@THEHELENOHENZO Humans have no power? Hmmm... We only invented quantum theory, nuclear energy, antibiotics, immunosuppressants (for organ transplants), fMRI, the Haber-Bosch process (which feeds a third of the world's population), transistors (which power the entire modern world), general relativity, genetics, proteomics, rocketry, and we have probed the furthest reaches of the cosmos with deep field telescopes. No power, my ass.
1) Yes, I do believe that the universe is defined by the rules of physics.
2) Yes, I have free will. Read quantum theory. Read chaos theory. Read pretty much any modern theory that deals with non-deterministic emergent phenomena in complex systems.
The maker of this video does not understand quantum physics or neuroscience. Pretty pathetic, dude. Yes we are driven by chemicals in the brain. Really? "which do you WANT to believe"? Wishthinking? Physics is in control. We are physics. So we are in control. Enough said. Soul is imaginary, as is chakra, aura, or chi, patronus, etc. If you think psychology hasn't looked at how attraction or emotion works, you're just plain ignorant. I'm calling fried dumplings god. Just ate god.
@Thechristiancullen Science and evolution are not "exclusive" to atheism. But the fact is that the reason science is successful is because it's the best way of determining what is true and what isn't. And the reason it's good at that is because it cancels cognitive biases like wishful thinking and reaching conclusions without insufficient evidence. Religion is the exact opposite of that: it claims "truth" through faith, anecdote and authority. (And corrupted texts.)
@Thechristiancullen Science is about gathering data and making logical inferences from that data in order to reach reliable conclusions. Everything about that is the opposite to religion for which faith is required precisely because there is an absence of evidence to support what religions claim. And, btw, many Christians, Muslims, etc. also think religion science are opposites, except they prefer ancient myths to scientific methodology (despite all science has done for them)
@LukeScientiae You are confused by comparing reigion with God. Its like saying The Laws of Themodynamics will show you how to raise a teenager or isomeric structure v how to have a good marriage.
Science, education, atheism, and religion cannot save a sinner from sin. Only the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ can wash your sin away.
@Thechristiancullen To talk about sin or anything else it's existence must first be established. The way to establish such things is by evidence. The best way of evaluating evidence is science. Science is all about eliminating cognitive biases that lead us to error, and evaluating the certainty with which things can be known. There is no better method. By these standards religion fails terribly: the evidence for what it clais is simply non existent. That's why it takes faith.
@LukeScientiae Therefore using your logic; Scientists and Doctors such as Carl Vaernet, Dr. Eduard Wirths, Harold Shipman, Dr. Aribert Heim etc should be perfect angels and never end up in prison.
Sorry but Man has a big problem which science cannot solve = sin.
@Thechristiancullen Absolutely nothing I said suggested that scientists are necessarily virtuous. If you think that was the logic of what I said, then you don't understand logic. What I said was that science has a great deal to say about what the right way of bringing up children is, and that you can't wish that away by making false comparisons with thermodynamics. Unfortunately, religious people love twisting logic and making false comparisons because it suits them.
@LukeScientiae No. You stated " Science is all about eliminating cognitive biases that lead us to error". If that were true then scientists and science would not make errors but they do.
You like Dawkins (the apostle of science) are twisting logic by claiming that it is science v God. Whereas I am stating that your original premise is wrong. Faith can be reconciled to science. It is not one or the other but both/and.
@Thechristiancullen Btw, how to raise a teenager is also a scientific question. We are learning evermore about the developent of behaviour, the psychology of children, their brain development, the way they learn... many other things... through science (psychology, neuroscience, epidemiological studies, and so on). Naming thermodynamics as unable to show us correct parenting shows how limited your understanding of science's reach really is.
@LukeScientiae Wrong - you are confused. Faith can be reconciled with science because "they have different jobs to do. Science can diagnose a cancer and can even find a cure for it,But a scientist will be the first to say, it can't help you to deal with the stress and disappointment that comes with a diagnosis
@Thechristiancullen I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but faith without evidence cannot be reconciled with science, but faith with evidence can. Faith without evidence is required for religious belief. Faith with evidence is a product of the deduction of reason, a scientific method. Love is the same. We make our decisions about who we love and trust based on evidence feedback (experience). I have faith that my car will start in the morning, because of previous experience.
@Thechristiancullen You don't need religion to deal with grief. The happiest nations on Earth are the least religious (Sweden, Denmark, Norway, etc.) People die there all the time. Religion is completely superfluous to the flourishing of human happiness, including dealing with getting diagnosed with a disease. Religion, on the other hand, promises you everlasting life - for which there is NO evidence - because that's what primitive Bronze Age peasants believed.
@LukeScientiae The "happiest" countries are depopulating themselves through self- genocide, high suicide rates, depression etc.
Seems strange that the atheists in these happy nations may well become aboringines in their own countries thanks to the stupidity of atheism and humanism.
@Thechristiancullen Absolute bull. The countries I mentioned have low depresson and suicide rates - you're repeating complete nonsense you heard somewhere and you haven't checked your facts. I live in Sweden, so don't try to bullshit me. Countries with highest suicide rates in the world: Lithuania, S. Korea, Guyana, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Japan, Hungary, Russia, Latvia, Slovenia, Sri Lanka, Ukraine, Serbia & Montenegro... Typical believer citing nonsense in defence of faith.
@LukeScientiae Excuse me -calm down mate; you don't want to get a bad case of Village Atheist Syndrome.
Austria is the only country which records the religious belief of parents but their figure, of 0.85 children per atheist woman, is far below replacement rate (2.1) and below even the most barren European country's average rate, which is about 1.2. And since most people inherit their parents' political and religious world views, this is bad news for Team Dawkins and atheists.
@Thechristiancullen So your assertion is based on data about 1 country, not one I mentioned, to make a point based on an assumption about kids and inheritance of belief. Convoluted and irrelevant. The question is, were you right to say that the happieset, atheist countrieS (plural) are committing "self-genocide": No they're not: lowest religiosity is in Scandinavia - the countries I listed have LOW suicide rates and rising populations. They have low depression rates too.
@LukeScientiae I never mentioned Austria, it's not the most atheist country. According to a 2005 Eurobarometer poll, 54% of people say there is God. That's more religious than the most religious scandinavian country, Finland (which I didn't mention), 41% and even more behind, say, Sweden (23%). The population of Sweden, Demark and Norway have all been steadily rising since 1800s. So you're talking absolute nonsense in defence of your position. Big waste of everyone's time.
@LukeScientiae Austria however is the only european country that has bothered to do some research on the effects of atheism. Atheist europeans are too listless and are committing self-genoside as a result. You have been sold the lie of humanism and atheism. Most Vikkings would rather make dishwashers than worry about the depopulation of europeans from europe.
Biblical Principle = whenever God's people (Israel) turned their back on HIM, they were led into captivity by oppressors.
@Thechristiancullen Austria is NOT the only country to have done research on "the effects of atheism". There is no self-genocide; populations in Scandinavia are steadily rising and have been for a long time and "Vikkings" [sic] don't make dishwashers. It's precisely because they abandoned "Biblical principles", like the oppression of womena and gays, that atheistic societies are happier, freer of crime, have higher life expectancy, lower depression rates and all the rest.
@LukeScientiae You need to travel more. The only reason Scandinavian and european growth and fertility rates remain high is that it is the immigrants who are having percentage wise the most babies. I worked in a hospital in London for 2 years and the most common baby boys name is now Mohammed - once you include all the different kinds of spelling it.
@Thechristiancullen Travel even more? I don't think I'd have the time. I've lived all over the world. Your anecdotal experience from a London hospital is neither a genuine statistical sample, nor does it have anything to do with Scandinavia. And it's completely irrelevant to the fact that the freer of religion societies get, the happier and healthier they get. You can go and make more facts up, and offer more Bible babble if you like, but I don't have the time. Sorry.
@Thechristiancullen ... and there you go again: anecdotal evidence about something utterly irrelevant to your original point. A minority of far-right nutters in Malmö does not mean that "Sweden is committing self-genocide". It's obvious you will continue contributing more alarmist, faith-driven nonsense, irrespective of its truth or relevance to anything said before. So there's no point continuing; you're a faith-head with no respect for rational discourse. Bye now.
@LukeScientiae A taste of your future - Hate crimes, mainly directed against Jews, doubled last year with Malmo's police recording 79 incidents and admitting that far more probably went unreported. As of yet, no direct attacks on people have been recorded but many Jews believe it is only a matter of time in the current climate.
The city's synagogue has guards and rocket-proof glass in the windows, while the Jewish kindergarten can only be reached through thick steel security doors.
@LukeScientiae Malmo 2009 - a chapel serving the city's 700-strong Jewish community was set ablaze. Jewish cemeteries were repeatedly desecrated, worshippers were abused on their way home, and "Hitler" was mockingly chanted in the streets.
Atheism cannot give freedom.
Although terrible things have been done in the name of religion, the fact remains that Christianity and the Hebrew Bible form the foundation stone of Western civilisation and its great cause of human equality and freedom
@LukeScientiae Atheism is too weak to defend its own civilisation let alone invade anyone elses. You would think think that death of communist CCCP would have been a lesson for europeans; but no. Atheism is so weak that it it actually correlates to a rise of islam.
Vikkings may soon be making great dishwashers and vacum cleaners for the muslim oppressors. Shalom
@LukeScientiae 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported the following:
"Religiously unaffiliated subjects (atheists) had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation."
Atheist vikkings may make good vacum cleaners but is too weak to defend itself against islamic conquest. Vikkings may become aborigines in their own countries thanks to the stupidity of atheism. Shalom
@Thechristiancullen Secondly, countries like Sweden are not "depopulating themselves through self-genocide" you ignoramus. Since 1800s Sweden's population, for example, has risen about 1 million every 25 years. Not decreased. Clearly you don't care whether what tell other people is true. Again, typical of believers defending blind faith.
@reignevil I can explain it, it's the phenomenon called Photoshopium! Made me chuckle thought. Just do a picture search on "levitating rock in saudi arabia" and your doubts will be verified.
My conjecture is that science is missing something more than what it can measure. And I have known scientists that believe in god, but I am not such a person.
@reignevil the rock can be explain nd yes einstine believe in a god but not in a religious way. he believed that god is real just not watching us and judging us
@reignevil i can explain... :)... first of all, it is not even known where is that rock found, some say in Saudi Arabia, some in Jerusalem.... but if you search more.... you will find different rocks levitating in the same place.. (photoshopped)... :(.... (there is no proof that that rock exists)
@reignevil Show me proof of the levitating rock, then we can talk. And I don't mean anecdotes (the first kind of unreliable evidence), I don't mean some rantings of some nutcase immam, and I don't mean photoshopped fakes. I want proof that a rock in Saudi Arabia is levitating. Without that, there is nothing to talk about.
@ThePlatoon4 So are you saying that religious texts are useless because they are all trying to convey something that cannot be conveyed?
I agree that there may well be something around us that we cannot comprehend and so I don't worry about trying to define it. I just observe the results. The results I see are not from a book but from my day to day experiences that often fill me with delight and wonder. I use books to open my mind, not constrain it.
The only reason why god was created by ancient man was to explain something they could not currently understand . man has in current times created the equations needed to create other universes out of our own yet it would take the equivelant of a google of amount of the energy created by the sun to create just one and even then we would have no control over it, because it would break of from our own universe just as quickly as it was created.
So its not that "GOD" is beyond our level of understanding its just that he probably never existed in the first place.
And then again why should todays society even belive in something that does not even explain evolution or in detail the creation of our universe. but please dont missunderstand me im all for Philosophy as much as science i just feel and know in my heart and "soul"(aka Mind) that god does not exist and ive known this and called bullshit on it from day one, so FUCK GOD.
well it makes me feel awsome knowing that my life and everything I see around me will fade away into the distant memory of universal history. and the reason for that is very simple, Every moment in life is that much more beautiful and your love for those close to you grows that much stronger when you realise that God,heaven and hell simply does not exist.
Thank you all for reading this. have a nice life, and learn from my words ^^
@ThePlatoon4 yeah sure !!!! if god gave us logic to use and think with , then why his/her ( why is anyone refering to god as a male?) comprehension is beyond of our logic resulting in the state of not understanding and further doubting his/her existance????
@ThePlatoon4 To answer your question about what is wrong with believing in a god: There is no good evidence to suggest that any gods exist. It is wrong to accept things for which insufficient evidence exists. History provides many examples of tragedies that result from people accepting unevidenced beliefs (many of them religious). You can say "god is beyond our understanding" but you can replace the word god in that with anything (e.g. "wizardry"). Does that make it real? No.
@ThePlatoon4 To emphasize: replace "god" in "god is beyond our understanding" with "white racial superiority". So "white racial superiority is beyond our understanding". Does that make it a sound belief? Something to go around convinced that it's true? Something to base your actions on? No. The logic is completely ridiculous. So why say it as though it worked for "god" and not for "white racial superiority"? If something is beyond your understanding, then you can't say it's true.
@ThePlatoon4 My comment discussed the logic of YOUR suggestion that god cannot be understood as though that was some kind of meaningful excuse for belief in him. The logic of THAT claim (yours) doesn't make any sense, because "god" can be exchanged with any other phrase, so it's not an argument for god at all. I think you've probably missed the point of my last two comments. (Even though it wasn't subtle.)
@MrNightranger86 Thanks. I do hope it makes people think and question what they believe, not just to dispute them but to strengthen them. Sometimes people don't do this for fear of losing something that they feel is part of them. But I think there are many other wonderful things that easily fill these "gaps".
It is very healthy to question "unquestioned assumptions", and this applies to both the religious and scientific world.
@ma8740 I don't know if there is a god or where he or she may have come from. Why should everything have a beginning? Some scientists say that the universe is expanding from a single point and will return to one only to do the exact same thing again. This may be happening forever. Time may not exist at the single point and so the question becomes meaningless. But what use is the answer to any of this?
Try this question: "How can I be happy?" Isn't the answer to this more useful?
@GOODTHOUGHTSUK I find it hard to visualize the universe without a single beginning point because thinking about that point gets me thinking about the origin of that point; If the process of expanding from and contracting to a single point happens, when did this process actually start? Maybe the beginning of this process cannot be xplained with the concept of time; Maybe we need something higher to xplainn the channel of the process.
@ma8740 But ask yourself how would your life change if you did have the answer to this question. Surely there would just be another question to replace it as no one person can know everything with a finite life.
It comes down to whether you want to question life or experience it. Yes you can do both but you then experience life with confusion and doubt, and don't really experience it. We all have a limited time on this earth and so we should be really certain that what we are doing is right.
@GOODTHOUGHTSUK "useful" is not a word scientists usually equate with the value of their work. The value of scientific knowledge is the knowledge itself. Scientists just want to know. It is a curiosity that is not found in those who believe in the supernatural, god or creationism...(which it seems you have varying degrees of belief in each.)
No wonder you lack the curiosity of a real scientist...you have given up and have conceded defeat.
I appreciate the question, I don't know that how people start thinking about GOD how and where he come from. Instead of this if you thing from where and how We come from .. so you will get your answer.
Okay let me make it simple for you. to understand the Creator first we need to understand the creation. First think WHO are u? where did you come from ? whats you purpose of life? and where do you go after this? If you get the answer of this defiantly you will get answer of GOD
@ma8740 you dont reallly understand time sience is too young dont even think about were god came from cause yu will never kno untill you die. maybe he is outside of space and time.. he is in a differnt frequency than us so we can detect him or the beings of his frequency
@ma8740 no necessarily:) Everything needs a beginning when it comes to time, I was skeptical too, and I went and did my own research. I learned in all of my reading and searching that with time, there is cause and effect, and in Christianity, God is in a realm where time doesn't exist, and something that exists in such a realm doesn't necessarily need a cause to exist. Hope I explained it where it can be understood. Peace Bro!
@5KnuckleShuffle94 Incorrect. Only the flying spaghetti monster fits the scientific evidence we have today. For your god has no noodly appendages whatsoever, and that's obviously wrong. The universe could not be created without noodly appendages. Its structure is inherently noodly. What do you think string theorists have finally discovered? His sauce be upon you. Rahmen.
God is the one, who is not having any beginning and end. It is the human psychology, he tries to see the world in his own manner, that's why we think about God as we think about ourselves. To understand the God we need to think beyond to our typical thinking.
Science is the knowledge that was also created by God. We all know that Science has some limits and there are lot of things that needs to be discovered. the scientists of 18th or 19th century had different prospective i.e. Atom can not be divided but with the passage of time, we came to know that YES we can further divide atom. So we can not say that Science is reliable on ALL.
Everything is created by someone,so the Whole Universe is one of them. Now the question raised in our mind that everything is created by someone so ...GOD... :-) my dear God is not a thing .. He is GOD
@rocketjav11 Don't forget to look at people as well as the physical world in your investigations! They are much harder to understand and are more important than rocks!
@theplatoon4 yeah but he's all forgiving so it doesn't matter Haha. What if only atheists get in heaven because they use the logical minds God gave them to pass the test, the test being that religion is the cause of most war and murder so to avoid it and use logic , which he gave us, then at the end all the logical atheists who lead good meaningful lives get to party in heaven
@theUKatheist Nice dream! In the back of your mind are you still hoping to get into heaven?
I've heard that if you don't ask pretty people out then they'll ask you out too!
Perhaps try to use your logical mind to investigate all the illogical things in the world? I'm not even suggesting exploring god, but just people. Most logical people never try and instead ignore the things that are right in front of them every day of their lives.
@ThePlatoon4 no, you just die. there is absolutely zero evidence to support that anything happens after you die. you are a product of your brain, when your brain dies you die.
there is no creator! you cannot possibly know this! all what you are saying you cannot possibly know! where in the bible does it say all this? ... and even if it did a man wrote it. if you live of faith and no evidence then your a moron. simple as that. you believe because its how you were raised, its simple! .. think about this, in NO other circumstance would you ever think this way, every other aspect in your life is governed by reality and the laws of science. apart from a FAITH BASED BELIEF!
@theUKatheist the bible and directly made by ''god'' for him to be the god you believe .
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And where did you pull that from?
I am not a Christian!
I am a Shiite Muslim!
No dodging the questions and quibbling in vain!
YES OR NO?
Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *** unknowing and unperceiving ***, is his creator and that of all beings?
@theUKatheist AGAIN Is that which is necessary in essence and which is considered the first source of existence matter itself or something else beyond the limits of matter?
Dodging ALL the questions and quibbling in vain!
Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions!
Deluded atheist looks at the world with BOTH eyes *closed* and, as a result, are unable to answer ALL the questions!
@1tabligh i dont look at things with any eyes closed, i am open to any possibility, including a creator , but 99.99% of me does not believe this and until a reason to believe comes then i will not change my opinion, why should i. if anyone has their eyes closed its theists, they definitely look at everything blindly, thinking they already know everything, they DO NOT LOOK PAST THEIR BELIEFS! and THAT is the problem, there are MANY possibilities, open YOUR eyes to them all, not just "god did it!
@theUKatheist Your delusions that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your claim is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories. Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, ....
everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim, ...
to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.
Some people try to propagate this *fantasy* in the garb of science and to present their choice as having been dictated by scientific thought. In the final analysis, however, the denial involved in such an assertion is unworthy of science and philosophy, and even *contradicts* empirical logic.
@1tabligh science cant prove there is no god because if there was a god it wouldn't be science, also the burden of proof is on the individual/s with the claim that a god exists, to prove something does not exist is nonsensical. i'll stick with reality thanks, and if anything supernatural occurs i may change my mind. there is absolutely no reason to believe a god exists. the same with any other mythological character.
@theUKatheist If man, through the application of scientific instruments and criteria, cannot perceive the existence of a thing, he cannot deny its existence simply because it is incompatible with material criteria, unless he disposes of some proof that the thing in question is impossible.
We discover the existence of an objective law from within the totality of phenomena that it is capable of interpreting.
If, then, the establishment of scientific truth is possible only by means of direct sensation, the majority of scientific truths will have to be discarded, since many scientific facts cannot be perceived by means of sensory experience or *testing.*
When the experimental sciences demonstrate that the elements and natural facrtors cannot exert any independent influence and do not possess any creativity;
@1tabligh you keep talking rubbish about materialism and our own reality etc, this simply means you CANNOT PROVE GOD WITHOUT MAGIC & SUPERSTITION! if this is the case then please stop replying because your a moron and are stupid enough to believe things on blind faith. your so dumb you dont care if its true or not. you dont care if your whole life is a lie. if you did you would be open to all possibilities and LOOK BEYOND YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM! but you wont because your a brainwashed f*cking moron!
@theUKatheist Those who refuse to worship God find themselves prostrating before their inner idol; passion and desire rule every dimension of their beings.
Self-worship is a dangerous sickness that with its different manifestations in the individual and social life of man entails the most tragic misfortunes and disorders. It creates a powerful barrier between man and the truth and results in the breakdown of man's capacities of perception and the blinding of his inner being.
@1tabligh talking rubbish yet again, you have yet to produce any evidence. If you keep babbling on with your stupid rants without any proof then there conversation is over. All your doing is trying to sound smart but you're coming across as really stupid with the crap you are coming out with, give evidence that counts in the real world or just give it a rest you moron! No doubt your reply will be something idiotic and along the lines of stay you already have said, again without evidence
@1tabligh you do not understand the big bang fully please stop pretending that you do. i ask you is it feasible to believe in a God that there is absolutely no evidence for? again if you reply with idiotic non-evidential ramblings the conversation is over, talk properly in real debate format or just do not reply , you make no valid points.
@theUKatheist you do not understand the big bang fully please stop pretending that you do......
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If you will still persist in your ignorance at least assure me as to when this *big bang* created itself-whether it did it before it came into existence, or afterwards?
If you say afterwards, your assertion is absurd. Because it is impossible for a thing to create its own self when it was already created.
@1tabligh it is you that is ignorant. if you actually knew the big bang theory you would see that it IS possible for the universe to come from what YOU define as nothing, but was merely a very simple state of space, you believe instead of the universe developing from a simple state, that an almighty god was there already? how is that logically sound? why cant a simple state always have existed? you think God came from nowhere used Magic to create things from nothing. YOU ARE THE IGNORANT ONE!
@1tabligh this whole comment makes you look even dumber. You do realise i have given you an explanation , and i have pointed you in the direction of a lecture to explain it in detail. yet you still say this jibberish. i have also asked you several times to explain how you think a god came from nothing and you have yet to answer, it seems i answer all your questions with logical responses and point you to EVIDENCE yet you come back with nothing. watch the lecture and educate yourself. moron!
@1tabligh your really starting to get on my nerves, i showed you a way to see for your self how the universe could come from nothing, AND i explained it to you my self. why the f*ck are you still asking me?
We can raise precisely the same objection against the duped atheists and ask them, "If we follow the chain of causality back, we will ultimately reach the primary cause. Let us say that cause is not God, but matter. Tell us who created primary matter. You who believe in the law of causality, answer us Ws: if matter is the ultimate cause of all things, what is the cause of matter?
You say that the source of all phenomena is matter-energy; what is the cause and origin of matter-energy?"
@1tabligh WTF after all that i gave you you just change the question without acknowledging the last one? are you f*cking mental or something? i just proved to you that the universe can be created via the big bang and you go to the next question without even acknowledged it. i also asked you in your belief WHERE DID GOD COME FROM??? i showed you a logical POSSIBLE explanation and you show me nothing.
@1tabligh there is no cause, why does there have to be?? we are an accident in an infinitely expanding universe. do you know how insignificant we are to the grand scale of the universe? life here was an accident, simple, enjoy it while you can. there does not have to be a cause for it. the universe is NOT perfect and is NOT made for us, to think this is just f*cking small minded and stupid. you may not like the idea that we are not special and there is no heaven.....but so what, GROW UP!
"And the parable of those who disbelieve is as the parable of one who calls out to that which hears no more than a call and a cry; deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand. "
The Quran 2:171
Surely the vilest of animals, in God's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who do not understand.
@1tabligh .....f*ck you im done, you are the dumbest person i have ever talked too. you're someone who doesn't care if what they believe and how they live their life is based on truth or not, , you cant answer simple questions .. you quote a book to prove that book is right .. you cant be bothered to watch a lecture to prove you wrong .. you cant question your own beliefs .. you dont acknowledge any evidence given , instead you just discard it. its actually frustrating . you're a fucking idiot!
Same stupid arguments when cornered and intellectually whipped and defeated!!
When these wannabe monkey atheists, can't refute your arguments scientifically, then they resort to the same stupid argument, "....YOU!! DUMB!! SH*T!! ....fucking idiot! ...." and hide their ignorance and arrogance behind it's stupid pretext!
"...deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand. "
And this is what the ATHEISTS fail to understand and in their misguided blindness and bewilderment they are like the blind people groping right and left not knowing the purpose for this Universe, and unaware of the underlying ingenuity, they might begin to reprimand the architect of the Universe in their offensive rage, whereas, as a matter of fact, the fault lies with their own inability to see.
This analogy holds good in the case of those who deny the creative factor and the argument in favour of Divine Design. Failing to appreciate the merit of their provision, the perfection of creation and the beauty of design, they start wandering in the wide world, bewildered by their inability to grasp with their brains the underlying causes and principles. Mankind is perplexed and bewildered, blind, infatuated in their perverseness, following
their devils and spectres. They have eyes but do not see, they have tongues but are dumb, and do not understand. They have ears but do not hear. They are happy in their contemptible degradation. They presume that they are well-guided. They are diverted from the rank of rational beings. They feed on the vegetation of' polluted dirty people. They deem themselves safe from a sudden visitation of death and the retribution of deeds. Alas! How ill fated are these people!
Since the chain of causality cannot recede into infinity, they can answer only that matter is an eternal and timeless entity for which no beginning can be posited: matter is non-created, has no beginning or end, and its being arises from within its own nature. This means that the materialists accept the principle of eternity and non-origination; they believe that all things arose out of eternal matter and that being arises from within the very nature of matter, without any need for a creator.
@1tabligh you keep saying the same sh*t and i am NOT continuing the conversation any longer, . You pretend you want the answers but when i give them to you you cant be bothered to f*cking look, i gave you that lecture to answer these for you yet you keep asking. im not sure what else to do, your too retarded to watch something! you need to educate yourself. you are really the dumbest person ive spoken too. you wont even watch a lecture to explain your own questions, YOU ARE DUMB AS F*CK!
@1tabligh i think you're just copying and pasting this crap, are you taking the mick? if you were for real and had an ounce of intelligence you would watch the lecture i have given you to answer the questions you repeatedly keep asking. im not sure what else i can do, if you dont want your questions answering then stop f*cking asking ! if you do want them answering then just WATCH THE LECTURE I GAVE YOU!! .. just stop being such a dumb fuck already, if you want answers watch it
@1tabligh this is a wind up, im not answering any more, if it is or is not a wind up i just cant be bothered with dumb people like you. you said you wanted answers,i have them to you. if you dont care about your own belief and reality then i simply do not care. im not replying no more., if you wont help yourself then i am not going to do it for you. if you reply with one more stupid comment im going to simply block your dumb ass, in fact im going to do that now, EDUCATE YOURSELF! bye moron
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF QUIBBLING IN VAIN!
Eternity means stability and immutability of essence, the impossibility of cessation, but matter/energy is in its essence a compendium of forces and potentialities; it is relativity itself, totally caught up in living and dying.
Eternity is incompatible with the mode of being possessed by matter and the factors and attributes necessitated by its nature.
The belief of those who have faith in God concerning a fixed and absolute principle relates to a being who in and of his nature can accept stability and absoluteness; his nature is completely devoid of and remote from the properties of matter.
The very nature of matter refuses permanence, eternity and continuity, for it can never separate itself from movement, relativity, and it stands in opposition to being a prime or absolute agent.
All beings were originally non-beings; they were non-existent, and then they became existent. Deluded atheists wish to say that the energy/matter/univers/natural forces/ etc are eternal, but this notion is incorrect for the following reasons:
First, if the material energy/matter/univers/natural forces/ etc are eternal, it follows that an eternal being should be subject to change and cessation, which is impossible. ...
"Second, if the elements comprising the energy/matter/univers/natural forces/ etc are eternal by virtue of their essence, how is it possible that they should enter the embrace of death and disappearance?
And if, conversely, they lack life in their essences, how can life surge forth from them?
"If you say that living beings emerge from living elements and inanimate beings from inanimate elements, we reply that an essence that ...
lacks life in and of itself cannot be eternal and cannot be the source for life.
Belief in the eternity of the energy/matter/univers/natural forces/ etc is held by those who deny the existence of a ruler and planner of creation, reject the messengers of God, regard the books they bring as the fables of the ancients, and **** concoct **** beliefs pleasing to themselves..
So much "dumb ass" science for this brainless pseudo-Scientific Demagogue!
In just the same way that atheist regards matter as eternal, believers in God attribute eternity to God. Belief in an eternal being is then common to materialist and religious philosophers: both groups agree that there is a primary cause, but believers in God regard the primary cause as wise, all-knowing, and possessing the power of decision and will, whereas in the view of the materialists, the primary cause has neither consciousness, intelligence, perception, nor the power of decision.
@1tabligh watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture ..
@theUKatheist you're a fucking idiot! ...watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch
@1tabligh haha does your religion teach you to be dishonest ??? YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED IT! how the F*ck can you watch an hour long lecture in the space of 10 minutes. you're dumb as fuck. you're obviously not bothered about answering hte questions you have so get lost. you're too dumb to watch something! haha. get lost
@theUKatheist How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
The purpose of your assertion would be that the *big bang* made itself twice. It would mean that its first endeavours consisted in creating itself, and when it was quite ready and created, it created itself again. This is the most *absurd* and impossible theory-the acquisition of what is already acquired.
If you say that it created itself before it came into existence, it is really *stupid*. Because it was absolutely nothing before it came into existence.
How is it possible for a non-existing thing to create another thing (*big bang*) ? You consider my belief in an existing thing (God) that creates another non-existing thing (*big bang*) as absurd. But you do not consider your own, as to the non-existing thing having the power to create an already existing thing,(*big bang*) as absurd and stupid.
Be yourself the judge, and tell me whose theory is absurd and irrational.?
@1tabligh time as we know it before the big bang did not exist and did not flow in a straight line and was impossible to predict. also there are particles known as dark matter that jump in a
I see where this is going! lol
YouNewb100 1 week ago
Jesus is the only way to God.
SpcMedia21 4 weeks ago
@SpcMedia21 Amen brother
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
Logic, sir... you fails it.
zackersquackers 1 month ago
How bout we wait till we are all dead , den we will know . if there is god or not
reignevil 1 month ago
JUST GET USE TO WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW AND LEFT THE REST (WHICH ARE OUT HUMAN INTELLIGENCE) ALONE
THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES (LIFE OR DEATH)
CHOOSE GOD, YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE OR THINK ON YOUR OWN AND HAVE ETERNAL DEATH
THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
KEEP ON DOING THE WORK OF ANTICHRIST,
HUMANS HAS REACH THE LIMIT (WE CANNOT EVEN GO TO MOON EASILLY) NO WE NEED THE HELP OF GOD
THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
HUMANS HAVE NO POWER,
THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
@THEHELENOHENZO Humans have no power? Hmmm... We only invented quantum theory, nuclear energy, antibiotics, immunosuppressants (for organ transplants), fMRI, the Haber-Bosch process (which feeds a third of the world's population), transistors (which power the entire modern world), general relativity, genetics, proteomics, rocketry, and we have probed the furthest reaches of the cosmos with deep field telescopes. No power, my ass.
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
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THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
1) Yes, I do believe that the universe is defined by the rules of physics.
2) Yes, I have free will. Read quantum theory. Read chaos theory. Read pretty much any modern theory that deals with non-deterministic emergent phenomena in complex systems.
And stop pretending to be a scientist.
TheMonk72 1 month ago
The maker of this video does not understand quantum physics or neuroscience. Pretty pathetic, dude. Yes we are driven by chemicals in the brain. Really? "which do you WANT to believe"? Wishthinking? Physics is in control. We are physics. So we are in control. Enough said. Soul is imaginary, as is chakra, aura, or chi, patronus, etc. If you think psychology hasn't looked at how attraction or emotion works, you're just plain ignorant. I'm calling fried dumplings god. Just ate god.
Enginmaster 2 months ago
One more question!
chicken or egg comes ferst? O.o?
reignevil 3 months ago
@reignevil The dinosaur.:)
MoterCrozz 3 months ago
@reignevil Chicken.
TripleTrollForce 3 months ago
@reignevil The egg comes first, because whatever laid the first chicken egg was slightly different to a chicken. (Evolution.)
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
@LukeScientiae Since when did science and evolution become exclusive to atheism?
Thechristiancullen 1 month ago
@Thechristiancullen Science and evolution are not "exclusive" to atheism. But the fact is that the reason science is successful is because it's the best way of determining what is true and what isn't. And the reason it's good at that is because it cancels cognitive biases like wishful thinking and reaching conclusions without insufficient evidence. Religion is the exact opposite of that: it claims "truth" through faith, anecdote and authority. (And corrupted texts.)
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
Science and God are not at odds with each other - where do atheists get this idea from?
Why does atheists believe that science is exclusive to atheism.
Also why do atheists think that it is science v religion. They have different roles.
Its like saying apples v yoga
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Science is about gathering data and making logical inferences from that data in order to reach reliable conclusions. Everything about that is the opposite to religion for which faith is required precisely because there is an absence of evidence to support what religions claim. And, btw, many Christians, Muslims, etc. also think religion science are opposites, except they prefer ancient myths to scientific methodology (despite all science has done for them)
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
@LukeScientiae You are confused by comparing reigion with God. Its like saying The Laws of Themodynamics will show you how to raise a teenager or isomeric structure v how to have a good marriage.
Science, education, atheism, and religion cannot save a sinner from sin. Only the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ can wash your sin away.
Thechristiancullen 1 month ago
@Thechristiancullen To talk about sin or anything else it's existence must first be established. The way to establish such things is by evidence. The best way of evaluating evidence is science. Science is all about eliminating cognitive biases that lead us to error, and evaluating the certainty with which things can be known. There is no better method. By these standards religion fails terribly: the evidence for what it clais is simply non existent. That's why it takes faith.
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
@LukeScientiae Therefore using your logic; Scientists and Doctors such as Carl Vaernet, Dr. Eduard Wirths, Harold Shipman, Dr. Aribert Heim etc should be perfect angels and never end up in prison.
Sorry but Man has a big problem which science cannot solve = sin.
Thechristiancullen 1 month ago
@Thechristiancullen Absolutely nothing I said suggested that scientists are necessarily virtuous. If you think that was the logic of what I said, then you don't understand logic. What I said was that science has a great deal to say about what the right way of bringing up children is, and that you can't wish that away by making false comparisons with thermodynamics. Unfortunately, religious people love twisting logic and making false comparisons because it suits them.
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
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@LukeScientiae No. You stated " Science is all about eliminating cognitive biases that lead us to error". If that were true then scientists and science would not make errors but they do.
You like Dawkins (the apostle of science) are twisting logic by claiming that it is science v God. Whereas I am stating that your original premise is wrong. Faith can be reconciled to science. It is not one or the other but both/and.
Thechristiancullen 1 month ago
@Thechristiancullen Btw, how to raise a teenager is also a scientific question. We are learning evermore about the developent of behaviour, the psychology of children, their brain development, the way they learn... many other things... through science (psychology, neuroscience, epidemiological studies, and so on). Naming thermodynamics as unable to show us correct parenting shows how limited your understanding of science's reach really is.
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
@LukeScientiae Wrong - you are confused. Faith can be reconciled with science because "they have different jobs to do. Science can diagnose a cancer and can even find a cure for it,But a scientist will be the first to say, it can't help you to deal with the stress and disappointment that comes with a diagnosis
Thechristiancullen 1 month ago
@Thechristiancullen I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but faith without evidence cannot be reconciled with science, but faith with evidence can. Faith without evidence is required for religious belief. Faith with evidence is a product of the deduction of reason, a scientific method. Love is the same. We make our decisions about who we love and trust based on evidence feedback (experience). I have faith that my car will start in the morning, because of previous experience.
zackersquackers 1 month ago
@Thechristiancullen You don't need religion to deal with grief. The happiest nations on Earth are the least religious (Sweden, Denmark, Norway, etc.) People die there all the time. Religion is completely superfluous to the flourishing of human happiness, including dealing with getting diagnosed with a disease. Religion, on the other hand, promises you everlasting life - for which there is NO evidence - because that's what primitive Bronze Age peasants believed.
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
@LukeScientiae The "happiest" countries are depopulating themselves through self- genocide, high suicide rates, depression etc.
Seems strange that the atheists in these happy nations may well become aboringines in their own countries thanks to the stupidity of atheism and humanism.
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@Thechristiancullen Absolute bull. The countries I mentioned have low depresson and suicide rates - you're repeating complete nonsense you heard somewhere and you haven't checked your facts. I live in Sweden, so don't try to bullshit me. Countries with highest suicide rates in the world: Lithuania, S. Korea, Guyana, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Japan, Hungary, Russia, Latvia, Slovenia, Sri Lanka, Ukraine, Serbia & Montenegro... Typical believer citing nonsense in defence of faith.
LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
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LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae Excuse me -calm down mate; you don't want to get a bad case of Village Atheist Syndrome.
Austria is the only country which records the religious belief of parents but their figure, of 0.85 children per atheist woman, is far below replacement rate (2.1) and below even the most barren European country's average rate, which is about 1.2. And since most people inherit their parents' political and religious world views, this is bad news for Team Dawkins and atheists.
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@Thechristiancullen So your assertion is based on data about 1 country, not one I mentioned, to make a point based on an assumption about kids and inheritance of belief. Convoluted and irrelevant. The question is, were you right to say that the happieset, atheist countrieS (plural) are committing "self-genocide": No they're not: lowest religiosity is in Scandinavia - the countries I listed have LOW suicide rates and rising populations. They have low depression rates too.
LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae I never mentioned Austria, it's not the most atheist country. According to a 2005 Eurobarometer poll, 54% of people say there is God. That's more religious than the most religious scandinavian country, Finland (which I didn't mention), 41% and even more behind, say, Sweden (23%). The population of Sweden, Demark and Norway have all been steadily rising since 1800s. So you're talking absolute nonsense in defence of your position. Big waste of everyone's time.
LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae Austria however is the only european country that has bothered to do some research on the effects of atheism. Atheist europeans are too listless and are committing self-genoside as a result. You have been sold the lie of humanism and atheism. Most Vikkings would rather make dishwashers than worry about the depopulation of europeans from europe.
Biblical Principle = whenever God's people (Israel) turned their back on HIM, they were led into captivity by oppressors.
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
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LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
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@Thechristiancullen Austria is NOT the only country to have done research on "the effects of atheism". There is no self-genocide; populations in Scandinavia are steadily rising and have been for a long time and "Vikkings" [sic] don't make dishwashers. It's precisely because they abandoned "Biblical principles", like the oppression of womena and gays, that atheistic societies are happier, freer of crime, have higher life expectancy, lower depression rates and all the rest.
LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae You need to travel more. The only reason Scandinavian and european growth and fertility rates remain high is that it is the immigrants who are having percentage wise the most babies. I worked in a hospital in London for 2 years and the most common baby boys name is now Mohammed - once you include all the different kinds of spelling it.
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@Thechristiancullen Travel even more? I don't think I'd have the time. I've lived all over the world. Your anecdotal experience from a London hospital is neither a genuine statistical sample, nor does it have anything to do with Scandinavia. And it's completely irrelevant to the fact that the freer of religion societies get, the happier and healthier they get. You can go and make more facts up, and offer more Bible babble if you like, but I don't have the time. Sorry.
LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae Have you driven around Malmo lately?
Currently the future looks so bleak that by one estimate, around 30 Jewish families have already left - The Telegraph 4th Jan 2012
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
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LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
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@Thechristiancullen ... and there you go again: anecdotal evidence about something utterly irrelevant to your original point. A minority of far-right nutters in Malmö does not mean that "Sweden is committing self-genocide". It's obvious you will continue contributing more alarmist, faith-driven nonsense, irrespective of its truth or relevance to anything said before. So there's no point continuing; you're a faith-head with no respect for rational discourse. Bye now.
LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae A taste of your future - Hate crimes, mainly directed against Jews, doubled last year with Malmo's police recording 79 incidents and admitting that far more probably went unreported. As of yet, no direct attacks on people have been recorded but many Jews believe it is only a matter of time in the current climate.
The city's synagogue has guards and rocket-proof glass in the windows, while the Jewish kindergarten can only be reached through thick steel security doors.
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae Your pampered european western civilisation was built on the Bible babble, christian principles and the Protestant Work Ethic.
Why are you blind to what is happening within your own country?
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae Malmo 2009 - a chapel serving the city's 700-strong Jewish community was set ablaze. Jewish cemeteries were repeatedly desecrated, worshippers were abused on their way home, and "Hitler" was mockingly chanted in the streets.
Atheism cannot give freedom.
Although terrible things have been done in the name of religion, the fact remains that Christianity and the Hebrew Bible form the foundation stone of Western civilisation and its great cause of human equality and freedom
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae I quote facts about your own civilisation yet you call me a faith-head with no respect for rational discourse.
In many parts of the world it requires critical thinking and rational discourse to be the christian. Shalom
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae Atheism is too weak to defend its own civilisation let alone invade anyone elses. You would think think that death of communist CCCP would have been a lesson for europeans; but no. Atheism is so weak that it it actually correlates to a rise of islam.
Vikkings may soon be making great dishwashers and vacum cleaners for the muslim oppressors. Shalom
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported the following:
"Religiously unaffiliated subjects (atheists) had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation."
Atheist vikkings may make good vacum cleaners but is too weak to defend itself against islamic conquest. Vikkings may become aborigines in their own countries thanks to the stupidity of atheism. Shalom
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
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@Thechristiancullen Secondly, countries like Sweden are not "depopulating themselves through self-genocide" you ignoramus. Since 1800s Sweden's population, for example, has risen about 1 million every 25 years. Not decreased. Clearly you don't care whether what tell other people is true. Again, typical of believers defending blind faith.
LukeScientiae 3 weeks ago
@LukeScientiae It is not a case of science v God - its like saying apples v having a happy marriage - who makes such stupid videos?
Thechristiancullen 1 month ago
@Thechristiancullen Couldn't agree more here, the premise of the title makes no sense at all.
zackersquackers 1 month ago
I DONT BELIEVE IN JESUST CRIST BUT I BELIEVE THERE SOMETHING OUT THERE LIKE THE ALINES NOT GOD
x3sylox3 4 months ago
SCIENCE FUCKING RULES
retrogamerist 4 months ago
science will begin to suffer devastating blows.
mingacorre 5 months ago
i have a question
dear scientist,can u explain about the levitating rock in saudi arabia?
are there scientist tat believe in god?
reignevil 5 months ago
@reignevil I can explain it, it's the phenomenon called Photoshopium! Made me chuckle thought. Just do a picture search on "levitating rock in saudi arabia" and your doubts will be verified.
My conjecture is that science is missing something more than what it can measure. And I have known scientists that believe in god, but I am not such a person.
UkPolyboyYT 5 months ago
@reignevil the rock can be explain nd yes einstine believe in a god but not in a religious way. he believed that god is real just not watching us and judging us
jwillxxxxx 4 months ago
@reignevil i can explain... :)... first of all, it is not even known where is that rock found, some say in Saudi Arabia, some in Jerusalem.... but if you search more.... you will find different rocks levitating in the same place.. (photoshopped)... :(.... (there is no proof that that rock exists)
DrKillaser 3 months ago
@reignevil Show me proof of the levitating rock, then we can talk. And I don't mean anecdotes (the first kind of unreliable evidence), I don't mean some rantings of some nutcase immam, and I don't mean photoshopped fakes. I want proof that a rock in Saudi Arabia is levitating. Without that, there is nothing to talk about.
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
whats so wrong believeing theres a god? god is beyond our understanding.
explaining god is like explaining sound to a deaf person, they can get a vague idea of it but they will never understand.
ThePlatoon4 6 months ago
@ThePlatoon4 So are you saying that religious texts are useless because they are all trying to convey something that cannot be conveyed?
I agree that there may well be something around us that we cannot comprehend and so I don't worry about trying to define it. I just observe the results. The results I see are not from a book but from my day to day experiences that often fill me with delight and wonder. I use books to open my mind, not constrain it.
I have a wonderful thing - free will.
GOODTHOUGHTSUK 6 months ago 2
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@ThePlatoon4
"god is beyond our understanding."
-Then there is absolutely no validity in your, or anybody else's explanation of god whatsoever.
nolobede 3 months ago
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@nolobede then there was no point to your comment -.-
ThePlatoon4 1 month ago
@ThePlatoon4
The only reason why god was created by ancient man was to explain something they could not currently understand . man has in current times created the equations needed to create other universes out of our own yet it would take the equivelant of a google of amount of the energy created by the sun to create just one and even then we would have no control over it, because it would break of from our own universe just as quickly as it was created.
LEKXIKDARK 3 months ago
So its not that "GOD" is beyond our level of understanding its just that he probably never existed in the first place.
And then again why should todays society even belive in something that does not even explain evolution or in detail the creation of our universe. but please dont missunderstand me im all for Philosophy as much as science i just feel and know in my heart and "soul"(aka Mind) that god does not exist and ive known this and called bullshit on it from day one, so FUCK GOD.
LEKXIKDARK 3 months ago
@LEKXIKDARK wait.
so i dont have an afterlife and all the people i care about will fade into the obscurity of history?
gee i feel so much better now asshole D:<
ThePlatoon4 3 months ago
@ThePlatoon4 I am sorry, but yea pretty much.
well it makes me feel awsome knowing that my life and everything I see around me will fade away into the distant memory of universal history. and the reason for that is very simple, Every moment in life is that much more beautiful and your love for those close to you grows that much stronger when you realise that God,heaven and hell simply does not exist.
Thank you all for reading this. have a nice life, and learn from my words ^^
LEKXIKDARK 1 month ago
@LEKXIKDARK you know whats interesting? it's actually possible to have a God. the only problem is proving it.
ThePlatoon4 3 months ago
@ThePlatoon4 yeah sure !!!! if god gave us logic to use and think with , then why his/her ( why is anyone refering to god as a male?) comprehension is beyond of our logic resulting in the state of not understanding and further doubting his/her existance????
Xatzhkwstas 1 month ago
@Xatzhkwstas wtf what did i just say
ThePlatoon4 1 month ago
@ThePlatoon4 To answer your question about what is wrong with believing in a god: There is no good evidence to suggest that any gods exist. It is wrong to accept things for which insufficient evidence exists. History provides many examples of tragedies that result from people accepting unevidenced beliefs (many of them religious). You can say "god is beyond our understanding" but you can replace the word god in that with anything (e.g. "wizardry"). Does that make it real? No.
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
@ThePlatoon4 To emphasize: replace "god" in "god is beyond our understanding" with "white racial superiority". So "white racial superiority is beyond our understanding". Does that make it a sound belief? Something to go around convinced that it's true? Something to base your actions on? No. The logic is completely ridiculous. So why say it as though it worked for "god" and not for "white racial superiority"? If something is beyond your understanding, then you can't say it's true.
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
@LukeScientiae then that means there was really no point in your comment if it was already wrong. so wtf -.-
ThePlatoon4 1 month ago
@ThePlatoon4 My comment discussed the logic of YOUR suggestion that god cannot be understood as though that was some kind of meaningful excuse for belief in him. The logic of THAT claim (yours) doesn't make any sense, because "god" can be exchanged with any other phrase, so it's not an argument for god at all. I think you've probably missed the point of my last two comments. (Even though it wasn't subtle.)
LukeScientiae 1 month ago
@LukeScientiae then why the hell do you have to prove it if its right? how is changing what i believe affect you in the slightest?
ThePlatoon4 1 month ago
@MrNightranger86 Thanks. I do hope it makes people think and question what they believe, not just to dispute them but to strengthen them. Sometimes people don't do this for fear of losing something that they feel is part of them. But I think there are many other wonderful things that easily fill these "gaps".
It is very healthy to question "unquestioned assumptions", and this applies to both the religious and scientific world.
GOODTHOUGHTSUK 6 months ago
If god created us and controls the universe, where did god come from? everything should have a beginning.
ma8740 6 months ago 5
@ma8740 How did the unvierse originated? can you explian that to me?
necrohound 6 months ago
@necrohound GOD NEEDED TO FART BUT HE ACCIDENTLY POOPED WITH A BIG EXPLOSION WHICH WE CALL THE BIG BANG.
ma8740 6 months ago
@ma8740 I don't know if there is a god or where he or she may have come from. Why should everything have a beginning? Some scientists say that the universe is expanding from a single point and will return to one only to do the exact same thing again. This may be happening forever. Time may not exist at the single point and so the question becomes meaningless. But what use is the answer to any of this?
Try this question: "How can I be happy?" Isn't the answer to this more useful?
GOODTHOUGHTSUK 6 months ago
@GOODTHOUGHTSUK I find it hard to visualize the universe without a single beginning point because thinking about that point gets me thinking about the origin of that point; If the process of expanding from and contracting to a single point happens, when did this process actually start? Maybe the beginning of this process cannot be xplained with the concept of time; Maybe we need something higher to xplainn the channel of the process.
ma8740 6 months ago
@ma8740 But ask yourself how would your life change if you did have the answer to this question. Surely there would just be another question to replace it as no one person can know everything with a finite life.
It comes down to whether you want to question life or experience it. Yes you can do both but you then experience life with confusion and doubt, and don't really experience it. We all have a limited time on this earth and so we should be really certain that what we are doing is right.
UkPolyboyYT 6 months ago
@GOODTHOUGHTSUK "useful" is not a word scientists usually equate with the value of their work. The value of scientific knowledge is the knowledge itself. Scientists just want to know. It is a curiosity that is not found in those who believe in the supernatural, god or creationism...(which it seems you have varying degrees of belief in each.)
No wonder you lack the curiosity of a real scientist...you have given up and have conceded defeat.
tapasoflife 3 months ago
I appreciate the question, I don't know that how people start thinking about GOD how and where he come from. Instead of this if you thing from where and how We come from .. so you will get your answer.
Okay let me make it simple for you. to understand the Creator first we need to understand the creation. First think WHO are u? where did you come from ? whats you purpose of life? and where do you go after this? If you get the answer of this defiantly you will get answer of GOD
shahzoorbhatti 1 month ago
@ma8740 you dont reallly understand time sience is too young dont even think about were god came from cause yu will never kno untill you die. maybe he is outside of space and time.. he is in a differnt frequency than us so we can detect him or the beings of his frequency
jwillxxxxx 4 months ago
@ma8740 no necessarily:) Everything needs a beginning when it comes to time, I was skeptical too, and I went and did my own research. I learned in all of my reading and searching that with time, there is cause and effect, and in Christianity, God is in a realm where time doesn't exist, and something that exists in such a realm doesn't necessarily need a cause to exist. Hope I explained it where it can be understood. Peace Bro!
5KnuckleShuffle94 2 months ago
@5KnuckleShuffle94 Incorrect. Only the flying spaghetti monster fits the scientific evidence we have today. For your god has no noodly appendages whatsoever, and that's obviously wrong. The universe could not be created without noodly appendages. Its structure is inherently noodly. What do you think string theorists have finally discovered? His sauce be upon you. Rahmen.
Enginmaster 2 months ago
God is the one, who is not having any beginning and end. It is the human psychology, he tries to see the world in his own manner, that's why we think about God as we think about ourselves. To understand the God we need to think beyond to our typical thinking.
shahzoorbhatti 1 month ago
Science is the knowledge that was also created by God. We all know that Science has some limits and there are lot of things that needs to be discovered. the scientists of 18th or 19th century had different prospective i.e. Atom can not be divided but with the passage of time, we came to know that YES we can further divide atom. So we can not say that Science is reliable on ALL.
shahzoorbhatti 1 month ago
Everything is created by someone,so the Whole Universe is one of them. Now the question raised in our mind that everything is created by someone so ...GOD... :-) my dear God is not a thing .. He is GOD
shahzoorbhatti 1 month ago
Great video! I think we need to find out what exactly makes life to determine if it's logical or not because life is something no one can explain.
rocketjav11 6 months ago
@rocketjav11 Don't forget to look at people as well as the physical world in your investigations! They are much harder to understand and are more important than rocks!
GOODTHOUGHTSUK 6 months ago
Q1: no Q2: yes
ILoveKira1209 7 months ago
The answer: watch?v=fE8VO6z4tcg
JungleJargon 7 months ago
The 1st question is flawed.
The answer to the 2nd question is yes.
kingdevon101 7 months ago
@kingdevon101 Can you elaborate on that?
GOODTHOUGHTSUK 7 months ago
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@GOODTHOUGHTSUK We know too little about the universe to determine logicality.
kingdevon101 7 months ago
@theplatoon4 yeah but he's all forgiving so it doesn't matter Haha. What if only atheists get in heaven because they use the logical minds God gave them to pass the test, the test being that religion is the cause of most war and murder so to avoid it and use logic , which he gave us, then at the end all the logical atheists who lead good meaningful lives get to party in heaven
theUKatheist 7 months ago
@theUKatheist Nice dream! In the back of your mind are you still hoping to get into heaven?
I've heard that if you don't ask pretty people out then they'll ask you out too!
Perhaps try to use your logical mind to investigate all the illogical things in the world? I'm not even suggesting exploring god, but just people. Most logical people never try and instead ignore the things that are right in front of them every day of their lives.
GOODTHOUGHTSUK 7 months ago
@911BeganTheEndOfGod i guess you'll find out who as right when you die :)
ThePlatoon4 8 months ago
@ThePlatoon4 no, you just die. there is absolutely zero evidence to support that anything happens after you die. you are a product of your brain, when your brain dies you die.
theUKatheist 7 months ago
@theUKatheist
but if there is a god it would be pretty awkward standing in front of him after saying that. heheh
(joking)
ThePlatoon4 7 months ago
god didn't create science. I created science
ThePantyDroper 8 months ago
If there was a God then why would he want a scientific backlash?
whiskeygoggles 8 months ago
As God did not create evil, why is he constituted with having to create science?
steeleingod 8 months ago
God is both.
MsWolverine98 9 months ago
lol! God created science!
teta809 9 months ago
@teta809 You cant prove there is a god. Oh yea and I'm your long lost dad.
EthernalExhile 9 months ago
@teta809 There's no proof. Explain how God created science, it doesn't make sense.
Zero14811111 9 months ago
there is no creator! you cannot possibly know this! all what you are saying you cannot possibly know! where in the bible does it say all this? ... and even if it did a man wrote it. if you live of faith and no evidence then your a moron. simple as that. you believe because its how you were raised, its simple! .. think about this, in NO other circumstance would you ever think this way, every other aspect in your life is governed by reality and the laws of science. apart from a FAITH BASED BELIEF!
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist the bible and directly made by ''god'' for him to be the god you believe .
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And where did you pull that from?
I am not a Christian!
I am a Shiite Muslim!
No dodging the questions and quibbling in vain!
YES OR NO?
Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *** unknowing and unperceiving ***, is his creator and that of all beings?
1tabligh 9 months ago
@theUKatheist AGAIN Is that which is necessary in essence and which is considered the first source of existence matter itself or something else beyond the limits of matter?
Dodging ALL the questions and quibbling in vain!
Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions!
Deluded atheist looks at the world with BOTH eyes *closed* and, as a result, are unable to answer ALL the questions!
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh i dont look at things with any eyes closed, i am open to any possibility, including a creator , but 99.99% of me does not believe this and until a reason to believe comes then i will not change my opinion, why should i. if anyone has their eyes closed its theists, they definitely look at everything blindly, thinking they already know everything, they DO NOT LOOK PAST THEIR BELIEFS! and THAT is the problem, there are MANY possibilities, open YOUR eyes to them all, not just "god did it!
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist Your delusions that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your claim is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories. Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, ....
1tabligh 9 months ago
everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim, ...
1tabligh 9 months ago
to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.
Some people try to propagate this *fantasy* in the garb of science and to present their choice as having been dictated by scientific thought. In the final analysis, however, the denial involved in such an assertion is unworthy of science and philosophy, and even *contradicts* empirical logic.
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh science cant prove there is no god because if there was a god it wouldn't be science, also the burden of proof is on the individual/s with the claim that a god exists, to prove something does not exist is nonsensical. i'll stick with reality thanks, and if anything supernatural occurs i may change my mind. there is absolutely no reason to believe a god exists. the same with any other mythological character.
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist If man, through the application of scientific instruments and criteria, cannot perceive the existence of a thing, he cannot deny its existence simply because it is incompatible with material criteria, unless he disposes of some proof that the thing in question is impossible.
We discover the existence of an objective law from within the totality of phenomena that it is capable of interpreting.
1tabligh 9 months ago
If, then, the establishment of scientific truth is possible only by means of direct sensation, the majority of scientific truths will have to be discarded, since many scientific facts cannot be perceived by means of sensory experience or *testing.*
When the experimental sciences demonstrate that the elements and natural facrtors cannot exert any independent influence and do not possess any creativity;
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh you keep talking rubbish about materialism and our own reality etc, this simply means you CANNOT PROVE GOD WITHOUT MAGIC & SUPERSTITION! if this is the case then please stop replying because your a moron and are stupid enough to believe things on blind faith. your so dumb you dont care if its true or not. you dont care if your whole life is a lie. if you did you would be open to all possibilities and LOOK BEYOND YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM! but you wont because your a brainwashed f*cking moron!
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist Those who refuse to worship God find themselves prostrating before their inner idol; passion and desire rule every dimension of their beings.
Self-worship is a dangerous sickness that with its different manifestations in the individual and social life of man entails the most tragic misfortunes and disorders. It creates a powerful barrier between man and the truth and results in the breakdown of man's capacities of perception and the blinding of his inner being.
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh talking rubbish yet again, you have yet to produce any evidence. If you keep babbling on with your stupid rants without any proof then there conversation is over. All your doing is trying to sound smart but you're coming across as really stupid with the crap you are coming out with, give evidence that counts in the real world or just give it a rest you moron! No doubt your reply will be something idiotic and along the lines of stay you already have said, again without evidence
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist Is it at all feasible to regard all the geometry, functioning and movement of the universe as the outcome of matter in its ignorance?
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh you do not understand the big bang fully please stop pretending that you do. i ask you is it feasible to believe in a God that there is absolutely no evidence for? again if you reply with idiotic non-evidential ramblings the conversation is over, talk properly in real debate format or just do not reply , you make no valid points.
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist you do not understand the big bang fully please stop pretending that you do......
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If you will still persist in your ignorance at least assure me as to when this *big bang* created itself-whether it did it before it came into existence, or afterwards?
If you say afterwards, your assertion is absurd. Because it is impossible for a thing to create its own self when it was already created.
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1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh it is you that is ignorant. if you actually knew the big bang theory you would see that it IS possible for the universe to come from what YOU define as nothing, but was merely a very simple state of space, you believe instead of the universe developing from a simple state, that an almighty god was there already? how is that logically sound? why cant a simple state always have existed? you think God came from nowhere used Magic to create things from nothing. YOU ARE THE IGNORANT ONE!
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist ...it IS possible for the universe to come from what YOU define as nothing,...
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Poor fella!
Let us see YOUR scientific understanding.
Go to the laboratory, and do an experiment with little of NOTHING, and then mix it with a LOT of NOTHING, and GUESS WHAT!
YOU WILL GET THIS SPECTACULAR UNIVERSE!
From NOTHING comes NOTHING!
What science is this?
What man of science are you?
Come back when you get something out of nothing!
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh this whole comment makes you look even dumber. You do realise i have given you an explanation , and i have pointed you in the direction of a lecture to explain it in detail. yet you still say this jibberish. i have also asked you several times to explain how you think a god came from nothing and you have yet to answer, it seems i answer all your questions with logical responses and point you to EVIDENCE yet you come back with nothing. watch the lecture and educate yourself. moron!
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist ...Lawrence Krauss actually explains IN DETAIL ...
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Then ask YOUR "Lawrence Krauss" where did it come from?
And ask him also to get YOU "a very simple state of spaceout" including billions of dollars and pounds for himself and you from NOTHING!
And then come back to me!
Poor duped and deluded fella!
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh your really starting to get on my nerves, i showed you a way to see for your self how the universe could come from nothing, AND i explained it to you my self. why the f*ck are you still asking me?
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist what is the cause and origin of matter-energy?"
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh WATCH THE LECTURE I GAVE YOU!!! ..IT EXPLAINS IT!!!!... WHY ARE YOU STILL ASKING ME !!???!!!!!??
theUKatheist 9 months ago
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@theUKatheist what is the cause and origin of matter-energy?"
1tabligh 9 months ago
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@theUKatheist what is the cause and origin of matter-energy?"
1tabligh 9 months ago
We can raise precisely the same objection against the duped atheists and ask them, "If we follow the chain of causality back, we will ultimately reach the primary cause. Let us say that cause is not God, but matter. Tell us who created primary matter. You who believe in the law of causality, answer us Ws: if matter is the ultimate cause of all things, what is the cause of matter?
You say that the source of all phenomena is matter-energy; what is the cause and origin of matter-energy?"
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh WATCH!! THE!! F*CKING!! LECTURE!! YOU!! DUMB!! SH*T!!
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist What is the PRIME CAUSE of ALL EXISTENCE?
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh WTF after all that i gave you you just change the question without acknowledging the last one? are you f*cking mental or something? i just proved to you that the universe can be created via the big bang and you go to the next question without even acknowledged it. i also asked you in your belief WHERE DID GOD COME FROM??? i showed you a logical POSSIBLE explanation and you show me nothing.
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@1tabligh there is no cause, why does there have to be?? we are an accident in an infinitely expanding universe. do you know how insignificant we are to the grand scale of the universe? life here was an accident, simple, enjoy it while you can. there does not have to be a cause for it. the universe is NOT perfect and is NOT made for us, to think this is just f*cking small minded and stupid. you may not like the idea that we are not special and there is no heaven.....but so what, GROW UP!
theUKatheist 9 months ago
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@theUKatheist YOU!! DUMB!! SH*T!!
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Bye bye!
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
And the servants of the Beneficent God are they who walk on the earth in humbleness, and when the ignorant address them, they say: Peace.
( The Quran Chapter 25, Verse 63)
1tabligh 9 months ago
"And the parable of those who disbelieve is as the parable of one who calls out to that which hears no more than a call and a cry; deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand. "
The Quran 2:171
Surely the vilest of animals, in God's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who do not understand.
The Quran Chapter 8, Verse 22
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh .....f*ck you im done, you are the dumbest person i have ever talked too. you're someone who doesn't care if what they believe and how they live their life is based on truth or not, , you cant answer simple questions .. you quote a book to prove that book is right .. you cant be bothered to watch a lecture to prove you wrong .. you cant question your own beliefs .. you dont acknowledge any evidence given , instead you just discard it. its actually frustrating . you're a fucking idiot!
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist ....YOU!! DUMB!! SH*T!! ....fucking idiot! ....
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Same stupid arguments when cornered and intellectually whipped and defeated!!
When these wannabe monkey atheists, can't refute your arguments scientifically, then they resort to the same stupid argument, "....YOU!! DUMB!! SH*T!! ....fucking idiot! ...." and hide their ignorance and arrogance behind it's stupid pretext!
"...deaf, dumb (and) blind, so they do not understand. "
The Quran 2:171
1tabligh 9 months ago
And this is what the ATHEISTS fail to understand and in their misguided blindness and bewilderment they are like the blind people groping right and left not knowing the purpose for this Universe, and unaware of the underlying ingenuity, they might begin to reprimand the architect of the Universe in their offensive rage, whereas, as a matter of fact, the fault lies with their own inability to see.
1tabligh 9 months ago
This analogy holds good in the case of those who deny the creative factor and the argument in favour of Divine Design. Failing to appreciate the merit of their provision, the perfection of creation and the beauty of design, they start wandering in the wide world, bewildered by their inability to grasp with their brains the underlying causes and principles. Mankind is perplexed and bewildered, blind, infatuated in their perverseness, following
1tabligh 9 months ago
their devils and spectres. They have eyes but do not see, they have tongues but are dumb, and do not understand. They have ears but do not hear. They are happy in their contemptible degradation. They presume that they are well-guided. They are diverted from the rank of rational beings. They feed on the vegetation of' polluted dirty people. They deem themselves safe from a sudden visitation of death and the retribution of deeds. Alas! How ill fated are these people!
1tabligh 9 months ago
Since the chain of causality cannot recede into infinity, they can answer only that matter is an eternal and timeless entity for which no beginning can be posited: matter is non-created, has no beginning or end, and its being arises from within its own nature. This means that the materialists accept the principle of eternity and non-origination; they believe that all things arose out of eternal matter and that being arises from within the very nature of matter, without any need for a creator.
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh you keep saying the same sh*t and i am NOT continuing the conversation any longer, . You pretend you want the answers but when i give them to you you cant be bothered to f*cking look, i gave you that lecture to answer these for you yet you keep asking. im not sure what else to do, your too retarded to watch something! you need to educate yourself. you are really the dumbest person ive spoken too. you wont even watch a lecture to explain your own questions, YOU ARE DUMB AS F*CK!
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@1tabligh i think you're just copying and pasting this crap, are you taking the mick? if you were for real and had an ounce of intelligence you would watch the lecture i have given you to answer the questions you repeatedly keep asking. im not sure what else i can do, if you dont want your questions answering then stop f*cking asking ! if you do want them answering then just WATCH THE LECTURE I GAVE YOU!! .. just stop being such a dumb fuck already, if you want answers watch it
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist..copying and pasting ...
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The argument of an IGNORANT!
Dodging ALL the questions and quibbling in vain!
Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions!
Deluded atheist looks at the world with BOTH eyes *closed* and, as a result, are unable to answer ALL the questions!
How do deluded and duped atheists, who believe that matter is accompanied by its antithesis, justify the eternity of matter/energy?
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh this is a wind up, im not answering any more, if it is or is not a wind up i just cant be bothered with dumb people like you. you said you wanted answers,i have them to you. if you dont care about your own belief and reality then i simply do not care. im not replying no more., if you wont help yourself then i am not going to do it for you. if you reply with one more stupid comment im going to simply block your dumb ass, in fact im going to do that now, EDUCATE YOURSELF! bye moron
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF QUIBBLING IN VAIN!
Eternity means stability and immutability of essence, the impossibility of cessation, but matter/energy is in its essence a compendium of forces and potentialities; it is relativity itself, totally caught up in living and dying.
Eternity is incompatible with the mode of being possessed by matter and the factors and attributes necessitated by its nature.
1tabligh 9 months ago
The belief of those who have faith in God concerning a fixed and absolute principle relates to a being who in and of his nature can accept stability and absoluteness; his nature is completely devoid of and remote from the properties of matter.
The very nature of matter refuses permanence, eternity and continuity, for it can never separate itself from movement, relativity, and it stands in opposition to being a prime or absolute agent.
1tabligh 9 months ago
All beings were originally non-beings; they were non-existent, and then they became existent. Deluded atheists wish to say that the energy/matter/univers/natural forces/ etc are eternal, but this notion is incorrect for the following reasons:
First, if the material energy/matter/univers/natural forces/ etc are eternal, it follows that an eternal being should be subject to change and cessation, which is impossible. ...
1tabligh 9 months ago
"Second, if the elements comprising the energy/matter/univers/natural forces/ etc are eternal by virtue of their essence, how is it possible that they should enter the embrace of death and disappearance?
And if, conversely, they lack life in their essences, how can life surge forth from them?
"If you say that living beings emerge from living elements and inanimate beings from inanimate elements, we reply that an essence that ...
1tabligh 9 months ago
@theUKatheist your dumb ass
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lacks life in and of itself cannot be eternal and cannot be the source for life.
Belief in the eternity of the energy/matter/univers/natural forces/ etc is held by those who deny the existence of a ruler and planner of creation, reject the messengers of God, regard the books they bring as the fables of the ancients, and **** concoct **** beliefs pleasing to themselves..
So much "dumb ass" science for this brainless pseudo-Scientific Demagogue!
1tabligh 9 months ago
In just the same way that atheist regards matter as eternal, believers in God attribute eternity to God. Belief in an eternal being is then common to materialist and religious philosophers: both groups agree that there is a primary cause, but believers in God regard the primary cause as wise, all-knowing, and possessing the power of decision and will, whereas in the view of the materialists, the primary cause has neither consciousness, intelligence, perception, nor the power of decision.
1tabligh 9 months ago
Whatever is stable and immutable in its essence cannot accept movement and change within that essence.
How do deluded and duped atheists, who believe that matter is accompanied by its antithesis, justify the eternity of matter/energy?
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture ..
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist you're a fucking idiot! ...watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch the lecture .. watch
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I have already!
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh haha does your religion teach you to be dishonest ??? YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED IT! how the F*ck can you watch an hour long lecture in the space of 10 minutes. you're dumb as fuck. you're obviously not bothered about answering hte questions you have so get lost. you're too dumb to watch something! haha. get lost
theUKatheist 9 months ago
@theUKatheist How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
1tabligh 9 months ago
@theUKatheist This parasites will never undertsd...they are close-minded people who does not like to think
RichtoffenRoach 8 months ago
The purpose of your assertion would be that the *big bang* made itself twice. It would mean that its first endeavours consisted in creating itself, and when it was quite ready and created, it created itself again. This is the most *absurd* and impossible theory-the acquisition of what is already acquired.
If you say that it created itself before it came into existence, it is really *stupid*. Because it was absolutely nothing before it came into existence.
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1tabligh 9 months ago
How is it possible for a non-existing thing to create another thing (*big bang*) ? You consider my belief in an existing thing (God) that creates another non-existing thing (*big bang*) as absurd. But you do not consider your own, as to the non-existing thing having the power to create an already existing thing,(*big bang*) as absurd and stupid.
Be yourself the judge, and tell me whose theory is absurd and irrational.?
1tabligh 9 months ago
@1tabligh time as we know it before the big bang did not exist and did not flow in a straight line and was impossible to predict. also there are particles known as dark matter that jump in a