@lcukniev I've got nothing against your country, I'm a great admirer of Slavic culture, but I only quote what Historians and Archaeologists say and certainly what I've been taught in school, and in Britain we are taught that ancient Macedonia was - and still is - a terrritory of northern Greece. The ancient Macedonians were of Greek origin and spoke a broader rougher dialect of Greek. I'm sure the prestigious Universities of Harvard Yale, Oxford and Cambridge know what they're saying
@HaggisMacfee ...just explain to me o wise one from the west. How is it possible, a nomadic tribe, in that period of time to move in to un know territory, running from the Huns, & at the same time defining a superior culture: mix of Romans, Greeks, Macedonians, Trakians, & other tribes? Did they just gave up? And by your logic, some of the slavic tribes made it to France, Spain, even GB, Germany goes without saying.
@HaggisMacfee ...why waste time & breath to prove to you & to all of Greece, that the sun is round, & we go around It...I am beyond, your childish games, so you can enjoy my video, what ever you are, or you can make your own & enjoy that... What ever you say or do won't make me bend a knee to your lies.
@MrKristijan97 But the ancient Macedonians were ethnically a Greek people. Macedonians were of Greek stock that is, they had a Greek gene pool, spoke a north-western Greek language, and lived in Greece's northern province of Macedonia. Macedonia in northern Greece was - and still is - a territory of Greece. All the Greek tribes were were at war with each other and killing each other for land, power and dominance. Alexander united the Greek tribes to create a unified Greece.
The Greek province of Macedonia in northern Greece has always been Greek ethnographic territory since ancient times, that is land always occupied by Greek peoples. In fact according to Historians, Macedonia is where the first proto-Greek speaking peoples originated from [Borza]. As for the term 'barbarians', it was the Athenians (and only the anti-Macedonian ones led by Demosthenes) that used this prejudiced rhetoric, and only at the time of the struggle with Philip, [Errington]
@HaggisMacfee Filip, Aleksanders father,was the one who conquered the Greek city states, who then paid tribute to the Kingdom of Macedonia...& also was named Filip the barbarian, by the Athenians, because the Greeks then, as much as now didn't recognized the language or the culture which was similar...
But, the past is the past & u R always welcomed, 2 visit my country, 2 C & learn our side of the story b4 passing judgements...tnx 4 watching & God bless.
I tip my hat 2 u gentleman sir 4 getting uR knowledge from movies & cartoons. By the way tnx 4 the bombs uR country dropped on my brothers & sisters when they were cast out of their lands in the Greek civil war.
If u r really from GB, u should know the difference, between Irish, Scots, Welsh & English, uR all the same but even Scotland has it's own money, so... Greece named it's northern territory "Province Macedonia" in what year?...was it just a year or so b4 Macedonia gained it's independence :) coincidence?
@lcukniev Actually your statement "can't be Greek and Macedonian at the same time" does'nt make sense. it's like saying you can't be Scottish and British at the same time. See, makes no sense. Macedonia is a territory of Greece, in fact it comprises one third of the Greek landmass, and the ancient Macedonians were a Greek tribe. In fact the ancient Greek kingdom of Macedonia was named so after the Greek tribe called the 'Makednoi' (Greek for highlanders)that lived there.
Man I could almost smell you fear, that you are going to be caught in your own lies. You can't possibly know the joy I feel, reading this, because the more you lie, the more the world sees you for what you really are. It's sad, & that's why I don't mind you.
They visit our country millions of people. You? Nobody. You are nothing. You try to steal our history but you know that you aren't Macedonians. Have a nice day there in Vardarska Banovina.
He was one of the greatest GREEK generals in history and at the age of 33 had conquered most of the known world. (All these things are not in my head. There are in Wikipedia.)
You are brainwashed and this is physical because they learn you to be like this. But this thing has to stop. And you know what? Many people in the world admire the GREEK history, our beautiful places and our GREEK unique style.
Learn history! It's not late. ALL of you know that Alexander The Great (Μέγας Αλέξανδρος) is GREEK. :) History wrote it. His father was Philippos and his mother princess Olympiada from Epirus. (Absolutely GREEK names)
I can't tell you who you are, I only speak who I am. And it won't matter what I or you think we know, the world knows the facts and IT will make up It's mind. So you speak your mind, and I mine, let time and God be our judge.
Sorry Alexander The Great is Serb... Lesandar Karanovic...Third World Eperior...Before them was Nino Belov and Serbo Makeridov... Happy New Year and Christmas
I will say it again, I would like for us to be allies just like in ancient times. Brother, together we stand, divided we fall. Non of us are free if one of us is chained.
Yea, he was Greek as much as u r Macedonian...dude we should b allies, I respect & admire Greek culture especially Sparta. Leonidas is my favorite king, 4 me it's an insult 2 compare me with Serb or Bulgarian, Albenian, or Greek, I am Macedonian by birthright of my forefathers.
Macedonia is a name of a land, not like your city states of Sparta Athens etc. And by that is the only territory which forms a kingdom what was considered a barbarian form of government, not like your city states.
@lcukniev You people of the 'Former Yugoslav republic of macedonia' are the same people as Serbs and Bulgarians according to your DNA. According to your haplogroups you are the same people as Serbs, but you speak western Bulgarian as a language. You have a Slavic gene pool. The ancient Macedonians were Greeks, they had a greek gene pool, they lived in the Greek province of Macedonia, they spoke a Greek language, they genetically merged and assimilated with the rest of the Greeks
@lcukni Why is it an insult to compare you with Serbs or Bulgarians? That IS your DNA according to your own geneticists who say you are genetically the same people as Serbs and Bulgarians. Even your haplogroups show you to be the same people as Serbs. You should be proud of your Slavic ethnicity. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Lets face it, your republic was the Khanate of Bulgaria from 600AD when your ancestors arrived, until 1204 AD when you then became part of Serbia until 1453.
The world famos genetic institute from Switzerland, iGenea discovered that the only descendent of Ancient Macedonian nation is the modern Macedonian nation 1/3 are Ancent Macedonians, 1/5 slavish and the rest. Greeks are only 10% descendents of ancient Macedonian genes..... Alexander's father Filip of Macedon concurred Greeks... he couldn't be a Greek, sorry ... :)
@zemfak I'm sorry but all evidence points to Alexander being nothing but Greek. He was born in Greece near modern-day Thessaloniki in northern Greece, NOT FYROM. Pella was an ancient Greek city. Macedonia was just another city-state in Greece and Pella was the capital of Macedon. He spoke Greek, wrote in Greek, was tutored by one of the most famous Greeks in history, Aristotle, spread Greek culture all over the world. Philip competed in the Olympics, which only GREEKS could compete in.
Very good video. I love Alexander as I do Breaking Benjamin. He really is the greatest general of all time. To conquer the most powerful empire on Earth with only 50,000 men is such an amazing achievement that no other commander has ever matched. That is why all commanders since Alexander have always wanted to be like him. Not to mention his courage, he was so inspiring to his men, being the first one to hit the enemy line, always leading the charge. But he was, is and always will be Greek!!!!!
@HaggisMacfee ...iGenea DNA test confirms Macedonians - Macedonian Truth
lcukniev 1 day ago
Besides which, the the latest results by
geneticist Zlatko Jakovski confirmed
that the Slavic population of FYROM
are genetically the same as Serbs and
Bulgarians, which actually agrees well
with the dominant Serb I2a2 haplogroups
of the FYRMacedonians as well.
HaggisMacfee 5 days ago
@HaggisMacfee ... So, I think is best to look at your own personal problems, & leave my country in peace.
lcukniev 5 days ago
HaggisMacfee 5 days ago
@HaggisMacfee ...just explain to me o wise one from the west. How is it possible, a nomadic tribe, in that period of time to move in to un know territory, running from the Huns, & at the same time defining a superior culture: mix of Romans, Greeks, Macedonians, Trakians, & other tribes? Did they just gave up? And by your logic, some of the slavic tribes made it to France, Spain, even GB, Germany goes without saying.
lcukniev 5 days ago
@HaggisMacfee ...why waste time & breath to prove to you & to all of Greece, that the sun is round, & we go around It...I am beyond, your childish games, so you can enjoy my video, what ever you are, or you can make your own & enjoy that... What ever you say or do won't make me bend a knee to your lies.
lcukniev 5 days ago
If alexander the great is greek not macedonian, than way he kill greeks!
???????? Your name is greece not macedonia and stop with the crap !!!
MrKristijan97 6 days ago
HaggisMacfee 5 days ago
In that times on the balkans was only iliria, macedonia, traci, and the styped greeks !!
MrKristijan97 6 days ago
So, in a nutshell, historians
unanimously agree that the ancient Macedonians
were Greeks, that they had a Greek gene pool,
and lived in the Greek province of Macedonia
in northern Greece. Ancient Macedonians were
a Helladic people, speaking a Hellenic language
(Doric Greek), they were a Greek sub-group,
and genetically, they merged and assimilated
with the rest of the Greek populace, there is
no evidence to suggest otherwise.
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
You asked what you were before 600 AD,
In 600 Ad your Slavic ancestors were migrating
south from eastern Europe, and started penetrating
the northern borders of the Byzantine Empire
by the early 8th century AD.
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
[Cont]
This prejudiced stance by the anti-Macedonian
league led by Demosthenes with the use of the
term barbarian, had nothing to do with language
or anything else, but with the backwardness
of the Kingdom in which a King ruled without a
constitution, or a polis governmental system, this
was frowned upon by other Greek city states.
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
@HaggisMacfee Filip, Aleksanders father,was the one who conquered the Greek city states, who then paid tribute to the Kingdom of Macedonia...& also was named Filip the barbarian, by the Athenians, because the Greeks then, as much as now didn't recognized the language or the culture which was similar...
lcukniev 1 week ago
@lcukniev
Actually Philip succeeded where Athens and Sparta failed.
Athens and Sparta both wanted to conquer all the tribes
of Greece and control Greece but failed, but only
Macedon succeeded. It was thus Philip and Alexander
who unified the Greek tribes from a loose confederation
of city states and kingdoms, into a unified country
that could identify itself as wholly Greek. Thus it was
Philip and Alexander who transformed the independent
states into one unified Greece.
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
But, the past is the past & u R always welcomed, 2 visit my country, 2 C & learn our side of the story b4 passing judgements...tnx 4 watching & God bless.
lcukniev 1 week ago
I tip my hat 2 u gentleman sir 4 getting uR knowledge from movies & cartoons. By the way tnx 4 the bombs uR country dropped on my brothers & sisters when they were cast out of their lands in the Greek civil war.
lcukniev 1 week ago
If u r really from GB, u should know the difference, between Irish, Scots, Welsh & English, uR all the same but even Scotland has it's own money, so... Greece named it's northern territory "Province Macedonia" in what year?...was it just a year or so b4 Macedonia gained it's independence :) coincidence?
lcukniev 1 week ago
...aham...then what were we b4 600AD, Romans? & b4 that Greeks?...& pls b4 @least b4 that we must have been Macedonian.
lcukniev 1 week ago
Actually, the film in this video 'Alexander'
makes it quite clear that the Macedonians were
Greeks. Alexander refers to himself on a number of
occasions as being Greek.
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
love Macedonia
MrZarko007 2 weeks ago
i want the greeks to answer!
ilija502 2 weeks ago
why Ale....... Makedonski fight(you now what i mean) with Greek ,why Aleks.... Makedonski fight greek when is a ,,Greek"
Please answer (from a Greek)
ilija502 2 weeks ago
@ilija502
Well I'm British but I can answer your Question,
Greece was made up of a loose confederation
of Greek city states and kingdoms.
All of them were at war with each other
for the extension of their lands and for greater power.
Of course, Alexander was a more traditional Greek,
and he sought to unify Greece, from a loose
confederation, into a unified country that could identify
as being wholly Greek. Hope that answers your question.
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
andyrockevo
i will drink coffie in Solun in 2013 :P
ilija502 2 weeks ago
WOW (>w<)
TheJovanaFox 3 weeks ago
macedonian name will never die !
macedon238 1 month ago
Well my friend you can't be Greece & Macedonian at the same time, unless you admit that you occupy another country.
And I don't need to remember, that which I know who & what I am. ;)
lcukniev 1 month ago
what the bird
Lexie1606 1 month ago
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
SKOPIANS THIEVES OF GREEK HISTORY STOP USE THE NAME OF MACEDONIA THIS NAME BELONG TO GREECE YOU ARE A NATION OF SLAVS DO NOT FORGET THIS
aenaosdorieas 1 month ago
XD!!!!....hahahahaha!
Man I could almost smell you fear, that you are going to be caught in your own lies. You can't possibly know the joy I feel, reading this, because the more you lie, the more the world sees you for what you really are. It's sad, & that's why I don't mind you.
You to have a nice day :)
lcukniev 1 month ago
They visit our country millions of people. You? Nobody. You are nothing. You try to steal our history but you know that you aren't Macedonians. Have a nice day there in Vardarska Banovina.
AkisKobe 1 month ago
He was one of the greatest GREEK generals in history and at the age of 33 had conquered most of the known world. (All these things are not in my head. There are in Wikipedia.)
You are brainwashed and this is physical because they learn you to be like this. But this thing has to stop. And you know what? Many people in the world admire the GREEK history, our beautiful places and our GREEK unique style.
AkisKobe 1 month ago
Learn history! It's not late. ALL of you know that Alexander The Great (Μέγας Αλέξανδρος) is GREEK. :) History wrote it. His father was Philippos and his mother princess Olympiada from Epirus. (Absolutely GREEK names)
AkisKobe 1 month ago
Aleksandar superstar Veliki kikiriki hyper-ninja yaahh!
panosunde 1 month ago
I can't tell you who you are, I only speak who I am. And it won't matter what I or you think we know, the world knows the facts and IT will make up It's mind. So you speak your mind, and I mine, let time and God be our judge.
Happy New Year! :)
lcukniev 2 months ago
Αλέξανδρος ο Μέγιστος Των Ελλήνων..
Former yougoslav republic of Vardarska stop STEALING THE GREEK HISTORY ..
andyrockevo 2 months ago 3
MAKEDONIJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA <3
Makedon0309 2 months ago
Sorry Alexander The Great is Serb... Lesandar Karanovic...Third World Eperior...Before them was Nino Belov and Serbo Makeridov... Happy New Year and Christmas
pgpale 2 months ago
I will say it again, I would like for us to be allies just like in ancient times. Brother, together we stand, divided we fall. Non of us are free if one of us is chained.
lcukniev 2 months ago
Yea, he was Greek as much as u r Macedonian...dude we should b allies, I respect & admire Greek culture especially Sparta. Leonidas is my favorite king, 4 me it's an insult 2 compare me with Serb or Bulgarian, Albenian, or Greek, I am Macedonian by birthright of my forefathers.
Macedonia is a name of a land, not like your city states of Sparta Athens etc. And by that is the only territory which forms a kingdom what was considered a barbarian form of government, not like your city states.
lcukniev 2 months ago
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
HaggisMacfee 1 week ago
Strange, why has the bit where Alexander shouts
"........for the Glory and Freedom of Greece...."
been edited out. That's quite an important bit
since Alexander was Greek.
HaggisMacfee 2 months ago
Yeah, Alexander is Great, he's the brilliant Greek
warrior King born in the ancient Greek kingdom
of Macedonia. Of course the ancient Greek kingdom
of Macedonia is still today, Greece's largest province,
encompassing one third of the Greek landmass.
There is NO CONNECTION of course with FYROM
which is a Slavic country populated by Slavic people
related to Serbs and Bulgarians.
HaggisMacfee 2 months ago 4
The world famos genetic institute from Switzerland, iGenea discovered that the only descendent of Ancient Macedonian nation is the modern Macedonian nation 1/3 are Ancent Macedonians, 1/5 slavish and the rest. Greeks are only 10% descendents of ancient Macedonian genes..... Alexander's father Filip of Macedon concurred Greeks... he couldn't be a Greek, sorry ... :)
zemfak 6 months ago
@zemfak I'm sorry but all evidence points to Alexander being nothing but Greek. He was born in Greece near modern-day Thessaloniki in northern Greece, NOT FYROM. Pella was an ancient Greek city. Macedonia was just another city-state in Greece and Pella was the capital of Macedon. He spoke Greek, wrote in Greek, was tutored by one of the most famous Greeks in history, Aristotle, spread Greek culture all over the world. Philip competed in the Olympics, which only GREEKS could compete in.
sparghast 6 months ago 2
Very good video. I love Alexander as I do Breaking Benjamin. He really is the greatest general of all time. To conquer the most powerful empire on Earth with only 50,000 men is such an amazing achievement that no other commander has ever matched. That is why all commanders since Alexander have always wanted to be like him. Not to mention his courage, he was so inspiring to his men, being the first one to hit the enemy line, always leading the charge. But he was, is and always will be Greek!!!!!
sparghast 7 months ago