Warriors - Spartan Vengeance - Part 3 / Οπλιτικό Άγημα ΚΟΡΥΒΑΝΤΕΣ

[legioXequestriis]

Spartan sword blades and spear heads were made from Iron, at least during the time that Sparta was at it's peak power in the 6th-5th century BC. The armor, helmets, shields as well as grips and handles of swords and the butt spikes of spears were made with bronze, but the actually cutting and piercing blades were made of iron because of it's better edge.

[1169Timothy]

@legioXequestriis Actually Iron weaponry only came into use in Sparta and other Greek city states after 350BC.

[1169Timothy]

@legioXequestriis I might be wrong though.

[legioXequestriis]

I've always liked to imagine what it would have been like had there been a Spartan king who hired, or built a colony for, a large number of Scythians to serve as a cavalry arm for the Spartan army. Just imagine, the best infantry of the time combined with the best cavalry from the steppe. A phalanx of men trained and working together from age 7 forming an unbroken wall of shield combined with horsemen who can outrun and outshoot anyone, killing from 400 yds and killing precisely from 200 yds.

[TheParadiseGreek]

why was the blade a steel color, but the handle and hilt bronze?

[50TNCSA]

MOLON LABE E TAN E EPI TAN

[DJEDzTV]

Greetings to our Greek Orthodox brothers! IC XC

From Russia

[TwoJproductions]

2 people dont like death robots

[888HamilkarBarkas888]

i disagree with many things they said in this documentary, but the part about the metal work was very interesting.

[vvzvvvhdhphph]

sparta the best army athens the best navy :D

[lions4life2]

Heroic deeds, yeah we should root for them for trying to enslave people and killing their children. 

[TheBladeEdge]

If you look at the helmet 3:10 from a distance it looks like a penis.

[LoneMyth]

@TheBladeEdge it is a penis that was done on purpose. Penis meant man hood and Alpha male. It mean strength in those time.

[TheBladeEdge]

@LoneMyth Guessed as much. At ancient times, symbolism was used often as means to ward oneself from evil, or even grant strength. Whats funny to me is that we could say that Spartans were real dickheads. :)

[LoneMyth]

@TheBladeEdge Funny you said that I been saying Spartan are dickheads too for years :)

[ShaNagmaImmuru]

Θυμάμαι είχα μιλήσει λίγο με το παλικάρι με το μουσάκι που φτιάχνει πανοπλίες σε μια σύναξη στις Θερμοπύλες ,βλέπαμε τις σπαρτιάτικες μόρες και μου έδειξε την περικεφαλαία του για σύγκριση . καμία σχέση με τις κλασικές ανακριβείς περικεφαλαίες που βρίσκεις στο διαδίκτυο. Φτιάχνει κατά παραγγελία? Πως μπορώ να επικοινωνήσω μαζί του?

[Koryvantes]

@ShaNagmaImmuru

για ιστορικά σωστές ανακατασκευές, επικοινώνησε με τον Δημήτρη Κατσίκη (katsidim@hotmail.com), είναι ο μόνος σοβαρός κατασκευαστής στην Ελλάδα

[ShaNagmaImmuru]

@Koryvantes Πράγματι. Είχα την τύχη να δω την δουλεία του από κοντά. Σας ευχαριστώ. 

[ShaNagmaImmuru]

@Koryvantes Πράγματι. Είχα την τύχη να δω την δουλεία του από κοντά. Σας ευχαριστώ.

[98smileymiley]

This guy needs to let the other people talk! :P

[MIRMIDONAS480bc]

ΕΛΛΑΣ!!!!!!!!! ΡΕ!!!!

[Athrun000]

They wore armor...!?

... then what about showing their impressive 6 packs of abs...!?

[leinad667]

@Athrun000

Unfortunately, not showing off their abs takes second place to not getting stabbed in the gut

[KOstreetpunk]

As far as i recall Spartans didnt believed in armor ...

[notgodsemigod]

@GodOfWar221 ... let alone the Minor Asian Thraecians like Moesians, Phrygians, Pamphlagonians.

What is interesting in the study of Phrygians is that them they apparently migrated from coastal Thrace (east of Macedonia) into Minor Asia in Mycenaean times and from there on they had more contact with Middle Eastern tribes than with post-Mycenaean Greeks who dived into Middle-Ages.

Yet in archaic times, Phrygians spoke a language that was too close to Greek - a huge hint on south Thraecian tribes

[GodOfWar221]

@notgodsemigod Again, I appreciate the time it took for you to respond to my comment. I really appreciate the historical information, I myself am facinated by ancient history especially history involving Rome and Greece. You seem to be very well versed in the histories of Greece, have you studied them long? again I thank you for the information. I'm writing a paper right now for my ancient histories class in college, and this will help a lot! thanks again!

[notgodsemigod]

Πάντως οι Κορύβαντες κάνουν πραγματικά αξιόλογη δουλειά. Μπράβο.

[MrChiropodist]

"like you're facing an army of death robots"!!! That must have been exactly what the poor Persians thought as the Spartan death robots bore down on them. Star Wars 480 BC. What a git!

[lion3p0]

wrong armor was bronze weapons were always iron nevermind i wasnt paying attention to the rest sorry sorry

[lion3p0]

wrong armor was bronze weapons were always iron

[notgodsemigod]

@lion3p0 Not always. Even after the widespread use of iron weaponry, bronze swords and spearheads were common and there are a number of reasons for that. People do not realise that iron's qualities superceded on the whole those of bronze only after the use of the blast furnaces (developed most probably first by Chinese then brought to Europe in late middle ages - note though that Chinese used them for wrough iron and still preferred bronze for their weapons). Prior to that...

[notgodsemigod]

... prior to that, iron weapons came at a VERY variable quality because of the imperfections and residuals in un-melted iron. And it could be almost accidental. You would mass produce 10 swords, the 1 would be excellent, the 3 fairly good, other 2 acceptable and the rest would be so crap that would break on first hit (no kidding here...). And watch out: the secret of fake-steel (you know the japanese treating...) was known since Mycenaean times (eg. we have a Cypriot dagger with steel layers)

[notgodsemigod]

on the other hand bronze had a more predictable quality and there were known procedures to produce ultra hard bronze very close to the hardest bronze types we can produce even today. Hence the alledged difference of pre-blast furnace iron vs.bronze was NOT that big as people in the 19th and early 20th century imagined.

Naturally soldiers felt more comfortable using iron for consumables (i.e. spearheads, arrowheads and swords). For armor, bronze was the most indicated though iron was also in use

[GodOfWar221]

who agrees that the movie Troy doesn't give the Spartans any justice by casting an out of shape guy as the king of Sparta?

[notgodsemigod]

@GodOfWar221 Oh... hollywood is just hollywood, and Troy is really super-hollywood to be part of a serious re-enactment discussion. But anyway, just to point out your suggestion: Sparta mentioned in the poem of Homer was a city dwelled by Achaians or so, i.e. tribes identical to Mycenaeans. The later, well known Spartans, were Dorians, i.e. a branch of the Macedonian-Epirot tribes who descended gradually to south Greece from north Greece conquering a number of cities inbtween 1100 and 900 B.C.

[GodOfWar221]

@notgodsemigod Oh I had no idea the city-state Sparta was made up out of so many different tribes over the years, but it makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. Thanks a lot for the information, I don't really enjoy the movie myself. I mean sure the story of the Illiad is a story of lovers and war, but they added a little more lovers and too little war in that movie, there are many things I would have changed. Anyway, thanks again for the reply, I appreciate the information!

[notgodsemigod]

@GodOfWar221 Yes. We have to keep in mind that Greeks as a nation (and just like any other true nation) were a collection of tribes (certainly relative tribes but then each with its own characteristics). To be noted that in Mycenaean times there were more tribes (other lost other evolved and changing names, changing accents etc.). For example, the Linear B tablets (by now proven ancestor of the Greek alphabet) reveal a 100% Greek dialect but do not point out a link to one of later dialects.

[notgodsemigod]

@GodOfWar221 You could devide Greek tribes into 4 main large groups:

1) The southern ones: Arcadians & Achaians: these are supposed to be the more ancient tribes of Peloponesus (they are those we called Mycenaeans)

2) The eastern ones: Ionians - alledgedly from Peloponesus too but all evidence points the Aegean and Minor Asia coastline where the 95% of their initial centers are found

3) The central ones: Aeolians & Boetians

4) The northern ones: Macedonians-Epirots-Aetolians-­Dorians

[notgodsemigod]

@notgodsemigod ... also, one has to take into account that while these aforementioned tribes constituted the body of the nation of Greeks, from there one, though research is still ongoing there is a huge list of neighbouring tribes that were historically called (first by Greeks themselves) as "barbarians" who really were nothing else than cousin-tribes even speaking cousin-dialects. The biggest example is Thraecians.

[notgodsemigod]

@GodOfWar221 You have to undestand that the term "Thraecian" was used even in ancient times as a bunch-up geographical term than really as a real tribal one. In reality there is absolutely no proof, no linguistic evidence and even no cultural overulling evidence to link up "Thraecian" tribes so diverse as the Dacians north of Danube the Thraecians of the middle range, the Aegean coast Thraecians (like the Agrianes), the Paeonians and Dardanians north of Macedonia and of course ...

[Koryvantes]

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[Cadnica]

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[jasonthemauler]

DEATH ROBOOOTS!!!!

[biggingerdude]

This yank presenter is an absolute ball bag!

[fixdeluxe1]

@biggingerdude Really,because he's an ex-Green Beret.

[koalalumpar]

im sorry but i've seen your previous video and you said you participated?

[ajb7876]

Bronze blades? surely they would have had iron blades by 480 BC?

[xhagast]

@ajb7876 An iron sword cuts through bronze like nothing! Bronze cannot keep an edge and tin was expensive.  The Bronze Age ended with Troy. Nearly a thousand years earlier.

[Heliospathe]

@xhagast

Not even a steal sword can cut through bronze as the show Deadliest warrior showed.

[xhagast]

@Heliospathe Really?

[Heliospathe]

@xhagast

An iron sword can not cut bronze.

[Metallomenos]

Σας δουλεύουνε οι εβραίοι......

Οι θερμοπύλες βρίσκονται στον Ταύγετο ακόμα στα 3μ.

Οι Αθηναίοι τα ξεπούλησαν όλα αφού συνεργάζονταν καιρό εναντίων των Έλλην στην Πελάσγια Νήσο (Πελ/σο)

Μην ακούτε τίποτα....

[dienekes444]

@Metallomenos Ενταξει μας δουλευουν οι εβραιοι , πές μας εσυ να μαθουμε.. Θερμοπύλες στο Ταυγετο...!? Ποιος το λέει , ο Λιακό? Η ο μπαρμπας σου ο ταβερνιαρης?

[Metallomenos]

@dienekes444 ποιος λιακό; ο προδότης;

άσε, ζήσε στην ουτοπία σου....

φιλοσοφία, μαθηματικά, σοφισμός, στοισμός, τεκτονισμός, μου σηκώθηκε η τρίχα....

και όχι ο μπάρμπας μου τα γράφει αυτά και πιστεύει ότι του πλασάρουν οι εβραιομασσόνοι, όπως εσείς!

Εγώ από που τα ξέρω αυτά δε θα καταλάβεις ποτέ....

Έσεται ήμαρ....

[dienekes444]

@Metallomenos Χαχα, Ρε πειραγμενε, ποιοί εβραίοι τα λένε αυτα..? Εχεις ανοιξει ποτε σου Ηρόδοτο να ξεστραβωθείς να διαβασεις για την μαχη των Θερμοπυλών.? Λεει ο Ηροδοτος οτι οι Θερμοπύλες ηταν στην Σπαρτη? Αμφισβητεις τον Ηροδοτο και όλους τους υπόλοιπους ελληνες συγγραφεις..? Αν εχεις στοιχεια συγκεκριμενα που να αναρεπουν τον Ηροδοτο πες τα αλλιώς τράβα να παραμυθιαστεις και να αερολογήσεις με κανεναν του ιδιου επιπέδου με σενα , που θα μιλησεις για ιστορία΄και Ελλαδα...

[Metallomenos]

@dienekes444 εσύ έχεις ανοίξει ποτέ σου Ψευδοκαλλισθένη;

[dienekes444]

@Metallomenos Ακου καραγκιοζακο : , Ηροδοτος , Αππιανος, Δημοσθενης , Ισσοκρατης, Διοδωρος Σικελιώτης, Φιλοστρατος , Νόνος, Πλούταρχος , και καμια εικοσσαρια αλλοι επιφανεις αρχαιοι Συγγραφεις τοποθετουν τις Θερμοπύλες εκει που τις ξερουμε και οχι στον ..Ταϋγετο.. Το εψαξα μεσω του TLG. Ολοι αυτοι ηταν θυματα της εβραϊκης προπαγανδας...και εσυ εισαι ο ξυπνιος.??? Απάντησε συγκεκριμενα.. Πόσο ρομπα μπορεις να γινεις ρε....??? Πόσο..?

[dienekes444]

@Metallomenos Οσον αφορα τον Ψευδο-καλλισθενη, εισαι απλώς ασχετος που συγκρινεις προσωπικοτητες τετοιου μεγεθους με τον Ψευδοκαλλισθενη. Ειναι σαν να συγκρινεις Επιστημονική διατριβη με Καζαμια. Ο Ψευδοκαλλισθενης εχει κανει μια συλογη παραμυθιών και λαϊκων παραδοσεων και αυτο που βγαινει ειναι μυθιστορημα. Αλλωστε γραφτηκε τον 30 αιωνα ΜΕΤΑ ΧΡΙΣΤΟΝ Να σου θυμισω τους εξαποδους ανθρωπους, τους ανθρωπους με τρια ματια και ουρα αρνιου , η βουνα που μιλάνε? Καταλαβες καραγκιοζακο?

[dienekes444]

@Metallomenos Αλλα εστω και ετσι, εστω σαν μυθιστόρημα , σε ενημερωνω οτι βεβαιως και το εψαξα και δεν βρηκα ΚΑΜΙΑ ΑΝΑΦΟΡΑ ΤΟΥ ΛΗΜΑΤΟΣ "ΘΕΡΜΟΠΥΛΕΣ" η συναφών λεξων στα εργα του ΨΕΥΔΟΚΑΛΛΙΣΘΕΝΗ. Ο ψευδοκαλλισθενης δεν αναφερεται καν στις θερμοπύλες.Το TLG ηταν απολθυτως σαφες. Περιμενω λοιπόν μεγαλε μου πατριωτη που ξεσκεπαζεις εμας τους παραπλανημενους ,ΠΟΥ εχεις βρει συγκεκριμενα με παραπομπή τα οσα αναφερει ο Ψευδοκαλλισθενης για τις Θερμοπύλες. Απο εσενα που εχεις ανοιξει ψευδοκαλλισθενη..

[Pilaeus]

@Metallomenos ΠΟΥ ΤΟ ΒΑΣΙΖΕΤΑΙ ΑΥΤΟ ΠΟΥ ΛΕΤΕ ; ΔΩΣΤΕ ΜΟΥ ΣΤΟΙΧΕΙΑ ΠΑΡΑΓΡ. ΙΣΤΟΡΙΚΟ. ΚΤΛ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΣΑΣ ΑΠΑΝΤΗΣΩ.

[mysterion1994]

@Metallomenos καλα ρε φιλε τα πιστευεις αυτα που λες?για ονομα του θεου θα σηκωθουν οι σπαρτιατες απο τους ταφους τους και θα σε παρουν στο κυνηγι..οι θερμοπυλες ηταν,ειναι και ΘΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ εκει που ολοι γνωριζουν.και οι αθηναιοι που πολεμησαν στον μαραθωνα και πεταξαν τους περσες στη θαλασσα ειναι προδοτες?τι θα μας πεις μετα ρε παλικαρι??οτι πολεμουσαν με λειζερ??ποιος τους γαμαει τους εβραιους?εδω μιλαμε για ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ που τα ανεφεραν αυτα.λιγο ντροπη για την ιστορια το λαου αν εισαι ελληνας δηλαδη.

[qwerty2008007]

τρομερα ΟΛΑ τα βιντεο παιδια!!! Μπραβο σας!!!!

[recoveryprankcalls]

dammmmmm i love the greek helmets. i wish i had one like this

[cyanidepill1]

the plume really helps if it's an officer in front of you, their plume goes sidewards

[sisman]

Ηφαιστ' οβρυμόθιμε,μεγασθενές,ακάματον πύρ,

λαμπόμενε φλογέαις αυγαίς φαεσίμβροτε δαίμον...

[Guacamole4sho]

AWWW MAN THAT DIRT LOOKS LIKE CHOCOLATE CAKE!!!

[legendkiller4g]

άδια Αθήνα βρίκαν οι Πέ

ρσες

[romulus310]

plz speak english

[ZzdeathangelzZ]

@romulus310

[ZzdeathangelzZ]

@romulus310

Learn Greek

[PompeusMagnus]

@romulus310 Dude they don't need to speak in english this is greek history, a greek guy posted this video... So it's more then understandable that they'll speak greek...

[antoniostarlizos]

@romulus310 translate.google.gr ;-)

or... learn Greek, it's a sick language!

[scylaros]

@shredingman123 lol yes. if thats what u want to see lololol

[ARIADNEANGEL2]

ΣΥΓΧΑΡΗΤΗΡΙΑ ΚΟΡΥΒΑΝΤΕΣ!!! ΑΘΑΝΑΤΟΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ ΗΡΩΕΣ!!! ΤΟΥΣ ΤΙΜΟΥΝ ΣΕ ΟΛΟΚΛΗΡΟ ΤΟΝ ΚΟΣΜΟ ΕΚΤΟΣ ΑΠΟ ΤΟ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΟ ΚΡΑΤΟΣ!! ΑΣ ΞΥΠΝΗΣΟΥΝ ΚΙ ΑΣ ΔΟΥΝ ΟΤΙ Η ΑΝΔΡΕΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΘΑΡΡΟΣ ΓΕΝΝΗΘΗΚΕ ΣΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ!!!!