It's obvious that this is a vehicle from "James Bond". He just forgot to change it from "aircraft" to "boat" - notice how it tries to "drive" away in the water? >.>;
What a waste of a beautiful Citation. Thats sad. Why not make a go-around instead of destroying a Citation, endangering your life, and most importantly your passengers lifes.
@CounterCultureLives . . . . maybe he just didn't know all that much about flying airplanes and stuff, . . . because, like, wind can make a difference, . . .
@phillipgaley It's kind of you to be so gracious, but in reality, if the pilot holds a (jet) type rating of any kind, or even a PPL, for that matter, he has enough knowledge to know that you don't land downwind.
I've seen a few downwind landings, but those involved inflight emergencies. This guy never declared any type of emergency.
Oh well, he may have a new business opportunity awaiting him offering "jet-ski" rides!! ;o)
@CounterCultureLives In watching some of the small craft flight crashes—and as easily, cabin cruiser mis-launches—it occurred to me that, for most of those owners, it would not cramp their style too badly if they had to go t'town and simply buy another boat, or as here, another plane, . . . I mean, none of them in the first place bought the craft from the position of wage-slave, say, . . .
@phillipgaley The issues here are not so much financial in nature. That's why God created insurance. ;o) The fundamental issues here are competence and safety. I knew not to land a plane downwind before I received my PPL.
@CounterCultureLives Yeah, carelessness, . . . being able to afford to break your toys—if that happens—is quite an aside; it's just kind of moment's interest, to reflect on the one brief little window of those few who can afford life at the higher price, and then of the growth of a Society where that is possible. I soloed in a Cessna 150, . . . and haven't flown since. The people in the jet here, were very much providentially and unusually spared, . . .
@legoskills1 Hello, my dad knows him, its a private jet and he flies it himself. His a danish billionaire and director of a transmitter company where nasa´s a huge customer because its the only company in the world which sells that technology
@viktoriomatta they got it up, my dad know the man who owns it, were danish ;D but the guy with the plane is a very strange billionaire :S he got rich buy investing in a radio transmitter company which now have gone big and makes those transmitters which Nasa needs for their rockets and its the only company which sells them...sry for my english. He bought a new citation after that which got the letters "WET" on the side xD
mom: go catch us something to eat. People on boat: i've got something big i've got it! i got a plane! mama going to be so proudd :D ftw if this made you smile thumbs uppp
great so these people are in eh one of the emergency services in the US and they stand there and say "wow i think he made it..oh wait where is he?"..then film a fucking documentary about it.
I bet it was still in a reverse thrust setting. Looks like reversers still deployed. Water flamed out engine when went in lake. Computer took over. Engine will not explode due to water ingestion.
For those asking how it started. Most likely the FADEC did a relight. The flames were from the start sequence. At a set Nh computer will introduce the fuel hence the flame and acceleration of engine. What you heard before the flame was the starter spooling it. Fuel introduced and acceleration. If throttles are in the right position the computer will attempt a relight if it senses a flameout. Water was not at a level where it would have shorted any of the engine controls. I bet it was still in
Wonder why the engine freaked out and started goin. Must have been the computer kicking in or malfunctioning for some reason. Autopilot may have somehow still been engaged?...
After doing two minutes internet research, you can find a mention (and a lovely colour photograph) of the Williams FJ33 undergoing a water ingestion test on one of the promotional documents of the Diamond D-Jet, searchable on google as djet_flyer.pdf. Might not be the same aircraft, but it's the same engine. Just in case you're interested, of course.
So he failed to power down after landing with the wind instead of into it and wound up crashing his plane into the drink. Maybe not the brightest pilot in the cockpit, but he did invent the world's first executive jet ski.
@legoskills1 The pilot was the owner of the jet. All he did was lose his insurance deductible. A little research reveals that the the crashed plane (registration "OY-JET") was replaced by another Cessna Citation (registration "OY-WET").
If the pilot had somewhat of a fucking brain he would've gone around and aborted landing, but no, he crashed and didn't even bother to extinguish the engines and cut the fuel flow so it cant fucking explode like it almost did. Fucking idiot should have never got his licence.
@legoskills1 Haha, no one gets demoted with that sort of job. You dont just 'lose rank' or something like that :p THere would have been an investigation from the civil aviation authority, and most likely would lose his job with whicever corporate company he was flying the jet for.
Going long and running off into the water was not the only stupid thing this pilot did. He also didn't follow standard emergency procedure and shut off fuel supply before getting out apparently. Nice. Lucky for them that while they were stranded in a piss poor boat with an engine that wouldn't start, right next to the nacelle of this damn thing while it spooled up, that water didn't get in the turbine and cause it to come apart. They would have been 50ft away from a antipersonnel mine at point.
@PhrynosomaTexas Well said, that is what I was wondering..what on earth did he leave the cockpit for, knowing the plane was at least not sinking, and not shut the engine down? It would have still been showing on his instruments that it was running. Good point about that turbine possible blowing apart. Let alone where the plane could have gone if it kept moving!
@XPLAlN Yeah, you take that chance next to a jet turbine that is spooling up 50ft away from you, getting hotter by the second and sucking in cool water. I won't. Fracturing of the compressor is a real possibility.
@PhrynosomaTexas: Watch the "Rolls Royce Engine Water Ingestion Test" on YT. Hint - it doesn't explode. I know of a fire hose being used to flame out an engine that wouldn't shut down. Many turbines actually pump water to cool down the turbine blades at high power. In none of these case does the engine go off like an "antipersonnel mine". Nor does this one, even when the aircraft first ended up in the drink ingesting loads of it. Dream on.
@XPLAlN CitationJet is not equipped with Rolls Royce so unless you have vid of tests in Williams turbofans it means nothing. There is a reason standards on one product are not automatically accepted for all. And water "injection" through small venturi tubes in a controlled manner is a far cry different than ingestion of copious amounts of an incompressible fluid. Turbines come apart with less FOD than this. You also don't know how much water was ingested when it went in. That is not shown.
@PhrynosomaTexas Considering when being tested, engines are dry cranked on the starter to rid engine of any fuel that has been left in there on a wet crank, I'd say it's likely that water that would've gone in on splashdown would've been evacuated before it fired. You gotta remember until there's enough speed there for compression, there's an open pathway through the whole engine. As for after that true I don't know exactly what tests are done on Williams engines but water ingestion is certain.
@ShokaLion I understand compression. We seem to have different takes. You seem to believe it was shut down and a restart somehow after water was cleared? I believe that the engine was probably never shut down/fuel shut off properly before he exited the a/c, and also that the engine did not ingest very much water on impact since these are mounted high-aft fuselage. I think it was probably at idle when he went into the drink and something mechanical in the cockpit caused spool up, not restart.
@PhrynosomaTexas The engine was definitely not idling throughout that video. You can hear every stage of the startup -after- the passengers have exited. The initial spooling up on the starter beginning at 2:03, fuel ignition at 2:28, idle is reached at about 3:08 at which point the EEC allows the throttle lever (which is presumably left wherever it was set) to have control over the engine, which is where it spools swiftly up to somewhere near full power.
@ShokaLion A few minutes on a search engine revealed NTSB report, which states L throttle was found in idle cutoff, and R throttle was found in idle - stop....so just like I said, it was left at idle.
This also doesn't look like "full power" once it spools up. Care to explain in your version how engine start is accomplished here, when start up requires push of 2 buttons?
@PhrynosomaTexas No idea. Water could be doing any number of things to the electrics in there. I'm just going off what I'm seeing and hearing, that the engine does start up from stop and that I'm sure it's not at idle, for two reasons. 1) When it reaches idle, it doesn't stay there, it goes to a higher setting (whether or not it's full power, irrelevant), and 2) that ignition is accompanied by a burst of flame, a possible symptom of too much fuel, or too high a throttle setting on ignition.
@Phrynosoma I'm not trying to have a competition here of who can be more right than who because that's just silly. But c'mon, if you really are a pilot, you should be able to see easily that it isn't running while those people are getting into the boat, and no engine will suddenly accelerate like that, 30 seconds after ignition unless the throttle is higher than idle. Regarding that report, the controls in the cockpit clearly aren't talking to the engine properly, or it wouldn't have started.
No. The right throttle was found at the 'idle stop', not "in idle - stop". Your misinterpretation of this detail reinforces my suspicion that you are a hobbyist.
Meanwhile can you cite any evidence (that doesn't originate in Hollywood) that a turbine engine will go off like an "antipersonnel mine" when it ingests water?
@PhrynosomaTexas ="I'm a pilot. What is your aviation experience?"=
Irrelevant. I supported my point with some verifiable evidence and even cited a Rolls Royce test. Neither what you claim to be on youtube, nor what you actually are changes that. Nor does my own experience.
The plane didn't seem to be sinking. I'm not a pilot, and I wasn't there. Was it safe to have the engines running? That plane is not a flying boat, nor is it an amphibian. By not shutting down the engines, was the pilot endangering the passengers? I'm not a pilot. I wasn't there. I don't know how deep the water was, but the plane didn't seem to sink very low.
@StephenB58 You usually stop to check on the engines when you're about to drown in a lake ? and I think there must have been an electrical malfunction due to all the water and started itself
@Nucleariasi Bullshit electrical malfunction. Yes, you stop to check on engines after a crash landing into water. Take some flight training other than computer sims and you might know that.
@PhrynosomaTexas Watch the video again, do you hear any engine noise when they are in the water before it starts ? do you think they would still be near the plane if the engine was on from the get go ? and when it started did magic made it rev faster ? or maybe it was fairies...
@Nucleariasi It's obvious you are not a pilot or even an electrician so just STFU before you embarrass yourself further in the eyes of those that are.
@PhrynosomaTexas It's easier to be a decent person and see both sides of the story before raging but I guess that's asking for too much nowadays.
As I said above, why did they started to run away when they heard the engine and not when they were in the water, near it, for like 10 mins ? You can clearly see at the start that the engine is above water and later on when it starts that it's in it.
Let's pretend that it wasn't an electrical problem, but then how it started to rev ?
@Nucleariasi No raging, and there is no "two sides of the story". There are "informed" opinions, and "uninformed opinions". Yours is the latter. You don't know what you are talking about and such people should not interpret what happened. The engines would have to have been at idle, and the fuel supply was not shut off before leaving the a/c as is standard emergency procedure. It's not going to "restart" and turn on fuel supply on it's own because of water!
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the planes engines were put on on because it was scared of SINK RATE SINK RATE SINK RATE SINK RATE, FLOAT UP FLOAT UP FLOAT UP FLOAT UP, im a retard lol..
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Andwrightrocks 1 week ago
Was somebody in there or was it doing it on it's own?
DJCRooK3D 3 weeks ago
It's obvious that this is a vehicle from "James Bond". He just forgot to change it from "aircraft" to "boat" - notice how it tries to "drive" away in the water? >.>;
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He was advised not to land at this airport, the landing strip was too short and it was raining and windy.
therealmcnulty 1 month ago
o.O it restarted omg that is kinda scary i would be running away it i saw that
clawdeenstar 1 month ago
Im not a pilot but not even i wouldnt have landed at that speed and he should easly know what speed he had when he did...
dtiydr 1 month ago in playlist plane
I cant believe what happened you are right woow really oh yes no
H3llHoundd 2 months ago
"You won't believe what happens..."
Um.....besides landing in the water....what happened? Nothing. Video excitement fizzled out just like the engines.
bungalowmo 2 months ago
Proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance!
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zoobow2 2 months ago
That thing should have had skies
macguy44 2 months ago
this guy is crazy.
he takes a incerdible risk.
philippe747300 2 months ago
LMAO looks like GTA San andreas with novice pilot LMAO ))))
stonecoldpes6 3 months ago
"The Difference between MEN and BOYS is the PRICE of their TOYS!" BUT.....NOT IN THIS CASE!
EasternMerchant 3 months ago
Took there time getting away fuck, just put the throttle down and fuck off :L
Danielzke 3 months ago
What a waste of a beautiful Citation. Thats sad. Why not make a go-around instead of destroying a Citation, endangering your life, and most importantly your passengers lifes.
Idaho278 3 months ago
that plain or that pilot was on crack
TheDAMIANMCMANNERS 3 months ago
oh yea.. i came home one day, walk to the bay and saw this.. weirdest thing i have ever encountered in AC.
llx2o1 3 months ago
Bad pilot.
JenniferVillanueva69 3 months ago
Worst pilot ever!! Not even able to shut down the engines after the stupid landing!
SIGMUNPILOT 4 months ago
WHO GAVE THE QUALIFICATION/LICENSE TO THIS STUPID PILOT FIRST HE LANDED IN THE BACK WIND
THEN CRASHED
THEN NOT TURNNING OFF ENGINES
whaT a stupid PiLoT
huzaifa1997 4 months ago
He's no Captain Sully!!
CounterCultureLives 4 months ago
@CounterCultureLives . . . . maybe he just didn't know all that much about flying airplanes and stuff, . . . because, like, wind can make a difference, . . .
phillipgaley 4 months ago
@phillipgaley It's kind of you to be so gracious, but in reality, if the pilot holds a (jet) type rating of any kind, or even a PPL, for that matter, he has enough knowledge to know that you don't land downwind.
I've seen a few downwind landings, but those involved inflight emergencies. This guy never declared any type of emergency.
Oh well, he may have a new business opportunity awaiting him offering "jet-ski" rides!! ;o)
CounterCultureLives 4 months ago
@CounterCultureLives In watching some of the small craft flight crashes—and as easily, cabin cruiser mis-launches—it occurred to me that, for most of those owners, it would not cramp their style too badly if they had to go t'town and simply buy another boat, or as here, another plane, . . . I mean, none of them in the first place bought the craft from the position of wage-slave, say, . . .
phillipgaley 4 months ago
@phillipgaley The issues here are not so much financial in nature. That's why God created insurance. ;o) The fundamental issues here are competence and safety. I knew not to land a plane downwind before I received my PPL.
CounterCultureLives 4 months ago
@CounterCultureLives Yeah, carelessness, . . . being able to afford to break your toys—if that happens—is quite an aside; it's just kind of moment's interest, to reflect on the one brief little window of those few who can afford life at the higher price, and then of the growth of a Society where that is possible. I soloed in a Cessna 150, . . . and haven't flown since. The people in the jet here, were very much providentially and unusually spared, . . .
phillipgaley 4 months ago
i bet the passangers had to clean there pants out
rickeygottheblues 4 months ago
That guy is a crazy son of a bitch.xD
MrAntibubble 4 months ago
Were the engines starting on their own here?
brostraid 4 months ago
landing downwind, wet runway, stupid pilot = disaster ..... remember folks, you get what you pay for
XBoeingCapt 4 months ago
@legoskills1 Hello, my dad knows him, its a private jet and he flies it himself. His a danish billionaire and director of a transmitter company where nasa´s a huge customer because its the only company in the world which sells that technology
Techno9408 4 months ago
Ah 240p we meet again
zachqwaz 5 months ago in playlist zachqwaz's Favorited Videos
@dennyfrontier. LOL
killerforlife100 5 months ago
@ LOL
killerforlife100 5 months ago
shoulda stuck with it...its not hard taking off in the water
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Haha, "OY-JET". How ironic.
WoodstaS 5 months ago
2:03 START SHITTING YOURSELF
lonesoldier33 5 months ago
the little engine that could LOL
dennyfrontier 5 months ago
What happened after that? Didi the plane reach shore? Did it flew out of water? Did it sunk?
viktoriomatta 5 months ago
@viktoriomatta they got it up, my dad know the man who owns it, were danish ;D but the guy with the plane is a very strange billionaire :S he got rich buy investing in a radio transmitter company which now have gone big and makes those transmitters which Nasa needs for their rockets and its the only company which sells them...sry for my english. He bought a new citation after that which got the letters "WET" on the side xD
Techno9408 4 months ago
mom: go catch us something to eat. People on boat: i've got something big i've got it! i got a plane! mama going to be so proudd :D ftw if this made you smile thumbs uppp
TheMynamechad 5 months ago
great so these people are in eh one of the emergency services in the US and they stand there and say "wow i think he made it..oh wait where is he?"..then film a fucking documentary about it.
MrMajidaxel 5 months ago
Ha wtf
TheGamesZilla 5 months ago
Finally, someone on the internet that actually cares about other people. :D
B1Studios 5 months ago
did he had a engine faileure?
nathanfishing3000 5 months ago
@nathanfishing3000 he forgot to cut the fuel
Techno9408 4 months ago
You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll kiss $10 million goodbuy!
fubleduck 5 months ago 3
The Citation that tried to earn a citation...but wouldn't die...!
oceanjockey1000 5 months ago
zenosxr A failure of some sort?
2drewbaker 5 months ago
zenosxr Equiptment failure.
2drewbaker 5 months ago
Wow, cool video!!
fishnwyoman 5 months ago
How the hell do you get to be PIC of that expensive an aircraft and make that beginner of a mistake...
zenosxr 5 months ago
I would have shit my pants if I was that close and the engine started again
gohardorgohome2011 5 months ago
SideDriver. Drive allways.
SidedriverDotCom 5 months ago
A jet-powered boat? Me wants one to go fishing in!
busybillyb33 5 months ago
I bet it was still in a reverse thrust setting. Looks like reversers still deployed. Water flamed out engine when went in lake. Computer took over. Engine will not explode due to water ingestion.
jplumbob 5 months ago
@jplumbob ...But it's moving forwards... how do you explain that... if it's still got the reversers deployed...?!
4crevis 5 months ago
For those asking how it started. Most likely the FADEC did a relight. The flames were from the start sequence. At a set Nh computer will introduce the fuel hence the flame and acceleration of engine. What you heard before the flame was the starter spooling it. Fuel introduced and acceleration. If throttles are in the right position the computer will attempt a relight if it senses a flameout. Water was not at a level where it would have shorted any of the engine controls. I bet it was still in
jplumbob 5 months ago
@jplumbob Only the citation X has FADEC
sonex424 5 months ago
OY CRAP!
ianbo1 6 months ago
boatplane
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Remember kids...NEVER...EVER!!!!! Give up.
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kopellhinex 2 months ago
Built Ford Tough!
Invider24 6 months ago
@ 3:10 LOL!
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macrent2 6 months ago
God dammit mark.
dkbm95 6 months ago
was there a pilot in there
FLABEX224 6 months ago
"The Little Jet That Could"
BrokenRRT 6 months ago 15
@BrokenRRT Little it definitely was! It's cute! :):) hehe
tall32guy 3 months ago
Wonder why the engine freaked out and started goin. Must have been the computer kicking in or malfunctioning for some reason. Autopilot may have somehow still been engaged?...
tall32guy 3 months ago
OY-JET= Oh Why-JET.
HeKickedMyDogz 6 months ago
@HeKickedMyDogz Now it got the letters "WET-JET" he bought another one after that one
Techno9408 4 months ago
I am having a hard time deciding whether he is brilliant, or dumb
MonkeyWarrior881 6 months ago
think there was a recall on the engine lol jk or does this void the warranty
minibikerider1 6 months ago
oh oh thats bad, its called steam duh :)
minibikerider1 6 months ago
Plane: wait for me wait i have engines. Never mind
MrMinecrafthacker 6 months ago
How did the plane land in the water in the 1st place? Overshot the runway?
jjlasne 6 months ago
After doing two minutes internet research, you can find a mention (and a lovely colour photograph) of the Williams FJ33 undergoing a water ingestion test on one of the promotional documents of the Diamond D-Jet, searchable on google as djet_flyer.pdf. Might not be the same aircraft, but it's the same engine. Just in case you're interested, of course.
ShokaLion 6 months ago
@ShokaLion I searched both top listed D-Jet pdf files, and not one picture showing a water ingestion test.
PhrynosomaTexas 6 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas In google "djet_flyer.pdf" Second link, page four, first paragraph picture on the right.
ShokaLion 6 months ago
@ShokaLion None of the Citations used the Williams. All used P&W except the Citation X which uses the full FADEC Rolls Royce
sonex424 5 months ago
So he failed to power down after landing with the wind instead of into it and wound up crashing his plane into the drink. Maybe not the brightest pilot in the cockpit, but he did invent the world's first executive jet ski.
Humods 6 months ago
@legoskills1 The pilot was the owner of the jet. All he did was lose his insurance deductible. A little research reveals that the the crashed plane (registration "OY-JET") was replaced by another Cessna Citation (registration "OY-WET").
zplnfan 6 months ago
Hope the people is ok
CaliPanarica 6 months ago
If the pilot had somewhat of a fucking brain he would've gone around and aborted landing, but no, he crashed and didn't even bother to extinguish the engines and cut the fuel flow so it cant fucking explode like it almost did. Fucking idiot should have never got his licence.
FinalEx3cution 6 months ago
@FinalEx3cution Can't believe he didn't cut the power when he hit the water. I agree ... this could have been way worse than it was.
CELHouston 6 months ago
yeah, plane wanted to save herself
sumitraji 6 months ago
That was friken awesome good video dude
Stephanbrown1987 6 months ago
Water landing.... check, passengers deplane...check, autopilot set for kphl and on....check. OK lets get outta here
skydoc13 6 months ago
Thumbs up if you soo wanted that it comes out of the water.
n1k0lakv 6 months ago
Idiot pilot.
Anoush13 6 months ago
WTF
nathan11able 6 months ago
wow unbelievable! how did it start up again...or was it still running? I'm serious, I don't know planes but an curious. Frkn wild!
68buickwildcat 6 months ago
@legoskills1 Haha, no one gets demoted with that sort of job. You dont just 'lose rank' or something like that :p THere would have been an investigation from the civil aviation authority, and most likely would lose his job with whicever corporate company he was flying the jet for.
jlebesis 7 months ago
Going long and running off into the water was not the only stupid thing this pilot did. He also didn't follow standard emergency procedure and shut off fuel supply before getting out apparently. Nice. Lucky for them that while they were stranded in a piss poor boat with an engine that wouldn't start, right next to the nacelle of this damn thing while it spooled up, that water didn't get in the turbine and cause it to come apart. They would have been 50ft away from a antipersonnel mine at point.
PhrynosomaTexas 7 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas Well said, that is what I was wondering..what on earth did he leave the cockpit for, knowing the plane was at least not sinking, and not shut the engine down? It would have still been showing on his instruments that it was running. Good point about that turbine possible blowing apart. Let alone where the plane could have gone if it kept moving!
jlebesis 7 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexa: in hollywood maybe. In reality it would most likely have simply 'flamed out'.
XPLAlN 6 months ago
@XPLAlN Yeah, you take that chance next to a jet turbine that is spooling up 50ft away from you, getting hotter by the second and sucking in cool water. I won't. Fracturing of the compressor is a real possibility.
PhrynosomaTexas 6 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas: Watch the "Rolls Royce Engine Water Ingestion Test" on YT. Hint - it doesn't explode. I know of a fire hose being used to flame out an engine that wouldn't shut down. Many turbines actually pump water to cool down the turbine blades at high power. In none of these case does the engine go off like an "antipersonnel mine". Nor does this one, even when the aircraft first ended up in the drink ingesting loads of it. Dream on.
XPLAlN 6 months ago
@XPLAlN CitationJet is not equipped with Rolls Royce so unless you have vid of tests in Williams turbofans it means nothing. There is a reason standards on one product are not automatically accepted for all. And water "injection" through small venturi tubes in a controlled manner is a far cry different than ingestion of copious amounts of an incompressible fluid. Turbines come apart with less FOD than this. You also don't know how much water was ingested when it went in. That is not shown.
PhrynosomaTexas 6 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas The Citation X IS equiped with the Rolls. The others used P&W. Not Williams
sonex424 5 months ago
@XPLAlN Lastly, the day you sit in a boat next to it, then I care what you think. I'm a pilot. What is your aviation experience?
PhrynosomaTexas 6 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas Considering when being tested, engines are dry cranked on the starter to rid engine of any fuel that has been left in there on a wet crank, I'd say it's likely that water that would've gone in on splashdown would've been evacuated before it fired. You gotta remember until there's enough speed there for compression, there's an open pathway through the whole engine. As for after that true I don't know exactly what tests are done on Williams engines but water ingestion is certain.
ShokaLion 6 months ago
@ShokaLion I understand compression. We seem to have different takes. You seem to believe it was shut down and a restart somehow after water was cleared? I believe that the engine was probably never shut down/fuel shut off properly before he exited the a/c, and also that the engine did not ingest very much water on impact since these are mounted high-aft fuselage. I think it was probably at idle when he went into the drink and something mechanical in the cockpit caused spool up, not restart.
PhrynosomaTexas 6 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas The engine was definitely not idling throughout that video. You can hear every stage of the startup -after- the passengers have exited. The initial spooling up on the starter beginning at 2:03, fuel ignition at 2:28, idle is reached at about 3:08 at which point the EEC allows the throttle lever (which is presumably left wherever it was set) to have control over the engine, which is where it spools swiftly up to somewhere near full power.
ShokaLion 6 months ago
@ShokaLion A few minutes on a search engine revealed NTSB report, which states L throttle was found in idle cutoff, and R throttle was found in idle - stop....so just like I said, it was left at idle.
ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20050526X00676&ntsbno=NYC05LA085&akey=1
This also doesn't look like "full power" once it spools up. Care to explain in your version how engine start is accomplished here, when start up requires push of 2 buttons?
PhrynosomaTexas 6 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas No idea. Water could be doing any number of things to the electrics in there. I'm just going off what I'm seeing and hearing, that the engine does start up from stop and that I'm sure it's not at idle, for two reasons. 1) When it reaches idle, it doesn't stay there, it goes to a higher setting (whether or not it's full power, irrelevant), and 2) that ignition is accompanied by a burst of flame, a possible symptom of too much fuel, or too high a throttle setting on ignition.
ShokaLion 6 months ago
@Phrynosoma I'm not trying to have a competition here of who can be more right than who because that's just silly. But c'mon, if you really are a pilot, you should be able to see easily that it isn't running while those people are getting into the boat, and no engine will suddenly accelerate like that, 30 seconds after ignition unless the throttle is higher than idle. Regarding that report, the controls in the cockpit clearly aren't talking to the engine properly, or it wouldn't have started.
ShokaLion 6 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas ="R throttle was found in idle - stop"=
No. The right throttle was found at the 'idle stop', not "in idle - stop". Your misinterpretation of this detail reinforces my suspicion that you are a hobbyist.
Meanwhile can you cite any evidence (that doesn't originate in Hollywood) that a turbine engine will go off like an "antipersonnel mine" when it ingests water?
XPLAlN 6 months ago
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Irrelevant. I supported my point with some verifiable evidence and even cited a Rolls Royce test. Neither what you claim to be on youtube, nor what you actually are changes that. Nor does my own experience.
XPLAlN 6 months ago
the plane is like Screw you guys, Im going home!
TheHunterPerson44 7 months ago 23
Didn't do the shut down checks.
kaanxxx 7 months ago
There goes another million dollar jet.. oh well.
LINKROCKZYOU 7 months ago
What people didn't know was that they left a baby in there who thought he would try to fly out
Tman3555 7 months ago
it couldve been cinematic if it flew,.. LOL
8underscore8 7 months ago
if only it was a boeing it would have moved faster
kj4ilk 7 months ago
@kj4ilk or it wouldn't because the engines are under the wings and it's gonna be under the water.
ughpaolo 7 months ago
The plane didn't seem to be sinking. I'm not a pilot, and I wasn't there. Was it safe to have the engines running? That plane is not a flying boat, nor is it an amphibian. By not shutting down the engines, was the pilot endangering the passengers? I'm not a pilot. I wasn't there. I don't know how deep the water was, but the plane didn't seem to sink very low.
StephenB58 7 months ago
@StephenB58 You usually stop to check on the engines when you're about to drown in a lake ? and I think there must have been an electrical malfunction due to all the water and started itself
Nucleariasi 7 months ago
@Nucleariasi Bullshit electrical malfunction. Yes, you stop to check on engines after a crash landing into water. Take some flight training other than computer sims and you might know that.
PhrynosomaTexas 7 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas Watch the video again, do you hear any engine noise when they are in the water before it starts ? do you think they would still be near the plane if the engine was on from the get go ? and when it started did magic made it rev faster ? or maybe it was fairies...
Nucleariasi 7 months ago
@Nucleariasi It's obvious you are not a pilot or even an electrician so just STFU before you embarrass yourself further in the eyes of those that are.
PhrynosomaTexas 7 months ago
@PhrynosomaTexas It's easier to be a decent person and see both sides of the story before raging but I guess that's asking for too much nowadays.
As I said above, why did they started to run away when they heard the engine and not when they were in the water, near it, for like 10 mins ? You can clearly see at the start that the engine is above water and later on when it starts that it's in it.
Let's pretend that it wasn't an electrical problem, but then how it started to rev ?
Nucleariasi 6 months ago
@Nucleariasi No raging, and there is no "two sides of the story". There are "informed" opinions, and "uninformed opinions". Yours is the latter. You don't know what you are talking about and such people should not interpret what happened. The engines would have to have been at idle, and the fuel supply was not shut off before leaving the a/c as is standard emergency procedure. It's not going to "restart" and turn on fuel supply on it's own because of water!
PhrynosomaTexas 6 months ago
just keep swimming..
jeffynine 7 months ago
maybe he forgot to put the flaps down? anyway, kudos to the pilot!
megaflyer99 7 months ago
-I think he made it
- that guy is insane
- nah, i dont think he made it,no he didnt
shadmehr2008 7 months ago
at 2:00 i heard what sounded like a coocou from loz tp?!?!
1997THESSB 7 months ago
I bet that was a good rush.
GroundRatTheLegend 7 months ago
show me the carfax!
IgotGreens101 7 months ago
The plane came in too fast!!! no need for that!!!! The pilot should have reverse thrust immediately after touchdown!!!
anil30395 7 months ago
That guy'll never get to fly again.
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SeekTruthN0w 7 months ago
the planes engines were put on on because it was scared of SINK RATE SINK RATE SINK RATE SINK RATE, FLOAT UP FLOAT UP FLOAT UP FLOAT UP, im a retard lol..
TheMetalChipmunk 7 months ago
right is the water okay?
Sarahboo890 7 months ago
These pilots violated every rule. On top of what the description says they are supposed to cut the engines. I hope they get some jail time
supramanz 7 months ago
@FreakoVFX No, it drowned during the incident.
TheDARIEN54321 7 months ago
amphibious plane!!!!!! daddy can i have one!!!!!!!!11
NewEnglandboy453 7 months ago
The plane is like "I think I can, I think I can, I Think I can...."
tillybeanable 8 months ago
That was R2-D2 trying to get it out of the water, but Luke wasn't there to help
dfurno2003 8 months ago
The plane was like fuck a crane I'm gonna swim out myself.
haxboxproductions 8 months ago 47
"SPLASH" ONE DOUCHEBAG!
WindSplitter1 5 months ago
are you ok??? yeah im fine. NO NOT YOU!! MY PRECIOS PLANE~!!!
15451jake 8 months ago
Okay, who' are those two security people? They sound like Bevis and Butthead!
davlber221 8 months ago
the pilot did it so they save the plane without it sinking..
willisd432 8 months ago
OH- WHY- JET!? WHY are you powering up?
briansmobile1 8 months ago
got to love the auto pilot
chriskglen1 8 months ago
@FreakoVFX LMAO :D
PatateDrogueii 8 months ago
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does anyone else read the tail number as "oy... jet"?
dmpechman 8 months ago
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dmpechman 8 months ago
Starting from 3:13 its a powerfull whaterboat .
usersniedzinslv 8 months ago
insane driving by the pilot: it was so fast even the camera-man lost the plane on the runway and how about we just use planes as boats. Looks fun!!
iUKzDWx 8 months ago
i am not a pro but was he moving fast to land
sertox12345 8 months ago
was that not a airport???
sertox12345 8 months ago
small plane, small plane...
satisfy2000 8 months ago
@FreakoVFX yeah but the smoking jet is fine its all normal.
TheMrkingdomhearts 8 months ago
damn thing!!! terrible:)
harishjohnpaul 8 months ago
that is absolutely hilarious....i was waiting for it to take off out of the water...now that wld have been a video to see..
wildcindy1989 8 months ago
what the f*** very dangerous
vratyaskaliskaya 8 months ago
the jet just wanted to get out of the water... poor fella
Mrwillers82 8 months ago
Why didn't you just run?
XxXBennoXxX 8 months ago
what was this trying to do land at speed and stop on run way? i hope they pulled that plane out of water
studder11 8 months ago in playlist Interesting new video
So what happened to the plane did they let it run out of fuel before entering did it get to close to homes wtf finish the story
bhempy9 8 months ago
THIS IS NOTHING LIKE THE TITANIC WTF???
VkyleV 8 months ago
And this is why shampoo has been banned on aircraft
junkyard355regal 8 months ago
The Little Plane That Could
vibratingstring 8 months ago
I was waiting in suspense for one of those engines to just barely dip the intake into the water and BOOOOOM!!! but no :(
That dude truly is one crazy son of a bitch.
HansomArdvark 8 months ago
"...that guy is one crazy son of a bitch!"
Yuubinhaitatsuin 8 months ago
Normaly, in any situation, the pilot is supposed to shut down the engine before leaving the plane, as well as the fuel tanks!
Guss425 8 months ago
dumbass pilot. you don't try to land when you go this fast you pull up and try again. i'm 15 and i know this.
OreoLivesOn 8 months ago