Pt 21/40 Hells Bells2

[MrJtr75]

In an interview with Alice Cooper, he said that true rock and rebellion is becoming a christian. He said that being a christian is being a true rock and roller.

[StevieWonder501]

If you're still going to go on about slavery, let me add some more verses on: 22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. 23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters...

[SpiritoftheEmperor]

John Bonham.

[PastorIblis]

To say after we die is a judgment by some bullshit God that we have NO PROOF even exists.

However IF some God thing would Judge our lives whose perception of reality would thhat jdgment be based on?

1. The Ancient Sociology of primative people that thought women were property and all kinds of crap we do not go by today?

2. The sociology of one group (IE CHRISTIANS)?

3. The perceptions of a being that is Magical in nature.

In short the whole judgment thing is BULLSHIT

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis It seems as though you're searching for answers,otherwise you wouldnt still be watching this series so far in.I'm not here to teach you or tell you something you might not have already heard. All I will say though is if you realy want to know,ask God to reveal Himself to you.If you really mean it and are in search for truth you will get your answer.God gives grace to the humble but resists the proud.Try it,just you and God.

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

I am not looking for a thing from blind sheep.\

I watched this series and i must say it shows Christian ignorance and prejudice better then anything else.

The term God is not one origianl to Christians so assuming as you people do that the use of that word means your sadistic deity is an arrogant assumption.

What is really amusing is you people seriously think an ancient book written by Ignorant people contains ALL the information about a deity.

LMAO!

Arrogance!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Okay mate. Just saying, if you are looking for truth, its as simple as asking. You dont have to read anything,study this and that,just ask and it shall be revealed. Thats if you wanna know. If you dont want to know,thats also fine,you can be sure of one thing...You will never know. A sure way to remain ignorant is to dismiss any claim without investigating any further.If you dont want to be ignorant, why dont you do some searching,I'm sure you'll find something.

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

Clearly you are living in fantasy land.

If you never have to read or study anytyhing why the hell do people go to college?

If knowledge will just magically pop into your hread why do i run circles around Christians like YOU?

Could it be maybe just maybe the fact that I have been researching and studying Theology, Philosophy, Sociology, just to name a few for the past 22 years!

You will not be Zapped with knowledge. If you want to learn something you must Study it!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Running circles around me???Ok you believe that if you wish.Theres no point in me getting involved in a theological debate in you because you are not trying to learn but rather to refute and argue.Thats no way to learn.Inorder to learn something you must study it objectively without bias,something wich you are not doing.So dont talk about me justifying everything when it is you who justifies your own beliefs and lifestyle by saying there is no God etc.How hypocritical of you...

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

I do understand the primative tribal mindset that is behind religion.

What i have found to be real is not a God persay but more of a cosmic consciousness that doesn't care about things as we do because it doesn't percieve reality as we do.

We see life and the universe via our five senses and our physical brain. The force behind the universe doesn't have these limitations and doesn't HATE!

Hate is lower in vibration as is jealousy!

Yahweh and the rest are HUMAN creations!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis You have said correctly we are limited by our 5 senses,that cosmic consciousness you speak of some would call the soul/spirit of a man,that which Freud may have called the "superego",that thing which deep down in all of us seeks perfection and high moral standards.That I believe is not limited by our 5 senses for it seeks what we could deem unattainable.However what you call a "force" is what I would call God,He is behind all this,beyond our 3 dimensions,beyond metaphysics

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

Then Why is this God's perception of right & wrong completely HUMAN based?

Why does this God have as his Tenth commandment that a Wife is the PROPERTY of her husband!

Why does this God advocate Slavery!

Why does this God kill Children!

Why does this God act completely human!

The reason is it was made up by man!

It is NOT the Divine because demanding worship from anything shows how you are power hungry!

Do you demand inchworms worship you?

Do you make commands for inchworms?

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Btw,I study all religions,I dont claim to know em all but just to let you know,I am a student of theology and I'm always willing to learn inorder to gain understanding.If you studied every religion in this way you could see clearly what each religion teaches and even understand it,thats if you really wanted to know.This will lead you to a true understanding of that religion.You cant criticise if you dont understand,unfortunately for you,you cannot understand God by just learning....

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

Why would i try to learn anything from someone that is blind to what philosophy your religion / God puts forward.  That philosophy of HATE towards those not just like you is socially destructive.

This video series shows clearly how Christians are blind and Ignorant to the big picture. That big picture being the masses of people are NOT effected by music to going out and doing violent acts.

More people are motivated by religion to kill then by music!

That is a FACT!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis I dont think you quite understand the philosophy of my beliefs at all mate.Jesus Himself taught to love your enemies and to pray for them.He prayed for those that crucufied Him.By this they shall know that you are my disciples,that you have love one for another.Anyone claiming to be a disciple of Jesus and showing no love is in the darkness and does not know Christ.I hate my sin,I dont hate myself,I hate peoples sin,I dont hate people.Many people profess to be of Christ but are not

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

Sin is a bullshit religious term that doesn't even mean mistakes or errors. Since women not being property is not a sin or a mistake. but the tenth commandment makes it very clear that a wife is the property of her husband.

We learn far more from our mistakes then from our successes.

To think you should never make a mistake means you think learning / improving is somehow wrong or evil.

This mindset is flawed in so many ways.

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Do you mind if I message you instead,having trouble following all these posts now. And I'm sure some people will be annoyed by the constant back and forth on many pages.

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

sure that is fine

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis If you could understand God by just reading and nothing else that would mean you could explain God.There are some things you cannot explain,like why you love,how you dream,emotions,character etc.Until you understand that God cannot be fathomed by our finite minds,you will never understand God.If you can explain God,then He would be no greater than you or I.I may not be able to answer all your questions,but the fact that you dont know exactly how it works doesnt change its reality

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

First of all there is no gender to what i call the Divine. Gender is a Physical thing!

Secondly do you seriously think the only knowledge or even a true picture of such could be contained in one cultures book? Are you that arrogant / ignorant?

Thirdly I've been tested multiple times by what has been leading me for over 20 years. The first was who will you follow us or THE CHURCH.

Then it was Us or Jesus / the bible

Then it was Us or Atheism / Science.

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis If gender were a physical thing,a man would only differ from a woman by a simple matter of biology,however men are much more than just testicles and women are much more than breasts.Changing ones physical appearance does not change gender,men and women are fundamentally different in thought,emotion and even in instinct.

You are right,the knowledge of God cannot be contained in one book,thats why we must pray to know Him more than a book.

I follow no man,but God.

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

Are you seriously this blind?

The physical differences lead to the social and life experience differences.

We are not just a product of our gender but also our enviroment which the gender will play a role in.

In general the base ways we think are the same.

If we are hungry we want to eat.

Both genders want love and acceptance.

It is Evolution / Society that puts in the roles of a man and a woman.

God is a sadistic myth used to control the weak minded!

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

The Divine / Cosmic Consciousness does not take a back seat to man made bullshit!

If you put some system of thought that we (Humans) have come up with over al else then you are spitting in the face of the higher force your claim to love.

What you sir love is NOT what is actually behind the universe but a system of control which MAN has made in order to have power over other people! You serve the CHURCH and pound their book which will blind you to what is real!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis I dont even go to a "church",which btw is actually impossible if you study what the church is,ekklesia,people with one mind called out for one purpose.Wherever these people are,they are the church,the people,not a government style structured institution which is sadly what most of us call the church today.The church is the people,of which I do love indeed.

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

The Church system is not the masses of asses but the religious leaders that have used fear and threats as a means of control.

The ones that dictate what is taught to the masses of asses that only know how to warm a pew with their ass is not the people but the leaders of that man made orginazation.

99.999999% of Christians do not know what is really written in the bible.

Do you know Jesus proclaimed Everyone will be salted with FIRE!

And advocated beating Slaves / Servants!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Many are called but few are chosen,the road is narrow and difficult,few will find it.I thought Jesus meant like a few hundred million,boy was I wrong.You might not know this but there is a movement/ revival goin on right now.Many are leaving these churches with tyranical leaders and flocking to God,not a building.These people are experiencing the fullness and liberty that is in Christ,being taught through scripture by God Himself.There are scriptures which prophecy of this in bible

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

You are correct in one thing a key is love.

But not a love based on the narrowminded view of a self righteous religion.

But Vibrationally!

You see everything in the universe vibrates. And how we think will directly impact how we vibrate. The Divine is on a higher vibrational level then this physical one.

Those who focus on hate, anger, wrath, jealousy are keeping their vibrational state lower and locked into this existence.

This doesn't mean damnation but repeating life!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Judgement will come to those that chose rebellion over obedience,sin over righteousness,pride over humility,ultimately chosing the works of the devil over God.Yet God is still patient with us,He just doesnt judge me when I sin but gives me the chance to repent,we all the chance.Hell was not made for people,but for the fallen angels,you and I will have our portion and ultimately given over to that which we loved while on earth.If you loved darkness and sin,then darkness you shall hav

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

Do you judge inchworms, beetles, flies, ants? The very notion of this would be laughed at. yet this is exactly what you think would occur with us.

You seriously need a history lesson.

Prior to the 6th century bc there was no devil as it is thought of today.

In the old testament the one causing evil, speaking evil, creating evil, doing evil was the Lord God!

Job 2:10 Job states What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil?

God caused Evil!

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

So you think women should lose all of their rights and be reduced to the property of Man.

Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife . . nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

This lists WOMEN as PROPERTY!

The only ones back then that could own PROPERTY were MEN!

That is your Tenth Commandment.

So i ask you ARE WOMEN TO BE SLAVES TO MEN?

YES OR NO!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Women are not to be slaves or property.However this still happens in certain cultures(not saying its right).God was adressig an issue within the culture,He had to address it at a level at which they could understand.It was never meant to be this was,look at Adam & Eve,how God created it.Eve was never Adams property,he did not pay a bridal price for her.Same goes for the slvae argument,God was not endorsing slavery,but addressing an issue at that time,for a specific culture

[tmawushe]

If God started talking to you about slaves and owning your wife today,you wouldn't understand where he was coming from.U cant take people from A-Z,u've gotta go through the whole alphabet so that ppl will understand.Just like u teach a child,the childs understanding is limited,if you give too much info the child cannot comprehend it,but when they grow older they can grasp the deeper things

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

That is just wrong.

There was no do not do this. Not one thing about it being wrong.

In fact this idea was carried all the way into the new testament with paul.

The fact of the matter is this God not only advocated slavery but demanded it!

In the new testament the slavery idea was continued.

1 Corinthians 6:20 For ye are bought with a price

&

1 Corinthians 7:23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

The word Servant means SLAVE!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Absolutely true,our religious doctrines muddle up what was pure,making the word of God of no effect.If you noticed,I did not even quote for you a single scripture,maybe 1 but I did not force bible down your throat.We're simply talking,sharing thoughts.I'm not muttering something which does not govern my life,certainly not "church".

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

As i said you know nothing about me, but like so many arrogant / ignorant Christians you assume since i hate your sadistic, blood thursty, child killing, slavery advocating, Narcissistic God that I am blind to what is real.

The one that is blind is You sir! You are blinded by bullshit and tyrantical thinking!

I personally suspect the Native American's (Which the Christians nearly Genocided when they invaded this country) are far closer to what is real then Christians ever will be!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Did I ever pass judgement on you?I dont think so,if I did I am sorry.I didnt claim to know you,rather just suggested you ask the higher being if it existed if you were inclined to do so.You may be closer to God than most "christians",a thin line between love and hate they say.If I am blind then I am certainly happier this way compared to how I was some time ago.I remember me then and I look at myself now,total contrast,for the better.If this what being blind reaps then let it be so.

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

You personally didn't but i know your type.

When I was 16 i said i wanted to know everything there is to know about God. I was a Christian at that point. I had been raised to believe in God. However my desire to know God pushed me into areas of study which were forbidden to the religion.

What is termed the occult (Which only means hidden) was one area of study.

Ultimately it was my humanity that caused me to realize not only could I not follow the Christian God but oppose it!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Now you judge me by your statement,"your type",you dont know me at all.Anyway the bible expressly warns us not to medle in the spirit realm bcoz u and I tho we be spiritual at times are not spirit beings.bcoz we r not spirit beings,we r not always aware of what is goin on in the spirit realm,so wen u open urself up to certain spirits,u dont kno wat it is u'r openin up to bcoz u'r just not aware of these things.This leaves u open to attacks in the spirit wich u r not aware of

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

FACEPALM!!

Do you even know what the word Spirit in the hebrew meant?

Spirit is the Hebrew word 7307 and means WIND, BREATH!

while Soul is the Hebrew word 5315 and means A BREATHING CREATURE!

But yes YOUR TYPE is the bible pounding Christian that doesn't know how to do Real research!

You completely ignore the fact that the bible was written from a far different social world view then we have.

The ideas of a society will impact how they think of a God!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis I didnt claim that I know everything buddy.Thank u for telling me about the complexity of the hebrew language,something which I want to learn if I get the chance to.I DIDNT know that,and you're right,to understand what the bible actually means I would have to dig deep,thats something I havnt got the chance to do.If I could read hebrew I would know this,I can only relate to the bible in my language.However that still doesnt change my statement,the word is at times used as a synonym

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

You do not need to be able to read Hebrew only to have the proper tools.

A Strongs Concordance is a must if you want to understand the bible.

There is a program which is free online called an E Sword bible which contains the strongs concordance in it. KJV+ gives the strongs Hebrew or Greek (Depending on if you are in old or new testament) then below it gives you the defination

However the bible doesn't say slavery is wrong or women being property is wrong. Not one place!

[tmawushe]

@PastorIblis Okay thanks for that, I will certainly be getting those two,I meant to get the Strongs Concordance but never got doing so.Anyway we shall carry on our debate at another time. Its been refreshing talking to you, I shall certainly brush up on my research. Will talk to you later.

Till then

Take care.

T

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

Why the fuck does an ATHEIST have to teach a Christian how to study their own bible?

WHY haven't you gotten around to studying the book you claim to believe in?

If you do not know what is written in the bible how the fuck do you know if you believe it?

You do not know what is there!

[StevieWonder501]

@PastorIblis As for the slaves, we tend to think of the American slavery early in our history. This wasn't what God meant by slaves (Deut. 5:14). You notice that he gave the same right not to work on the Sabbath Day, the same *command*, to masters *as well as* their slaves? Seems pretty gracious to me.

What were slaves? Mostly those who did not have enough money to own property (or were widows). We say "God wanted slavery? EVIL EVIL!" When, in reality, those slaves were given a place to live.

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

Gracious? Are you fucking kidding me?

B lack people BITCH TO HIGH HELL about Slavery Some want FREE MONEY just because some Balck people were Slaves in the USA when it was founded and Now YOU want to say Having a Day off is GRACIOUS?

Are you fucking kidding me?

DO YOU WANT TO BE SLAVE SO LONG AS YOU HAVE ONE DAY OFF A WEEK?

IS THAT GOOD TO YOU?

Rosa Parks & Martin Luther King would be Rolling over in their graves at such IGNORANCE!

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

Is it also Gracious to WHIP SLAVES after all So long as you give then ONE DAY OFF A WEEK!

Fuck they don't need FREEDOM OF CHOICE!

It is SOOOOOOO GRACIOUS to give them Just ONE DAY OFF A WEEK!

You are a disgrace to all Black people trying to get EQUAL RIGHTS!

You think SLAVERY IS GREAT SO LONG AS THEY GET ONE DAY OFF A WEEK!

Fucking Retard!

[StevieWonder501]

@PastorIblis Okay. I'll respond to you with patience and calmness as, frankly, you haven't proven to show in your response.

First, give me one Bible verse where it says it is "gracious to whip a slave."

Second, be careful not to associate African-Americans with all forms of slavery. I'm a slave to Christ and I'm caucasian.

Third, no, I do believe in equal rights for all races. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (Gal. 3:28)

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

Clearly you don't know your bible

Luke 12:47 - 48 (JESUS SPEAKING!) And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Slavery Is SLAVERY!

[StevieWonder501]

@PastorIblis And by your definition, then I guess Martin Luther King Jr. must have been...well, you know.

Please don't discriminate African Americans like this. All are equal in God's eyes.

Again, if I change my mind or decision, does that mean I change?

JEREMIAH 31:31 = NEW COVENANT

I'm not trying to be mean, just highlighting it. Sorry if the Big Caps offend you at all.

I don't believe in a Magical sky dwelling deity, so...I DO believe in an eternal God, with a being in three persons.

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

Clearly you are CHERRY PICKING!

1 Corinthians 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. (YOU ARE PROPERTY! BOUGHT PROPERTY!)

1 Corinthians 7:23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.  (NO YOU ARE A SLAVE TO THIS GOD!)

My Ex who was Black said it was this SLAVE idea that made her say she just couldn't be a Christian!

A black person that accepts SLAVERY is fucked up!

[StevieWonder501]

@PastorIblis Now, here's an example of quickly skimming over what I wrote before.

Do you not realize that earlier I *said* that I was a slave to Christ? (look it up)

I take great pride in being a slave to Christ. I am infinitely weaker than my Lord, but where I am weak, then I am strong. And where I am strong, I can glorify God and receive eternal joy from my God.

So I'm happy to be a slave to Christ. Imagine if I were still a slave to sin! Now THAT would stir up some unbelief!

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

Further more what you accept slavery to is a Man Made Church System!

There is NO Evidence to support the existence of Any God!

The Slavery that was done was ALWAYS done by People!

There is no Magical sky dwelling deity!

That is simply fantasy thinking not reality!

[StevieWonder501]

@PastorIblis 24 ...since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. 25 Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism.

(Colossians 3:22-25)

Amen.

God Bless you.

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

Right and wrong based on WHOSE ideas?

You apply HUMAN EMOTION and HUMAN VALUES to your fucking God!

This means your god is HUMAN!

Anything that would be beyond HUMAN would not percieve reality as we do since we is in the range of our 5 senses!

The entire basis of your ideas is rooted in THE CHURCH!

That is your God!

That is YOUR MASTER!

The CHURCH is the ones that VOTED on which writtings to include and which to BAN!

YOU ARE A SLAVE TO THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH!

[StevieWonder501]

@PastorIblis I'm a slave, and I'll be a slave for as long as I live. And my Master has lavished His grace and love on me, and will continue to do so for an eternity to come.

For those who read this comment in the future, don't believe on what I have said. Look into the Resurrection for yourself. This is all my faith stands on, one man, my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, My God Jesus Christ, rising from the dead to sit at the right hand of God so that we may have eternal life. Have a good life.

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

The slave mindset is the most disempowering and dehumanizing ideas anyone could ever have!

To actually glorify Slavery you are a special kind of retard!

What you worship is the CHURCH!

The God is a stupid out dated MYTH!

Zero evidence Zero reason to buy into the bullshit!

SLAVERY IS JUST FLAT OUT WRONG!

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis Slavery in Christ is freedom. The only slavery that frees you, by the way, so think about it.

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

As I said a month ago it takes a Special kind of Retard to think Slavery is good!

I guess you also think Thought Crime is a wonderful thing too!

It takes a Very Special kind of Retard to believe the THOUGHTS IN THEIR HEAD are more important then the ACTIONS THEY DO!

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis on slavery: it depends who your master is. Thought crime ? yes I sin by deeds and thoughts and by omission of doing good. Your last statement is ok, but wrong thoughts spawn wrong deeds won't they ? Before you act yiou need first to conceive the action ie think of it.

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

What you really hate is FREEWILL!

After all SIN is making a choice different from that which your God wants you to make!

The ability to make a choice of your own and (Here is a Marvel concept for you) LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES! Is what FREEWILL is all about!

But You want a system where if you make ONE MISTAKE! ONE WRONG CHOICE! The you diserve to be TORTURED FOREVER!

Exactly where is the ability to LEARN and GROW?

For a God to Demand BLOOD to pay for your FREEWILL is SICK!

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis Dear ????, I feel like I'm talking to a little boy. Freewill is a gift from God, we have our own judgement, precisely to able to chose our will against His. When I pray "Let Thy will be done" I do it freely, nobody coerces me.

The rest of your comment is product of your imagination, with no support in the Bible, where if you want, but you are free, you can learn more about God;

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

Assholes like you don't want the burden of having to Think for yourself!

You would much rather be told What you can Think, What you can do, What you can say!

After all then You don't have to take Any Personal Responcibility for your actions!

Not even a Child acts this fucking stupid!

The truth is without Freedom of Thought you have NO FREEDOM AT ALL!

Which means NO FREEWILL!

And That is Heaven to you?

If you live in the USA my question is WHY?

You love a Dictatorship!

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis I take responsability for all my actions,nobody can escape it. Out of freewill I surrender to God in perfect obedience. To obey Him is my life, and I do it gladly.

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

Frankly i don't care if you want to be the SLAVE of some imaginary Deity!

I am not going to engage in such nonsense!

You do NOT have the right to try and THREATEN ME if I don't THINK exactly as you!

You are an Idiot I am not!

You worship a Nonexistent being I DO NOT!

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis It's still time to convert.

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

In an attempt to find out if rational thought ever enters what passes for your mind here is a question.

If your God is Not Human with a Physical body and Physical 5 senses then How Exactly does your God view reality exactly as any of us do?

What we define as reality come from how our Brain interprets the information that comes in via our 5 senses. But then there is the aspect of how Personal Experiences shape ones perception!

Your God has NONE OF THIS!

Because it's IMAGINARY!

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis don't try to be more clever than you are.

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

It is not trying to be Clever to point out the Facts of where our perception of what we call reality come from.

As well as to point out what we regard as acceptable and unacceptable behavior.

All of these things are based on the Human brain, 5 senses as well as the culture and social class one happens to be born into. There is also the Personal experiences aspect of the equasion!

This is called Logical Thought.

Something that is Clearly above your intellect level!

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis Do you know that you have a soul ?

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

Considering the word Soul means a Breathing Creature that is Animal Yes I AM a Soul!

Not i have one!

Do you even know how to look words up in the Hebrew to see what they meant?

At No Time does the word Soul mean Casper!

While the word Spirit means WIND, by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation!

Once Again it doesn't mean Fucking Casper!

Both refer to Physical beings Not some other dimensional thing!

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines the soul as the spiritual principle in man." All souls living and dead will be Judged by Jesus Christ when he comes back to earth.The souls of those who die unrepentant of serious sins, or in conscious rejection of God, will at judgment day may be forever in a state called Hell. The doctrine of the faith affirms that the spiritual and immortal soul is created immediately by God."

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

I don't give a fuck what bullshti the ROMAN Cathoilic Church wishes to MAKE UP!

The Meaning In HEBREW is very clear!

The Doctrine of burning people in direct conflict with Jeremiah 32:35 where the lord God got PISSED at people burning children in fire!

He saiid yolu are doing something i NEVER commanded! Neither came it into my mind! he also called it an Abomination and a SIN!

You are the only that professes to believe in this God yet you are ignorant of what PISSED HIM OFF?

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis Well It is your doctrine against that of the Church. I'll stay by the Church, my Mother. That will be my last word.

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

The Church is Not your Mother as the Church can not Give life!

The true mother if you wish to use that symbolic term is THE EARTH!

The Earth is what gives birth to each of us and to whom each of us lives in the embrace of and one day return to!

Remain ignorant that is your choice.

I don't expect blind fools like you to wake up from your slumber!

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

Church Doctrine is Not proof of anything. It is Simply what that MAN MADE GROUP Says they Think!

Clearly you worship a CHURCH system which was started by the GOVERNMENT of ROME!

You worship MAN!

DRR DRR!

[vonMohl]

@PastorIblis I will stay by the Church, the mystical body of Christ. And that's my last word.

[PastorIblis]

@vonMohl

That is who you worship!

A MAN MADE CULT!

One that is bent of DEATH & SUFFERING!

That is what you praise!

That is why people like Me hate people like You!

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

If you want to blow what little mind you have Read the Thirteen Codex's!

As well as the Essene Gospel of Peace!

Those are writtings of the Historical Jesus but what is said there most definately does not go along with THE CHURCH!

Don't worry the way things are looking you will have your Slavery soon enough!

Just don't cry to me about it when you wake up in chains!

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

Normal people Find Slavery to be Repulsive!

You think it is wonderful!

My only conclusion You are a stupid fool that is a disgrace to all black people that have struggled to get Equal rights!

You Piss on Everything they tried to achieve!

STUPID STUPID STUPID!

[frankherman3]

@PastorIblis

How can one hold a slave today if you impose the golden rule on it? Do you have debt, and use your labour to pay it off? Slavery is not wrong today either it's just imposed more subtle.

It is possible to know every word of the Bible and still be wrong about who God is!

[PastorIblis]

@frankherman3

The golden rule is NOT FROM THE BIBLE!

Provide CHAPTER & VERSE for where the GOLDEN RULE is in your god damn bible!

IT IS NOT THERE!

IDIOT!

Jesus advocates WHIPPING SERVANTS (SLAVES) LUKE 12:47 - 48

Jesus also said he came to send FIRE ON EARTH! LUKE 12:49

TRY READING YOUR GOD DAMN BIBLE!

IDIOT!

[PastorIblis]

@frankherman3

According to your fucking bible your God can not change!

MALACHI 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not

So if this God can't change then the laws he made in the ten commandments must still apply today.

Even though in the USA we only go by 2 of them! 8 we ignore! That is 80% of your so called God's commandments are NOT LAWS IN THE USA!

The two that are are necessary in order to have a society! Not original to the israelites.

Do not kill & Do not steal!

IDIOT!

[StevieWonder501]

@PastorIblis There is a difference between laws and God. ...is this even an issue?

[PastorIblis]

@StevieWonder501

If this God can't change and this God thought Slavery was accdeptable & Thought a Wife was Property (The Tenth Commandment) then it must still think both are good today.

Otherwise that indicates a Change and that would mean this God can Change which means this God is not perfect.

Which also means this God is a liar since it said it can't change!

So yes this undermines the entire God concept!

[StevieWonder501]

@PastorIblis Okay. So, let's say I go to a drive-thru. I order fries in the beginning. Yet when I get up to the window, I decide I just want a drink instead. Does this make me change as a person? No.

Likewise, when God decides that there will be a new covenant (Jeremiah 31:31), that doesn't mean He's changed. When you've changed your mind, *you* don't change. He already knew there would be a new covenant from the beginning. It was part of His plan to have an old and new covenant. Grace to you

[PastorIblis]

@tmawushe

Here is a revelation for you.

Knowledge is hidden in things called Books!

Perhaps if you actually read the one you think is so wonderful you would realize that it is pure evil. That is assuming you are not a Fundi which will find ways to justify anything. Even Genocide, Slavery, Calling women property, Child abuse. and those are just a few of the qualities in your bible about your God!

Unlike you i advocate Reading the damn bible.

Because nothing will get you to Atheism faster

[PastorIblis]

While it is true SOME people (Not just artists) try and use drugs as a way to escape reallity. The real issue is the self created hell they choose to live in.

Where it becomes down right sick is Christians glorify the TORTURE of those NOT JUST LIKE THEM!

[PastorIblis]

Damn Christians must be the DUMBEST people on the planet.

You think EVERYTHING in a song is LITTERAL!

That is because you take EVERYTHING LITTERALLY!

Jesus was by your own admission a REBEL to the establishedment!

You love rebellion when it SUITS YOUR BULLSHIT!

IF you hate rebellion you MUST hate Jesus too since he was a Rebel!

[Tarotlynx]

I am certainly no Christian anymore, and yet I am completely disgusted. It just makes me sick in my soul.

[anewdayproductions]

i wonder if nico is enjoying her own eternal destruction in hell right now?

[john146only]

Nico? Never even heard of her and I am 33.

[evilpressley]

Thats because she dided before you were born. Where is GG ALLIN on this video? He has the evilest song ever "highest power" and he is very popular with rock n' rollers. like rob zombie, marilyn manson david allen coe and even aerosmiyh. he really should have been included.

[john146only]

I C

[RoseCrossVato]

Note quite. John146 would have been 12 when Nico died,

[john146only]

"Slashed his throat ,& it was funny?"

[john146only]

Romans 1, read it!

[cublop]

culture of death

vh1 mtv and all NWO antichrist ARMY

a lot of martyrs blood for save their souls

is time to fight and PRAY

[2redaces]

BAUHAUS!!!! RAWK!!!! \m/