We had the hoods when we had created a tent city with around 48 members plus Ti and Do then. We had a camp on large ranchlands in Wyoming and one in Texas that Ti & Do leased from owners. The hoods were hot to wear at times but we had to tough out certain discomforts. Ti Do were never abusive. They were always kind and gentle though nor did they act familiar or chummy with anyone, not even to one another. When an airplane flew overhead instruction was to take the hood off to not raise concerns.
If there were "cones" it was after I left or being silly, but perhaps this is referring to the grey "hoods" we wore for a few months in the early 80's. They said they were to help us cease influencing one another by facial expressions and gender id. We were seeking gender blindness and color blindness & racial blindness. We wore grey jumpsuits then too. The hoods had a rectangular metal mesh screen to look through. It was polyester cloth so easy to breath/talk though though we seldom spoke then.
We did touch one another if we had a task to do so. Like haircutting or chiropractic adjustment or medical need. On rare occasions Do instigated we hugged him and/or fellow students. This was all to help maintain our celebacy of mind and body. There were no real supervisors though tasks had primary and secondary positions according to experience with that task. There were "overseers" and "helpers". I was an often an assigned overseer but it didn't elevate me above others, including now.
Rio was taken out of the Class Grad photo in part 4 of the new HG doc because he did not graduate with Class. He dropped out, so I removed him from the Grad picture & airbrushed over it. I don't believe he had some 'special assignment' to do something for the Class "outside of the Class". He just didn't want to commit suicide (as ignorance calls it) with the rest of the Class & wanted an excuse to leave. Simple.
What they called the many membered Evolutionary Level Above Human, synonymous with Kingdom of God in the Heavens wern't really an "Alien Race" as we today think of aliens, nor are they genine extra terrestrials. Most of the reports of space aliens are human equivilents from a prior earth civilization or different near star systems. A Next Level vehicle has no digestive or reproductive systems. Humans found bodies in wreckages they thought were robots as crashes were how the crew came.
According to Rio, while he was still there a bunch of classmates all on one night received a physical visit from a couple beings. Some thought it was a dream. Others knew it wasn't a dream. This was also a big confirmation of their exit plan as Do was very, very particular in seeking to do the will of his Older Member, Ti. We had a saying, "if in doubt don't", though that can become an excuse to not take baby steps in a new direction. It has to do most with things that are not reversible.
They all did voluntarily choose to stay in the classroom and exit in that way. Rio proved that as he left some weeks before their exit because he didn't want to exit. We were often asked if we wanted to stay in the group. We were offerred $1000 to leave in 1991. I was given $600 and a plane ticket wherever I wanted to go in 1994 though didn't leave for the money. I document why/how I left in my youtube videos. I bascially broke my vows of celebacy & could not regain control so decided to leave.
Yes the Hale Bopp comet was to them the Sign or Token they realized they were looking for even back in 1975. And yes, they did hear of the documentation of the companion object in it's tail that japanese astronomers filmed before the comet went behind the sun and emerged without it visible though still showing two tails. It wasn't important to them if there was no companion. They new it was the timing of their exit. They did not have to wait or try to stimulate a branch davidian type exit.
The Suicide is the ultimate show of faith in the present Older member at a time when the main Luciferian Space Alien strategy is to complicate, confuse, redirect, misinform, distort, dilute, fill people up with pleasure seeking and fulfillment in service to Mammon, and even just to ignore any hint of a real Evolutionary Physical Kingdom Level Above Human (Gods). For years they hoped humans would bump them off as they didn't like it here. Too selfish, crude and snakelike deceiving.
This is where the idea of "saved" comes in as after any member of the Next Level with this type of task physically leaves their incarnation (or takes their vehicle away in a cloud covered spacecraft), the test begins to see who can still believe in them, upon which those who prove themselves are "saved" in "paradise"(Do called "on ice"(not literally), but is the OT Abraham's Bosum, the persian "walled garden", aka a part of the internal invisible spacecraft that was moved from the Middle east.
At this time, those who can believe in who Ti and Do said they were and all of the info they brought (whether they understand it all or not), if they seek to be in Ti and Do's service, at this time by sharing the info they brought with others, and by doing so accepting the ramifications (hatred by others, though not wanting to be hated like some facsimili christians seem to enjoy), when they die, the Next Level will remove their soul from the masses just before the rest are recycled.
It is true that the only way to escape the recycling was to leave with them but that didn't mean that anyone who committed suicide for any reason would leave with them. It would have to be in belief in Do. If someone who did commit suicide began to believe in them, they would still have to be brought back to their own overcoming classroom to graduate. Even some who were with them wouldn't receive Next Level issue physical vehicles though may receive an in between vehicle & domestic like task.
When Ti left her physical body in what was called Cancer but Do said she "burned out her vehicle" due to the incredible amount of Mind it took to awaken Do and get him going in his task to midwife the student body that came with them (were saved souls from the Jesus time), as the planet had become so infested with weeds and misinformation, He then knew what she was saying. Her only concern in her last days was how Do would fare at her physical absence. He knew she was still with him thereafter.
And It was Do that said in the first couple years he and Ti were together, which was never sexual at all, He gave Ti a hard time until he realized by experiences that she was his significant elder, in other words His Heavenly Father and the Lord of the Old Testement. Ti told him she was here to just get his started and then she'd be returning. Do said he never understood that, even was puzzeled thinking "did she mean she was going back to her human family?".
In 1975 in what Do wrote and called Statement One, They said they were "from the same Family as Jesus was from". I clearly got this because I first saw them speak at the infamous Waldport, OR meeting when I spontaneously felt this was what I had been looking for (and I, then 24 was a spiritual seeker for 5 years prior, since leaving home in NY some 5 years before), though not looking for a second coming, but told my friends in Newport, OR I'd sat before the "eqivilent of Jesus".
Yes, Do did seperate from His students for a short time to have his vehicle's testicles removed surgically. Some 5 or 6 of the students also chose to do this. One of these students was Srrody who had the procedure done in 1993, before Do. I was a first hand witness to this which I describe in one of my youtube videos. It was not required, nor pressured. I wanted to have the procedure but Do told me No. It's a long story, but we were celebate for 18 yrs by then so what's the big deal?
Do was not a self proclaimed prophet. Ti, in the vehicle Bonnie Nettles, served to awaken him to the task they both agreed to do before they were in these two human vehicles. Thus Ti proclaimed who he was. Ti also told us that Do was the same Soul that did the tasks the record identifys as Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah & Jesus. Do never said he was Jesus as Jesus was the name given to the vehicle the Soul from the Kingdom of God took over to perform stage 2 of the 3 trimester soul birth program.
All of the existing members layed down (voluntarily killing) their physical containers/vehicles, physical human suits of clothing, bodies in March of 1997 & then within the next year 3 more who had been in and out of the group since 1975. There were other believers at that time but none chose to follow in their footsteps at that time. I asked Do(marshall applewhite), whom I'd had dreams of, in 2004 if I should prepare to lay down my life as they did and he came to me and said, "give your life".
I'm going to correct some of the points: It began as Human Individual Metamorposis (HIM) in a public way in April of 1975, though the two began to tell about who they realized they were, 1. From outer space, 2. Here to bring updates to the bible 3. Here to fulfill bible prophecy and then by 1974 realized they must be the Two Witnesses in Revelations 11. They began Total Overcomers Anonymous in the 1990's and then became Heaven's Gate in 1996. From the start members knew they must give their ALL.
The brief intermission seriously, I hardly think a mass suicide call for a brief intermission with corny music. fuck your horrible generalization of what happened. Have fun being lazy and coming short of the truth because I know thats why this video sucks.
@parsleysprigs Yes this was a major generalization but wasn't done horribly. I knew most all of those who laid down their lives and it's not at all a trivial event and I do feel for those that counted some of them their loved ones, but it was voluntary and very well considered in every detail over 24 years in ways I know all the details of. It seems like all the other mass suicides but is actually nothing like any others. I corrected this doc extensively if you want to see what really happened.
And the purpose of this video is what.....? Research that wasn't done right based on ignorance to further blind people. This video doesn't even define the true meaning of the word "cult".
-sorry but heaven's gate was founded long before the early 90's and there were two founders of it. how much did you actually read about this cult before you posted this?
@hitcan79 If you want to see the truth told in a way no one else is doing, either go to the heavensgate(dot)com site or to my youtube videos as I was with them from 1975 to 1994. This person did a terrible job with the facts. But no harm done as any mention brings attention to Them and wow were they different than ALL the rest which I can prove by hundreds of proves as you may know.
For which class was this?
MudHut67 1 month ago
I hope the catering was good. I liked the intermission too.
3spm 5 months ago
We had the hoods when we had created a tent city with around 48 members plus Ti and Do then. We had a camp on large ranchlands in Wyoming and one in Texas that Ti & Do leased from owners. The hoods were hot to wear at times but we had to tough out certain discomforts. Ti Do were never abusive. They were always kind and gentle though nor did they act familiar or chummy with anyone, not even to one another. When an airplane flew overhead instruction was to take the hood off to not raise concerns.
3spm 5 months ago
If there were "cones" it was after I left or being silly, but perhaps this is referring to the grey "hoods" we wore for a few months in the early 80's. They said they were to help us cease influencing one another by facial expressions and gender id. We were seeking gender blindness and color blindness & racial blindness. We wore grey jumpsuits then too. The hoods had a rectangular metal mesh screen to look through. It was polyester cloth so easy to breath/talk though though we seldom spoke then.
3spm 5 months ago
We did touch one another if we had a task to do so. Like haircutting or chiropractic adjustment or medical need. On rare occasions Do instigated we hugged him and/or fellow students. This was all to help maintain our celebacy of mind and body. There were no real supervisors though tasks had primary and secondary positions according to experience with that task. There were "overseers" and "helpers". I was an often an assigned overseer but it didn't elevate me above others, including now.
3spm 5 months ago
Rio was taken out of the Class Grad photo in part 4 of the new HG doc because he did not graduate with Class. He dropped out, so I removed him from the Grad picture & airbrushed over it. I don't believe he had some 'special assignment' to do something for the Class "outside of the Class". He just didn't want to commit suicide (as ignorance calls it) with the rest of the Class & wanted an excuse to leave. Simple.
XFChecker97 5 months ago
What they called the many membered Evolutionary Level Above Human, synonymous with Kingdom of God in the Heavens wern't really an "Alien Race" as we today think of aliens, nor are they genine extra terrestrials. Most of the reports of space aliens are human equivilents from a prior earth civilization or different near star systems. A Next Level vehicle has no digestive or reproductive systems. Humans found bodies in wreckages they thought were robots as crashes were how the crew came.
3spm 5 months ago
According to Rio, while he was still there a bunch of classmates all on one night received a physical visit from a couple beings. Some thought it was a dream. Others knew it wasn't a dream. This was also a big confirmation of their exit plan as Do was very, very particular in seeking to do the will of his Older Member, Ti. We had a saying, "if in doubt don't", though that can become an excuse to not take baby steps in a new direction. It has to do most with things that are not reversible.
3spm 5 months ago
They all did voluntarily choose to stay in the classroom and exit in that way. Rio proved that as he left some weeks before their exit because he didn't want to exit. We were often asked if we wanted to stay in the group. We were offerred $1000 to leave in 1991. I was given $600 and a plane ticket wherever I wanted to go in 1994 though didn't leave for the money. I document why/how I left in my youtube videos. I bascially broke my vows of celebacy & could not regain control so decided to leave.
3spm 5 months ago
Yes the Hale Bopp comet was to them the Sign or Token they realized they were looking for even back in 1975. And yes, they did hear of the documentation of the companion object in it's tail that japanese astronomers filmed before the comet went behind the sun and emerged without it visible though still showing two tails. It wasn't important to them if there was no companion. They new it was the timing of their exit. They did not have to wait or try to stimulate a branch davidian type exit.
3spm 5 months ago
The Suicide is the ultimate show of faith in the present Older member at a time when the main Luciferian Space Alien strategy is to complicate, confuse, redirect, misinform, distort, dilute, fill people up with pleasure seeking and fulfillment in service to Mammon, and even just to ignore any hint of a real Evolutionary Physical Kingdom Level Above Human (Gods). For years they hoped humans would bump them off as they didn't like it here. Too selfish, crude and snakelike deceiving.
3spm 5 months ago
This is where the idea of "saved" comes in as after any member of the Next Level with this type of task physically leaves their incarnation (or takes their vehicle away in a cloud covered spacecraft), the test begins to see who can still believe in them, upon which those who prove themselves are "saved" in "paradise"(Do called "on ice"(not literally), but is the OT Abraham's Bosum, the persian "walled garden", aka a part of the internal invisible spacecraft that was moved from the Middle east.
3spm 5 months ago
At this time, those who can believe in who Ti and Do said they were and all of the info they brought (whether they understand it all or not), if they seek to be in Ti and Do's service, at this time by sharing the info they brought with others, and by doing so accepting the ramifications (hatred by others, though not wanting to be hated like some facsimili christians seem to enjoy), when they die, the Next Level will remove their soul from the masses just before the rest are recycled.
3spm 5 months ago
It is true that the only way to escape the recycling was to leave with them but that didn't mean that anyone who committed suicide for any reason would leave with them. It would have to be in belief in Do. If someone who did commit suicide began to believe in them, they would still have to be brought back to their own overcoming classroom to graduate. Even some who were with them wouldn't receive Next Level issue physical vehicles though may receive an in between vehicle & domestic like task.
3spm 5 months ago
When Ti left her physical body in what was called Cancer but Do said she "burned out her vehicle" due to the incredible amount of Mind it took to awaken Do and get him going in his task to midwife the student body that came with them (were saved souls from the Jesus time), as the planet had become so infested with weeds and misinformation, He then knew what she was saying. Her only concern in her last days was how Do would fare at her physical absence. He knew she was still with him thereafter.
3spm 5 months ago
And It was Do that said in the first couple years he and Ti were together, which was never sexual at all, He gave Ti a hard time until he realized by experiences that she was his significant elder, in other words His Heavenly Father and the Lord of the Old Testement. Ti told him she was here to just get his started and then she'd be returning. Do said he never understood that, even was puzzeled thinking "did she mean she was going back to her human family?".
3spm 5 months ago
In 1975 in what Do wrote and called Statement One, They said they were "from the same Family as Jesus was from". I clearly got this because I first saw them speak at the infamous Waldport, OR meeting when I spontaneously felt this was what I had been looking for (and I, then 24 was a spiritual seeker for 5 years prior, since leaving home in NY some 5 years before), though not looking for a second coming, but told my friends in Newport, OR I'd sat before the "eqivilent of Jesus".
3spm 5 months ago
Yes, Do did seperate from His students for a short time to have his vehicle's testicles removed surgically. Some 5 or 6 of the students also chose to do this. One of these students was Srrody who had the procedure done in 1993, before Do. I was a first hand witness to this which I describe in one of my youtube videos. It was not required, nor pressured. I wanted to have the procedure but Do told me No. It's a long story, but we were celebate for 18 yrs by then so what's the big deal?
3spm 5 months ago
Do was not a self proclaimed prophet. Ti, in the vehicle Bonnie Nettles, served to awaken him to the task they both agreed to do before they were in these two human vehicles. Thus Ti proclaimed who he was. Ti also told us that Do was the same Soul that did the tasks the record identifys as Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah & Jesus. Do never said he was Jesus as Jesus was the name given to the vehicle the Soul from the Kingdom of God took over to perform stage 2 of the 3 trimester soul birth program.
3spm 5 months ago
All of the existing members layed down (voluntarily killing) their physical containers/vehicles, physical human suits of clothing, bodies in March of 1997 & then within the next year 3 more who had been in and out of the group since 1975. There were other believers at that time but none chose to follow in their footsteps at that time. I asked Do(marshall applewhite), whom I'd had dreams of, in 2004 if I should prepare to lay down my life as they did and he came to me and said, "give your life".
3spm 5 months ago
I'm going to correct some of the points: It began as Human Individual Metamorposis (HIM) in a public way in April of 1975, though the two began to tell about who they realized they were, 1. From outer space, 2. Here to bring updates to the bible 3. Here to fulfill bible prophecy and then by 1974 realized they must be the Two Witnesses in Revelations 11. They began Total Overcomers Anonymous in the 1990's and then became Heaven's Gate in 1996. From the start members knew they must give their ALL.
3spm 5 months ago
The brief intermission seriously, I hardly think a mass suicide call for a brief intermission with corny music. fuck your horrible generalization of what happened. Have fun being lazy and coming short of the truth because I know thats why this video sucks.
parsleysprigs 6 months ago
@parsleysprigs Yes this was a major generalization but wasn't done horribly. I knew most all of those who laid down their lives and it's not at all a trivial event and I do feel for those that counted some of them their loved ones, but it was voluntary and very well considered in every detail over 24 years in ways I know all the details of. It seems like all the other mass suicides but is actually nothing like any others. I corrected this doc extensively if you want to see what really happened.
3spm 5 months ago
funny subliminal frame attempt: "full credits". did it work?
TheRlkc 6 months ago
@TheRlkc It did indeed. Got 100% hah
SirStranjak 6 months ago
branch davidians were good heavens gate was bad
TheRivetthead 7 months ago
i can hear that you played alot of mgs 3 snake eater xD
MyKillintime 8 months ago
@MyKillintime Damn right. It made Starsailor one of my favourite bands
SirStranjak 8 months ago
And the purpose of this video is what.....? Research that wasn't done right based on ignorance to further blind people. This video doesn't even define the true meaning of the word "cult".
XFChecker97 9 months ago
@XFChecker97 The purpose is a semi tongue-in-cheek project I did for a religion class :P
SirStranjak 9 months ago
-sorry but heaven's gate was founded long before the early 90's and there were two founders of it. how much did you actually read about this cult before you posted this?
hitcan79 9 months ago
@hitcan79 I dont know why I said it was the 90's... It's meant to be around the 70's. And I said there's two, Marshall and Bonnie Applewhite.
SirStranjak 9 months ago
@hitcan79 If you want to see the truth told in a way no one else is doing, either go to the heavensgate(dot)com site or to my youtube videos as I was with them from 1975 to 1994. This person did a terrible job with the facts. But no harm done as any mention brings attention to Them and wow were they different than ALL the rest which I can prove by hundreds of proves as you may know.
3spm 5 months ago
I lol'd at the intermission xD
Deadlocked1228 9 months ago 5
@Deadlocked1228 Good man :p
SirStranjak 9 months ago
My favorite part was the intermission. Hilarious, despite the overall morbidity of the subject matter. What was it? Theme from The Dating Game?
gore53 11 months ago
@gore53 Its "Spanish Flea" by Herb Alpert
SirStranjak 11 months ago 2
Pfft Whats that in the top left...
griftorifto2 1 year ago
@griftorifto2 A watermark, warning you its too awesome.
SirStranjak 1 year ago