Sunlight, Vitamin D & Cancer

[jasminerenn]

cool video .. thanks for posting .. keep it up =) 

[leahcimrac]

Sungazing eliminates cancer. Follow HRM's techniques and you'll be fine.

[shreivox]

most of the sun hysteria might have been developed of the medicine industry . People live under the sun since the beginning of mankind...

[WakeUpSleepIsDeath]

youtube "cancer is a fungus" (curable with sodium hydrogen carbonate)

[Masterchief571]

How do you prevent pancreatic cancer

[danmarino1970]

@Masterchief571 the pancreas is a dual stage organ.. it aids in the body's digestion and helps produce indsulin.. smoking and drinking are big NO NO's and should be avoided.. and yes chewing tabacco too. read the books (website) that i have referred you to they will help you trmendously.

[Masterchief571]

@TranshumanCyborg What are the most preventable cancers

[danmarino1970]

@Masterchief571 We all have precancer cells in our bodies. We all create free radicals in our bodies when we are stressed, eat an unhealthy diet, drink alcohol, smoke, live sedentary lifestyles. Although we all must strive to achieve opt health through heatlhy diets,supplements and exercise..even the healthiest sometimes fall victim to cancer (the healthier the easier to fight it). I would say in addition..stay away from headphones, CPU, and all electrical equip.. (outlets)..as much as possible

[danmarino1970]

why do people with severe arthritis, osteoporosis told to move much of the time to warm climate states Arizona, California, Florida etc? not to hard to figure out.. but the doctors won't tell you.. they'll just tell you its GOOD for ya.

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[TheKrista1980]

OH THANK GOODNESS! Someone who actually knows that they're talking about! It should be common sense! We've evolved under the sun...it's the source of life on earth !

[danmarino1970]

What people need to know is that total body exposure is the best form of acquiring the benefits of vitamin d3.  If on a sunny day you cover your torso, or at least 50% of your body with clothing or "sunblock" you are not reaping the benefits. (FYI) sunblock contains aluminum (very toxic) and does not let in UVB (good rays). Supplement in the summer as well.

[Theroguesunit6]

can the sun prevent testicular cancer

[danmarino1970]

@Theroguesunit6 vitamin d3 can help prevent about 16-20 known cancers.. to name a few.. colon, lung, some brain cancers etc. if you ask any onventional doctor they'll tell you to get off of the supplemental vitamin d3 if he/she thinks its too high. the truth is.. they want you to come back to their office. fact 2 hours of 70% body exposure (no sunblock) to the sun produces anywhere from 20 to 50,000 iu's of vit d3

[Theroguesunit6]

so it does not prevent testicular cancer?

[danmarino1970]

@Theroguesunit6 don't have that info bro. but my suggestion if you know a loved one or yourself is to look into high dose intravenous vitamin c 25 100g. look into max gerson or linus pauling regarding the same. be well.

[Theroguesunit6]

this is the only cancer I'm having trouble finding information for

[danmarino1970]

@Theroguesunit6 go to cancertutor . com stay off the sugar or use very little.. cancer cells thrive on fermentation (def no artificial sweetners) get a juicer and juice anything green use carrot and apples to sweeten (leave the seed in the apples they contain vitamin b17 (cancer killer) this is found in almost all berries... also try to alkalyze your body with baking soda and water (add lemon for flavor) Dr. T Simoncini MD Rome, Italy. be well.

[Theroguesunit6]

only a few sites sites said testicular cancer is preventable

[danmarino1970]

@Theroguesunit6 luckily enough testicular cancer is very treatable like skin cancer... so much so that even conventional medicine has a high rate of cure.

[Theroguesunit6]

i know the signs and symptoms but and the cure rate i just don't know the prevention

[danmarino1970]

@Theroguesunit6 eat well, drink lots of water (no soda), supplement and exercise.. nature will do the rest little bro. no worries.

[Masterchief571]

@danmarino1970 What are the most common cancers

[danmarino1970]

@Masterchief571 ...skin cancer by far. but i can recommend you a website for starters cancertutor . com also google intravenous vitamin C. as a cancer treatment and precaution my suggestion after 30 would be to do a 5 step cleanse (Cancer :think outside the box - Ty Bollinger) hydro colon cleanse, kidney, liver, parasites stomach (1 in every 4 Americans have them) and finally blood (heavy metals) i'd recommend once a year or at least every 2 years. also Dr. Max Gerson be well.

[Masterchief571]

@danmarino1970 I eat healthy

[Masterchief571]

@danmarino1970 how comment is skin cancer

[Masterchief571]

@danmarino1970 Sorry I meant common

[danmarino1970]

@Masterchief571 no worries little bro. fairly common especially if you are fair skin and do not expose yourself to direct sunlight.. (ie. sweden, norway etc) however it is very curable.. even in late stages. we need sunlight for the benefits that only the sun can give (vitamin d3).. but if you live in a tropical - sub tropical area and are fair complexion i would go 30 minutes without sunblock then sunblock the rest of the day re-applying every 2 hrs.

[Masterchief571]

@danmarino1970 I won

t worry

[Theroguesunit6]

Thanks but I'm trying to find out more information

[TBA4Freedom]

I take 4,000 units of vit. D @ day.

[danmarino1970]

@TBA4Freedom my baby has been taking the same ever since she was 3 yrs old... and i take 10 ius a day. be well.

[toobsucker]

I bet the treatment for Seasonal affective disorder is actually vitamin D and not the light its self as previously thought

[polychronio]

@toobsucker no way light is source of all lives. I dont have scientific fact but i feel that effect of light is not actually effect of vitamin d.

[ILykToDoDuhDrifting]

These facts don't seem hard.

Easy to produce correlation doesn't mean causation.

I doubt these researchers have selfish intentions though. And Vitamin D is cheap, so I'm just trying it anyways.

[tylerlarson000]

There actually is "hard research" showing exactly what the direct effect of vitamin D is on cancer, tumor growth, etc., and it's significant. But those details are a little bit heavy for a 1-minute news spot.

[TheCTimmerman]

@tylerlarson000 Heavy? I just want to know if the RDA of 5 mcg should be upped.

[danmarino1970]

hello all,

i do not know what the cure if any is for swine flu. however, please note that i have read that l- lysine, vitamin d, and vitamin a taken at first sight of illness can be used as an immune bosster (of course vitamin c and lots of fluid).

please go onto drtenpenny . com, healthfreedomusa . org, dr mercola and you will find useful information. i wish all especially the children health and happiness this school year and wish the best to all.

[samlaunch]

Any more than 20-minutes a day out in the sun is toxic. Vitamin D does provide 1 of 3 cures for the Swine Flu. 2 of 3 is L-Lysine. You'll have to research 3 of 3: that's for me to know and for you to find out.

[ksvaughan2]

20+ minutes toxic?  Depends where you are and in what season since sun rays vary. I am no sun lover, but so long as you aren't burning, it isn't a problem. But you will get D at noon whether you burn or not (not burning is better.)

[samlaunch]

Well, I also take Selenium before allowing the Vitamin D to work. One atom of Selenium will bind with one atom of mercury that has been stored in our brains via shots/vaccines given to us over a lifetime. Mercury causes thyroid problems, gray hair, sterilization, cancer, etc. I've been cured of my own physical problems by taking vitamins.

[danmarino1970]

it also depend on your natural defenses ..melenin pigment. if you are very fair skin, then your probability will be much higher. one thing that i also found out was that mediterranean, african, latin american people have less osteoparosis because vitamin d3 is a vehicle for calcium to be absorbed by bones more efficiently.

[ennui1812]

Wrong. Fair people actually produce vitamin d more readily due to the fact that they ARE fair. Melanin gets in the way of making enough vitamin d. This is the reason that darker skinned people suffer from lower levels of vit d, and the consequent later life diseases, when they live in the more northerly latitudes. White people evolved a lack of pigment to better take advantage of less sun in northern Europe. Osteoporosis is more complex than just sun exposure..also sex, diet, frame, smoking etc.

[ennui1812]

danmarino 1970, I am responding to your comment. Latin American people have less osteoporosis because they live closer to the equator not because they are dark. Melanin is protective but also means that darker people actually need MORE sun to meet their vit. d requirements. Darker people have LOWER blood levels of vit. d when they move north. Low serum vit. d is epidemic in African Americans and they suffer from more high bp, diabetes, prostate and breast cancer etc. than less pigmented whites.

[Ivanuthername]

'Mad dogs and .... '

Im not reassured by the pro-vitamin-D literature. It strikes me as being rife with loosely interpreted facts, like the correlation between cancer rates and distance from the equator (and hence insufficient vitamin D). Cancer rates also correlate with the presence of manufacturing, which is concentrated at temperate latitudes.[...]

In a wide range of traditional societies, people avoided the sun as much as possible, especially during the hours of peak UV."

[ksvaughan2]

We are not eating the way that traditional people did, with less D in the food, far more Omega 6s which increase the rate at which we burn Vitamin D. Don't know where you get the idea that traditional societies avoided sun: working in the fields w clothing of natural fibers gets plenty..

Two hours in the sun near the equator will give you 23,000 iu of Vitamin D3. If you work in the fields, you will get that much daily, even with a mid day break.

[happytalk94]

i'm sure learned medical men know more than you. just be a good guy and do as you're told.educate your immature mind if you able to. before you become decrepid and ill, because of your ignorance.i'm just thinking, would your other name be "numnuts"?

[Ivanuthername]

Mad dogs and ....'

"The medical community now recommends levels ... not reached by many tanned, outdoorsy people.

To stay above the recommended minimum of 75-150 nmol/L, we must take supplements. Yet even dietary supplementation seems to be countered within the body.

It looks like natural selection has aimed for an optimal vitamin D level substantially lower than the recommended minimum of 75-150 nmol/L. This in turn implies some kind of disadvantage above the optimal level." Early death?

[royalblowno]

Note he says alittle/moderate sun.. afew hours not extended periods of time.

the more pale the more careful you have to be..darker-complected people can be out longer

[marinello6]

In 1966 in April at age 11 my family went to Florida for vacation. I was out all day walking around with a friend from school that I met down in Miami Beach before it turned into a real low class affluent cesspool. People with class were moving.

All of us kids had sun poisoning. Our skin shriveled and blistered and we were in agony. Our flesh was full of pits and oozing liquid from our bodies. Stay out of the sun for your own good. There are charlatans all over trying to get attention.

[nichens]

I would ask you to do a little research into what the sun actually does for life on planet earth. It is amazingly powerful so it needs to respected, not feared.

If you looked at the most basic data regarding the sun you would see that it emits different types of light. Before and after 10am-2pm the sun gives off a high amount of UVA radiation. UVA is a much longer wave than UVB (the wave that effectively gives us vitamin d). It is the wave that causes problems with the skin, the afternoon ->

[nichens]

sun exposure is exactly why you would have the basal cell carcinoma on your face. It however is not a reason to want to put it out with a fire extinguisher.

I have compassion for you regarding those experiences and I hope you have found peace but they are not a valid argument for fearing the sun.

It is none of my business what you do but making rash claims about a subject you are obviously not educated on is a little daft. I am not interested in irrationality, the data speaks for itself.

[marinello6]

Thank you for being relatively respectful to a different perspective. I have spoken to people that have been on cruises in a certain areas off of Australia. They told me that they were told that they were in an ozone depleted area and to stay under cover. Listen, I believe that a little very early morning and late afternoon sun may be good for my psyche but I still feel that the Vitamin D created is not as important as the risk to "me". I speak only for myself.

[fntime]

marinello, I also got sun poisoning visiting Florida, I never went again in the sun for 25 yrs. BUT, you need vitamin D, suggestion, go out in the sun for 20 minutes a day, before 11AM and after 4PM, if you feel any burning sensation, get out of the sun. You might investigate the many illness, some degenerative diseases like MS, that are now believed to be caused by vitamin D deficency. I take 2500 ml, ever other day or so. The daily 400 ml, is inadequte. Good luck.

[marinello6]

Thanks for the info!

[ksvaughan2]

Sun poisoning is different from Vitamin D toxicosis, being a kind of severe burn. I have had it too (where sunscreen in Florida washed off my feet only.) But sun levels do not have to even cause tanning to build up your D levels. Curiously noon, when UVB gets through, is the best time for Vitamin D, but not tanning.

When my husband who suffers from SAD went to Florida one winter, he did get burned, but it was his first winter without depression, which low D can cause.

[polychronio]

@marinello6 i know what your talking about...oozing liquid...i had one from the sun...i actually had very big baloon things on my skin, full of yellow liquid inside...i stayed under sun whole day before i got it.......wanna know if your worse......20 minutes under sun is okay......i am doing it now everyday......

[marinello6]

@polychronio I get enough sun just going from the car to the store and other unavoidable exposure.

[marinello6]

When I drive West right before sunset, the sun is excruciating. It blinds you and burns your eyes. I am glad that the glass is tinted but I still need sunglasses. So many people get skin cancers on the left side of their faces because when you are behing the wheel, that is where you get most of the exposure. My basel cell cell was right under my left eye. Not only was I a sun lover but I have driven about 800,000 miles in my life...that damn sun always shining on the left side of my face.

[marinello6]

Nature is really good for you. Go out in sub-zero temps without clothes and see how long you last. Drink the abundant supply of water from the ocean and you will die real fast. Lie in the desert and get sun poisoning. Brief exposer in my opinion is ok. I used to look at the sun as the beautiful morning daisy.....now I see it as the daily hydrogen bomb. F. the sun. I wish I had a fire extinguisher to put the damn thing out.

[nichens]

Ok you seem to be completely misinformed on this subject. Some very troubling statements in your last few posts as far as accuracy of data is concerned. I don't want to go through every point, if you care about being up to date and informed on this subject search 'Whats a vitamind d deficiency' and watch the video. That will be a step in the right direction, you can browse to other videos of the conference from there.

[nichens]

Some are better than others, use an open mind/intelligence and discernment to sift.

I tried to post the links to some of the videos from that conference but they didnt post. I removed my own comments because they were out of order.

Dr. Heaney is not on the payroll of vitamin d manufacturers, if you watch the video you will see the list of his disclosures at the beginning.

[marinello6]

I suggest the same to you. Use an open mind/intelligence and discernment to sift.

You totally blow off my experience with skin cancer, my mother's first brush with death because of melanoma and my life experience. I also pose another perspective. You do not have to agree but why fight it when I make valid points that you yourself can relate to. Why do we go blind from looking in the sun for such a short time if the sun is so wonderful? Why are our eyes so sensitive to looking into the sun?

[marinello6]

The video says that skin cancer and Vitamin D is increased closer to the equator. This gentlemen (and who is Richard Setlow), says that vit. D protects from other cancers in general. DUH......not a revelation. Skin cancer rates are higher by the equator. There is no proven link here. The hypothesis given is meaningless. There are millions of other factors and statistics can be manipulated so easily. Maybe cancer deaths are less near the equator because of differnet foods, ethnics etc.

[marinello6]

I do not know the age of any of you guys. It is easy to talk when you are young. I am 54. I almost lost my mother to a malignant melanoma....she had bucks and luck on her side. As I said earlier she died from a fall in her own home. I have known countless numbers of people who have died from too much sun; a roofer, even a retired rabbi who loved that Florida sun. He had melanoma behind the eyeballs.

[sophiegromit]

Vitamin D obtained from the sun is much better and healthier than Vitamin D obtained orally, from what I have read. However, only 10 to 15 minutes of sun should suffice before the negative effects of too much sun exposure 'kick in'.

[columbo169]

dont be sunbumbed get some sun ,your body loves it

[marinello6]

I had one basel cell carcinoma on my face and do not want another one. I am not going to look for trouble. My milk intake and diet should be enough. 5 minutes of sun on the hands and face every other day is supposed to be enough to prevent a deficiency. I'll take my glass of milk or have a piece of fish. Just going to the store gives you enough sunlight.

[onewaypockets]

Drinking milk does not provide nearly enough vitamin D to make any difference whatsoever. Milk only has about 250iu per serving, while cutting edge researchers (Cannell, Vieth, Garland, Davis, etc)say we need 4,000iu daily. Get your blood tested, the proper test is the 25-hydrox-D blood test, you will probably find you are very deficient. I have to take 6,000iu a day to get to 50ng/ml, the recommended level to prevent most cancers, MS, bone and tooth loss, etc.

[nichens]

Going to the store does not give you enough sunlight and neither does 5 minutes of sun on the hands and face.

You have the ability to produce up to 10,000 IU a day if you expose enough of your body to the sun (wear your bathing suit) and spend 20-120 minutes in the sun (between 10am and 2pm) depending on the level of melanin in your skin. You will barely make a 20th of that with your hands and head exposed for 5 minutes a day.

Do some reading, there's enough data out there.

[marinello6]

Sorry,

I would rather take a supplement and even more importantly eat properly. My mother was born in North Germany...very blonde, blue eyed. She was a sun lover as was I. I am half Sicilian. She almost died from a malignant melonoma. My basel cell was a sign according to many dermatologists that my skin damage was enough and my genes from mother predisposed me to all skin cancers. Each person is different. When you have lived it then give advice. My mother escaped death by sun by luck.

[marinello6]

As the video says moderate sun prevents most cancers but not skin cancers. Vitamin D should be taken by those who can no longer worship the sun. I spent my life on the beaches of Long Island and Florida. I am 54. My genes are not the genes of others. My excess exposure to the sun (I have film of me at age one in the August sun of 1956). I went to day camps, beaches..etc. My situation is not the same as others who have not abused the sun.

[marinello6]

I would agree that sensible sun is good before 10am and 2pm.....not after. The minute you are not even pink.....there is damage. I went through all of the medical questions witht the people who do the surgery. I wish I knew then what I know now. In the fifties and sixties, people would put on baby oil, use aluminum relfectors to fry. Maybe the new generation can benefit from the sun now that they have the knowledge of "easy does it". My mother suffered so much and was inches from the box

[marinello6]

My mother died accidently 16 years after the melanoma from falling down a flight of stairs and splitting her head open on a tile floor. She was 77 and had the genes to live longer. My father died of Leukemia at the age of 73. He lived on fish as did I and was no stranger to the sun. He was the largest distributor of seafood on Long Island and almost went national.

[nichens]

It you take a supplement for Vitamin D make sure you are taking enough.

Dermatologists are behind the 8 ball a bit on this one, you definitely do not want to burn but to recommend people stay completely out of the sun is ignorant.There is a lot of data showing big problems occurring when people who have had sun exposure for their whole lives cut back their exposure to almost nothing. They then develop problem spots on their skin so the dermatologist advises them to stay out of the sun ->

[nichens]

completely which they do. In a lot of cases this practice eventually leads to melanoma which is then blamed on the early lifetime sun exposure. That is simply false, melanoma is a disease of indoor workers not outdoor. Often developing on parts of the skin that are not exposed to the sun.

This video is not very informative there is a series of videos on vitamin d on youtube from a vitamin d conference held at the UCSD School of Medicine. Dr Heaney is one of the leading researchers on vitamin d.

[nichens]

The time you should be getting 70% of your body exposed to the sun is between 10am and 2pm. Before or after those times and you will be getting very little if any UVB and a lot of UVA. You want your skin to go a very light shade of pink, that is not a sign of damage but a sign of enough UVB exposure to the skin. It is best not to wash your skin with soap for 1-2 hours after exposure as you can wash away some 80% of the vitamin.

I would recommend these videos if you want to get up to date with ->

[marinello6]

I wonder what you wrote where the comment was removed? There is not one dermatologist in the N.Y. area....some of the best...that would tell me to go into the sun between 10am and 2pm. What is interesting is that my skin hurts in a way that it never has in my life if I get even a little exposure. Many adults including doctors are confined to hospitals and offices with very little sun. They do not develop problems. Rickets was common during a very sad period of the industrial revolution.

[marinello6]

Is Dr. Heaney on the payroll of Vitamin D manufacturers? Many doctors are so egotistic and arrogant that they rationalize being on the take in a way that is acceptable to their conscience.  I am not living in 18th century Manchester, where the narrow streets let almost no sun through the smoke and fog covered skies while I am on a starvation diet of porridge. My grandparents grew up in a world circa 1900 where the women wore long dresses and hats and the wealthier men avoided a red neck.

[marinello6]

I agree that there are "probably" extra benefits to taking extra vitamin D3. Then again, I am not a doctor.

[AmbientDreamer]

It's not surprising, as we evolved in the presence of sunlight. We're bound to have found some evolutionary advantages in it.

[johnallanzero]

wow. thanks.