Ralph Nader on Single-Payer Healthcare

[LiberalJerseyman]

I love how Nader was talking about a single-payer system in 2000, while the other candidate were busy debating stupid things.

[emildmello]

Actually, Obama supports single-payer health insurance / Medicare for all.

[dave777blaster]

Ralph Nader an All American Hero

those who continually vote for the pretty faces Clinton Bush and Obama will find that they have elected empty shells.

Americans are their own worse enemy it have been proven at the polls time and again.

[jgposner]

Polls are B.S. You can support any position possibly concieved with a cleverly worded poll.

[Askadinya]

audio is too low

[PingHammer]

> How FAR will Gov't allow you to see a Doc when you are terminal before they cut you off? This IS REAL people and it doe NOT work.

[fusionpit]

Well if we get a system like the Britons have, the Government will spend hundreds of thousands if not millions to keep someone who WILL die in a few months alive.

[hellraiserheights]

This is ridiculous. I have had numerous operations (important to my life, mind you), and I have never had a single problem. I am on Medicaid and I can tell you, first-hand, that government health insurance isn't as bad as it's purported to be by the fringe-right.

[MrSuperpunch019]

The right wing scare the hell out of me.

[JMBare]

@hellraiserheights Hey, your welcome.. I'm glad I could support your "free" healthcare, while ALSO paying for my own!! It "isn't as bad as it's purported to be..." because your "free" healthcare does not currently have to remain solvent, as the majority of Americans are NOT on this system and the organizers of the program can continually dip into the tax coffers when needed.. If we were to ever move to a single payer, the costs would skyrocket and abuse would get worse. nothing "free" has value

[hellraiserheights]

@JMBare

Yeah, JMB, I don't think you should have to pay for your own health insurance. I wholeheartedly believe health care should be subsidized by the public dime, furnished through progressive taxation. Market health insurance is antithetical to health care. The profit motive is in not providing the service they're supposed to provide. Therefore, you have market failure. The fraud could be controlled and so could the abuse. The taxes would keep such a program solvent.

[hellraiserheights]

@JMBare

Also, don't you dare condescend to me. I'm not poor by choice. I'm going to school to make something of myself. If it were up to me, I wouldn't need to be on this system. Conservatives don't understand that in the capitalist system, regardless of whether or not you're responsible, you have winners and losers. Forgive me that I do not subscribe to Social Darwinism and believe in compassion for all.

When I become a lawyer, my friend, it will be an honor to pay for your social security.

[JMBare]

@hellraiserheights "Anyone going to his neighbor's home and taking his money at gunpoint, regardless of all the wonderful, selfless things he promised to do with it, would be promptly arrested as a thief. But for some reason it is considered morally acceptable when government does that very thing." -- Ron Paul, The Revolution: A Manifesto, 2008

[hellraiserheights]

@JMBare

Justified selfishness. That's Paul.

[thereinliestherib]

@hellraiserheights When you become a lawyer, my ass. A lawyer would understand that individual's have rights transcending majoritarian tyranny. Such as when a massive HC industry finances democrats to go out and force the cost liability for an obese, smoking, abyssmally unhealthy population onto the young and healthy, especially students like yourself. You're against your own practical interests and basic rights. You're either perfect for law school, or perfectly wrong for it, LOL.

[hellraiserheights]

@thereinliestherib

Do not equate those who care for social justice with Democrats. Democrats, like Republicans, are shills for market fundamentalist ideas that promote an unhealthy societal stratification. Under a Single-Payer system, the costs of medical care wouldn't fall to the healthy, they would fall to the wealthy in a correct, progressive system of taxation. Needless and wasteful private bureaucracy would be eliminated as a public program operates under lower administrative costs.

[thereinliestherib]

@hellraiserheights Yes, but covering individuals from the liability for their own actions only encourages bad behavior and negligence, which is the primary why our HC is already so expensive (abyssmal national health). I fail to see how laying that burden on easy-target populations (whether its the "rich," or the young/healthy, as Obamacare does) fixes anything. A much better system would be freer consumer choice, taxes on unhealthy products/services, and rates adjusted to personal health.

[hellraiserheights]

@thereinliestherib While it is counted among the reasons, "abysmal national health" is not the primary reason for the expensiveness of our health care system. It's a combination of factors ranging from the business model of market health insurance to the incentives for "over-care". A public system, with the profit motive absent, accountable to the public, with low administrative costs would insure the whole of the public while reducing the percentage of health spending in the greater economy.

[thereinliestherib]

@hellraiserheights What absurd propaganda. You gotta be one indoctrinated fool to look at the obesity problem in America, and its direct causal correlation with rising cost curves, and blame the problem on mythical private conspiracies. Obamacare does nothing to decrease costs through personal accountability, virtually guaranteeing increases in private revenues and worsening health stats. Go to your local Walmart and find me a half dozen healthy people in the entire store grounds. Honestly.

[PingHammer]

Single payer will not work and here is why. Ask yourself this very simple question "What Governmet ran system is successful today?"

> Education is failing

> Social Security will be bankrupt

> Medicare is VERY restrictive and is extremely limited. My dad was on it and died from brain cancer.

> How are the roads and highways in your town? enough said!

> Where will the money comefrom to pay for it all? Your higher taxes

> How FAR will Gov't allow you to see a

[derekharlan]

Don't let the government run it, just fund it . They can use the tax dollars they're already wasting on things such as NASA, Dept of Homeland Security, the War. If they were held accountable for the amount of our money that they waste, our taxes could be lowered and still pay for healthcare for all. Then we could focus on the hidden reason for the healthcare problem.....ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Go to any hospital in USA right now and tell me how many illegal immigrants are there getting free care.

[iNNoCeNttDReAMs]

@derekharlan

Wait wait... are you saying that our "hidden problems" are illegal immigrants getting free care at our hospitals??

ROFL what a fucking ignorant comment.

[hellraiserheights]

Education is failing because of lack of a Uniform system and funding

Social Security will be bankrupt? How? Facts, please.

I'm on Medicaid, and I'm very, very healthy and I've never had a problem before in my life.

The roads and highways are the way they are because of obstructionist efforts from the right.

[nohealthcare62]

Prs.OBAMA has lied to the people who voted him into office No Health Care and No end to Wars call several times a day tell Obama HR676 Now and stop ignoring the invisable people in the USA !202-456-1414

[xpo50]

he said he would, but i dont recall him giving a specific time frame. therefore we cannot judge what he did or did not do until after his second term

[travelfar22]

> Do FIREMEN ask you if you have fire insurance before they put out the fire!?

> Does a SCHOOL ask you if you have education insurance?

> Do POLICE ask you if you have police insurance before responding?

> Answer: > NO, and it's Government run like single-payer should be.

> HEALTH is what we value most, and should be at the top of that list!

[PingHammer]

Reply for School --> Public School is FAILING

Reply for Firemen --> Have you called 911 ever

Reply for Police --> Budget cuts and rising crime

DO YOU ACTUALLY REALLY THINK THIS WORKS?

[travelfar22]

18,000 Americans WILL DIE next year.

47+ Million Americans HAVE NO health care!

U.S. citizens are in a Health Care CRISIS because profit and health do not mix as the greedy insurance companies have proven.

I don't have to ask you, I KNOW insurance companies don't work.

[travelfar22]

The MAJORITY of Americans want Single-Payer like Canada!

Relying on an "industry" as the health care system is now,

assures you will be considered a mere NUMBER!

>18,000 Americans WILL DIE next year who lack access

to health care with our present health care "industry"!

*Listen* to what Nader is saying in the video.

[Modeltrainguy]

THIS is one of the reasons why Obama will not debate Nader. Obama is NOT for Single Payer Healthcare. Obama knows he's licked when Nader asks him that and more...

Obama is nothing but a FRAUD if he will NOT debate Ralph Nader.

Come On Obama! Tell the American People what you REALLY support!

ENOUGH Talk! Debate Nader! NOW!!

[nowellian]

The majority of Americans have supported single payer universal health care like in Europe for decades.

In our elections the only candidates talking about what most people support are said to be unelectable.

Our corporate run elections are the joke!

Let Nader debate Obama and McCain!

[PassTheSalt008]

I'm for a single payer system. Absolutely.

[TheNormChannel2]

brilliant