cobra is a 4.6L with a supercharger vs a ss 5.7L....so the supercharger is to make up for the difference in displacement. Plus the 4.6L stock bottom end can handle up to like 600-800HP NO PROBLEM! So it gives the Cobras a lot of room in the aftermarket world. Ford made it and called it the Terminator to terminate the camaros and t/as and take them off the map for what....5 years or so???
@rjacksonII08 actually dumbass camaro is a mythlogically creature that eats mustangs. check it out.. I DRIVE A NISSAN SENTRA SE-R SPEC-V TOO both yall dont got shit on my 300+horsewhipe i got videos me pushihgn 140+mph
I don't get why people post in videos "cobra spinned in 2nd gear" LIKE NO FUCKIN SHIT!!!! both cars will spin in 2nd gear this isn't a fwd honda civic wheel hopping
@bigdaddychris21 didnt you read that I dont give a shit about new cars. I own a new 5.0 as well as a 2001 SS and soon to come the ZL1 maro. Was I talking shit on the new ones?No cuz guess what we only have three true muscle cars left which is the camaro,challenger,and mustang and I respect those three okay. And what, do I need to act like I know everything about the maro? Thats y I ask questions
@FordSVT1313 ok how much camaros we have. We got the regular 2010 v6 and the SS. How much mustangs does ford need to make . lets see the boss ,rouge, cobra,mach 1,gt,saleen and what ever else ford has. But im talkin about old cars not the new gay ass plastic shits I dont give a shit from 03 to 12.
Camaro ss=all motor beast!! Cobra = pusy car that needs super charger to beat a camaro. The cobra is like a man that needs to take viagra to last in bed. Lmfao
@zr1vette1 haha thats the stupidest thing ever sead...mach1,s run dead even with super sports and have 1.1L less...even the 2v 4.6 in the gts makes more hp per liter then the ls1..its not fords fault gm thaught the only way to make more power was more cubic inches
@00saleen9244ssscm 1. stock vs stock the mach1 gets walked 2. regardless the ls1 makes more power, considering the bmw's make way more power than both with a lot less cubes 3. the ls1 is still a pushrod motor and it still kills the ohc ford motor. 4. who really cares?
@imserious2187 i agree the cobra sounds sweet but im a ford guy and i give props for that camaro he has a bad little car right there. i honestly hate that body style of the camaro though lol i like the 89's. my dad had an 89 iroc z28 it was a nice ride i loved it. he gave it to my brother. my brother left home at 17 under bad terms my mom sold the iroc and got a new ring xD oh it sucks
@huggie99z28 damn finally another person who sees the light. i hope every one sees your post. i want to see a superchargered ls1 go against a cobra and then see the results or take off the superchrger and run both cars. most people would laugh and say infair but i see it as a way to be on the same page
SS is all motor, with 100 more cubic inches (generalizing) then the cobra. I hate when people talk about engine characteristics, all motor doesn't = better, nor does small motor with boost = better, its all about personal preference.
@JerZeyFiveOh 281 vs 346, That's 65 cubic inches more with 1100 cc's more. Its also long block 4 cam 32 valve vs short block 1 cam 16 valve. Both are my favorite muscle cars(no shit) and make power in there own and completely different ways. That dual over head cam with 32 valves really makes up for its 65 cube disadvantage. Serious business those 4 cam v8's are ,like the 405 horse DOHC 32v 5.7 LT5 C4 ZR1 motor , made 130 more horsepower more than the 1 cam 16 OHV 5.7 lt1.
@IDontHateOnCars There is no law on how to engineer a motor to be best, its all about what its intended purpose what spec its built too. 03 Cobra was built for the Camaro SS F-body car point blank. They both got their strong points and weak points. The only thing we can rely on is who has the most dialed in setup to create the most damage on the street. Who's motor that can efficiently flow enough air, have enough power to overcome their weight, and be clear cut winner.
@JerZeyFiveOh Yeah i agree and it is my number 1 favorite mustang. Here is the thing they lost to the ls1 98,99,00,01,and 02 The mach 1's and bullitt's got very close but they were not faster.6 years later in 03 they sell the Terminator to ''Terminate'' the camaro ended in production in October 01. It took them 6 years for that monster. I remember that Car And Driver episode, ''This Terminates the debates'' Can't believe i found this -- 2003: Ford Mustang SVT Cobra Road Test, check it out
Nice, I had a 92 caddy in high school, also a ton of fun (more like 3 tons of fun). That's some serious abuse going from 100 to 0 in 4 seconds, time to roast some marshmallows over your brakes. What cadillac's have you had? And what do you do Drew? You have too much money to play with lol
I have also been challenged numerous times. Not at the track, i have not taken it there so i do not have 'official' numbers, so to speak. I have gone from a dead stop to 60. Dead stop to 100 and a dead stop to 100 and back to zero. 0-60 in 4.33 seconds. 0-100 in 6.18 seconds and 0-100-0 in 10.12 seconds. The equipment used was the same equipment the military uses to measure the velocity of munitions, police radar, and a person with a simple stop watch.
I'll put my Mercedes Benz S500 up against ANYTHING you kids have. Oh yeah, before you say anything negative about German cars. They're designed and built to last, not fall apart like U.S. built cars. Mine will be like new decades from now, as yours will be recycled into patio furniture.
@drewski4144 Hey gramps, German cars are great if you want smooth and quiet (yea you can pay for them to go fast too)...but you can't beat the fun of beefed up American muscle. I'll enjoy my Cobra patio furniture with my friends, go count your money and quit hating on cars you know you're jealous of.
@TXcobra03 First of all, 29 years old is not grounds to be called gramps. Second, you are right, you can't beat the fun of American muscle. I have owned Ford, GM and Mopar. To tell you the truth, my work truck is a 2008 Ford F-350. I love it. Fords have always treated me right. Third, I am certainly not jealous of cars I do not wish to own. Especially GM. Cadillac is their flagship line and from experience, they just out right suck. For what you get for the $, it"s awful.
@drewski4144 You contradict yourself, "German cars. They're designed and built to last, not fall apart like U.S. built cars." Then you state: "you can't beat the fun of American muscle.,my work truck is a 2008 Ford F-350. I love it. Fords have always treated me right."
So which is it? You know it kills me to see comments from fuckbags like you when I see WAAY more old GM cars on the road than ANY brand, and that includes German AND Japanese cars!
@TXcobra03 I wouldn't call a GT3 RS "smooth" or "quiet", and it's fantastically fun. Not saying Mustangs aren't fun, I own one, but generalizing that German cars are soft, smooth, etc. is just as ignorant as drew calling American cars unreliable patio furniture.
@drewski4144 That's a pretty ignorant and pompous comment. For one, how many 1960s Mercs are left out there? 1950s? 1940s? How about 1914? I would bet that my mustang will be in better shape 30 years from now than your S500. Mainly because in 5 years you will get rid of your S500, and I'll still have my mustang in 30 years because it's a car that I would actually WANT to keep.
@drewski4144 ha...ha...ha... i personally have own a 1997 SL600, so yes it can beat almost anything out there.... on the freeway. but dead stops, corners, your screwed. an no they are not designed to last, not since '94. so shut your mouth and watch a decent race. also if you want ill put my 02 roush stage two or my 69 camaro z28 against your 2.5 ton plus s500
@MrSLPCamaroSS uhh that is the model you dipshit. Its a German vehicle. Sl is the class and the number after its is what engine it has... I.e. sl500 has a 5.0 l v8..... sl600 is the same car just with a 6.0 l v12... get your facts straight before you shit talk.
@MrSLPCamaroSS first learn to spell correctly, also I know Spanish. Second, more specific??? I'm not the one trolling comments about being more specific when a 1997 sl600 can't be any more specific, do a google search, you'll be amazed.
@Texarmageddon you make a valid argument tex, the car is actually over 5000 pounds.... But I have personally beat an 04 cobra 4v supercharged on the freeway, that being said I have no chance at a standstill or in the corners. btw i own a 2002 mustang 4.6l 2v Roush Stage 2, so i know what a 2v mustang can do and its loads slower than a v12 beast on the freeway
@migy8969 now I don''t know my roush stages.... but a 97 v12 probably made no more than 400-500 hp..... factor in a 4.6 2v and if the stage is S/C then you should be close to 400hp or a little more.... i dunno man... tired.. lol
@Texarmageddon the stage 3 roush which is the supercharged one only makes about 340hp and the stock GT only has 260hp. The stangs have never gotten that much HP except for the cobras. And yea the V12 does make a little over 400btw I'm glad to have a debate with an intelligent person on here lol
@migy8969 Looking at the numbers you would have to be on a very long stretch of road for the v12 to make it's presence known. Granted, it does make more power, it weighs over 1,200lbs over the stang. Weight is a crucial factor in racing. As much as people hate little hondas, a 200hp civic usually is a hard battle for a 300-400 stang/ls1/ supra.. Yeah you will catch up in time, but the v12 will be behind for quite some time. Just my personal opinion.
I never said i destroy ls1`s i said i can hang with them and as far as my car being stock im starting to debate it a little more after hanging with a 600 bike ...i know i raced a 1000 but that thing was three times faster than the 600 so i could be wrong maybe the owner before me might of done somthing small it only has 128,000 miles on it..Pulls really strong..ill post more races as the come along....
cobra the best fuck camaros. all ss are equipped wit the ls1 engine so y complain when cobra gets a stock s/c? i know y... cause the ss will get smoked.
ok heres a theory ,,,i have a 97 lt1 six speed and can hang with 99 corvettes and ls1 f bodys its bone stock at the moment ,,i smoke 4.6 2 vavle all day now when a cobra that has a sc on it thinks hes a bad ass cause he beat me ,,,?? now just think what a chevy will do with a sc on it ,,,see all motor fod vs chevy loose they have to add a sc to there slow mustangs to hang or beat the chevys thats the point rite there buy a chevy be happy buy a ford live slow
@alexerstube Dude my 87 GT can keep up and sometimes leave 90's model vettes......and a 5.7 compared to a 4.6 isnt really a race ,but when a chevy guy with a bigger motor loses .....he pulls out the SC excuse ,or If a Cobra beats a vette pple get mad and say "Lets see the cobra beat the vette on the track" ......so theres always an excuse when it comes to losing.....and i have to say Ford Fans do it to
@xgafex Motor trend....03 Cobra is the closest thing you can get to a modern Muscle car....They say different things all the time ,half the shit people argue about .Like 2010 Camaro vs GT ....Chevy fans whined and put it up against a 2010 SS with 100 extra hp ...my point being no race is fair ,its just about who has the faster car and in this case Ford beat chevy
excuses... Mustang slips, Camaro short shifts. You didnt even see it my Dodge Caravan shot by both these cars so fast in race #2. Real cars dont slip or short shift. My Dodge Caravan always grabs the road and never shift out of tune. Minivans for the win.
@MustangBoyz150 listen here little GANGSTA boy with vid up on your channel of your daddy's trashy ass Roush mustang..where's your's at?...u saying Chevy sucks but when your dad pops the trunk of his shitstang he has a custom built in tool box used to fix shit for when it breaks down...and if u was a real car person u would have taken pics of under the hood..but u probally did'nt cause then we would know it's a body kitted GT and prolly not even a real Roush go to my channel and see a real car
@Shredward009 actually it is valid becuz if the mustang wasnt a good pony to have then ford would have stopped producing it..but wada ya know its still in production unlike some brand "C" company that had to stop making TWO of their pony cars..but im glad the camaros back..brings the best out of ford
Dang guys, easy with the hate. Like I said, I'd only been driving this car a short while. I went from a truck and a bike to the car Kinda hard to just pick up a 6 speed and race.
@NAJEE52 just because one was manufactured before the other has nothing to do with it. you are simply retarded for that statement and your arguement is invalid.
You Gm guys kill me with this "all motor" stuff. Ford gives up so much displacement it's not even funny. Their smaller engines run with or past the GM engines.
@airbornbuckeye they dont' run PAST GM engine...yes indeed the new 5.0 makes 412 hp and the new LS3 makes 426..BUT..wich one has more potential?...the larger CI motor always has the most advantage in power to be made in the long run when it comes to modding wich 90% of ppl buying these cars will do...the ONLY time when a V8's CI displacement does'nt matter in my opinion is when it'f forged like the 03-04 cobra's...they had a huge advantage of making mad HP with stock internals
why do they cut off in mid race
bolikes2skate 4 days ago
will you fuckers quit arguing about this mustang vs camaro bullshit? what matters is, neither of these cars are an import
Hellz420 5 days ago
@Hellz420 and none of these are even made anymore. lol so no point in arguing
bulldog190 16 hours ago
I am hooked on the SS exhaust note especially when race three begins. You know it has some heat when its barking like that before its under load.
Mloner1 1 week ago
I have a pushrod v8. My last car had a pushrod hemi 4 cyl.... remember you said "good driver" they dont drive that many corvettes.... i like street racing, where whoever cheats better wins.... no tree... lol
JustBurn 1 week ago
nice camaro! I love seeing a lightly modded ls1 keep up with a terminator, keeps those ford guys in check. those terminators aren't untouchable (unless theres a kenne bell under the hood).
Chris02LS1ss 1 week ago
now those are two well-matched cars/drivers. If only the GT stang were that competitive with the Z28 lol
grenade350 1 week ago
Am i the only one that likes both?
jordtizzle 3 weeks ago
@jordtizzle i like both too dont get the arguing over the brands
gtmuscrat 1 week ago
the doctor said chevy
francisco61261 3 weeks ago
Turbo05gt ... . Really bro? The 05 to present mustangs are one of the biggest mistakes made by ford since mustang II. Bring your pile of shit 05 to tucson az ... ill show your little mustang my tailights. Ill even give your crap hole a head start because your turbo lag so you wont bitch like a ricer
TheVettekiller 3 weeks ago
I love Terminators and all... but this shows exactly how fast you can make an LSx ON MOTOR. MS4 (with valvetrain upgrades), headers, and an LS6 intake totals to roughly less than $1000 if you diy. You can pickup an LS1 fbody for at the least $8000. For $9000 you can have a car that outruns a $15,000 car, on motor. Forged/Boosted LSx's are way out of the 4.6's league. The Terminator is just a better starting point for guys that are crazy for boost. Overall, these have their ups/downs. BOTH SICK!
need2speed94 4 weeks ago
@need2speed94
Windsor pushrod motor is what you need to compare. GM is still using 1950 pushrod block. Ford at least has twin cam on its v8 and v6....
302 for me
JustBurn 2 weeks ago
Ok camaros haven't had a 400hp motor either. It's a de-tuned vette motor that barely beats a mustang. Depending on year the gt had 40-160 less hp than the cobra. And it's a different motor. And once they did have 400hp, the mustang made the same power with 1l less. And any camaro before 2010 was garbage. Falls apart around the motor. Interior, exterior, wiring, the cars whole quality just sucked. Any intelligent person would pick a 05-12 mustang over any camaro previous to 2010. Much better qua
Turbo05gt 1 month ago
@Turbo05gt Ur GAY!!! Haha....It's not a pissing contest!!! It's all about what makes you happy!!! My 01 SS is a beast....I'd never dream about owning anything else Your comment about camaros being junk is just plain out retarded. Mine has 113,000 miles on it and runs and looks as good as it did the day I bought it!!! Don't be a hater!!!
occamsmike 4 weeks ago
@occamsmike i have an 04 cobra, and i love the 98-02 SS/WS6(i am legally obligated to say the cobra is better though)...LS will make a ton of power w/fairly inexpensive mods. only thing i didn't care for in those cars was the interior. it always seemed kinda cheap. i think the cobra can make more power, but it's gonna cost me a lot more than it would you(cam swap - $2K, sc upgrade -$4K, turbo kit - $6-7K). like pretty much any car, it depends on how deep into your pockets you want to reach.
bygtymr 3 weeks ago
@Turbo05gt lol
M6transam 4 weeks ago
@Turbo05gt Barely beats a mustang?? My 02 ss on 26' slicks stock right to the paper filter with a m6 ran a 12.90. Name one stock 4.6 NA mustang that does that? Ive had a 90 foxbody with a 2.3 whipple 306 and a "f" cam gt40 heads. And a 01ss with a HPE "s" cam and stage 3 mti heads. Destroyed that mustang As far as the intertior being shit. The dashes are about the only non-quality part inside. Ive owned 6 fbodies and several mustangs. Performance wise...camaro all they way!
boostedfoxbody90 3 weeks ago 2
@boostedfoxbody90 I was at sac raceway august 02, saw brand new terminator cobra pull 12.60 @112 on his first pass, front swaybar disconnected.
my stock foxbodies with 3.08 and street tires do 13.99-14.5 consistently depending on driver/ 60' (i was in a car club of mostly fox mustangs)
chevys.... garbage. no traction, sound like SHITTT. On the same track, same conditions we'd be hitting low 14's high 13's in stock stangs, and i'm watching c5 corvettes run 15.4 all day
JustBurn 2 weeks ago
@JustBurn BAHHAHAHA you my friend are a fool!!
psykho15 1 week ago
@JustBurn I don't know what you think you saw, but a c5 should run high 12's/low 13's with proper driving, must have been some idiot driver that day. the GM pushrod engine has proved faster than ford until just recently with the new coyote 5.0. my LS1 will run with stangs all the way through 2010 model year and still win with just exhaust and a torque arm/traction bars (high 12's). The pushrod is also still used in the vette and is faster than most import supercars.
Chris02LS1ss 1 week ago
@JustBurn i'm sorry but my ls1 ran 12.10's bone stock so you obviously have no idea what your talking about. Please don't be a stupid fanboy. they are both good car and good race BTW
BocaChevy 5 days ago
@BocaChevy shit typo- not 12.10's 12.90's sorry
BocaChevy 5 days ago
@boostedfoxbody90 thank u!! someone who know somethin 4 a change
psykho15 1 week ago
Ford is muscle and chevy is muscle. Why all the fighting? We should be smoking ricers and imports together not fighting about whos car is better :) Ive had Mustangs and other GM's and now have a z28. Cant we all just get along as muscle cars
str8lucks2000GT 1 month ago
im a mustang man ,but that camaro was a beast
Darkangel4880 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08 oh im sorry i forgot mustangs where the fastest cars in the world, and defenetly chevy stoped making camaros because the terminator was coming out, its called competition you dont back down, people started buying more suvs thats what happened and ford kept making mustangs cuz they where cheap. you my friend are a kid and a smart ass dont even bother with me.
ElVatoVerga 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08 math why are you talking about math, all i need is a mild cam without tune to beat a cobra, and please the cobra and the terminator came out long after camaro had stop selling, so they didnt terminate shit and chevy was planning on stoping camaro if it hadnt it would have made a 305 camaro putting out 445 hp naturally aspirated that would have smoked the supercharged cobra that only puts out 390hp, and please stop bringing out the fact that camaro stoped selling its grown old.
ElVatoVerga 1 month ago
@ElVatoVerga ok I will keep it simple for you...a stock 2002 camaro ss can not beat a stock 2003 Cobra unless driver error...period! And Ford has been making SVT Cobras since 1993...and chevy stopped the camaros in 2002...because they knew the Terminator was coming out for 2003...they were smart and knew they couldn't compete with that at the time. The Mustang has never stopped production! So please save the "would have" for your chevy buddies
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08 GM had plans to cancel the Camaro back in the year 1998. They waited till 2002 for the 35th anniversary edition, not because they were afraid of the Cobra.
Quatermain98526 1 month ago
@Quatermain98526 if that was actually the case...then its a good thing they quit when they did ;)
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08 You sure about that? Chevy would have updated the LS1 pretty soon. An LS2 Camaro would have hung with the Cobra pretty decently, I think.
Quatermain98526 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08
haha are u kidding me trust me aint no chevy scared of no so called terminator theres countless videos on here one in particular a bone stock camaro ls1 just k&n intake and tune (no headers witch = 20 hp) and it runs side by side with a so called terminator now that is that.. a full bolt on and tune ls1 will pull on a bone stock cobra termi hmmm 8k dollar car smoking a 25k dollar newer supercharged DOHC modular engine rip off ford haha priceless
lajefadecarebear 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08
and for the rate a cobra is going for (25k) you can get a c5 z06 (same year as the cobra) and smoke that pos ford!! now the 1999-2002 cobra i respect all engine power no pussycharger needed but thats beside the point you sir are a faggot ass car hater fuck off not our fault ur precious modded terminator with a dam PULLEY couldnt terminate a ms4 cam ls1 haha fkn pathetic
lajefadecarebear 1 month ago
@lajefadecarebear Theres only a 99 and 01 Cobra. No 00 or 02. :)
str8lucks2000GT 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08
whats also funny is chevy stopped making the camaro in 2002 and up to this date the mustang gt still cant hang with a ls1 thats fkn pathetic(maybe the new 5.0 keeps up but before that gt's had no chance with a old ass 1998 ls1 haha how pathetic so save it for your fagstang buddys cause we all know rustangs are fkn gay and the terminator got terminated the same year it came out by the same year 03 z06 and they go for same price fagg :)
lajefadecarebear 1 month ago
@lajefadecarebear LOL....I shouldn't even wait my time with you! But....a Mustang is called a pony car...like a camaro and a challenger...all three are in the pony car war together because they all have 4 seats. Now a corvette is not in that category...because it has 2 seats! A 2003 corvette sticker price was what?? And a 2003 Cobra sticker price was about $30,000....and your saying they go for the same price today...right??
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
@lajefadecarebear then I'd say the person that paid closer to $50,000 for a lame as "supercar" that didn't hold value over time is the one that got ass raped....
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08 Ima Mustang fan.. Had shit loads of em... 5.0's to Sn95's but you cannot BS me. The LS1 aka Chevrolet Gen 3 and 4 LS/Q variants are serious! Camaro sales were down yes...but not because of the Terminators. The real reason the Camaro got killed is because of piss poor management. GM bail out ring a bell?? Take a look at whats out now. The Camaro ZL1 is a fucken force to be reckoned with. PS. A whipple or KB would have decimated this Camaro.
TunedPortZ28 1 month ago
@TunedPortZ28 I agree Government Motors did a piss poor job and they should have came better...but instead they folded! Over the years Ford has put out a few lame models but never stopped production tho...just work hard to give your loyal consumers a better product is what I think gm should had done....come on I need someone to check my brake lights for me...lol ;) Your right tho they should have put a KB on the 580hp zl1 because the 2013 GT500 has 650hp stock.
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08 You sir are one ignorant MOFO. You mean to tell everyone that Chevy quit making the Camaro because the 03-04 Cobra was being produced? I own a cobra you can check my videos so I am not bias but FYI you sir are a dumbass.
Rookie77328 1 month ago
@Rookie77328 Sorry but you are the naive dumbass! You think these massive companies don't keep an eye on what each other are doing??? Of course gm(Government Motors) isn't going to hold a press conference and tell America that they can't compete with the Cobra...its like politics...they told gm owners what they wanted to hear so they wouldn't lose business. You should learn to read between the lines a bit....
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08 How old are you? LOL So why did Ford continue to make the Mustang once the Camaro returned since Ford got their ass handed to them by GM in every aspect with the 3v? Despite rather or not your a die hard Ford fan the fact is the LS series motor is a bad mofo. Please show me one N/A motor Ford has made making 400+ hp? Hell Ford barely broke 400 hp with a suprecharger.
Rookie77328 1 month ago
@Rookie77328 The Coyote 5.0...n/a 412hp........
The ls series motors were monsters! I just think gm should have came better in 2003 but instead they fold. You are right and I agree when the camaro came back they came back hard and smashed the 3v! See I can give respect when respect is do...but did Ford fold up the Mustang?? No they came right back with the Coyote 5.0 n/a 412hp for the win
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
@Rookie77328 the 2000 Cobra R had 385hp N/A, the new 5.0 makes 412 N/A, if Ford wanted to they could make a N/A Motor capable of producing over 400hp easily, they choose to supercharge them so what? IT WORKS!
afgandominator 1 month ago
@rjacksonII08 im sure youford guys know that in the 90 the camaro 305/5.0 and the camaro 350/5.7 had almost identical hp with the 350 having a lil more torque but top end gave way to the 305 for being able to spin faster. and i dont want to go into details. your the funny one owning a super charged mustang doesnt make you better than anybody.
ElVatoVerga 1 month ago
@ElVatoVerga So I guess you are proving my point then....then I hope you chevy guys paid the same price for 5.0 and 5.7...sounds like a rip off to me! My 5.0 never lost to a chevy 5.0...ever! But I have won against and lost to a chevy 5.7...but by maybe a car length at most. But when I race my brother...my Ford 5.0 vs his Ford 5.8 it's not even close...he gets the win light everytime! I guess chevy has a problem with math...thanks for the explanation!
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
LOL AT FAILBRA!
JDYDesigns 1 month ago
Damn why put your face on a video where your doing something illegal..I heard cops go on youtube and if they see license plates or faces they can get you...freakin govt..open race tracks where people can race..
Ikeepitreelz 1 month ago
both can't drive
turbobuick33 2 months ago
I'm sure you chevy guys didn't mind or have a problem in the 90's racing all motor 5.7s vs all motor 5.0s and 4.6s??? I'm sure you chevy guys were all proud of winning your unfair races then...right??? You chevy guys are funny
rjacksonII08 2 months ago
@rjacksonII08 so having Dual over head cams and 16 more valves breathing are is fare. No , think about the actual power out put not technical specifications of an engine. If its 4.6 liters making 320 at the fly wheel that's every bit of fare going up against a 5.7 liter , that is considered a lot less sophisticated having 320 at the flywheel.
IDontHateOnCars 1 month ago
@IDontHateOnCars lol....I understand and agree completely! A stock DOHC 4.6L vs stock OHV 5.7L both all motor both putting out 320 hp is fair. What I was saying earlier was it is unfair in the 90's to equally compare a stock OHV 5.0L vs a stock OHV 5.7L...but it was what it was...then the stock supercharged DOHC came out and terminated all stock pony car wars...but again it was what it was...LOL...but I guess thats just my opinion...
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
The 03 Cobra is a 4.6L with a supercharger vs a ss 5.7L....so the supercharger is to make up for the difference in displacement. Plus the 4.6L stock bottom end can handle up to like 600-800HP NO PROBLEM! So it gives the Cobras a lot of room in the aftermarket world. Ford made it and called it the Terminator to terminate the camaros and t/as and take them off the map for what....5 years or so???
Long live the Terminator!!
rjacksonII08 2 months ago
@rjacksonII08 actually dumbass camaro is a mythlogically creature that eats mustangs. check it out.. I DRIVE A NISSAN SENTRA SE-R SPEC-V TOO both yall dont got shit on my 300+horsewhipe i got videos me pushihgn 140+mph
crdude806 1 month ago
@crdude806 LMAO...just because you put the cap lock on doesn't make your piece of shit any faster!!!! SLAP YOURSELF!
rjacksonII08 1 month ago
I don't get why people post in videos "cobra spinned in 2nd gear" LIKE NO FUCKIN SHIT!!!! both cars will spin in 2nd gear this isn't a fwd honda civic wheel hopping
TheHydrocortisone 2 months ago
@bigdaddychris21 didnt you read that I dont give a shit about new cars. I own a new 5.0 as well as a 2001 SS and soon to come the ZL1 maro. Was I talking shit on the new ones?No cuz guess what we only have three true muscle cars left which is the camaro,challenger,and mustang and I respect those three okay. And what, do I need to act like I know everything about the maro? Thats y I ask questions
zr1vette1 2 months ago
i thought the 03 and o4 cobra's were supercharged? i dont hear one in the vid
WhiteRSCamaro 2 months ago
@FordSVT1313 ok how much camaros we have. We got the regular 2010 v6 and the SS. How much mustangs does ford need to make . lets see the boss ,rouge, cobra,mach 1,gt,saleen and what ever else ford has. But im talkin about old cars not the new gay ass plastic shits I dont give a shit from 03 to 12.
zr1vette1 2 months ago
@blindskater200 exacty how are they goin to last in bed without a hard dick. This is a car vid who cares not a vid on viagra.y u trippin
zr1vette1 2 months ago
@00saleen9244ssscm im talking about cobras not your ugly ass mach1 and even if it was a mach 1 my boy smoked one in his 78 camaro z28
zr1vette1 2 months ago
@LongBeachPits562 346 actually. Its also 1 cam 16 valves vs 4 cams 32 valves. That's a difference.
IDontHateOnCars 2 months ago
Camaro ss=all motor beast!! Cobra = pusy car that needs super charger to beat a camaro. The cobra is like a man that needs to take viagra to last in bed. Lmfao
zr1vette1 2 months ago
@zr1vette1 haha thats the stupidest thing ever sead...mach1,s run dead even with super sports and have 1.1L less...even the 2v 4.6 in the gts makes more hp per liter then the ls1..its not fords fault gm thaught the only way to make more power was more cubic inches
00saleen9244ssscm 2 months ago
@00saleen9244ssscm 1. stock vs stock the mach1 gets walked 2. regardless the ls1 makes more power, considering the bmw's make way more power than both with a lot less cubes 3. the ls1 is still a pushrod motor and it still kills the ohc ford motor. 4. who really cares?
BlackBirdv6 2 months ago
@zr1vette1 Viagra doesn't make you last any longer in bed. It's so you can get your dick hard. Do you not watch the commercials? "For men with ED"
blindskater200 2 months ago
@zr1vette1 lol. kinda funny now a days the mustangs are beating the camaro's
FordSVT1313 2 months ago
bad ass cars here !
Nicecardude100 2 months ago
Good race vid!
yeransian1493 2 months ago
0:32
IDontHateOnCars 3 months ago
just curious....what kind and size wheels are on that ss??
spartangodzz28 3 months ago
i love how cobras NEED THAT SUKKACHARGER....
cmjmkcapbpjhdsatjx 3 months ago
damn thats fucking weak the cobra has a supercharger the camaro is all motor with bolt ons and a cam hahaha chevy rules
bigboy14100 3 months ago
cobra needs better driver
1komander11 4 months ago
That Camaro was stock lmao
lilmark9 4 months ago
@lilmark9 no way.
IDontHateOnCars 4 months ago
im a gm man, but damn a cobra sounds good
imserious2187 4 months ago
@imserious2187 i agree the cobra sounds sweet but im a ford guy and i give props for that camaro he has a bad little car right there. i honestly hate that body style of the camaro though lol i like the 89's. my dad had an 89 iroc z28 it was a nice ride i loved it. he gave it to my brother. my brother left home at 17 under bad terms my mom sold the iroc and got a new ring xD oh it sucks
CountryBoyDak 4 months ago
and someone forget to put maro mods why
Storm7289 4 months ago
come on you can not say a cobra is all motor a camaro ls1 is all motor
huggie99z28 5 months ago 16
@huggie99z28 damn finally another person who sees the light. i hope every one sees your post. i want to see a superchargered ls1 go against a cobra and then see the results or take off the superchrger and run both cars. most people would laugh and say infair but i see it as a way to be on the same page
TheGlorkonox 2 months ago
@huggie99z28 doesnt matter if its all motor or supercharged motor, ITS RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG!
afgandominator 1 month ago
sorry in my opinion those year modle camaros aren't good looking cars. yeah they are fast as hell but just not very appealing
21WHJB21 5 months ago
@21WHJB21
suck one?
dbows2991 5 months ago
SS is all motor, with 100 more cubic inches (generalizing) then the cobra. I hate when people talk about engine characteristics, all motor doesn't = better, nor does small motor with boost = better, its all about personal preference.
JerZeyFiveOh 6 months ago
@JerZeyFiveOh 281 vs 346, That's 65 cubic inches more with 1100 cc's more. Its also long block 4 cam 32 valve vs short block 1 cam 16 valve. Both are my favorite muscle cars(no shit) and make power in there own and completely different ways. That dual over head cam with 32 valves really makes up for its 65 cube disadvantage. Serious business those 4 cam v8's are ,like the 405 horse DOHC 32v 5.7 LT5 C4 ZR1 motor , made 130 more horsepower more than the 1 cam 16 OHV 5.7 lt1.
IDontHateOnCars 5 months ago
@IDontHateOnCars There is no law on how to engineer a motor to be best, its all about what its intended purpose what spec its built too. 03 Cobra was built for the Camaro SS F-body car point blank. They both got their strong points and weak points. The only thing we can rely on is who has the most dialed in setup to create the most damage on the street. Who's motor that can efficiently flow enough air, have enough power to overcome their weight, and be clear cut winner.
JerZeyFiveOh 5 months ago
@JerZeyFiveOh Yeah i agree and it is my number 1 favorite mustang. Here is the thing they lost to the ls1 98,99,00,01,and 02 The mach 1's and bullitt's got very close but they were not faster.6 years later in 03 they sell the Terminator to ''Terminate'' the camaro ended in production in October 01. It took them 6 years for that monster. I remember that Car And Driver episode, ''This Terminates the debates'' Can't believe i found this -- 2003: Ford Mustang SVT Cobra Road Test, check it out
IDontHateOnCars 5 months ago
@IDontHateOnCars also it was boosted for the mustang hence the 2.89 pulley
z28snakeeater 5 months ago
@z28snakeeater I know that
IDontHateOnCars 5 months ago
your camera makes popcorn
417coty 6 months ago
Nice, I had a 92 caddy in high school, also a ton of fun (more like 3 tons of fun). That's some serious abuse going from 100 to 0 in 4 seconds, time to roast some marshmallows over your brakes. What cadillac's have you had? And what do you do Drew? You have too much money to play with lol
TXcobra03 6 months ago
I have also been challenged numerous times. Not at the track, i have not taken it there so i do not have 'official' numbers, so to speak. I have gone from a dead stop to 60. Dead stop to 100 and a dead stop to 100 and back to zero. 0-60 in 4.33 seconds. 0-100 in 6.18 seconds and 0-100-0 in 10.12 seconds. The equipment used was the same equipment the military uses to measure the velocity of munitions, police radar, and a person with a simple stop watch.
drewski4144 6 months ago
@drewski4144 It really doesn't matter what equipment you use, you can't accurately measure 0-any speed. That's why drag racing measures a distance.
Milehighsnake98 6 months ago
I'll put my Mercedes Benz S500 up against ANYTHING you kids have. Oh yeah, before you say anything negative about German cars. They're designed and built to last, not fall apart like U.S. built cars. Mine will be like new decades from now, as yours will be recycled into patio furniture.
drewski4144 6 months ago
@drewski4144 Hey gramps, German cars are great if you want smooth and quiet (yea you can pay for them to go fast too)...but you can't beat the fun of beefed up American muscle. I'll enjoy my Cobra patio furniture with my friends, go count your money and quit hating on cars you know you're jealous of.
TXcobra03 6 months ago
@TXcobra03 First of all, 29 years old is not grounds to be called gramps. Second, you are right, you can't beat the fun of American muscle. I have owned Ford, GM and Mopar. To tell you the truth, my work truck is a 2008 Ford F-350. I love it. Fords have always treated me right. Third, I am certainly not jealous of cars I do not wish to own. Especially GM. Cadillac is their flagship line and from experience, they just out right suck. For what you get for the $, it"s awful.
drewski4144 6 months ago
@drewski4144 You contradict yourself, "German cars. They're designed and built to last, not fall apart like U.S. built cars." Then you state: "you can't beat the fun of American muscle.,my work truck is a 2008 Ford F-350. I love it. Fords have always treated me right."
So which is it? You know it kills me to see comments from fuckbags like you when I see WAAY more old GM cars on the road than ANY brand, and that includes German AND Japanese cars!
GMisurdaddy 5 months ago
@TXcobra03 I wouldn't call a GT3 RS "smooth" or "quiet", and it's fantastically fun. Not saying Mustangs aren't fun, I own one, but generalizing that German cars are soft, smooth, etc. is just as ignorant as drew calling American cars unreliable patio furniture.
Milehighsnake98 6 months ago
@drewski4144 That's a pretty ignorant and pompous comment. For one, how many 1960s Mercs are left out there? 1950s? 1940s? How about 1914? I would bet that my mustang will be in better shape 30 years from now than your S500. Mainly because in 5 years you will get rid of your S500, and I'll still have my mustang in 30 years because it's a car that I would actually WANT to keep.
Milehighsnake98 6 months ago
@drewski4144 ha...ha...ha... i personally have own a 1997 SL600, so yes it can beat almost anything out there.... on the freeway. but dead stops, corners, your screwed. an no they are not designed to last, not since '94. so shut your mouth and watch a decent race. also if you want ill put my 02 roush stage two or my 69 camaro z28 against your 2.5 ton plus s500
migy8969 4 months ago
@migy8969 what the fuck does sl600 mean. can you just say the model of the car. why you gotta talk in cobes just like ricers do.
MrSLPCamaroSS 3 months ago
@MrSLPCamaroSS uhh that is the model you dipshit. Its a German vehicle. Sl is the class and the number after its is what engine it has... I.e. sl500 has a 5.0 l v8..... sl600 is the same car just with a 6.0 l v12... get your facts straight before you shit talk.
migy8969 3 months ago
@migy8969 aaaaaaaaa chinga tu madre i aint talking shit bitch just be more just specify what you say. and fuck you if you reply motherfucker.
MrSLPCamaroSS 3 months ago
@MrSLPCamaroSS first learn to spell correctly, also I know Spanish. Second, more specific??? I'm not the one trolling comments about being more specific when a 1997 sl600 can't be any more specific, do a google search, you'll be amazed.
migy8969 3 months ago
@migy8969 sl600 is close to 5000lbs......i doubt you'll be beating much except for a bone stock (old) 5.0/4.6 2v and i question that...
Texarmageddon 2 months ago
@Texarmageddon you make a valid argument tex, the car is actually over 5000 pounds.... But I have personally beat an 04 cobra 4v supercharged on the freeway, that being said I have no chance at a standstill or in the corners. btw i own a 2002 mustang 4.6l 2v Roush Stage 2, so i know what a 2v mustang can do and its loads slower than a v12 beast on the freeway
migy8969 2 months ago
@migy8969 now I don''t know my roush stages.... but a 97 v12 probably made no more than 400-500 hp..... factor in a 4.6 2v and if the stage is S/C then you should be close to 400hp or a little more.... i dunno man... tired.. lol
Texarmageddon 2 months ago
@Texarmageddon the stage 3 roush which is the supercharged one only makes about 340hp and the stock GT only has 260hp. The stangs have never gotten that much HP except for the cobras. And yea the V12 does make a little over 400btw I'm glad to have a debate with an intelligent person on here lol
migy8969 2 months ago
@migy8969 Looking at the numbers you would have to be on a very long stretch of road for the v12 to make it's presence known. Granted, it does make more power, it weighs over 1,200lbs over the stang. Weight is a crucial factor in racing. As much as people hate little hondas, a 200hp civic usually is a hard battle for a 300-400 stang/ls1/ supra.. Yeah you will catch up in time, but the v12 will be behind for quite some time. Just my personal opinion.
Texarmageddon 2 months ago
mustang driver looks typical and the camaro driver looks typical lol
TheHydrocortisone 7 months ago 27
@TheHydrocortisone they look like theyre both dads cars. lol and dont say you just want one. i have an 89 Z with 500 horses.
MasonJenn 7 months ago
@TheHydrocortisone and that wasnt to you. i just hate hearing people say youre just jealous.
MasonJenn 7 months ago
@TheHydrocortisone true that lol
94riosnake 5 months ago
@TheHydrocortisone yeah the mustang boy looks like a bitch and the camaro guy looks like a man
stevenjazrawi 2 months ago
No replacement for displacement.
thirdlife911 7 months ago
LS's are always so fucking loud....
AnotherBrick909 7 months ago
I never said i destroy ls1`s i said i can hang with them and as far as my car being stock im starting to debate it a little more after hanging with a 600 bike ...i know i raced a 1000 but that thing was three times faster than the 600 so i could be wrong maybe the owner before me might of done somthing small it only has 128,000 miles on it..Pulls really strong..ill post more races as the come along....
alexerstube 7 months ago
justin bieber is driving the cobra thats the problem
CALIRACER69 7 months ago
@CALIRACER69 dude wtf
luvscience44 7 months ago
@CALIRACER69 lol
TheFrankthetankjfpc 7 months ago
not all ss are ls1 tard only the 98-02
canihazdubstep 7 months ago
cobra the best fuck camaros. all ss are equipped wit the ls1 engine so y complain when cobra gets a stock s/c? i know y... cause the ss will get smoked.
CAF420ALLDAY7 7 months ago
@CAF420ALLDAY7 Re phrase that, please. help me better understand
luvscience44 7 months ago
ok heres a theory ,,,i have a 97 lt1 six speed and can hang with 99 corvettes and ls1 f bodys its bone stock at the moment ,,i smoke 4.6 2 vavle all day now when a cobra that has a sc on it thinks hes a bad ass cause he beat me ,,,?? now just think what a chevy will do with a sc on it ,,,see all motor fod vs chevy loose they have to add a sc to there slow mustangs to hang or beat the chevys thats the point rite there buy a chevy be happy buy a ford live slow
alexerstube 7 months ago
@alexerstube theres no way your beating LS1's in a bone stock LT1 lol
94ss06gxp 7 months ago
@alexerstube Dude my 87 GT can keep up and sometimes leave 90's model vettes......and a 5.7 compared to a 4.6 isnt really a race ,but when a chevy guy with a bigger motor loses .....he pulls out the SC excuse ,or If a Cobra beats a vette pple get mad and say "Lets see the cobra beat the vette on the track" ......so theres always an excuse when it comes to losing.....and i have to say Ford Fans do it to
MrMustangFan17 7 months ago
@mustangBoys150 you are the dumbass all 03 cobras are s/c why do you think it says pullied cobra? and learn how to spell retard! ls1 forever son!
c10blazer 7 months ago
motor trend said... cobra is the best daily car an the SS is the best muscle car
xgafex 7 months ago
@xgafex Motor trend....03 Cobra is the closest thing you can get to a modern Muscle car....They say different things all the time ,half the shit people argue about .Like 2010 Camaro vs GT ....Chevy fans whined and put it up against a 2010 SS with 100 extra hp ...my point being no race is fair ,its just about who has the faster car and in this case Ford beat chevy
MrMustangFan17 7 months ago
great race....nuff said
lilmiss2sweet 7 months ago
its a stage 2 there not supercharged idiot learn you pony cars
MustangBoyz150 8 months ago
I didn't hear S/C whine? Exhaust was loud but never heard an S/C??
BlackDeath2626 8 months ago
I didn't know Justin Bieber owned an 03 Cobra.
vfIskullangel 9 months ago
God that camaro sounds gooood
VDZRIDER 9 months ago
I don't hear the blower on the cobra in ANY of the races
Haulass95gt 9 months ago
@Haulass95gt camera's mic is being distored by the wind
adanCOIN 9 months ago
an all motor ss vs a supercharged bitch car. slap a supercharger on that camaro and it would walk him 10x harder than it did here
stevenjazrawi 9 months ago
well i didnt hear any spin on the cobra in the second race sooo lies
faded2blak 10 months ago
LS1 BABY!!!!!!!!! Good vid guys
MrChevyBird 10 months ago
That's right ls power to take the in I have an 00 ws6 that I just got done swaping a 402 stroker in ur Camero is badass
outlawWS6 10 months ago
excuses... Mustang slips, Camaro short shifts. You didnt even see it my Dodge Caravan shot by both these cars so fast in race #2. Real cars dont slip or short shift. My Dodge Caravan always grabs the road and never shift out of tune. Minivans for the win.
Penisbaby101 10 months ago
typical mustang owner....cuts the camera off before the camaro passes him
94riosnake 10 months ago 13
@94riosnake cuz he was driving and videoing right? haha
ethangort 5 months ago
who cares its all about the fun...
MustangGT460 11 months ago
somebody needs to get outta daddy's cobra till they learn how to really get some gears
bowtecharrowbuster 11 months ago
chevy sucks
MustangBoyz150 11 months ago
@MustangBoyz150 listen here little GANGSTA boy with vid up on your channel of your daddy's trashy ass Roush mustang..where's your's at?...u saying Chevy sucks but when your dad pops the trunk of his shitstang he has a custom built in tool box used to fix shit for when it breaks down...and if u was a real car person u would have taken pics of under the hood..but u probally did'nt cause then we would know it's a body kitted GT and prolly not even a real Roush go to my channel and see a real car
ilovechevy1 10 months ago
@Shredward009 actually it is valid becuz if the mustang wasnt a good pony to have then ford would have stopped producing it..but wada ya know its still in production unlike some brand "C" company that had to stop making TWO of their pony cars..but im glad the camaros back..brings the best out of ford
NAJEE52 11 months ago
Deep stage SS. RED LIGHT!! you loose
hotkarl92 11 months ago
Dang guys, easy with the hate. Like I said, I'd only been driving this car a short while. I went from a truck and a bike to the car Kinda hard to just pick up a 6 speed and race.
JASPERSVT 11 months ago
ima blue blood(ford fan) but i have respect for all american muscle an stop hatin on mustangs damn..go make your car faster
NAJEE52 11 months ago
chevy or die u bezzy!!
TheEkbay 11 months ago
@airbornebuckeye r u yalking about gm v6 engines lol
hemiowner105 11 months ago
brother in the cobra needs to take some drivein lessons.
Th3yCaLLM3M0nK3y 11 months ago
The biggest excuse here is that they don't know how to fucking drive.
xDetroitMetalx 11 months ago
Chevy all the way!!!chicks drive slowstangs lol
GodschildJCE 1 year ago
@GodschildJCE Is that why the SS lost?????
MrMustangFan17 11 months ago
@GodschildJCE well those "slowstangs" have been in production or 47 years now..can you say that about the trans am or camaro??
NAJEE52 11 months ago
@NAJEE52 just because one was manufactured before the other has nothing to do with it. you are simply retarded for that statement and your arguement is invalid.
Shredward009 11 months ago
The SS is all motor...Nuff Said. BEAST!!!!
bfreemanz 1 year ago 25
@bfreemanz
You Gm guys kill me with this "all motor" stuff. Ford gives up so much displacement it's not even funny. Their smaller engines run with or past the GM engines.
airbornbuckeye 11 months ago
@airbornbuckeye they dont' run PAST GM engine...yes indeed the new 5.0 makes 412 hp and the new LS3 makes 426..BUT..wich one has more potential?...the larger CI motor always has the most advantage in power to be made in the long run when it comes to modding wich 90% of ppl buying these cars will do...the ONLY time when a V8's CI displacement does'nt matter in my opinion is when it'f forged like the 03-04 cobra's...they had a huge advantage of making mad HP with stock internals
ilovechevy1 9 months ago
@bfreemanz
how about next time you do a run you post your 1/4th.
CallAnAmberLampsLOL1 9 months ago
@bfreemanz yeah well it's 5.7 liter, right? Nothing wrong with putting a 4.6 liter with an SC to even the odds.
BlueonGoldZ 9 months ago
@bfreemanz agreed!
demariojason 9 months ago
@bfreemanz this is true, however it is also 1.1L bigger.. both are still nice cars :)
jh2586 9 months ago