god bless those who kill innocent men for doing their jobs, and condemn those who do the job that is their profession... this is what every bible hugging tea bagger thinks, and it disgusts me.
abortion is a females right, and it should be. dr. tiller was not a horrible man, but a man who was just doing his job.
I'll say this. Whether you're pro-life or pro-choice---if you walked past a dumpster near an abortion clinic and heard a baby cry, yet did nothing about it, you're as guilty as the doctor or the woman with the unwanted pregnancy. Rot in hell if you'll walk past a dumpster with a crying baby, with its limbs torn off as it starves to death.
@FalconMan1960 the fuck are you talking about. an abortion is done during the embryonic stage before a baby is born. "dumpster children" happen in backwards redneck america where women are forced to carry children.
@myopinion1988 If you have not been able to pick up that I was being completely satirical, truth is, I don't support his murder to any degree. However, I just love mocking the pro choice hypocrisy that floods these websites. And speaking of propaganda, do you have any education in this beyond the public schools or an abortion clinic?
@myopinion1988 Pro Life propaganda? Honey, I've studied biology for three years. There is hardly such a thing. Life as in independent human growth and development begins at conception. That's not propaganda, that's a scientific fact. As for being necessary, shoving forceps into the pre nate's head to destroy the brain is hardly necessary when a pre mature or early birth could have been induced.
@myopinion1988 But it was his CHOICE!! What kind of country is this where a man can't make the CHOICE abort a baby killer without the ANTI CHOICE movement imprisoning him for his own personal decision? You anti choicers are so mid eval and barbaric! You ANTI CHOICE bigot!
Scott Roeder is a Hero! He removed a scumbag baby killer from out streets. He should be awarded the Medal of Honor for removing Tiller the Baby Killer who murdered over 50,000 innocent defenseless babies. George Tiller is in hell right now and Scott Roeder is going to Heaven. God Bless Scott Roeder!!!!!!!!
@fasteddie847 Wow, I'm very impressed it is amazing to show your real pro-life beliefs. Apparently you are a bit confused as to what the meaning of pro-life is. Let me guess, you support capital punishment, war, you must eat meat and so condone the slaughter of countless innocent animals. You are so pro-life, aren't you?
@angelic6465 I am pro life. I would have liked to see the 50,000 innocent defenseless babies that Tiller the Baby Killer murdered alive. And I'm also a Christian. God calls for the execution of people like Tiller. Murder is fine with God as long as it's justified and this one here was more than justified. It says in the Bible that God hates those who shed innocent blood. Let's see here, I think that would fit for Tiller killed 50,000 innocent babies who couldn't even talk. Rot in Hell Tiller
@fasteddie847 LMFAO. I guess you kind of missed the fact that what Tiller did was LEGAL and what Roeder did was ILLEGAL. You live in a society of LAWS. If your sky daddy has a problem with our laws, he can settle the score in the afterlife. Till then, you belong in a mental institution.
Way to go scotty! MOMMY did not love them & did not want them dancing in their bellies but the CHILDREN are dancing in their graves at your doings! Maybe not CUZ THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SO SWEET & THE SUNSHINE OF SOMEONES LIFE just not mommy's!
Angels however are singing! Guess he was lucky that mama wanted him or maybe she really did not want him? Maybe he surrounded by the babies now -justice served for all? I guess the doc?lol & babies r NOT buried close together-THEY NEVER GOT A NAME OR GRAVE!
If some Nazi racist son of a bitch was going around a maternity ward bashing African American babies heads in while cops were eating donuts and somebody without a badge shot the babykiller it's the crooked damn cops who ought tp be on trial for not doing their job. By Roe vs Wade and federal law a late term unborn child is legally a human being with human rights and Tiller wasn't anything but a Nazi son of a bitch who deserved to die as many times over as the babies he murdered.
How can you condone such horrible things, Cockroach2008? Doesn't it make you feel sick to say such things? You should readress your view of the world; you will be happier if you leave the viciousness behind.
@Turasawn I have no problem with it! You may not agree, but that is okay with me.
I believe we should put him in a place where he can watch his children & family being disemboweled with a knife. Then cut him apart.
The last thing he will ever see just before he dies, is his children being slaughtered. It will be the last thing to go through his mind before he takes his last breath.
So pleasant to think about for me. It warms the cockles of my heart!
@Cockroach2008 You have made a statement that can be used to legally justify killing you if you are ever seen around Roeder's kids on ground of intent to commit murder. I do not personally consider anyone who shares your views human beings entitled to human rights so I would be happy to cut YOUR head off if you ever get stupid enough to give me an excuse like trying to murder somebody's kids, Make my day punk, I'm an ex-101st Airborne retired professional killer for the US Army. Piss on you,
Your presence does not scare me. I have already been so close to Scott Roeder's children, an head shot would have ended the days for one of them. It is just a matter of time. Whatever you consider me, I don't care. You will just have to find me first. I will never make your day, for I can out fox you. I am a Navy Seal, also a professional killer.
We know where his family lives, telephone number, what his wife & children look like, what their vehicles look like, where his children attend school, when they attend school, where they make their purchases, when & who reads their utility meters, their garbage collection dates & times and who their neighbors are.
He is not in any position to do anything about it.
Wow, bohabb, so we should just kill unborn babies just because maybe they will hurt people in the future? That is the blindest, stupidest logic immaginable.
Another con nutjob bites the dust.....What a shitty little coward, like any bush supporter that you can find. Except we'll get to see this one zapped like a fly!! fun fun fun
There you go, Waverly--just believe in what your five physical senses happen to be able to detect, a truly thoughtful approach. I see that you are currently in no condition to accept reason or the deeper truth, but I hope that you will change in the future.
Thank you for proving the point that people who are blinded and preocupied by the things which stimulate the senses are incapable of sensing the deeper truths of existance, callouschristian (the name suits you well, but you would do well to lose the callousness).
Are you serious, Waverly? Are you really that mindless? I see that you are entirely opposed to reason and moral sense. You look at a case where a man killed thousands of innocent babies and was then justly punished for his crimes and your only outcry is against the guy who killed the demonic baby murderer. Perhaps you should read the Bible you ignorantly bash--get some kind of moral perspective in your life.
Now all the religious freaks of nature can take in all the unwanted babies that will be born. Oh no? U won't take care of a life but it's ok to end one when you misinterpret the bible to sate your own bloodlust? Sounds like what the suicide bombers do....religion in america is as bad as terrorism....fearmongering, torture, death, war, all in the name of religion. Nice to see mans inhumanity to man being blamed on a "god" instead of ignorant church people w 2 much fear to handle
Oh, toothbeaver, so, if someone doesn't want a baby, the moral decision is to murder that baby...okay, there's a good solution. Hey, instead of moral people who are against abortion taking care of these babies like you suggest in your ignorant snideness, how about the women who chose to get pregnant take care of the babies, hopefully along with their partners, rather than taking the cowardly and utterly evil approach of murdering their own developing children.
A baby is not a life unto it's own if it needs a mother's body to survive. You can't tie some one up for 9 months just because of your personal philosophies though I know you try like hell to do just that. Of course it's not about Jesus or Life with you people. It's about bullying and power. Stop kidding yourself. If there is a hell you are going lickety split and it is funny to watch.
Alright, callouschristian, it is apparent you are not big on listening to reason. If someone were to adopt your "life unto its own" philosophy, one would have to also believe that a born baby was not a real life, since, unarguably, an infant is 100% reliant on outside care to survive, and this is the case for the first few years of life. So, according to this demonic philosophy of yours, the lives of infants and toddlers--even up to the age of five, perhaps--should hold no value.
Do you really not see the difference between needing an umbilical cord to survive and needing TLC in the outside world. Let me help:"It Takes A Village" on the outside. On the inside it's just the blood of the mother which, like everything, you seem to have claimed entitlement. And you are wrong., mr advocate of "liberty" and "less government".
Needing an umbilical cord and needing TLC are technicalities; it is irrational, even from your cold, immoral perspective, to claim that it is right to kill a baby who relies on one and wrong to kill a baby who relies on the other--either way an innocent and defensless life is being destroyed. And, yes, a baby does have righful entitlement to its mother's care, before and after it is born; a mother who chooses to get pregnant has chosen to take the responsibility of a helpless life onto herself.
@callouschristian That is the way it should be to let the bastards die.
When a criminal parent sires a child, if one of the parents commits a crime, we need to exterminate them. Birthed or not, a criminal parent bears a criminal child.
Apples do not fall far from the tree. In fact, they fall directly under the tree.
If a tree bears bad fruit, exterminate the fruit & the tree. The order of extermination depends on where the most pain can be inflicted.
It is very obvious that a baby is born innocent; it is absurd to say that a child produced by a criminal is automatically guilty. The only way a person can become evil is through his own wrong choices.
Obvious to who? Not me! Criminal parent, criminal child. The model of the parent is set into the child.
If we want to bread the cycle, we need to eliminate those elements in the gene pool. The best way to break the chain is to eliminate any offspring. Since we advocate killing the parent, I think we should butcher the child (which breaks the chain), before the eyes of the parent immediately before we dispatch the parent!
@Cockroach2008 Your parents must have pimped you off to faggots or something for you to be as fucked up as you are but its your choice to stay fucked up until you give somebody an excuse to bodybag you or its your choice to pull your head out of your ass and join the human race. Your parents won't be the ones executed if you commit murder. That's on you not them. If having criminals for relatives justified murdering people that justifies killing anybody in the human race including you.
@Cockroach2008 You have a legal right to have your parents arrested for their crimes against you without being executed for that tainted blood bullshit the US Constitution specifically bans. Get your racist ass out of my country if you want to live long, Americans shoot racists
@Texasjim2007 Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy! You are certainly all worked up. I guess you should be since you appear to be mentally unbalanced. You need to seek the assistance of a medical professional or take your prescribed medications on schedule! Since you stopped taking them, you have been so off center.
I am not a racist! I just seek to deliver justice in the way that Scott Roeder will understand. His children & wife are such easy marks for disemboweling!
@Texasjim2007 Do americans shoot dogs? Does your post represent america. If so, then piss on america. (not really) You seem pissed-off, texasjizz2007. You infer your hatred for nazis. And you advocate killing abortion doctors. That america is the land of the free , where differing opinions means someone deserves to die. Oh, and you're a pathetic liar who claims to be a veteran of military service--" ex 101 ", "killer" etc. What you are is a pathetic lying little kid.
Unlike the deranged mind of a liberal some of us out there believe the innocent should be protected and the guilty be punished. He murdered innocent children. He who is guilty of murder was exterminated thus saving the innocent children he would have killed next because no one else would provide abortions that late in pregnancy. And yes killing Hitler halfway through the holocaust and thus saving innocent lives that he terminated in the second half would have been just too.
Oh great so it's all so subjective who is in charge of deciding who lives and dies? is it ignorant churchgoers who are so full of fear that they will believe whatever they have to in order to kill someone? Is it EVER ok to take a life if thou shalt not kill? Learn something real and not this pre-preinted bible bullshit that has changed forms countless times thanks to religious control freaks and fearmongers...just like Hitler! Religion is an affront to whatever does exist out there...losers
Are you really this irrational Toothbeaver? There is an obvious difference between killing an innocent baby and justly executing a viscious murderer. Oh, and if you knew anything about the Bible, you might understand that the context of Moses's law, which included "Thou shalt not kill" very clearly--and righfully so--allowed for the execution of murderers, such as Tiller.
Typical christian. Justifying murder with more murder and wondering why everybody gets sick of all the problems created by neo con christians. Defending Tiller by saying he should be executed. And your worried about the "gay agenda" with that crap logic?
Murder does not justify murder; murder justifes justice. Killing a man who has taken an innocent life is justice--not murder. Killing an unborn baby is murder and therefore justifies execution.
A true blue American hero he is. There arn't too many people left in this country that have the guts that that man did. Who knows how many lives he has saved. :)
ur a fucking retard. u think it's alright to shoot a man point blank in the head in front of his entire church and family? dude Christians are fucking stupid and really love violence.
A special thank you to Law Enforcement who have made sure that people like Scott Roeder are behind bars this Labor Day Weekend. We can all feel safe this holiday weekend because of their effort.
Yeah kansas babies from stupid ass unwed teen mothers, thats the life those babies should be leading. why dont u bible thumpers stop shooting people (thou shalt kill when u think its ok) and volunteer to take care of these babies so mothers wouldnt get abortions...oh no that's something christ would do. Kill yourselves and save some doctors...thats my argument lol, its just as valid!
IN your opinion it's wrong and as a guy I dont have much say nor am I ever getting one so I dont really think im going to hell. I know you religiosos get all horny and worked up telling people they will burn but sorry, you're dead wrong in my case, im sure someone out there needs to be told how righteous you are so go find them and preach on about how men need to feel this strongly about an issue they dont have to deal with personally
Scott Roeder, you continue to complain showing the nation what a coward and meek individual you are. Jesus was far from a coward. Jesus never complained about anything, yet, you always complain about prison and the food. Be happy you are eating - punk.
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Scott Roeder, you are a wimp in my eyes - stop your crying about jail and prison food. Take your coffee like a man! Grow up! This is a learning experience for you.
Now us taxpayers can take care of your family which you were to lazy and stupid to do for your self.
Scott Roeder you are a hero in my eyes as well as a hero in the poor defenseless lives of the babies that Tillman got away with murdering, Your in my prayers Scott.
Balls means accepting ones punishment without complaint. Scott Roeder has been whining from day one about the food and conditions in the jail. The food in jail isn't that bad. It is like hot lunch in high school. Scott is just a crybaby!
Yeah, and then cry about the conditions in the jail. Hero's don't cry! You never saw John Dillinger or John Gotti crying to people about there treatment or conditions. They took on the system and never cried like babies when caught.
If you want to call bad men hero's you better look at how they act when they do their time.
YEAH...Whatever. A hero you pleaded not guilty. Why doesn't he just own up and take his punishment like a man instead of wasting everyones time. What a loser.
This prisoner is evil. He deserves it! I would even go as far as capital punishment. Eye for an eye. Tooth for a tooth. He must be excecuted. George Tiller was just doing his job.
this cowards actions are exactly what religious faith encourages. Its a good thing that supposed Christians dont read their bibles and actually believe the bullshit content, otherwise you'd have atrocities committed on a daily basis. The Bible is the most potent convincing force for anti-theism ever conceived. READ IT!!!
how do you leave religion out of it? he did this because of his religious beliefs. and what do you mean "he is being tried for people like you and us" ? ? ?
only religion or absolute insanity would accommodate the actions of this asshole. For instance notthelastword says that his reward is not of this world. how the fuck do you subtract religion from that statement and remain intellectually honest? YOU CAN'T!!!
Scott Roeder broke the law of the United States and must be accountable for his behavior according to OUR LAWS here in this country. If Scott Roeder was a real man, he would realize what he did was illegal and shut up and take what our nation of laws gives him. Scott was not above the law and should not be given any preferential treatment. Unless he is part of the don't ask don't tell?
The laws are there to protect the citizens from people trying to execute their own laws on other people. If you would not pardon John Gotti, or gangmembers, do expect the majority to pardon Roeder.
The masses considered John Dillinger a hero, and he wasn't cut any slack. Let Roeder do his time, progress thru the system, like everyone else who commits a crime. Your morality or not, that is the way the system works and Scott Roeder is no exception. Unless he is a punk and cannot handleit.
Scott Roeder's bail is only a meer $10,000,000.00 cash, so why don't his supporters get together and post his bail? If you love someone, you make the ultimate sacrafice.
Scott Roeder is a hero to all innocent human beings throughout history who have been stripped of personhood for the purpose of extermination, oppression, slavery and torture. George Tiller is just another dead body. I suggest we throw his rotting corpse on top of the pile of other dead bodies and get on with our lives.
I wonder if you realize the flaw in your bullshit logic when considering that George Tiller was once a fetus too. why are you so adamant about protecting the unborn from being exterminated but not the life of a man who has a family who was killed by a Bible pedaling lunatic? like i said, george tiller was a fetus at one point in time too, dumbass!
Tiller WAS an innocent child at one time but he grew into evil profiteering cocksucker. As for your reference to the "bible", well, fuck Jesus, fuck the pope, fuck the catholic church and fuck the bible too. This isn't and never was a religious issue. This is and always will be a human rights issue. The human beings who were being exterminated by Tiller were innocent human beings. They did nothing to anyone. Tiller was a Nazi doctor and killing him and ever fucker like him should be applauded.
Yes, dickhead, and it wasn't anybody's fault that the extermination of "certain" human beings was legal in Germany in the 40's and it wasn't anybody's fault that the extermination of "certain" human beings was legal in America during the slave trade. Just because the extermination of "certain" human beings is legal doesn't make it any less than what it is and what is always was. Doctors who take part in the exterminatioin of human beings need to be put on trial for crimes against humanity.
Chill jesus, the guy is dead who r u to judge seriously man i know ur passionate about human rights but its also his right to be alive go be a politition and do something about it then
Tiller was involved in the extermination of human beings for profit. Although his method of exterminating these human beings has been deemed a legal "medical procedure", the human beings who are being exterminated by Tiller and those of his ilk are "chosen" like the Jews were "chosen" for extermination and like slaves were "chosen" to be chained, shackled, whipped and hung from trees. From plantation owners, to Hitler, to Tiller I have no sympathy whatsoever.
You don't have to love or respect Tiller! The problem I have with certain people is when they declare Scott Roeder a hero and wish to pardon his behavior, which is pure garbage.
No matter how anyone feels about Tiller's actions - Scott Roeder has to punished as any gangmember would be for a drive-by shooting.
He does look like a mental deficient but I hope he doesn't claim that as his defense. His trial should end right there: life without parole, no visitors, no video games, no TV...10 x 6 + toilet and small opening for some scraps of food. I wouldn't even build a door to his cell, save some money...... he will become someones bitch lol
Don't worry! They have the prosecutor from his bomb making trial who says that he is not insane. The insanity defense is rarely ever proven today. Most cases are lost when they use the insanity defense.
In Scott Roeder's case - you can't claim insanity when you are just plain stupid.
As far as the other, I think that is why his lawyer is asking for bail (which he will not get) because I am sure that some of the guys in lockdown are probably intimidating him.
This guy deserves what he's going to get for what he did. Tiller, while probably responsible for thousands of deaths, legally was innocent. That his soul was troubled is evidenced by the fact that he went to church regularly. Maybe this moron answered his own, and Tillers prayers at once. I don't get wrapped up in all the religious crap. Morally both were wrong, but only Roeder commited "murder", because the court doesn't recognize un-born children as people unless it serves their purpose.
If people who go to church have troubled souls, then right wing fundies are the most troubled people of all. Tiller 's courageous acts saved real lives in tragic cases where mothers and/or children could have suffered serious harm or even death if the simple-mind anti-abortionists had had their way.
So youre saying that the thousands of Abortions Tiller committed, they were to "save real lives"...meaning that even though as early as 18 days after conception a fetus has a heart beat, it's not a "real life". OK, So Tiller "courageously" performed these acts for free, right? A man of such courage saving all those thousands of lives...My heart swells with a newfound pride at his courageous and selfless acts. To forsake a life of luxury as a GP, or Surgeon to save lives like that for free...Wow.
Gee teckno2600, exactly as many people that voted your comment "up" voted mine "down". What a coincidence. I'll bet they were "tekno1600-3600-and4600)
god bless those who kill innocent men for doing their jobs, and condemn those who do the job that is their profession... this is what every bible hugging tea bagger thinks, and it disgusts me.
abortion is a females right, and it should be. dr. tiller was not a horrible man, but a man who was just doing his job.
petervischiofilm 6 months ago
God bless George Tiller. Hell awaits the criminal murderer Roeder.
Ultimaton100 7 months ago
When one takes the rights of life away from one...It looses its own.
JimmyGunXD556 1 year ago
I'll say this. Whether you're pro-life or pro-choice---if you walked past a dumpster near an abortion clinic and heard a baby cry, yet did nothing about it, you're as guilty as the doctor or the woman with the unwanted pregnancy. Rot in hell if you'll walk past a dumpster with a crying baby, with its limbs torn off as it starves to death.
FalconMan1960 1 year ago
@FalconMan1960 the fuck are you talking about. an abortion is done during the embryonic stage before a baby is born. "dumpster children" happen in backwards redneck america where women are forced to carry children.
mwells219 1 year ago 2
Fact of the matter is, life is sacred.
FalconMan1960 1 year ago
It makes me sad seeing all those hate comments. What if he was in your family? How would you feel then? Be honest.
HaloSpartanG13 1 year ago
@myopinion1988 If you have not been able to pick up that I was being completely satirical, truth is, I don't support his murder to any degree. However, I just love mocking the pro choice hypocrisy that floods these websites. And speaking of propaganda, do you have any education in this beyond the public schools or an abortion clinic?
bcmasta1returns 1 year ago 3
@myopinion1988 Pro Life propaganda? Honey, I've studied biology for three years. There is hardly such a thing. Life as in independent human growth and development begins at conception. That's not propaganda, that's a scientific fact. As for being necessary, shoving forceps into the pre nate's head to destroy the brain is hardly necessary when a pre mature or early birth could have been induced.
bcmasta1returns 1 year ago 3
@myopinion1988 But it was his CHOICE!! What kind of country is this where a man can't make the CHOICE abort a baby killer without the ANTI CHOICE movement imprisoning him for his own personal decision? You anti choicers are so mid eval and barbaric! You ANTI CHOICE bigot!
bcmasta1returns 1 year ago 4
Scott Roeder is a Hero! He removed a scumbag baby killer from out streets. He should be awarded the Medal of Honor for removing Tiller the Baby Killer who murdered over 50,000 innocent defenseless babies. George Tiller is in hell right now and Scott Roeder is going to Heaven. God Bless Scott Roeder!!!!!!!!
fasteddie847 1 year ago 3
@fasteddie847 Wow, I'm very impressed it is amazing to show your real pro-life beliefs. Apparently you are a bit confused as to what the meaning of pro-life is. Let me guess, you support capital punishment, war, you must eat meat and so condone the slaughter of countless innocent animals. You are so pro-life, aren't you?
angelic6465 1 year ago 2
@angelic6465 I am pro life. I would have liked to see the 50,000 innocent defenseless babies that Tiller the Baby Killer murdered alive. And I'm also a Christian. God calls for the execution of people like Tiller. Murder is fine with God as long as it's justified and this one here was more than justified. It says in the Bible that God hates those who shed innocent blood. Let's see here, I think that would fit for Tiller killed 50,000 innocent babies who couldn't even talk. Rot in Hell Tiller
fasteddie847 1 year ago
@fasteddie847 LMFAO. I guess you kind of missed the fact that what Tiller did was LEGAL and what Roeder did was ILLEGAL. You live in a society of LAWS. If your sky daddy has a problem with our laws, he can settle the score in the afterlife. Till then, you belong in a mental institution.
gingerbreadcorpses 10 months ago 2
FREE SCOTT ROEDER! The anti choice movement has imprisoned him for expressing his right to choose to shoot Tiller.
bcmasta1returns 1 year ago 3
Way to go scotty! MOMMY did not love them & did not want them dancing in their bellies but the CHILDREN are dancing in their graves at your doings! Maybe not CUZ THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SO SWEET & THE SUNSHINE OF SOMEONES LIFE just not mommy's!
Angels however are singing! Guess he was lucky that mama wanted him or maybe she really did not want him? Maybe he surrounded by the babies now -justice served for all? I guess the doc?lol & babies r NOT buried close together-THEY NEVER GOT A NAME OR GRAVE!
SPLENOROUS 2 years ago
If some Nazi racist son of a bitch was going around a maternity ward bashing African American babies heads in while cops were eating donuts and somebody without a badge shot the babykiller it's the crooked damn cops who ought tp be on trial for not doing their job. By Roe vs Wade and federal law a late term unborn child is legally a human being with human rights and Tiller wasn't anything but a Nazi son of a bitch who deserved to die as many times over as the babies he murdered.
Texasjim2007 2 years ago
I'm glad Tiller's dead.
decimator333 2 years ago
One thing I learned from the mob, if you want to hurt them, you don't go after them.
You go after their families! Then they get the message!
Kidnap & behead the children of Scott Roeder!
I hope Scott & his family are sleeping well at night.
His family is so exposed, vulnerable & make such easy targets! The work would be easy!
Think about it, Scott!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
How can you condone such horrible things, Cockroach2008? Doesn't it make you feel sick to say such things? You should readress your view of the world; you will be happier if you leave the viciousness behind.
Turasawn 2 years ago
@Turasawn I have no problem with it! You may not agree, but that is okay with me.
I believe we should put him in a place where he can watch his children & family being disemboweled with a knife. Then cut him apart.
The last thing he will ever see just before he dies, is his children being slaughtered. It will be the last thing to go through his mind before he takes his last breath.
So pleasant to think about for me. It warms the cockles of my heart!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
I hope that you change into a good person some day, Cockroach2008.
Turasawn 2 years ago
@Turasawn I hope he gets to watch his children die before his eyes.
I am already a good person, just ask me! Mr. Roeder should die just after he witnesses the beheading of his children.
Celebrate!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
@Cockroach2008 You have made a statement that can be used to legally justify killing you if you are ever seen around Roeder's kids on ground of intent to commit murder. I do not personally consider anyone who shares your views human beings entitled to human rights so I would be happy to cut YOUR head off if you ever get stupid enough to give me an excuse like trying to murder somebody's kids, Make my day punk, I'm an ex-101st Airborne retired professional killer for the US Army. Piss on you,
Texasjim2007 2 years ago
Your presence does not scare me. I have already been so close to Scott Roeder's children, an head shot would have ended the days for one of them. It is just a matter of time. Whatever you consider me, I don't care. You will just have to find me first. I will never make your day, for I can out fox you. I am a Navy Seal, also a professional killer.
To bad you are not going to have a nice day!
Perhaps you can't sleep either thinking about me!
I don't care about you!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
Cool....scott roeder is from RED kansas and represents the lowlifes who claim to be prolife....LOL
waverly1990 2 years ago
Scott should have thought about what he has done.
We know where his family lives, telephone number, what his wife & children look like, what their vehicles look like, where his children attend school, when they attend school, where they make their purchases, when & who reads their utility meters, their garbage collection dates & times and who their neighbors are.
He is not in any position to do anything about it.
Sleep tight Scott!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
most unwanted babies grow up to be unwanted people who extract revenge for being born.
bohabb 2 years ago
Wow, bohabb, so we should just kill unborn babies just because maybe they will hurt people in the future? That is the blindest, stupidest logic immaginable.
Turasawn 2 years ago
Another con nutjob bites the dust.....What a shitty little coward, like any bush supporter that you can find. Except we'll get to see this one zapped like a fly!! fun fun fun
Isn't Fred Phelps from Witchita too?
callouschristian 2 years ago
the thing is he killed only ONE! Tiller killed thousands of innocent babies!!!!!!!!!!!!
mickykrovo 2 years ago
Now the question is how to do the same with thousands of Scott Roeders
callouschristian 2 years ago
Scott Roeder <3
eleMent248 2 years ago
well done Mr Roeder!!!
mickykrovo 2 years ago
stop martyring abortion doctors. it only kills the cause
BunnyMan456 2 years ago
May you have a 21 gun salute turned on you.
callouschristian 2 years ago
LIke I said, scott roeder and ALL if his kind should be put into the ovens.
Fuck the MINDLESS bible beaters.
Feed em to the lions.
Burn the bible.
waverly1990 2 years ago
There you go, Waverly--just believe in what your five physical senses happen to be able to detect, a truly thoughtful approach. I see that you are currently in no condition to accept reason or the deeper truth, but I hope that you will change in the future.
Turasawn 2 years ago
as opposed to what your imagination can conjur out of fear and hate?
callouschristian 2 years ago
Thank you for proving the point that people who are blinded and preocupied by the things which stimulate the senses are incapable of sensing the deeper truths of existance, callouschristian (the name suits you well, but you would do well to lose the callousness).
Turasawn 2 years ago
I say kill that bible beater just like william wallace was...racked then cut open and left to die.
fuck the bible beaters.
waverly1990 2 years ago
Are you serious, Waverly? Are you really that mindless? I see that you are entirely opposed to reason and moral sense. You look at a case where a man killed thousands of innocent babies and was then justly punished for his crimes and your only outcry is against the guy who killed the demonic baby murderer. Perhaps you should read the Bible you ignorantly bash--get some kind of moral perspective in your life.
Turasawn 2 years ago
I burn bibles. I read science books and believe in fact. this rightwing fanatic needs to be put to death.
waverly1990 2 years ago
Now all the religious freaks of nature can take in all the unwanted babies that will be born. Oh no? U won't take care of a life but it's ok to end one when you misinterpret the bible to sate your own bloodlust? Sounds like what the suicide bombers do....religion in america is as bad as terrorism....fearmongering, torture, death, war, all in the name of religion. Nice to see mans inhumanity to man being blamed on a "god" instead of ignorant church people w 2 much fear to handle
toothbeaver 2 years ago
Oh, toothbeaver, so, if someone doesn't want a baby, the moral decision is to murder that baby...okay, there's a good solution. Hey, instead of moral people who are against abortion taking care of these babies like you suggest in your ignorant snideness, how about the women who chose to get pregnant take care of the babies, hopefully along with their partners, rather than taking the cowardly and utterly evil approach of murdering their own developing children.
Turasawn 2 years ago
A baby is not a life unto it's own if it needs a mother's body to survive. You can't tie some one up for 9 months just because of your personal philosophies though I know you try like hell to do just that. Of course it's not about Jesus or Life with you people. It's about bullying and power. Stop kidding yourself. If there is a hell you are going lickety split and it is funny to watch.
callouschristian 2 years ago
Alright, callouschristian, it is apparent you are not big on listening to reason. If someone were to adopt your "life unto its own" philosophy, one would have to also believe that a born baby was not a real life, since, unarguably, an infant is 100% reliant on outside care to survive, and this is the case for the first few years of life. So, according to this demonic philosophy of yours, the lives of infants and toddlers--even up to the age of five, perhaps--should hold no value.
Turasawn 2 years ago
Do you really not see the difference between needing an umbilical cord to survive and needing TLC in the outside world. Let me help:"It Takes A Village" on the outside. On the inside it's just the blood of the mother which, like everything, you seem to have claimed entitlement. And you are wrong., mr advocate of "liberty" and "less government".
callouschristian 2 years ago
Needing an umbilical cord and needing TLC are technicalities; it is irrational, even from your cold, immoral perspective, to claim that it is right to kill a baby who relies on one and wrong to kill a baby who relies on the other--either way an innocent and defensless life is being destroyed. And, yes, a baby does have righful entitlement to its mother's care, before and after it is born; a mother who chooses to get pregnant has chosen to take the responsibility of a helpless life onto herself.
Turasawn 2 years ago
@Turasawn You bleeding heart fool!
I take great pleasure in kicking the womb of a women Scott Roeder has impregnated. Then, let him witness his bastard child & the women die.
No, how wrong you are. A fetus does not have any entitlements to protection.
Butcher the Roeder family!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
@callouschristian That is the way it should be to let the bastards die.
When a criminal parent sires a child, if one of the parents commits a crime, we need to exterminate them. Birthed or not, a criminal parent bears a criminal child.
Apples do not fall far from the tree. In fact, they fall directly under the tree.
If a tree bears bad fruit, exterminate the fruit & the tree. The order of extermination depends on where the most pain can be inflicted.
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
It is very obvious that a baby is born innocent; it is absurd to say that a child produced by a criminal is automatically guilty. The only way a person can become evil is through his own wrong choices.
Turasawn 2 years ago
Obvious to who? Not me! Criminal parent, criminal child. The model of the parent is set into the child.
If we want to bread the cycle, we need to eliminate those elements in the gene pool. The best way to break the chain is to eliminate any offspring. Since we advocate killing the parent, I think we should butcher the child (which breaks the chain), before the eyes of the parent immediately before we dispatch the parent!
Guaranteed, they won't do it again!
It is the correct & proper solution!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
You are a very twisted person, Cockroach; I'm done talking with you.
Turasawn 2 years ago
@Turasawn Thank you for your unsolicited opinion of me.
Just keep watching as the Roeder children are disemboweled. There won't be any thing Scott can do sitting in a court room in Wichita!
At least he can sit there & think about it!
We know what they look like, where they go, when they go, how they get there, who they see, how to contact them.
It is all so easy!
Just consider it cleaning up the human gene pool!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
@Cockroach2008 Your parents must have pimped you off to faggots or something for you to be as fucked up as you are but its your choice to stay fucked up until you give somebody an excuse to bodybag you or its your choice to pull your head out of your ass and join the human race. Your parents won't be the ones executed if you commit murder. That's on you not them. If having criminals for relatives justified murdering people that justifies killing anybody in the human race including you.
Texasjim2007 2 years ago
@Texasjim2007 Oh my goodness! You do have problems don't you? Perhaps you need to seek help or take your medications!
Scott Roeder's children are such easy targets. I have already been close enough 3 times to do the deed! One time, it may happen!
You now have got something to think about & stay awake at night about don't you!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
@Cockroach2008 You have a legal right to have your parents arrested for their crimes against you without being executed for that tainted blood bullshit the US Constitution specifically bans. Get your racist ass out of my country if you want to live long, Americans shoot racists
like dogs all the time. God bless America,
Texasjim2007 2 years ago
@Texasjim2007 Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy! You are certainly all worked up. I guess you should be since you appear to be mentally unbalanced. You need to seek the assistance of a medical professional or take your prescribed medications on schedule! Since you stopped taking them, you have been so off center.
I am not a racist! I just seek to deliver justice in the way that Scott Roeder will understand. His children & wife are such easy marks for disemboweling!
It is such sweet justice!
Cockroach2008 2 years ago
@Texasjim2007 Do americans shoot dogs? Does your post represent america. If so, then piss on america. (not really) You seem pissed-off, texasjizz2007. You infer your hatred for nazis. And you advocate killing abortion doctors. That america is the land of the free , where differing opinions means someone deserves to die. Oh, and you're a pathetic liar who claims to be a veteran of military service--" ex 101 ", "killer" etc. What you are is a pathetic lying little kid.
2thirdsHuman 2 years ago
mistyped my response
Unlike the deranged mind of a liberal some of us out there believe the innocent should be protected and the guilty be punished. He murdered innocent children. He who is guilty of murder was exterminated thus saving the innocent children he would have killed next because no one else would provide abortions that late in pregnancy. And yes killing Hitler halfway through the holocaust and thus saving innocent lives that he terminated in the second half would have been just too.
jjellenb 2 years ago
thats really different dude.
Grandolboy 2 years ago
Oh great so it's all so subjective who is in charge of deciding who lives and dies? is it ignorant churchgoers who are so full of fear that they will believe whatever they have to in order to kill someone? Is it EVER ok to take a life if thou shalt not kill? Learn something real and not this pre-preinted bible bullshit that has changed forms countless times thanks to religious control freaks and fearmongers...just like Hitler! Religion is an affront to whatever does exist out there...losers
toothbeaver 2 years ago
Are you really this irrational Toothbeaver? There is an obvious difference between killing an innocent baby and justly executing a viscious murderer. Oh, and if you knew anything about the Bible, you might understand that the context of Moses's law, which included "Thou shalt not kill" very clearly--and righfully so--allowed for the execution of murderers, such as Tiller.
Turasawn 2 years ago
Typical christian. Justifying murder with more murder and wondering why everybody gets sick of all the problems created by neo con christians. Defending Tiller by saying he should be executed. And your worried about the "gay agenda" with that crap logic?
callouschristian 2 years ago
Murder does not justify murder; murder justifes justice. Killing a man who has taken an innocent life is justice--not murder. Killing an unborn baby is murder and therefore justifies execution.
Turasawn 2 years ago
Do you take yourself seriously or are am I supposed to be laughing? In other words, are you a joke? Because that is hilarious.
callouschristian 2 years ago
Yes, I am serious. You should think about it seriously and maybe you will be able to see the good reason in what I am saying.
Turasawn 2 years ago
A true blue American hero he is. There arn't too many people left in this country that have the guts that that man did. Who knows how many lives he has saved. :)
jjellenb 2 years ago
ur a fucking retard. u think it's alright to shoot a man point blank in the head in front of his entire church and family? dude Christians are fucking stupid and really love violence.
Grandolboy 2 years ago
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jjellenb 2 years ago
Haha, another criminal behind bars. And is a republican! Love it!
Putrid in jail coward!
etniko 2 years ago 2
A special thank you to Law Enforcement who have made sure that people like Scott Roeder are behind bars this Labor Day Weekend. We can all feel safe this holiday weekend because of their effort.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
yea it's like a win-win scott roeder is off the streets and less babies will be killed now
haj890 2 years ago
Yeah kansas babies from stupid ass unwed teen mothers, thats the life those babies should be leading. why dont u bible thumpers stop shooting people (thou shalt kill when u think its ok) and volunteer to take care of these babies so mothers wouldnt get abortions...oh no that's something christ would do. Kill yourselves and save some doctors...thats my argument lol, its just as valid!
toothbeaver 2 years ago
ok dude im just saying abortion is wrong dude. if u wanna support it and go to hell thats ur opinion
haj890 2 years ago
IN your opinion it's wrong and as a guy I dont have much say nor am I ever getting one so I dont really think im going to hell. I know you religiosos get all horny and worked up telling people they will burn but sorry, you're dead wrong in my case, im sure someone out there needs to be told how righteous you are so go find them and preach on about how men need to feel this strongly about an issue they dont have to deal with personally
toothbeaver 2 years ago
Scott Roeder, you continue to complain showing the nation what a coward and meek individual you are. Jesus was far from a coward. Jesus never complained about anything, yet, you always complain about prison and the food. Be happy you are eating - punk.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
Love ya Scott.
heisthelight1611 2 years ago
This is no hero! He can't even accept the jail food - what a coward!
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
Thank you so much Scott.
heisthelight1611 2 years ago
Scott Roeder is a Fuckin Hero!
kingking4287 2 years ago
Scott Roeder is a hero
kingking4287 2 years ago
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Scott Roeder, you are a wimp in my eyes - stop your crying about jail and prison food. Take your coffee like a man! Grow up! This is a learning experience for you.
Now us taxpayers can take care of your family which you were to lazy and stupid to do for your self.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
Scott Roeder you are a hero in my eyes as well as a hero in the poor defenseless lives of the babies that Tillman got away with murdering, Your in my prayers Scott.
23angelo 2 years ago
He had the balls to stand up to our legal system and deal out punishment to a mass-murderer. Guys a hero in my book
radelta 2 years ago 2
Balls means accepting ones punishment without complaint. Scott Roeder has been whining from day one about the food and conditions in the jail. The food in jail isn't that bad. It is like hot lunch in high school. Scott is just a crybaby!
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
Yeah, and then cry about the conditions in the jail. Hero's don't cry! You never saw John Dillinger or John Gotti crying to people about there treatment or conditions. They took on the system and never cried like babies when caught.
If you want to call bad men hero's you better look at how they act when they do their time.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
YEAH...Whatever. A hero you pleaded not guilty. Why doesn't he just own up and take his punishment like a man instead of wasting everyones time. What a loser.
backwardk 2 years ago
Rockin, Scott Roeder is a complainer and crybaby which is solid proof he is a sidewalk sissy and not a hero.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
This prisoner is evil. He deserves it! I would even go as far as capital punishment. Eye for an eye. Tooth for a tooth. He must be excecuted. George Tiller was just doing his job.
bnbalenda 2 years ago
this cowards actions are exactly what religious faith encourages. Its a good thing that supposed Christians dont read their bibles and actually believe the bullshit content, otherwise you'd have atrocities committed on a daily basis. The Bible is the most potent convincing force for anti-theism ever conceived. READ IT!!!
theCYNIC 2 years ago
He(Scott) is being tried for people like you and us. Leave religion out of it
notthelastword 2 years ago
how do you leave religion out of it? he did this because of his religious beliefs. and what do you mean "he is being tried for people like you and us" ? ? ?
only religion or absolute insanity would accommodate the actions of this asshole. For instance notthelastword says that his reward is not of this world. how the fuck do you subtract religion from that statement and remain intellectually honest? YOU CAN'T!!!
theCYNIC 2 years ago
people like you and us are the unborn
notthelastword 2 years ago
That makes no sense what-so-ever but obviously you are incapable of having a conversation.
theCYNIC 2 years ago
Scott Roeder broke the law of the United States and must be accountable for his behavior according to OUR LAWS here in this country. If Scott Roeder was a real man, he would realize what he did was illegal and shut up and take what our nation of laws gives him. Scott was not above the law and should not be given any preferential treatment. Unless he is part of the don't ask don't tell?
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
laws aren't always moral
notthelastword 2 years ago
The laws are there to protect the citizens from people trying to execute their own laws on other people. If you would not pardon John Gotti, or gangmembers, do expect the majority to pardon Roeder.
The masses considered John Dillinger a hero, and he wasn't cut any slack. Let Roeder do his time, progress thru the system, like everyone else who commits a crime. Your morality or not, that is the way the system works and Scott Roeder is no exception. Unless he is a punk and cannot handleit.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
God bless Scott Roeder.
otoolejw 2 years ago
Scott Roeder's bail is only a meer $10,000,000.00 cash, so why don't his supporters get together and post his bail? If you love someone, you make the ultimate sacrafice.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
His reward is not of this world
notthelastword 2 years ago
Scott Roeder is a hero to his ex-wife and ex-landlords who he screwed! What a coward!
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
Scott Roeder did a good dead. Now many babies lives will be spared from that babykilling abortionist George Tiller Babykiller
DonDavis10 2 years ago 2
This man has saved countless babies, he should be given a national holiday.
1776iscoming 2 years ago 3
There is a national holiday for him: gay pride day.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
Why don't you post his bail first - then you can consider a national holiday! It is only $10 million cash down. What is $10 million for a hero?
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
Scott Roeder is a hero to all innocent human beings throughout history who have been stripped of personhood for the purpose of extermination, oppression, slavery and torture. George Tiller is just another dead body. I suggest we throw his rotting corpse on top of the pile of other dead bodies and get on with our lives.
StupidVds 2 years ago
It would be nice if Scott Roeder would act like a human and not pick his nose in front of the judge.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
I wonder if you realize the flaw in your bullshit logic when considering that George Tiller was once a fetus too. why are you so adamant about protecting the unborn from being exterminated but not the life of a man who has a family who was killed by a Bible pedaling lunatic? like i said, george tiller was a fetus at one point in time too, dumbass!
theCYNIC 2 years ago
Tiller WAS an innocent child at one time but he grew into evil profiteering cocksucker. As for your reference to the "bible", well, fuck Jesus, fuck the pope, fuck the catholic church and fuck the bible too. This isn't and never was a religious issue. This is and always will be a human rights issue. The human beings who were being exterminated by Tiller were innocent human beings. They did nothing to anyone. Tiller was a Nazi doctor and killing him and ever fucker like him should be applauded.
StupidVds 2 years ago
dont be an asshole the doctors already dead and its not his fault abortion is legal
dozebooze 2 years ago
Yes, dickhead, and it wasn't anybody's fault that the extermination of "certain" human beings was legal in Germany in the 40's and it wasn't anybody's fault that the extermination of "certain" human beings was legal in America during the slave trade. Just because the extermination of "certain" human beings is legal doesn't make it any less than what it is and what is always was. Doctors who take part in the exterminatioin of human beings need to be put on trial for crimes against humanity.
StupidVds 2 years ago
Chill jesus, the guy is dead who r u to judge seriously man i know ur passionate about human rights but its also his right to be alive go be a politition and do something about it then
dozebooze 2 years ago
Tiller was involved in the extermination of human beings for profit. Although his method of exterminating these human beings has been deemed a legal "medical procedure", the human beings who are being exterminated by Tiller and those of his ilk are "chosen" like the Jews were "chosen" for extermination and like slaves were "chosen" to be chained, shackled, whipped and hung from trees. From plantation owners, to Hitler, to Tiller I have no sympathy whatsoever.
StupidVds 2 years ago
You don't have to love or respect Tiller! The problem I have with certain people is when they declare Scott Roeder a hero and wish to pardon his behavior, which is pure garbage.
No matter how anyone feels about Tiller's actions - Scott Roeder has to punished as any gangmember would be for a drive-by shooting.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
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fv FREE Scott Roeden is a HERO for killing Dr. Tiller!
They lie to us saying that "we are a nation of laws"...
Yet our courts have unjust "laws" that allow "doctors" to commit genocide and eugenics to murder thousands of innocent lives.
It is up to righteous people to break these laws and kill these murders!
Tiller killed over 60,000 innocent lives!
Killing terrorist Dr. Tiller was HEROIC!
Watch this video and then ask WHY Obama promotes killing babies:
watch?v=XghfFjVY_KU
NewChristianSoldiers 2 years ago
Look at that stupid bastard. I say burn him alive.
jxsilicon9 2 years ago
Hey...why's he so interested in socialized lawyering for!
I thought this was a dyed in the wool heartland wingnut.
terpis 2 years ago
who appointed this guy as god,this is not how we make changes,this guy killed more than the doctor.
inagod 2 years ago
Lets face it - now Scott Roeder faces the Face Act! If the locals don't get him - the Feds will!
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
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Scott Roeder is a HERO for killing Dr. Tiller "The Baby Killer"!
If someone broke into your house you could kill them to protect your babies and it would be "justified" by the "law".
Yet we have "laws" that protect murderers allowing them to kill babies.
It's obvious that people need to break the law to kill these murderers.
60,000 babies VS 1 killer is JUSTIFIED!
As Tiller roasts in HELL with Satan, watch this video: watch?v=XghfFjVY_KU
Then ask WHY Obama supports Abortion?df
NewChristianSoldiers 2 years ago
It would be nice if Scott Roeder would try and show a little class and not pick his nose in front of the judge and cameras.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
He does look like a mental deficient but I hope he doesn't claim that as his defense. His trial should end right there: life without parole, no visitors, no video games, no TV...10 x 6 + toilet and small opening for some scraps of food. I wouldn't even build a door to his cell, save some money...... he will become someones bitch lol
lindanandy 2 years ago
Don't worry! They have the prosecutor from his bomb making trial who says that he is not insane. The insanity defense is rarely ever proven today. Most cases are lost when they use the insanity defense.
In Scott Roeder's case - you can't claim insanity when you are just plain stupid.
As far as the other, I think that is why his lawyer is asking for bail (which he will not get) because I am sure that some of the guys in lockdown are probably intimidating him.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
He looks like a mental deficient. We already know that he is a coward; now we know his intelligence.
ChicagoJoe57 2 years ago
This man saved the lives of thousands of babies.
1776iscoming 2 years ago
A FETUS IS NOT A BBABY!!!!!
tonygem 2 years ago
No, but it IS delicious on rye.
J4N15 2 years ago
did he die?
MaddenDynasty1 2 years ago
Too bad that Christian extremists don't have catch phrases to shout out, like the Muslim extremists have "Allah akbar!"
Would make it easier to spot them.
Thats what happens when people follow irrational, superstitious ideologies.
Spanky00Cheeks 2 years ago 6
This guy deserves what he's going to get for what he did. Tiller, while probably responsible for thousands of deaths, legally was innocent. That his soul was troubled is evidenced by the fact that he went to church regularly. Maybe this moron answered his own, and Tillers prayers at once. I don't get wrapped up in all the religious crap. Morally both were wrong, but only Roeder commited "murder", because the court doesn't recognize un-born children as people unless it serves their purpose.
wideawake123 2 years ago
If people who go to church have troubled souls, then right wing fundies are the most troubled people of all. Tiller 's courageous acts saved real lives in tragic cases where mothers and/or children could have suffered serious harm or even death if the simple-mind anti-abortionists had had their way.
tekno2600 2 years ago 6
So youre saying that the thousands of Abortions Tiller committed, they were to "save real lives"...meaning that even though as early as 18 days after conception a fetus has a heart beat, it's not a "real life". OK, So Tiller "courageously" performed these acts for free, right? A man of such courage saving all those thousands of lives...My heart swells with a newfound pride at his courageous and selfless acts. To forsake a life of luxury as a GP, or Surgeon to save lives like that for free...Wow.
wideawake123 2 years ago
Gee teckno2600, exactly as many people that voted your comment "up" voted mine "down". What a coincidence. I'll bet they were "tekno1600-3600-and4600)
wideawake123 2 years ago
Nope, a lot of people apparently also think you're an idiot.
teriandjack 2 years ago
Does he even need a fuckin Lawyer? Straight life sentence.
mockingarab 2 years ago 2
What...is he defending himself?
sleonardelli 2 years ago