Central planning has never worked, and it won't work with this arrogant tyrant calling the shots either. Freedom is the tool that can fight the corruption and concentration of wealth we see today. Not more fascism is some new guys hands.
@benjak21 Freedom shouldn't be used so lightly. Fascism is after all the freedom of the corporate over everyone else. Freedom is meaningless if one has more freedom than someone else, that is the crux of capitalism and competitive markets. The ones with the most wealth will always have more political leverage just by proxy of their wealth, free market or not.
I'm against Central Planning as well fyi. I'd like to see mutualism (free market socialism)
@thenoorys Corporations have two ways of getting you to use/purchase their good/service. They can persuade you in the free market of ideas or they can force you through government regulations/apparatus. Force is by definition not freedom. To claim otherwise is illogical. Government force which they have co-opted is the root of the evil. Central power will always be corrupted. Which is why we should eliminate it.
@benjak21 Right, that's the only way anyone can supposedly get you to purchase anything. But even if you deleted the state and incorporation completely, capitalism relies on the tenets of absentee property and landlordism, that mean's it is an institution not just economic model. For it to work as planned a state needs to enforce those tenets, the problem is that land and resources are finite so someone will always own more than most everyone, those are the game riggers/dealers.
This movement is centrally planned socialism or fascism (both are the same in practice). In a truly free market, with free individuals, Prices communicate the availability of goods and resources. High prices infer low availability, low prices infer high availability. High prices divert resources to the areas where people most need or want them.
@benjak21 Sorry, socialism has nothing to do with fascism. Fascism is an extreme form of capitalism, socialism is based on worker owned public production, fascism is all about private domination of the state. ZGP and RBE are more of a form of technocratic communism. Communism is separate from socialism by the fact that it entails a stateless, classless, moneyless post scarcity society. Most anarchist are communist and most communist are anarchist. Marxist etc.. are the minority.
@thenoorys Capitalism by definition does not include force/coercion. Capitalism is based upon men and women owning their production and using it as they see fit. Fascism and socialism may be different in theory but in practice they are the same. Central/Elite control/manipulation of production and consumption. Tyranny. There will always be scarcity. Anarchists cannot by definition be socialists because socialism requires force/theft/redistribution. Socialism without force = Charity.
@benjak21 Heh, funny. I am an anarchist, we're definitely socialist and if you look into history we've always been since day one starting with PJ Proudhon. Socialism is actually when men and women own the full product of their labor. Capitalism is when someone can rent out their capital and reap rewards without input. In capitalism the worker never receives the full product their labor. Capitalism = theft
Also what you're describing is a social welfare state. "social democracy"
OK who is going to be the Janitor or the guy who cleans hog shit? Nobody likes doing it. Sounds like the purest form of communism. And how do you get items?
I want a Boat and a Ferrari. But I grow carrots for everyone. Just don't see it happening. I like the foundation of it, but has a massive amount of flaws.
@YiuTeub You are really misinformed about what this movement is about. I recommend you watch both movies "Zeitgeist: Addendum" and "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward". I also recommend you watch the documentary "Future by deisgn". Those should enligth you about many doubts you have about the project. There is also a lot of literature I can recommend if you're interested.
@giancarlo3000 I downloaded "moving forward". I have yet to watch it. I have a real problem with globalization or any form of it. I do not want a world government of any kind. Trade gold,silver,barter work etc. No government intervention in monetary issues. I wish we had small tribes like the natives did.
@YiuTeub Me too! That would mean more freedom. Maybe one day but we have to go through a huge shift. Unfortunately we are programed to believe globalization is down the pipeline. Have you heard of U.N. Agenda 21?
@YiuTeub Well, probably we would be living in some sort of peace, and we would be in harmony with our environment. But we wouldn't have a good standard of living. Imagine getting sick or breaking a leg and lacking the necessary medical attention to recover. All the knowledge we have, and the advancement of technology is the product of some sort of information exchange between people from all the world.
@YiuTeub A boat? Sure. A Ferrari? That over priced brand wouldn't be around anymore, we'd likely have Tesla type cars that outrun it all day. Competitive societies stifle innovation with IP and copywrite laws. I'd rather be a janitor cleaning hogshit all day than a bank accountant, retail salesmen or in "advertising".
All useless unproductive jobs that only arise out of the capitalist system.
@thenoorys Intellectual Property laws are not synonymous with competitive society. Your last comment is illogical. Those jobs may be unsavory but that doesn't mean they are not productive. I guess bank accounts are totally useless, and you have never needed help finding what you needed at a retail store, and communicating ideas is just worthless!
@benjak21 They are useful in this current model of society. The overbearing and (I thought) obvious point, is that, if you start from current capitalist premises you will always arrive at current capitalist conclusions. All of these laws are designed with the idea of protecting you against the system itself, but are really just to leverage the ones already winning the game.
matkoba, you didn't try and engage me in debate or let me know your views on this issue. you name called, crawl back in my cave? I don't know what that means, but o.k.
I don't trust Peter Joseph. And you should critically ask yourself "why?" if yo do. For someone who preaches so much about not trusting or complying with authority, he does insist on a suspicious amount of trust. Peter Joseph - LETS FIX EVERYTHING THIS SECOND SO WE CAN COMPLAIN THAT IT'S NOT FIXED. Ron Paul - Lets work our way out of dependence of government.
the comments here are crazy. what this guy wants is so evil and some of the commenters are buying joseph's line of b.s. who's going to be in charge of this utopian society? what if I don't want to live in a sustainable city, blocked off from the rest of the world? will there be police to imprison me?
@aradarad5 Why wouldn't you want to live in a sustainable city? Also, you wouldn't be blocked from the world, all the cities would be interconnected through high speed rail. There are no police/prisons, only help for those who need it.
@OBaum08 check a vid called agenda 21 for dummies right here on you tube. this vid explains the u.n's plan in thier own words and documents. this plan is identical to peter josephs plan. I think joseph is working with these people to sell the plan to the public. check it out for your self. thanks for engaging me in civilized conversation and feel free to get back to me any time......aradarad5
this man is very scary. maybe a front man for the u.n.? everything he talkes about is straight up agenda 21 and sustainable developement. almost word for word.
resource based system will never work. how the hell do you value a service with a resource. thats what money is for.
best thing is to nationalize everything and have the government open their own business that compete with every market out there to service the poorer citizens. i.e if the government open up a government walmart items would be so cheap because the profits would go back into the system instead of making a few people filthy rich.
@dano132454 are you retarded? ok just in case your not. Govt employees get paid with bennys 44% more than private employees (walmart for example). If govt is so good hows the usps doing against fedex, ups? Hows Amtrak doing? Hows the Federal govt doing shithead (hint running a 1.3 $ deficeit) go back to your govt , I mean public school to learn more about how fuckin great the govt is puckassfreakinloser
@dickiepipes no, sometimes i will write stupid shit on youtube because idiots like you love the sound of there own voice. but thanks for the comment whatever that means.
@dickiepipes You do realize the government is controlled by private interests and corporations right? Why would they want USPS to function as it did for over 100 years. If the air could be privatized they would, and you'd be buying it from Walmart gasping and choking, last words about gettin your government outta my air.
Ok so there's robots producing everything food, technology, etc, etc. And there is 0 people with jobs, how the hell are those corperations going to make money if nobody HAS THE MONEY to buy their products? It'll balance out somehow, but I agree this system is extremely hard to fix.
It all goes back to morality standards set 1-5 thousand years ago; that usury is a crime that ruins lives.
@Has1b i'm not trying to be a smart ass but, remember our housing market. they said the same thing. so we ended up with thousands of overpriced homes and people with loans so big they could not keep up so they lose it.
@PitBullsBiteHard Most humans are greedy bastards. Monkey see shiny rock.. monkey like shiny rock.. monkey must HAVE shiny rock! There. I just summed up the human race & how fantasy economy that isn't dog eat dog will never go over.
@Friedstuffsable Why can't monkey have shiny rock? Oh that's right, someone privatized it. Greed arises out of scarcity first and foremost. It was an evolutionary trait for animals when food is hard to come by. Eliminate the artificial scarcity of capitalism and all other feudalist "private" systems and nobody would want the rock anymore because everyone would have one.
In fact diamonds are a perfect and uncanny example of this very issue.
@thenoorys People are greedy. That is how it is. Take us back to zero a there would still be guys trying to get the best flowers & chocolate to impress a woman. & guys would still beat each others brains out every now & then over a female also. We are clannish, sectarian, greedy animals.
@thenoorys Again, private property has not created scarcity. Look at communist china last century. People lost their ability to own land and the fruits of their labor. Guess what, millions of people starved from scarcity of food because the government dictated the uses of everything, and they were totally incompetent. Like all governments. Why? Because they have no motivation to create of produce or be wise stewards. When they run out of resources they simply go steal more.
@virkjun I've met some of these zeit people. They are all talk and would all starve to death before they got up and did something for real. LOL Just a bunch of useless unproductive potheads.
@virkjun firstly he's an athiest not a luciferian, secondly what other system would you rather have? A system where people are manipulated and human resources are abused so that the top percentile can make even more money?
@virkjun Venus is the location in Florida where they do their work fuckwit. Maybe you should stop swallowing line, sink, and hook that Alex Jones tells you.
@virkjun Yes, stay home and be a good capitalist. After all the satanic overlords hate the idea of competitive warring societies based on neo-feudalist concepts. Artificial scarcity, unwarranted death and poverty enough though we have enough food on the planet to feed everyone.
God save the Queen, Bless Alex Jones and 20 hail Founding Fathers !
Sometimes i think this guy is a genius, sometimes i think, no he´s just born 300 years before the right time comes, to make clear to the public such an important, logical issue
@truthscollector actually this guy just represents common sense that isn't so common. any person with a brain knows all of these things he talks about. unfortunately not many people have a functioning brain and i'm not exaggerating in the least. the reason the world is fucked is because most people are STUPID. like, TEXTBOOK stupid. and in denial of it.
@ 10:06 they started miscommunicating. She asked him to provide and example of proof that it'd work, he sited 1st nation people living off the land and she took it to mean literally living like pioneers..he didn't catch that and started defending understanding the area/environment and the carrying capacity, which these 1st nation people did use, logically. Easy for people to misunderstand...all of us. It happens.
@blaziermissy right, i don't understand why she would think we would not still need journalist. we wouldn't need so many maybe but people would still have news to spread.
A resource economy sounds great. But this will only happen when there is a shift in consciousness in enough people. Then social pressures will move others in that direction.
Obviously, you're not going to force a resource based economy on people.
@paullie6719 And that shift in conciousness will only occur when human-kind is on the bring of disaster; when we have burned all our oil, mined all our coal, ate all our food, and deforested and polluted the planet. Because those with greed are reluctant to give it up.
Instead of wiring a whole new systems maybe the rest of the world needs to look at the system that made america the richest country in the world in a little over 200 years which is basically free market. It's only slowing down in america because of over regulation. And no I'm not a total deregulationist but when a 10 year old girl has to have a permit to put up a lemonade stand on her own property that's a symptom of real over regulation. Fact, the world started with his system, and moved on.
@BlindMaphisto Yes,but if your definition of rich is "we had the most paper backed by nothing" then its pointless..even if we did take the gold bk from the thieves..what is gold? can u eat it? can u build homes with it? does it cure cancer? we need2 realize whats important,and its not some piece of metal we worship because it looks pretty..as long as money of any form is around u cant trust doctors,scientists or engineers to be honest..and these are the ppl we need,not politicians
@EnveBeats What is gold? A non tarnishing rare metal that has been agreed upon for thousands of years to be an understood currency that can't be counter fitted and if you bought any gold ten years ago then you're sitting pretty. Don't get me wrong I am all for ditching this fiat currency and going to a backed currency, in fact I think we are screwed if we don't. But this zietgiest stuff is a pipe dream nightmare as far as I am concerned.
@BlindMaphisto Yeah a lot of great that gold is going to do you when the world is privatized by the capitalist elites (big fans of the freemarket until they get a taste of power)
When all the food and land is locked up and guarded by private state police, you think somebody with a few tomatoes is going to trade you for a useless brick of gold? Gold standard people worship the shit like a religion. Fuck why not Iridium? I heard that taste awesome.
@BlindMaphisto No it didn't. A resource based economy will work because it applies the scientific method to our social system. It is empirical because it has physical referant to the laws of nature, such as abiding by the carrying capacity of a given area. It views the planet and everything on it as a single system which it is and treats it as such. This is a systems theory approach, not free markets.
@BlindMaphisto We don't need free markets anymore, it always leads to corruption because you can pay off politicians for example. Regulation is there to stop that inherent corruption of the monetary mechanisms.
This journalist Is frustratingly stupid. Just another doubter that doesn't realise the actual survival of her species depends on immediate major change. Of course there are going to be challenges implementing it, but it needs to happen. That's the real point idiots like this refuse to see.
This sounds like communism again......removing money from the equation? well it did not work the last time buddy!!! We need to just remove money from Politics and make it transparent, to hell with the Super PACs!!!
yes chris too true. did you know that all the members of congress's income combines equates to over 500 million dollars. 500 million dollars! yet people still depend on these robbers to lead them on their path. sad indeed.
i agree with you Mr. Oliman. well thats the problem. trying to "convince" people is something very impossible as long as the ones have their jobs, their friends, social lifes, money, vacations ect. but i bet, and i am very sure, just exactly those ones like this female brainless reporter, if they would have to live under the same conditions like millions of really poor people do every day just because of this totally mad system, then they would suddenly listen to Mr. Josephs theories!
The female journalist is too stupid to understand what Mr. Joseph is trying to say. I for myself often try to convince people of at least thinking about what world we are living in. But this stupid journalist just makes fun of Mr. Josephs very right theories. I wish that people will wake up some day, but to be honest, most of the people on this earth are way too stupid to understand what is going on and in fact dont deserve better. Fuck you stupid bitch journalist!
the journalist actually seems to support his ideal theories. His stupified questions seem to lead the conversation into a major point for the theory. She was aware of what she needed to talk about. I for myself try to make many friends from school, understand the truth, so few actually agree. How sad
I have always said that if he is going to make a scientific argument he should be willing to do an experiment. I'm believe he has enough followers to make an experimental city.
@thecrooksareinoffice Look up the Venus Project by Jacque Fresco. He and Roxanne Meadows are building some experimental buildings in Florida. He is also featured in one of the Zeitgeist movies.
she only has looks on her side. female reporters should not be interviewing such important causes like this, because clearly, she zoned out a few times thinking about if her hair looks good on camera and that she wants that pretty dress she saw on sale the other day.
I love RT but I wish they would drop conspiracy theorists like Peter Joseph and Alex Jones... Unemployment is caused by technological advance? Nevermind Germany, Norway, Japan, Singapore...
The truth is we are all CREATOR BEINGS, yes we are all gods... we can create and use our free will for what we want but if that truth were to come out, how would kings and queens remain in power? so they lie and cover this up and even MAKE IT APPEAR SATANIC to know this very fact about our true nature.
and then there is a slew of videos and web info about him being for "NWO and Lucis trust and how that is Satanic but Lucifer is mistakenly associated with Satan... sad how you can get carried away with fasle information or "made up" information yes the bible was written and ordained by a person or persons not from some higher order and stories have a tendency to get distorted over time. the corrupt government yes they want power over the many , true what they do is mess up, cont
really all the smear towards Perter joseph comes from Fundy Christians who really are bothered by part 1 of Zeitgiest where he speaks about religion. I wish they would just stop stubbornly hanging on for dear life to beleif systems that no longer serve humanity, don't get me wrong they are allowed to beleive whatever they want but don't bash his ideas just because your pissed off.
Trouble is the elite families own the majority shareholdings of all the worlds key resources and have recently depleted them, now they are stealing the resources of Africa & the Middle East.
All those limited resources wasted on stupid people and their fucking Apple Ipods N shit.
@FitnessByMatt Matt, Peter is saying that by having machines do the boring and tedious work, humans could find time to have loftier goals, how many people do you know who have jobs they hate and are utterly meaningless and dumb? isn't that why you and many others try to make money on youtube? or would you rather have a job like most poeple that you hate and you know is meaningless?
@WhiteSage777 Many more people than you care to imagine 'hate' the environment they are working in. Not necessarily their job but the way they have to do it ..... out of necesity. You can make money with e-bay or youtube but not everybody is capable of making decent money out of it. Lot's of people are left out.
@bonosbones Exactly bonos, I understand totally and that is why I think resource based economy is a very good idea ! Where there is money there is greed and constant need to accumulate it and the best way to do that is usually through some sort of deceptive act. Why do that? why not let people do what they naturally do best?
@daryps03 One of the problem is that a politician is elected for a short time (3 to 5 years) which is way to little time for long term action. It gives them just enough time to line their pockets and fullfill their personal agenda. Problem is when politician stay longer it gets dangerous. We should have a world council of the wise to manange the planet.
@daryps03 no, the world would be the same, the people with money now would get to transfer there wealth to a resource based system and the power would continue on. Funny how they will get all the people who are anti NWO or one world government to fall for this. The power structure is the problem, the system we have now could easily continue into this type of system.
The "Star of David" is the "Mark of the Beast". It means 666. It is really the "Star of Moloch" also called "The Seal of Solomon". It has six triangles, six inner sides, and six points. It also has 60 degrees in every triangle. It has "6" written all over it. The "Star of David" is the Rothschild Star. It is the HEXAGRAM. It represents evil and ZIONISM. Wake UP. Israel is controlled by Satan. Do some research. Turn off your television. Read your bible. 9/11 was a Zionist job.
@ScrewSocialism There is no such thing as Satan. This and many others are trying to smear him because they are so upset about the first part of zeitgiest. When will you realize that we are CREATOR BEINGS all of us, even your Jesus said so ...
The person below has answered with Peter Joseph and the Lucis Trust,Its all there if you look! Bio chipping implants try TRAILER REFLECTIONS AND WARNINGS Alex Jones INTERVIEWS Aaron Russo COPYRIGHT FREE, full interview is on youtube and also in Alex Jones docs... To me Ron Paul is a true leader Peter Joseph is a salesman . The system is dying because of greedy corrupt psychopaths who have control of the printing machines.
The problem is the banking system. All roads lead to the "Money Changers" who create the money out of thin air and want to enslave us. The first part of this goon's speech is correct. However...technology will eventaully enslave us but is not the real problem.
Guys...if you care about your country...read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" and get informed on what is really going on. Us "Sheeple" better wake up.
Yeah it all sounds perfect but there is good AND Evil people, Psychopaths like the leaders of today who are not content with life unless they are murdering millions of people, add the Sociopaths to that and where do you go from there.You have to accept reality,A cashless society The NWO WOULD LOVE THAT.
@bladerunner123ish I Disagree without Money, there would be less greed and less worry, if each of use did what we naturally do best and contributed to the whole there would be less crime and less mental illness
@WhiteSage777 It does not matter if its cash, food, oil ,electric whatever,its peoples greed, A good leader leads people back to themselves you have to cure the Psychopaths and sociopaths before you can do anything, Stand this Guy next to Ron Paul and you will be able to Detect the Truth from the Lie. The NWO want a cashless society with bio chip implants, Imagine if Every human being had the mark 666 on there Bio Chip it would be the best trick the Devil ever played!!
@bladerunner123ish Peter Joseph is not for NWO, nor is he for such things as Biochipping , where are you getting this information? BTW I like Ron Paul 2, why are you pitting these 2 against each other?
Take the brilliant words of George Carlin "the illusion of choice", apply Scientific principles to the ability to THRIVE as a race, end up with the human species colonizing the stars.. NOT because we are dumping "money" into " space programs" but because we are a species of explorers, inventors, scientists, artists, poets, and so many more useful skills. Every one of us has a brilliance which would become clear if we rid ourselves of everything that holds us in the thrall of the oligarchy.
It's all about consciousness. Forget old indoctrinated false values and (R)evolve. Learn from the past and let's make next step in evolution ---> the technological people.
@bladerunner123ish you can't look at his ideas as something new and relavent to this day and age? why do you have to give it a label and compare it older systems that didn't work? the basic idea of communism is actually pretty ideal, it is just that it never turns out that ways, it actually turns to Dictatorship. The idea of a United one world Government which allows for the world to work together and in unity while respecting boundaries, how is that wrong? it isn't the idea that is 'wrong"
@AlienBeauty1 it is that how it really has panned out in the past thus far did not work. Because the people who sell the NWO are in reality not for a world who works together , they just want to use and Rule the world. Don't get stuck on words and labels those do not have meaning , the intent and ideas are what should be focused on.
@AlienBeauty1 Peter bashed one world government in his first movie and here he is endorsing a system which requires it. He has no clue about economics.
@FitnessByMatt Maybe so but his tought are worth thinking about. You do not have to endorse them completely but something is going fundamentally wrong. At least Peter makes you think.
We are all on a moving train that is very difficult to stop. The engineers are the upper 1%, and even if the passengers pull the cord, it will take generations to stop. If the bailout had not occurred, and those at the top were allowed to collapse due to their own criminal behavior, then perhaps we might be at a place for change. Unfortunately the greatest transference of economic wealth has been shifted upward. Zeitgeist (the original) was great, but they are naive and overly idealistic!
We are all on a moving train that is very difficult to stop. The engineers are the upper 1%, and even if the passengers pull the cord, it will take generations to stop. If the bailout had not occurred, and those at the top were allowed to collapse due to their own criminal behavior, then perhaps we might be at a place for change. Unfortunately the greatest transference of economic wealth has been shifted upward. Zeitgeist (the original) was great, but they are naive and overly idealistic!
We are all on a moving train that is very difficult to stop. The engineers are the upper 1%, and even if the passengers pull the cord, it will take generations to stop. If the bailout had not occurred, and those at the top were allowed to collapse due to their own criminal behavior, then perhaps we might be at a place for change. Unfortunately the greatest transference of economic wealth has been shifted upward. Zeitgeist (the original) was great, but they are naive and overly idealistic!
We are all on a moving train that is very difficult to stop. The engineers are the upper 1%, and even if the passengers pull the cord, it will take generations to stop. If the bailout had not occurred, and those at the top were allowed to collapse due to their own criminal behavior, then perhaps we might be at a place for change. Unfortunately the greatest transference of economic wealth has been shifted upward. Zeitgeist (the original) was great, but they are naive and overly idealistic!
Disheartening to see so many people who just don't seem to understand that this is simply PRACTICAL - that is if we want to survive as a species. I do.
No thanks! These guys always sound great, but in the end they are coming for your shit, and going to tell you how to live your life. Sounds like prison to me.
the movie gattaca is tzg. only the eugenecist genetic elite will get the best life has to offer. if you havent been exterminated during the initial nwo depopulation that is.
@Lakopa8 you should research how tzm is the perfect example of problem reaction solution. implode the global economy, wait for eveybody to lose it, then call for a world govt. tzm embodies the new world order. sure itll be high tech but most likely only the elites will get to enjoy it. cash based or resource based. you still got the same people at the top of the pyramid.
sorry to tell you folks but the system is irreparably broken , we have decended into fascism and this crazy marxist bullshit will never fly thank god or fix anything, im afraid the only remedy now is massive bloodshed
@bulletproof2353 Oh no he is working towards a better society for all of us. Seriously what is wrong with that? If you don't agree with him then make an argument...
if you dont believe me then just check out the SOPA bill video on my favorites on my page it is a great example of how this all works and why to the average person it dont seem to make sense at first glance and on the surface of it, though the sopa thing goes a bit deeper,its really the hegalian dialectic at work ,they created the problem so they could present the solution ,and the soluton is to use the government o shut down all their competition and give them total control of the internet
that they will be exempt and that the real purpose of the regulation is to use the government as enforcers and the legislations to shut down their competition ,they got to be monopolies not despite of the government, but BECAUSE OF IT, the government is like the mafia ,or the corporations are like the mafia and the government is their leg breaker
@craftymiscreant the problem is that we dont have capitaism here ,we have fascism, the merger of state and corporate power, the corporations own the government and they own the media ,they own it all ,and the government dont pass any legislation to help anyone but the big corporations, the big corporations use the government and lobby for more regulation that seems to alot of people like it would be a crack down on themsleves,but in fact they want it and are pushing for it because they know
tzm is just a new spin on bullshit marxist propaganda you ahve to be a fucking moron to not see that,anyone who has actually read huxley and brave new world and the communist manifesto can figure out this is bullshit
To be free, you don't need a republic, a democracy, or any other political social system. To be truly free, you don't need to submit to anything or anybody. Thats true freedom.
A stateless world with free markets, however, allows your gang of nitwits to accept people into your ranks, if they join you voluntarily. Although it isn't likely they will still want to after seeing the free society at work.
@sheepOG Resource based economy is nothing close to Communism. I will even go far to say that Fascism is closer to Communism. You know why? Because they are both MONETARY systems. ALL CORRUPT! Even the free monetary system is corrupt. I can guarantee you that in our life time, Capitalism will prove to fail. Just like all the other systems on the left or right side of the political spectrum
@arc175 Left and Right are merely two sides of the same coin which is minted for the purpose of dividing humanity. Both corrupt both failing and dependent on greed to function.
@arc175 So, TZM is not, like communism, an ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production?
Then you can probably tell me how TZM is going to create this "abundance" which makes everything free, and what or who will be responsible for allocating those resources - both these problems resulted in empty stores in the USSR. I'm sure you also have a replacement for the price mechanism that TZM lacks.
@sheepOG Communism IS NOT MONEYLESS! It's a monetary system (requires money to work) It has a central banking system which = CORRUPT! Just like Capitalism, Socialism, etc. You should really look into this more before comparing The Zeitgeist Movement towards Communism... And btw, Fascism is more like Communism than TZM because it's 'monetary'
@arc175 "The Russians, after trying an approach to the communist moneyless economy in their "War Communism" shortly after the Bolshevik Revolution, reacted in horror as they saw the Russian economy heading to disaster. Even Stalin never tried to revive it, and since World War II the East European countries have seen a total abandonment of this communist ideal and a rapid move toward free markets, a free price system, profit-and-loss tests, and a promotion of consumer affluence." - Rothbard
@arc175 And I have a better understanding of collectivism and free markets than you do apparently.
Capitalism, as in free markets, does not allow for central banks (central anything really).
Fascism, what we have now, is the deformed cousin of socialism, which in turn is the bastard son of communism. The differences are mostly in wording. One big difference is that the former two are statist forms of collectivism.
That reporter is a cunt. A stupid one,
victorhui26 6 days ago
This man is the Karl Marx of the 21st century.
DrAsshat 1 week ago
He stops talking when being asked a question?
And he is an American?
-OBJECTION!
he must be an alien !
kjah11 2 weeks ago
Central planning has never worked, and it won't work with this arrogant tyrant calling the shots either. Freedom is the tool that can fight the corruption and concentration of wealth we see today. Not more fascism is some new guys hands.
benjak21 2 weeks ago
@benjak21 Freedom shouldn't be used so lightly. Fascism is after all the freedom of the corporate over everyone else. Freedom is meaningless if one has more freedom than someone else, that is the crux of capitalism and competitive markets. The ones with the most wealth will always have more political leverage just by proxy of their wealth, free market or not.
I'm against Central Planning as well fyi. I'd like to see mutualism (free market socialism)
thenoorys 1 week ago
@thenoorys Corporations have two ways of getting you to use/purchase their good/service. They can persuade you in the free market of ideas or they can force you through government regulations/apparatus. Force is by definition not freedom. To claim otherwise is illogical. Government force which they have co-opted is the root of the evil. Central power will always be corrupted. Which is why we should eliminate it.
benjak21 1 week ago
@benjak21 Right, that's the only way anyone can supposedly get you to purchase anything. But even if you deleted the state and incorporation completely, capitalism relies on the tenets of absentee property and landlordism, that mean's it is an institution not just economic model. For it to work as planned a state needs to enforce those tenets, the problem is that land and resources are finite so someone will always own more than most everyone, those are the game riggers/dealers.
thenoorys 1 week ago
This movement is centrally planned socialism or fascism (both are the same in practice). In a truly free market, with free individuals, Prices communicate the availability of goods and resources. High prices infer low availability, low prices infer high availability. High prices divert resources to the areas where people most need or want them.
benjak21 2 weeks ago
@benjak21 Sorry, socialism has nothing to do with fascism. Fascism is an extreme form of capitalism, socialism is based on worker owned public production, fascism is all about private domination of the state. ZGP and RBE are more of a form of technocratic communism. Communism is separate from socialism by the fact that it entails a stateless, classless, moneyless post scarcity society. Most anarchist are communist and most communist are anarchist. Marxist etc.. are the minority.
thenoorys 1 week ago
@thenoorys Capitalism by definition does not include force/coercion. Capitalism is based upon men and women owning their production and using it as they see fit. Fascism and socialism may be different in theory but in practice they are the same. Central/Elite control/manipulation of production and consumption. Tyranny. There will always be scarcity. Anarchists cannot by definition be socialists because socialism requires force/theft/redistribution. Socialism without force = Charity.
benjak21 1 week ago
@benjak21 Heh, funny. I am an anarchist, we're definitely socialist and if you look into history we've always been since day one starting with PJ Proudhon. Socialism is actually when men and women own the full product of their labor. Capitalism is when someone can rent out their capital and reap rewards without input. In capitalism the worker never receives the full product their labor. Capitalism = theft
Also what you're describing is a social welfare state. "social democracy"
thenoorys 1 week ago
OK who is going to be the Janitor or the guy who cleans hog shit? Nobody likes doing it. Sounds like the purest form of communism. And how do you get items?
I want a Boat and a Ferrari. But I grow carrots for everyone. Just don't see it happening. I like the foundation of it, but has a massive amount of flaws.
YiuTeub 2 weeks ago
@YiuTeub You are really misinformed about what this movement is about. I recommend you watch both movies "Zeitgeist: Addendum" and "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward". I also recommend you watch the documentary "Future by deisgn". Those should enligth you about many doubts you have about the project. There is also a lot of literature I can recommend if you're interested.
giancarlo3000 2 weeks ago
@giancarlo3000 I downloaded "moving forward". I have yet to watch it. I have a real problem with globalization or any form of it. I do not want a world government of any kind. Trade gold,silver,barter work etc. No government intervention in monetary issues. I wish we had small tribes like the natives did.
YiuTeub 2 weeks ago
@YiuTeub Me too! That would mean more freedom. Maybe one day but we have to go through a huge shift. Unfortunately we are programed to believe globalization is down the pipeline. Have you heard of U.N. Agenda 21?
Wigzelleleven 2 weeks ago
@Wigzelleleven
Yup and I have read about 1/3 of the document on the U.N. website. ICLEI is the group involved in implementing some of the agenda.
YiuTeub 2 weeks ago
@YiuTeub Well, probably we would be living in some sort of peace, and we would be in harmony with our environment. But we wouldn't have a good standard of living. Imagine getting sick or breaking a leg and lacking the necessary medical attention to recover. All the knowledge we have, and the advancement of technology is the product of some sort of information exchange between people from all the world.
giancarlo3000 2 weeks ago
@YiuTeub What are the flaws?
OBaum08 2 weeks ago
@YiuTeub A boat? Sure. A Ferrari? That over priced brand wouldn't be around anymore, we'd likely have Tesla type cars that outrun it all day. Competitive societies stifle innovation with IP and copywrite laws. I'd rather be a janitor cleaning hogshit all day than a bank accountant, retail salesmen or in "advertising".
All useless unproductive jobs that only arise out of the capitalist system.
thenoorys 1 week ago
@thenoorys Intellectual Property laws are not synonymous with competitive society. Your last comment is illogical. Those jobs may be unsavory but that doesn't mean they are not productive. I guess bank accounts are totally useless, and you have never needed help finding what you needed at a retail store, and communicating ideas is just worthless!
benjak21 1 week ago
@benjak21 They are useful in this current model of society. The overbearing and (I thought) obvious point, is that, if you start from current capitalist premises you will always arrive at current capitalist conclusions. All of these laws are designed with the idea of protecting you against the system itself, but are really just to leverage the ones already winning the game.
thenoorys 1 week ago
Don't buy it at a face value.I encourage all to research what and who, and why REALLY is behind Zeitgeist.
gsamborska 2 weeks ago
really smart guy
tubeyouitsaccount 2 weeks ago
matkoba, you didn't try and engage me in debate or let me know your views on this issue. you name called, crawl back in my cave? I don't know what that means, but o.k.
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TheWhiteboy3431 3 weeks ago
I don't trust Peter Joseph. And you should critically ask yourself "why?" if yo do. For someone who preaches so much about not trusting or complying with authority, he does insist on a suspicious amount of trust. Peter Joseph - LETS FIX EVERYTHING THIS SECOND SO WE CAN COMPLAIN THAT IT'S NOT FIXED. Ron Paul - Lets work our way out of dependence of government.
MarquisGemini 3 weeks ago
the comments here are crazy. what this guy wants is so evil and some of the commenters are buying joseph's line of b.s. who's going to be in charge of this utopian society? what if I don't want to live in a sustainable city, blocked off from the rest of the world? will there be police to imprison me?
aradarad5 3 weeks ago
@aradarad5 What's about if I don't want to live in the system today? What I can do? Nothing, I will have to live. It's the same.
GreenaticVFC 3 weeks ago
@aradarad5 :D crawl back to your cave...
MatkoBA 3 weeks ago
@aradarad5 Why wouldn't you want to live in a sustainable city? Also, you wouldn't be blocked from the world, all the cities would be interconnected through high speed rail. There are no police/prisons, only help for those who need it.
OBaum08 2 weeks ago
@OBaum08 check a vid called agenda 21 for dummies right here on you tube. this vid explains the u.n's plan in thier own words and documents. this plan is identical to peter josephs plan. I think joseph is working with these people to sell the plan to the public. check it out for your self. thanks for engaging me in civilized conversation and feel free to get back to me any time......aradarad5
aradarad5 1 week ago
this man is very scary. maybe a front man for the u.n.? everything he talkes about is straight up agenda 21 and sustainable developement. almost word for word.
aradarad5 3 weeks ago
@aradarad5 I missed the boat when sustainable development became a bad word. Is this Newspeak or just Alex Jones capitalist/feudalist BS?
thenoorys 1 week ago
lets co operate
missmarplefan 3 weeks ago
He makes Ron Paul sound like an idiot....
23lFrench 3 weeks ago
resource based system will never work. how the hell do you value a service with a resource. thats what money is for.
best thing is to nationalize everything and have the government open their own business that compete with every market out there to service the poorer citizens. i.e if the government open up a government walmart items would be so cheap because the profits would go back into the system instead of making a few people filthy rich.
dano132454 3 weeks ago
@dano132454 are you retarded? ok just in case your not. Govt employees get paid with bennys 44% more than private employees (walmart for example). If govt is so good hows the usps doing against fedex, ups? Hows Amtrak doing? Hows the Federal govt doing shithead (hint running a 1.3 $ deficeit) go back to your govt , I mean public school to learn more about how fuckin great the govt is puckassfreakinloser
dickiepipes 3 weeks ago
@dickiepipes no, sometimes i will write stupid shit on youtube because idiots like you love the sound of there own voice. but thanks for the comment whatever that means.
dano132454 3 weeks ago
@dickiepipes You do realize the government is controlled by private interests and corporations right? Why would they want USPS to function as it did for over 100 years. If the air could be privatized they would, and you'd be buying it from Walmart gasping and choking, last words about gettin your government outta my air.
thenoorys 1 week ago
@dano132454 Services can/will be entirely automated by computer and machine.
OBaum08 2 weeks ago
Ok so there's robots producing everything food, technology, etc, etc. And there is 0 people with jobs, how the hell are those corperations going to make money if nobody HAS THE MONEY to buy their products? It'll balance out somehow, but I agree this system is extremely hard to fix.
It all goes back to morality standards set 1-5 thousand years ago; that usury is a crime that ruins lives.
Has1b 4 weeks ago
@Has1b i'm not trying to be a smart ass but, remember our housing market. they said the same thing. so we ended up with thousands of overpriced homes and people with loans so big they could not keep up so they lose it.
PitBullsBiteHard 3 weeks ago
Cult leader guy calls for unrealistic world system.
Friedstuffsable 4 weeks ago
@Friedstuffsable it is only unreal if you are a greedy bastard.
PitBullsBiteHard 3 weeks ago
@PitBullsBiteHard Most humans are greedy bastards. Monkey see shiny rock.. monkey like shiny rock.. monkey must HAVE shiny rock! There. I just summed up the human race & how fantasy economy that isn't dog eat dog will never go over.
Friedstuffsable 3 weeks ago
@Friedstuffsable i agree, are you a joe rogan fan?
PitBullsBiteHard 3 weeks ago
@PitBullsBiteHard Yeah, I just watched that rant before this video & it is so true. I always thought that guy was just a fight announcer.
Friedstuffsable 3 weeks ago
@Friedstuffsable Why can't monkey have shiny rock? Oh that's right, someone privatized it. Greed arises out of scarcity first and foremost. It was an evolutionary trait for animals when food is hard to come by. Eliminate the artificial scarcity of capitalism and all other feudalist "private" systems and nobody would want the rock anymore because everyone would have one.
In fact diamonds are a perfect and uncanny example of this very issue.
thenoorys 1 week ago
@thenoorys People are greedy. That is how it is. Take us back to zero a there would still be guys trying to get the best flowers & chocolate to impress a woman. & guys would still beat each others brains out every now & then over a female also. We are clannish, sectarian, greedy animals.
Friedstuffsable 1 week ago
@thenoorys Again, private property has not created scarcity. Look at communist china last century. People lost their ability to own land and the fruits of their labor. Guess what, millions of people starved from scarcity of food because the government dictated the uses of everything, and they were totally incompetent. Like all governments. Why? Because they have no motivation to create of produce or be wise stewards. When they run out of resources they simply go steal more.
benjak21 1 week ago
Ugh!
He's a Luciferian Theosophist!
He cleverly mixes partial truths with Luciferianism.
Venus = The Morning Star = Lucifer
The Venus Project IS the New World Order.
You think you're rising up, but you're only acclimatizing yourselves to the New World Order by falling for Zeitgeist's trickery.
It's very tempting, but please don't be fooled by this stuff.
virkjun 1 month ago
@virkjun I've met some of these zeit people. They are all talk and would all starve to death before they got up and did something for real. LOL Just a bunch of useless unproductive potheads.
Zoink888 4 weeks ago
@Zoink888 something real, like make soda pop, or candy, or massive fuel consuming hot rods. you are right they would starve first.
PitBullsBiteHard 3 weeks ago
@virkjun firstly he's an athiest not a luciferian, secondly what other system would you rather have? A system where people are manipulated and human resources are abused so that the top percentile can make even more money?
ItsCurtis94 4 weeks ago
@virkjun Venus is the location in Florida where they do their work fuckwit. Maybe you should stop swallowing line, sink, and hook that Alex Jones tells you.
IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER 2 weeks ago
@virkjun Yes, stay home and be a good capitalist. After all the satanic overlords hate the idea of competitive warring societies based on neo-feudalist concepts. Artificial scarcity, unwarranted death and poverty enough though we have enough food on the planet to feed everyone.
God save the Queen, Bless Alex Jones and 20 hail Founding Fathers !
thenoorys 1 week ago
Sometimes i think this guy is a genius, sometimes i think, no he´s just born 300 years before the right time comes, to make clear to the public such an important, logical issue
truthscollector 1 month ago
@truthscollector actually this guy just represents common sense that isn't so common. any person with a brain knows all of these things he talks about. unfortunately not many people have a functioning brain and i'm not exaggerating in the least. the reason the world is fucked is because most people are STUPID. like, TEXTBOOK stupid. and in denial of it.
thesponge8 4 weeks ago
@ 10:06 they started miscommunicating. She asked him to provide and example of proof that it'd work, he sited 1st nation people living off the land and she took it to mean literally living like pioneers..he didn't catch that and started defending understanding the area/environment and the carrying capacity, which these 1st nation people did use, logically. Easy for people to misunderstand...all of us. It happens.
blaziermissy 1 month ago
@blaziermissy right, i don't understand why she would think we would not still need journalist. we wouldn't need so many maybe but people would still have news to spread.
PitBullsBiteHard 3 weeks ago
A resource economy sounds great. But this will only happen when there is a shift in consciousness in enough people. Then social pressures will move others in that direction.
Obviously, you're not going to force a resource based economy on people.
paullie6719 1 month ago
@paullie6719
We'll end up there someday.....it's how we get there that's going to be scary.
kathrynk007 1 month ago
@kathrynk007 Hope you're right...on the first part.
paullie6719 1 month ago
@paullie6719 And that shift in conciousness will only occur when human-kind is on the bring of disaster; when we have burned all our oil, mined all our coal, ate all our food, and deforested and polluted the planet. Because those with greed are reluctant to give it up.
ItsCurtis94 4 weeks ago
Peter should talk about Jacque Fresco, after all, RBE is Fresco's idea ;)
MrT0rture 1 month ago
Instead of wiring a whole new systems maybe the rest of the world needs to look at the system that made america the richest country in the world in a little over 200 years which is basically free market. It's only slowing down in america because of over regulation. And no I'm not a total deregulationist but when a 10 year old girl has to have a permit to put up a lemonade stand on her own property that's a symptom of real over regulation. Fact, the world started with his system, and moved on.
BlindMaphisto 1 month ago
@BlindMaphisto Yes,but if your definition of rich is "we had the most paper backed by nothing" then its pointless..even if we did take the gold bk from the thieves..what is gold? can u eat it? can u build homes with it? does it cure cancer? we need2 realize whats important,and its not some piece of metal we worship because it looks pretty..as long as money of any form is around u cant trust doctors,scientists or engineers to be honest..and these are the ppl we need,not politicians
EnveBeats 1 month ago
@EnveBeats What is gold? A non tarnishing rare metal that has been agreed upon for thousands of years to be an understood currency that can't be counter fitted and if you bought any gold ten years ago then you're sitting pretty. Don't get me wrong I am all for ditching this fiat currency and going to a backed currency, in fact I think we are screwed if we don't. But this zietgiest stuff is a pipe dream nightmare as far as I am concerned.
BlindMaphisto 1 month ago
@BlindMaphisto Yeah a lot of great that gold is going to do you when the world is privatized by the capitalist elites (big fans of the freemarket until they get a taste of power)
When all the food and land is locked up and guarded by private state police, you think somebody with a few tomatoes is going to trade you for a useless brick of gold? Gold standard people worship the shit like a religion. Fuck why not Iridium? I heard that taste awesome.
thenoorys 1 week ago
@BlindMaphisto No it didn't. A resource based economy will work because it applies the scientific method to our social system. It is empirical because it has physical referant to the laws of nature, such as abiding by the carrying capacity of a given area. It views the planet and everything on it as a single system which it is and treats it as such. This is a systems theory approach, not free markets.
RenewableFuel 1 month ago
@RenewableFuel Resources are finite. So population and resource comes to a peak and then some shit goes down.
YiuTeub 2 weeks ago
@BlindMaphisto We don't need free markets anymore, it always leads to corruption because you can pay off politicians for example. Regulation is there to stop that inherent corruption of the monetary mechanisms.
RenewableFuel 1 month ago
This journalist Is frustratingly stupid. Just another doubter that doesn't realise the actual survival of her species depends on immediate major change. Of course there are going to be challenges implementing it, but it needs to happen. That's the real point idiots like this refuse to see.
sp319 1 month ago
@sp319
She (and people like her) are worried about their Gucci and Louis Vuitton. LOL
kathrynk007 1 month ago
This sounds like communism again......removing money from the equation? well it did not work the last time buddy!!! We need to just remove money from Politics and make it transparent, to hell with the Super PACs!!!
chrisdabdoub 1 month ago
@chrisSUCKSCOCK nice name fag.
dano132454 1 month ago
@chrisdabdoub
yes chris too true. did you know that all the members of congress's income combines equates to over 500 million dollars. 500 million dollars! yet people still depend on these robbers to lead them on their path. sad indeed.
tanio12 1 month ago
sounds awesome, but this will take several decades, WW3, and civil wars
v4lkyr 1 month ago
The most dangerous ideologies are ones that convince people without specifics or principle.
Batta0909 1 month ago
@Batta0909 That defines our monetary market system pretty well, gg
wtfzwrong 1 month ago
Ulg this blond needs a big ****. the questions she ask.
Crafsmen 1 month ago
Put water and electricity for free and you have few problems solve.
Ultraevil88 1 month ago
3:46 - "shit, she doesnt get it yet"
bweighill17 1 month ago
@bweighill17 Yep, she is dump (sadly) she does not see big picture.
Ultraevil88 1 month ago
i agree with you Mr. Oliman. well thats the problem. trying to "convince" people is something very impossible as long as the ones have their jobs, their friends, social lifes, money, vacations ect. but i bet, and i am very sure, just exactly those ones like this female brainless reporter, if they would have to live under the same conditions like millions of really poor people do every day just because of this totally mad system, then they would suddenly listen to Mr. Josephs theories!
MrToronto71 1 month ago
The female journalist is too stupid to understand what Mr. Joseph is trying to say. I for myself often try to convince people of at least thinking about what world we are living in. But this stupid journalist just makes fun of Mr. Josephs very right theories. I wish that people will wake up some day, but to be honest, most of the people on this earth are way too stupid to understand what is going on and in fact dont deserve better. Fuck you stupid bitch journalist!
MrToronto71 1 month ago
the journalist actually seems to support his ideal theories. His stupified questions seem to lead the conversation into a major point for the theory. She was aware of what she needed to talk about. I for myself try to make many friends from school, understand the truth, so few actually agree. How sad
MrLuisOliman 1 month ago
I have always said that if he is going to make a scientific argument he should be willing to do an experiment. I'm believe he has enough followers to make an experimental city.
thecrooksareinoffice 1 month ago
@thecrooksareinoffice Let's do it. I'm down.
YoungNinoFresco 1 month ago
@thecrooksareinoffice Look up the Venus Project by Jacque Fresco. He and Roxanne Meadows are building some experimental buildings in Florida. He is also featured in one of the Zeitgeist movies.
AndersHermann 1 month ago
He's not a genius. He just hasn't bought into the horsesh1t that's shoved down our throats by the media and dead-ucational system.
annyms21 1 month ago
she only has looks on her side. female reporters should not be interviewing such important causes like this, because clearly, she zoned out a few times thinking about if her hair looks good on camera and that she wants that pretty dress she saw on sale the other day.
appletreeshadow13579 1 month ago
I dont think she understands what he is saying, it is actually quite advanced and evolutionary thnking
scrubbycritter 1 month ago
Wow this guy is smart, this guy SHOULD DEFINITELY BE PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD
scrubbycritter 1 month ago
I love RT but I wish they would drop conspiracy theorists like Peter Joseph and Alex Jones... Unemployment is caused by technological advance? Nevermind Germany, Norway, Japan, Singapore...
chickenpound 1 month ago
The truth is we are all CREATOR BEINGS, yes we are all gods... we can create and use our free will for what we want but if that truth were to come out, how would kings and queens remain in power? so they lie and cover this up and even MAKE IT APPEAR SATANIC to know this very fact about our true nature.
AlienBeauty1 1 month ago
but satanic ? Come on ! why bring religion into it at all?
AlienBeauty1 1 month ago
and then there is a slew of videos and web info about him being for "NWO and Lucis trust and how that is Satanic but Lucifer is mistakenly associated with Satan... sad how you can get carried away with fasle information or "made up" information yes the bible was written and ordained by a person or persons not from some higher order and stories have a tendency to get distorted over time. the corrupt government yes they want power over the many , true what they do is mess up, cont
AlienBeauty1 1 month ago
really all the smear towards Perter joseph comes from Fundy Christians who really are bothered by part 1 of Zeitgiest where he speaks about religion. I wish they would just stop stubbornly hanging on for dear life to beleif systems that no longer serve humanity, don't get me wrong they are allowed to beleive whatever they want but don't bash his ideas just because your pissed off.
AlienBeauty1 1 month ago
Trouble is the elite families own the majority shareholdings of all the worlds key resources and have recently depleted them, now they are stealing the resources of Africa & the Middle East.
All those limited resources wasted on stupid people and their fucking Apple Ipods N shit.
6evorev6 1 month ago
another dumb question on her part, trying to go to the past to see if it can work for the present. Things have changed obviously.
WhiteSage777 1 month ago
I like how she called him out on his BS.
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
@FitnessByMatt NO she actually didn't her idea of freedom is capitolism , greed, a sense of ownership and nationalism. and selfishness.
WhiteSage777 1 month ago
So Peter thinks that all we have to do is decide to get along and we will all get along?
Wow, why didn't anyone think of this before?
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
Technology destroys jobs...LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright, so let's go back to 1800 farming methods - everyone would be employed! I mean, yeah, millions would starve, but no big deal to Peter.
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
@FitnessByMatt Matt, Peter is saying that by having machines do the boring and tedious work, humans could find time to have loftier goals, how many people do you know who have jobs they hate and are utterly meaningless and dumb? isn't that why you and many others try to make money on youtube? or would you rather have a job like most poeple that you hate and you know is meaningless?
WhiteSage777 1 month ago
@WhiteSage777 Many more people than you care to imagine 'hate' the environment they are working in. Not necessarily their job but the way they have to do it ..... out of necesity. You can make money with e-bay or youtube but not everybody is capable of making decent money out of it. Lot's of people are left out.
bonosbones 1 month ago
@bonosbones Exactly bonos, I understand totally and that is why I think resource based economy is a very good idea ! Where there is money there is greed and constant need to accumulate it and the best way to do that is usually through some sort of deceptive act. Why do that? why not let people do what they naturally do best?
AlienBeauty1 1 month ago
Peter knows nothing about economics. I hope that no one here takes him seriously.
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
this guy is a genius, can we have him as president this world would be a better place.
daryps03 1 month ago 17
@daryps03 One of the problem is that a politician is elected for a short time (3 to 5 years) which is way to little time for long term action. It gives them just enough time to line their pockets and fullfill their personal agenda. Problem is when politician stay longer it gets dangerous. We should have a world council of the wise to manange the planet.
bonosbones 1 month ago
@daryps03 We would need someone like him in every nation on Earth.
YoungNinoFresco 1 month ago
@YoungNinoFresco yeah but remember that when poeple from other countries realize what his doing for that country, they going to rise up.
daryps03 1 month ago
if we were to live in his ideal society, we wouldn't have a president. This would be a better place
MrLuisOliman 1 month ago
@daryps03 no, the world would be the same, the people with money now would get to transfer there wealth to a resource based system and the power would continue on. Funny how they will get all the people who are anti NWO or one world government to fall for this. The power structure is the problem, the system we have now could easily continue into this type of system.
br0wnb3rry 1 month ago
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daryps03 1 month ago
The "Star of David" is the "Mark of the Beast". It means 666. It is really the "Star of Moloch" also called "The Seal of Solomon". It has six triangles, six inner sides, and six points. It also has 60 degrees in every triangle. It has "6" written all over it. The "Star of David" is the Rothschild Star. It is the HEXAGRAM. It represents evil and ZIONISM. Wake UP. Israel is controlled by Satan. Do some research. Turn off your television. Read your bible. 9/11 was a Zionist job.
ScrewSocialism 1 month ago
@ScrewSocialism There is no such thing as Satan. This and many others are trying to smear him because they are so upset about the first part of zeitgiest. When will you realize that we are CREATOR BEINGS all of us, even your Jesus said so ...
WhiteSage777 1 month ago
The person below has answered with Peter Joseph and the Lucis Trust,Its all there if you look! Bio chipping implants try TRAILER REFLECTIONS AND WARNINGS Alex Jones INTERVIEWS Aaron Russo COPYRIGHT FREE, full interview is on youtube and also in Alex Jones docs... To me Ron Paul is a true leader Peter Joseph is a salesman . The system is dying because of greedy corrupt psychopaths who have control of the printing machines.
bladerunner123ish 1 month ago
This GUY WORKS FOR THE ROCKEFELLER's and the LUCIS TRUST.
He's a NWO....whore used to brainwash the uniformed.
ScrewSocialism 2 months ago
@ScrewSocialism Please give sources for this, this is new to me.
WhiteSage777 1 month ago
The problem is the banking system. All roads lead to the "Money Changers" who create the money out of thin air and want to enslave us. The first part of this goon's speech is correct. However...technology will eventaully enslave us but is not the real problem.
Guys...if you care about your country...read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" and get informed on what is really going on. Us "Sheeple" better wake up.
ScrewSocialism 2 months ago
Yeah it all sounds perfect but there is good AND Evil people, Psychopaths like the leaders of today who are not content with life unless they are murdering millions of people, add the Sociopaths to that and where do you go from there.You have to accept reality,A cashless society The NWO WOULD LOVE THAT.
bladerunner123ish 2 months ago
@bladerunner123ish I Disagree without Money, there would be less greed and less worry, if each of use did what we naturally do best and contributed to the whole there would be less crime and less mental illness
WhiteSage777 2 months ago
@WhiteSage777 It does not matter if its cash, food, oil ,electric whatever,its peoples greed, A good leader leads people back to themselves you have to cure the Psychopaths and sociopaths before you can do anything, Stand this Guy next to Ron Paul and you will be able to Detect the Truth from the Lie. The NWO want a cashless society with bio chip implants, Imagine if Every human being had the mark 666 on there Bio Chip it would be the best trick the Devil ever played!!
bladerunner123ish 2 months ago
@bladerunner123ish Peter Joseph is not for NWO, nor is he for such things as Biochipping , where are you getting this information? BTW I like Ron Paul 2, why are you pitting these 2 against each other?
WhiteSage777 1 month ago
Take the brilliant words of George Carlin "the illusion of choice", apply Scientific principles to the ability to THRIVE as a race, end up with the human species colonizing the stars.. NOT because we are dumping "money" into " space programs" but because we are a species of explorers, inventors, scientists, artists, poets, and so many more useful skills. Every one of us has a brilliance which would become clear if we rid ourselves of everything that holds us in the thrall of the oligarchy.
knowescapex 2 months ago
Combine "perma culture" and Jacques Fresco's "venus project" idea....
JDoubleOP 2 months ago
It's all about consciousness. Forget old indoctrinated false values and (R)evolve. Learn from the past and let's make next step in evolution ---> the technological people.
JDoubleOP 2 months ago
Pity Zeitgeist is run by an ex Communist and the founder wrote a book on how a NWO and a one world Governmen would be greatt!!
bladerunner123ish 2 months ago
@bladerunner123ish you can't look at his ideas as something new and relavent to this day and age? why do you have to give it a label and compare it older systems that didn't work? the basic idea of communism is actually pretty ideal, it is just that it never turns out that ways, it actually turns to Dictatorship. The idea of a United one world Government which allows for the world to work together and in unity while respecting boundaries, how is that wrong? it isn't the idea that is 'wrong"
AlienBeauty1 2 months ago
@AlienBeauty1 it is that how it really has panned out in the past thus far did not work. Because the people who sell the NWO are in reality not for a world who works together , they just want to use and Rule the world. Don't get stuck on words and labels those do not have meaning , the intent and ideas are what should be focused on.
AlienBeauty1 2 months ago
@AlienBeauty1 Peter bashed one world government in his first movie and here he is endorsing a system which requires it. He has no clue about economics.
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
@FitnessByMatt Maybe so but his tought are worth thinking about. You do not have to endorse them completely but something is going fundamentally wrong. At least Peter makes you think.
bonosbones 1 month ago
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We are all on a moving train that is very difficult to stop. The engineers are the upper 1%, and even if the passengers pull the cord, it will take generations to stop. If the bailout had not occurred, and those at the top were allowed to collapse due to their own criminal behavior, then perhaps we might be at a place for change. Unfortunately the greatest transference of economic wealth has been shifted upward. Zeitgeist (the original) was great, but they are naive and overly idealistic!
FalseFlag369 2 months ago
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We are all on a moving train that is very difficult to stop. The engineers are the upper 1%, and even if the passengers pull the cord, it will take generations to stop. If the bailout had not occurred, and those at the top were allowed to collapse due to their own criminal behavior, then perhaps we might be at a place for change. Unfortunately the greatest transference of economic wealth has been shifted upward. Zeitgeist (the original) was great, but they are naive and overly idealistic!
FalseFlag369 2 months ago
We are all on a moving train that is very difficult to stop. The engineers are the upper 1%, and even if the passengers pull the cord, it will take generations to stop. If the bailout had not occurred, and those at the top were allowed to collapse due to their own criminal behavior, then perhaps we might be at a place for change. Unfortunately the greatest transference of economic wealth has been shifted upward. Zeitgeist (the original) was great, but they are naive and overly idealistic!
FalseFlag369 2 months ago
We are all on a moving train that is very difficult to stop. The engineers are the upper 1%, and even if the passengers pull the cord, it will take generations to stop. If the bailout had not occurred, and those at the top were allowed to collapse due to their own criminal behavior, then perhaps we might be at a place for change. Unfortunately the greatest transference of economic wealth has been shifted upward. Zeitgeist (the original) was great, but they are naive and overly idealistic!
FalseFlag369 2 months ago
Disheartening to see so many people who just don't seem to understand that this is simply PRACTICAL - that is if we want to survive as a species. I do.
antidj00 2 months ago 9
No thanks! These guys always sound great, but in the end they are coming for your shit, and going to tell you how to live your life. Sounds like prison to me.
droidsURlooking4 2 months ago
the movie gattaca is tzg. only the eugenecist genetic elite will get the best life has to offer. if you havent been exterminated during the initial nwo depopulation that is.
ithinkyou 2 months ago
@Lakopa8 you should research how tzm is the perfect example of problem reaction solution. implode the global economy, wait for eveybody to lose it, then call for a world govt. tzm embodies the new world order. sure itll be high tech but most likely only the elites will get to enjoy it. cash based or resource based. you still got the same people at the top of the pyramid.
ithinkyou 2 months ago
The bible says a prophet has no honor is his own land remember that before you criticize someone for having an idea for greater good but no support
Mr420Panda 2 months ago
sorry to tell you folks but the system is irreparably broken , we have decended into fascism and this crazy marxist bullshit will never fly thank god or fix anything, im afraid the only remedy now is massive bloodshed
bulletproof2353 2 months ago
@bulletproof2353 You really should do some research into what Marxism really is, and what the Zeitgeist Movement is about.
Lakopa8 2 months ago
this movement is BEGGING for a public ridiculing on south park ,i cant wait for the south park episode
bulletproof2353 2 months ago
@bulletproof2353 Oh no he is working towards a better society for all of us. Seriously what is wrong with that? If you don't agree with him then make an argument...
23lFrench 2 months ago
@bulletproof2353 I can't wait to see how South Park depicts erroneous arguments against this movement. lol...just laughing thinking about it.
S0up3rD0up3r 2 months ago
@bulletproof2353 South park.. lol.
neverdieND 2 months ago
if you dont believe me then just check out the SOPA bill video on my favorites on my page it is a great example of how this all works and why to the average person it dont seem to make sense at first glance and on the surface of it, though the sopa thing goes a bit deeper,its really the hegalian dialectic at work ,they created the problem so they could present the solution ,and the soluton is to use the government o shut down all their competition and give them total control of the internet
bulletproof2353 2 months ago
that they will be exempt and that the real purpose of the regulation is to use the government as enforcers and the legislations to shut down their competition ,they got to be monopolies not despite of the government, but BECAUSE OF IT, the government is like the mafia ,or the corporations are like the mafia and the government is their leg breaker
bulletproof2353 2 months ago
@craftymiscreant the problem is that we dont have capitaism here ,we have fascism, the merger of state and corporate power, the corporations own the government and they own the media ,they own it all ,and the government dont pass any legislation to help anyone but the big corporations, the big corporations use the government and lobby for more regulation that seems to alot of people like it would be a crack down on themsleves,but in fact they want it and are pushing for it because they know
bulletproof2353 2 months ago
he even looks like a fucking commie ,look at him he looks like a commie douche ,he looks like lenin or some other bolshevik
bulletproof2353 2 months ago
tzm is just a new spin on bullshit marxist propaganda you ahve to be a fucking moron to not see that,anyone who has actually read huxley and brave new world and the communist manifesto can figure out this is bullshit
bulletproof2353 2 months ago
I really like Peter's solution, but we are not spiritual enough for that, yet.
ASGxZ 2 months ago
To be free, you don't need a republic, a democracy, or any other political social system. To be truly free, you don't need to submit to anything or anybody. Thats true freedom.
CraftyMiscreant 2 months ago
stupid br00d
iaretehleet 2 months ago
This is already happening... ZGM is just speeding it up with educating the people about it
adfadfewfrewafawefaw 2 months ago
Hey commies: Russian famine of 1921.
It has been tried.
It doesn't work.
A stateless world with free markets, however, allows your gang of nitwits to accept people into your ranks, if they join you voluntarily. Although it isn't likely they will still want to after seeing the free society at work.
sheepOG 2 months ago
@sheepOG Resource based economy is nothing close to Communism. I will even go far to say that Fascism is closer to Communism. You know why? Because they are both MONETARY systems. ALL CORRUPT! Even the free monetary system is corrupt. I can guarantee you that in our life time, Capitalism will prove to fail. Just like all the other systems on the left or right side of the political spectrum
arc175 2 months ago
@arc175 Left and Right are merely two sides of the same coin which is minted for the purpose of dividing humanity. Both corrupt both failing and dependent on greed to function.
TelecasterLPGTop 2 months ago
@arc175 So, TZM is not, like communism, an ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production?
Then you can probably tell me how TZM is going to create this "abundance" which makes everything free, and what or who will be responsible for allocating those resources - both these problems resulted in empty stores in the USSR. I'm sure you also have a replacement for the price mechanism that TZM lacks.
sheepOG 2 months ago 2
@sheepOG Communism IS NOT MONEYLESS! It's a monetary system (requires money to work) It has a central banking system which = CORRUPT! Just like Capitalism, Socialism, etc. You should really look into this more before comparing The Zeitgeist Movement towards Communism... And btw, Fascism is more like Communism than TZM because it's 'monetary'
arc175 2 months ago
@arc175 "The Russians, after trying an approach to the communist moneyless economy in their "War Communism" shortly after the Bolshevik Revolution, reacted in horror as they saw the Russian economy heading to disaster. Even Stalin never tried to revive it, and since World War II the East European countries have seen a total abandonment of this communist ideal and a rapid move toward free markets, a free price system, profit-and-loss tests, and a promotion of consumer affluence." - Rothbard
sheepOG 2 months ago
@arc175 And I have a better understanding of collectivism and free markets than you do apparently.
Capitalism, as in free markets, does not allow for central banks (central anything really).
Fascism, what we have now, is the deformed cousin of socialism, which in turn is the bastard son of communism. The differences are mostly in wording. One big difference is that the former two are statist forms of collectivism.
sheepOG 2 months ago