JFK - SECRET SERVICE ORDERS STAND DOWN - NO PROTECTION - HIGH TREASON

[Allanlegacy43]

No doubt, Oswald was the lone gunmen, no one else in the government was involved, the generals and the bankers all loved Kennedy. 911 was exactly as the government say it was, 19 men with box cutters and a man in a cave on kidney dialises overtook the most powerful military country in the world, just got lucky that's all. And IRAN is going to bomb America, FOX news said so, so we have to bomb them first. Don't ask questions and never doubt the government, they love you and would never lie!

[abennett4]

Forty-five minutes after the shooting in Dealey Plaza, Lee Harvey Oswald is the one who just happened to murder Dallas police officer J.D. Tippit on Tenth Street near Patton in the Oak Cliff area, only about nine-tenths of a mile from his rooming house.

[snag66]

vincent bugliosi is a fucking faggot douche bag piece of shit. anyone that believes his fucking drivel should be shot from the front and back!

[autoad]

@snag66 Your contempt for Bugliosi says there must be something interesting about the book. I'm going to buy it and read it!!

(Just kidding...I already have and it's sensational!)

[jec1ny]

What evidence? You produced none. If your idea of proving a case is just cussing when someone asks for evidence you are going to have a hard time. Have you read the Warren Report? I have never met a conspiracy enthusiast who has. They get all their info from conspiracy books. Read Bugliosi's book, unless you are afraid of a contrary point of view.

[jec1ny]

What a load of bunk. No one knows what was being said in that seen. For all anyone knows they might have been discussing the ballgame. What is known for a fact is that JFK had given specific orders to keep the Secret Service off the back of his car. He did not like being crowded by them. This is just more tin foil hat conspiracy nonsense that as usual is not supported by a shred of evidence.

[jaroncreed]

@jec1ny how about this evidence.... On Nov 9th 1963 less than 2 weeks before the assassination Joseph Milteer was talking in his apartment on an FBI recording about shooting Kennedy from a high rise building. 2nd if you think the headshot came from the rear I don't even want to continue this conversation

[jec1ny]

@jaroncreed The Secret Service then as now investigates thousands of threats against the president. Some are serious many are not. Two movies were produced in the preceding decade that purported to show assassination by rifle. Is that evidence of a conspiracy? You are grasping at straws.

[jec1ny]

@jaroncreed There is no evidence that any shots came from anywhere other than the Book Depository building. Please spare me any silliness about backward motion of the president after the fatal shot etc. Anyone remotely familiar with forensics and ballistics knows that high velocity bullet impacts coupled with the destruction of the brain and central nervous system can produce violent motions on the part of the target.

[jec1ny]

@jaroncreed Before you continue to reach for more straws, I really would suggest you read Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy by Vincent Bugliosi. That was what finally cured me of my conspiracy mania. He pretty much destroys all of the major conspiracy theories. Caution: It is not light reading.

[jaroncreed]

@jec1ny look at how defensive you are getting because you fail to disprove the evidence of a shot from the front. NOT where Oswald was at the time according to the OFFICIAL REPORT! What part of the LIE do you not understand... I guess it doesn't matter, you're a sheep who believes everything the TEE VEE tells you to. I'm done fuck off

[OnlyOneTyping]

this link was meant to be Stroke of fate.

[elysianfury]

If it was my job to guard the president I wouldn't leave him like that guy did

[dgl1962]

The Kennedy's are royalty to the democrats, more like a cult.

If Reagan (or any other republican) were assassinated like this, we'd see the video played as a parody for laughter on SNL and most other liberal ass kissing outlets in Hollywood.

[SaveTheWorldRadio]

@dgl1962 Shut the fuck up idiot. This isn't "democrat" vs "republican" This isn't a fucking pro wrestling contest. Grow up.

[dgl1962]

@SaveTheWorldRadio You shut the fuck up shitforbrains, anyone who believes Kennedy was murdered by the government is the type that watches fake wrestling (like you).

Stupidass.

[scouttroop291]

in side job proff and think about this in the words in ss( the avance teams

have 3 snipers teams in place at all times and all President events) but i a quck

this is a duck siting duck for a missfire or was it sorry dont ask me to drink the koolaid rename this to HOW TO STEAL A KINGDOM yes 9/11 in side job

fuck you and the men who did this

[FavogTheDeathKnight]

its not a documentary its just some crackpot taking some meaningless video and making up some crazy explanation for it after the fact.

[SaveTheWorldRadio]

@FavogTheDeathKnight You have to be a full fledged imbecile to not see the secret service officer throw his hands up in confusion.

[FavogTheDeathKnight]

@SaveTheWorldRadio Who knows what he's doing or why he's doing it. It's easy to make shit up to back up some totally nonsensical conspiracy theory. Oswald assassinated Kennedy because he was a megalomaniac who craved attention and wanted to be famous. BTW I bet you didn't know that Oswald had gotten a job at the Texas school book repository months before Kennedy decided to make the trip to Dallas. So how could he have known that Kennedy would be driving right by it?

[SaveTheWorldRadio]

@FavogTheDeathKnight Who knows what he's doing? He's backing off of the limo, and throwing his hands up in what is viewed universally around the world as a gesture of confusion/exasperation. Anyone with a pair of eyes and a brain can see that in the video. Throwing ones hands up or shrugging is seen globally, in many cultures, if not all of them, as a way to express confusion or exasperation. Why are you pretending to be incapable of seeing that? Debate the significance

[SaveTheWorldRadio]

@FavogTheDeathKnight of the gesture, don't deny that the gesture took place as the officer was ordered to back off. that just makes you seem like a jackass.

[Johnnylightning93]

Anybody know the name of this documentary?

[SteveMG500]

"In my history in the military and taking orders, Ive NEVER looked so baffled by being relieved of a duty..."

Well, my reading of the history of militaries - US and others - certainly tells me that orders get messed up and the chain of command loses control of things.

That's certainly not unique.

Once again, go through the Warren Commission Report and read the exchanges between Specter and the agents. It's all there.

[dynamic21150]

@SteveMG500 your gullible... period, sorry your so easily swayed

[SteveMG500]

Dynamic21150: If you read the Warren Commission Report, the head of the Secret Service told the Commission that he was ordered by JFK after the previous trip to Miami where the limousine was used that he (the Presdient) didn't want the SS to ride alongside the limo.

And that was why - as we see in this tape - the agents were ordered off the limo. The head of the SS that day was passing along JFK's orders.

Again, this is all in the Warren Commission Report.

[SteveMG500]

The order to the Secret Service to "stand down" and not ride alongside or on the President's limousine was given by John F. Kennedy himself. He told the Secret Service following his previous trip to Miami - where the limousine was used - that he didn't want the agents riding alongside. He felt that it limited his ability to have contact with the public and looked bad.

No conspiracy unless you think JFK was part of it.

[dynamic21150]

@SteveMG500 SO you're telling me, that the order was given by JFK? doesnt appear so in this video... if he gave the order EARLIER, THEY WOULDNT HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE... unless of course these agents just blew off an earlier order from the PRESIDENT and had to be called off AGAIN....

[dynamic21150]

@SteveMG500 In my history in the military and taking orders, Ive NEVER looked so baffled by being relieved of a duty... and if your claim (JFK ordered the stand down) is true, dont you think it would have been much more anticipated? I dont buy it, the order given in Miami by JFK and the orders given here shoud not be confused.

[tacikcim]

oldmac1 - I don't believe in conspiracy theories but I do believe that the agent looked puzzled after he was called off. You mean that with all those taller buildings there shouldn't have been better coverage. I am questioning two things: Why no agents in a city with tall buildings? Why does that agent look puzzled as I mentioned before? My opinion is that there was poor coverage in an area where they knew he had enemies and the should be on guard for anything. We lost our president - shame.

[oldmac1]

@tacikcim Please remember a couple of important things that people who claim to be experts on the secret service --like Vince Palamara -- like to ignore. This was nearly 50 years ago in an agency that was far different from the Secret Service of today. A completely unarmored and open parade car for instance. Very limited intel capabilities.And very limited manpower. Was the agent perplexed? Possibly. The previous day he had ridden where Ready did. I feel terrible for all these agents.

[smartification1]

Another outrageous instance is the assassination attempt of Ronald Regan who also spoke out against the Rothschild gang indirectly. Jody Foster told the government about the crazy guy who told her of his plans. Why wasn't he under surveillance? Why was he allowed to the same place as Regan and follow through on his threat? I find this to be completely outrageous!! What this says to me is that the Rothschild gang has control of the Secret Service??!!!

[tokersrule]

@smartification1 The attempted assassination on ronald reagan was seriously the only REAL attempt at assassinating a president without government knowledge, that and that crazy girl from the manson gang

[oldmac1]

@smartification1 You don't know what you're talking about. Jody Foster did no such thing. I get really tired of people posting ridiculous stuff like this

[karenw0126]

@oldmac1 Actually, dipshit, Jodie Foster did give the threatening letters to the FBI. But as Jodie Foster said years later "If someone wants to kill you, they will.

[oldmac1]

@karenw0126 Absolutely NOT true. Jodie Foster turned over NO letters prior to the assassination attempt. She shared her concerns about "crazy John" with her friends and shared letters with her friends. She did NOT turn over any letters to the FBI before the attempt. You are confusing the facts.

[karenw0126]

@oldmac1 She most certainly did give those threating letters to the Feds. Perhaps you need to revisit the info from the trial of "crazy John" and then you can give me an apology. I'm waiting...

[oldmac1]

@karenw0126 Ma'am. I know it quite well. Your contention is that she turned over the letter BEFORE the assassination (going to your point that someone should have known in advance). That is not true. She absolutely did not. She received a final letter from Hinkley that he wrote the day or day before he shot Reagan. She turned THAT over after the assassination. I believe she also provided at least one other letter at that time, but NONE before the attack. YOU should go read up.

[oldmac1]

@karenw0126 that letter, by the way, was the first and only time -- according to Foster -- that he made any mention of harming anyone in his letters to her. In it, he told Foster that he expected to die in his attack. All of his other letters, according to Foster, were sappy love letters. They were annoying and she actually disposed of most of them

[oldmac1]

@karenw0126 Youtube doesn't allow page links. But do this. Google "Jodie Foster Hinkley letter" Click on the link that begins "lawumck" Here are the two correspondences that Jodie Foster turned over to the FBI -- both AFTER the assassination. I can't even find references to other letters, but my recollection is she told authorities she believed he'd written her other innocuous love letters, which she did not keep

[oldmac1]

@karenw0126 And of course, check out the date on the letter in which he talked about killing Reagan. Written and mailed on the day of the assassination. She received it several days later and immediately turned it over.

So rather than an apology, I hope I've provided you the facts that you were in need of. Let me know if you have any other questions.

[barmtraiI]

@karenw0126 oldmac1 is a lying asshole.

[squirrels777]

how do u guys kno all of this stuff????

[tacikcim]

If Lawton wasn't assigned to the Presidential limousine the why wasn't there a replacement after Lawton was called off?

[oldmac1]

@tacikcim "replacement?" The agent on the right front running board of the follow up car (Jack Ready) was the agent who -- when called to or when he felt it necessary -- was the agent who would position himself at the back right of the presidential limousine. Do not believe this crap that this agent was "called off" as if there was some plot to leave the president exposed. They were leaving the airport, about to gain speed. No agent was supposed to be on the back of the car.

[neilzep]

TREASON...COUP

[oldmac1]

There are a couple problems ... the agent on the right rear is Don Lawton. He was NOT assigned to the motorcade that day. He was assigned to stay at Love Field. CLint Hill was not on the president's detail. He was on the first lady's.

But for some people, facts are just inconvenient.

[tokersrule]

@oldmac1 Regardless, its pretty factual that JFK being killed was an inside job, just like most things like that in the US

[oldmac1]

@tokersrule

I had this bumper sticker made .... let me know if you want one

"Old conspiracy theories never die ... Or at least that's what they WANT you to think"