Cops using this part of the "law" that lets them stop anybody to check sobriety and that their "papers" are in order must realize they are almost nazi's
@jvangel yeah...thats called profiling...and he better have a damn good reason...or my friend would have some serious civil charges...but we don't pick fights...we just don't sit down when they are trying to call our names...
You people who are constantly bashing the police will be the first ones to call them to come to your aid once you need them
Once you are stopped when driving the officer has every right to see your DL in order to know that you are licensed to drive. Driving an automobile is a privilege people not a damn right!
READ and LEARN things and quit acting like fools and then posting the vids that prove as much about you
And next time you need help call a crackhead you likely know plenty of them.
stop being so nice to this pig fuck! he obviously doesnt knwo the god damn law.. and he expects to enforce it? this stupid oath violating pig needs something done to him now! stop violating ppls fucking rights simply cause ur too god damn lazy to do ur fuckin job
"The Highway Traffic Act lets me stop anybody at any time to... ensure all documents are in order", looks like Nazi fucking Germany moved across the channel.
And shitheads like this kid are why cops snap and beat the shit out of people 95% of the time... This cop is so extraordinarily patient. He is a very nice guy that was extremely patient with you. Personally if i were a cop I probably would have lost my job that day because I would of inflicted some sever police brutality on you.
@raymax1717 They're there to uphold the law of the land, not the law according to some cop, because that way, the next time it'll be a different cop and a different law. That's how it works. It's fine when it's someone else being a "shithead", wait 'til it happens to you and the cops just 'make shit up' and beat the shit out of you. Unless, of course, you just roll over and surrender your rights.
You have a right....he has a right............that's all....simple......easy....even small kid's can give a very good respond....and you are very well educate person.....so...show it..not like in the Video
That officer if full of it. In order to pull you over, you would have had to commit an infraction or a crime. I wouldn't even have stepped out of the car until he told me which law or infraction I broke. Hopefully you filed a formal complaint since he stepped all over your rights.
My douche bag of a human species who I have to share breath space with. You are dumbass and you are just giving the police the hard time with the camera. You are a freaking loser as we see on Camera. No, Wonder why you were already in court once half an hour ago. LOSER!
Quoted from the description. "'officer' who did not identify himself as they had intercourse earlier on in the day" You had intercourse and you didnt know his name? MANWHORE!
The government agent *asked* for his government issued STRAWMAN identification. W/o establishing your STRAWMAN identity they have nothing to work with.
@TheCornedbeefhasable Because the jackass with the camera just wont follow the Officers instructions? No this guy is a perfect example of what is wrong with the world today. He thinks he knows more than everyone else and is being a bitch about it. Instead of just following instructions he thinks he is some smartass by trying to prove people wrong. Police dont just pull people over for shits and giggles.
@BOHICA256 "Police dont just pull people over for shits and giggles". lol i dont know what world you live in bro. do some homework or get out a bit more. notice nothing happened. if this man was causing a problem something would have been done. the cop backed off because he new he had nothing on the kid. following orders is facism questoning authority is freedom. this kid obviously stood is ground and should be admired for his courage; rather than ridiculed
@TheCornedbeefhasable This is one of the things we are blessed with. Freedom, so you have your opinion and I have mine. And I can say almost whatever I want and so can you. Yeah nothing happened while the camera was on.. but its cool bro. you stick to your thinking as everyone that doesnt think like you is a "great example of what is wrong with the world today" attitude and tell me how far you get in life.
@StovePots Let me try to sum this up for you in 480 characters or less. The subject you are inquiring about is a very in depth one. First, you need to understand the difference between rights and privileges. To exercise a right, one does not need permission. Do you have a right to travel? If so, why do you need a permission, granted through a license, to travel in a car? By asking for a license one seeks government approval to travel in a car.
@StovePots Those who ask for permission must not have the right to do it in the first place, and the person or entity from whom the permission is sought must be of greater authority than he who asks permission. Now, it is my understanding that the license is only necessary for those who are operating in a government capacity. The reason for this is because statutes, acts, codes, regulations, and bylaws do not apply to people. The term sovereign or freeman man come to mind.
@StovePots However it is referred to, what it means is that those rules I just mentioned only apply to people acting in a government capacity. To use the words of Robert: Menard (paraphrased), how is it you can walk out of a Wal-Mart bathroom without washing your hands if there is a sign posted stating that all employees must wash their hands before leaving the bathroom? The answer is that you are not an employee. Those regulations do not apply to you. This is the case with the license.
@StovePots Because police believe, as most of the U. S. and Canadian population, that the "rules" I mentioned before apply to everyone, they enforce to codes and ordinances in every situation. This is where things get a little more complicated. A person can have a license to do something, but never act in that capacity. Dean Clifford gave a great example of a situation that will help you understand. He The situation goes as follows (hypothetically, of course):
@StovePots Dean is sitting at home with his feet propped up on his wood stove relaxing and drinking a beer. A government agent, I do not know who would enforce this statute in Canada where he lives, comes into his home and demands his fishing license. He says, "Okay." and gives it to the man demanding it. The government agent states, "You can't be drinkin and fishin!" In the situation just described, dean is not operating in a government capacity.
@StovePots He has a license, for whatever reason, but is not fishing as a function of government. Now, on to your question. When an officer asks for a driver's license, and a person produces it, it is presumed that because the person is licensed, they are operating in a government capacity under that license. As this is the case, the officer, who really does not understand the information I have just explained here, writes a citation of some sort.
@StovePots This explanation likely has only led to more questions regarding the situation. There is much that I do not understand regarding the law. Dean Clifford is who I would look into. Freemanitoba(dot)com is a great website with information regarding this and many other issues. Also t4tt(dot)info is another great site.
there was no reason for the cop to think there was any paperwork problem with this driver or the car he was in. in addition, he's trying to use ambers law to justify the initial contact. this is obviously an illegal stop
@mfrank165 with the current reading of the law, a law enforcement officer can stop any vehicle and ask for the paperwork. there are hundreds of reason they can stop a vehicle including needing to check the paperwork.
dude, then shut up and give him the driving licence.... if i were that cop i would had arrested you, becuase you refused to give information which the police got the right to get information which will be for your own safety.... and btw the cop is human so if you get on his nerves its your fault that something happens, its different if you co-operate with the police, they will be more friendly.
@mfrank165 i'm not a cop, i'm just a person that respect the safety regulations. What if the incoming traffic had crashed into each other to try to avoid the one that crossed the traffic lights red? and as far as i know a city like London ppl don't drive with 10KM/H lol so in my opinion he endangered other ppl.
or if you are free to go. at that point, the officer needs, to cite you, arrest you (ask for what reason), or let you go. they cannot detain you once you reveal that you want to leave. if you continue to talk to the officer, you are consenting to the detainment.
the most successful way to deal with police during a traffic stop is to show your identification as required, but do not open your door. if you are asked to get out of the vehicle, exit the vehicle and close the door behind you and state that you do not consent to a search. (do not consent to a search if you own a used vehicle or have any high value items like laptops because they are not liable to any damages during a consented search). when you're out the vehicle, ask if you are being detained
the contractual consent is given at the time of passage into law. you can always schedule an appointment with a lawyer to discuss these matters, but your personal interpretation of legal terms may not always be the one that's understood by the law of the land at the present time.
@ReportTheHackers Yer in latin is? I will accept council on proof of claim that my current council is not sufficient. My maker has set me as trustee...how can I give contractual consent at the time of passage into law when the law says nothing about giving away the will I am entrusted with. What if the law of the land has not yet been implemented...its all just dead on the sea can't you see?
@finditherefirst i'm sorry but that's current implementation of the law. you can challenge the constitutionality of the act but until then, you are required to show identification to the officer if you are the operator of a vehicle. no amount of logic can replace the established judicial process, least of all replace the practical need to enforce and regulate your use of a deadly weapon, the car, in the most real, literal, and common sense.
@ReportTheHackers and why cant logic replace the judicial proccess? we have allowed corruption to do it.... and i dont need the government to regulate my gun, my car, or my anything... they are mine, and mine alone. if you love socialism so much why dont you move out of a country founded on freedom?
@mfrank165 how do you achieve something practically vs engaging everyone's logic and not offending everybody's interpretation of a concept like freedom.
for instance, years of communicating with faceless people on the internet have taught certain people that personal attacks and one liners achieve the best practical results instead of actually trying to engage, listen, and understand.
so again you can challenge the current law of the land in court, but until otherwise it's the law.
@mfrank165 you can argue what's right and wrong and 100 people can have 100 opinons and thats ok. that's my take on freedom in our country. it seems that for you, freedom means that everyone has to agree with you or you have to attack them personally.
@mfrank165 if you want logic then here, the practical needs of a country changes with time and advances in technology. i don't see you arguing that traffic lights and stop signs impede your 4th amend rights but yet they do in the strictest of sense. there's a need to regulate traffic. just like there's a need to regulate the people driving a 2 ton vehicle down the road. imagine if there's no enforcement then no one would feel obligated to have proper paperwork. narcoleptic & epileptics rejoyce
@finditherefirst self-restraint is a virtue, education is a priviledge. ad hominem attacks is not only a fallacy, it's the lowest form at such. you have no idea what my background is and there's no need to even go there, unless you have nothing better to say.
@ReportTheHackers i was going to school you in the constitution and bill of rights but finditherefirst did it for me. our government is illegal and breaking laws every day, consent to nothing demand all of your human rights
the cop is not wrong, there's an exception for any individual in a vehicle, that they are required to show identification when requested. cops are not required to read the act when requested. it is not a right to ask to be educated as a citizen of a law or any corollaries. it is the duty and responsibility or each citizen to know the law and responsibility they are under.
@ReportTheHackers FYI this video is not a Freeman video...or a video about rights...these two officers followed this guy home from the courthouse. Report what hackers bro? Who is a citizen here? Please ease up with the BAD legal advice in the comment section! Go practice elsewhere if you don't mind...feel free to stay at the same time...see how I don't order you to ascribe to much if anything yet you express exactly how it is like you know for sure in reality rather than your illegal society.
.......cont'd....unfortunately the Police do not understand this. I carry this info on a small card in the glove box...saves over talking. I am always very polite and relaxed and tell them how worthwhile they are !!...they try everything to get jurisdiction. I just point to the card and keep recording......Do you know it is a 'offence' to lie to the police sir?...yes I do......Do you know it is a bigger offence to lie to me Constable ?...you swore a OATH......I have not!
Any 'Act' invoked by the Police , in fact any legislation, requires contractual CONSENT. That is the issue....not any bullshit regarding what a person is. The fact should of been that he was not operating under The Highway ACT....as he was conducting his lawful business in a private conveyance, of which, may I assume he had total equity. The Officer confirmed this by not writing a ticket with regard to the alleged infraction. He may of stated he was not compelled to perform under duress.
thats right officer. get back in your car and leave. you know your role and who has the REAL power...and its not the douche with the gun and fake ass badge..."oh thank you sir..." thats right officer...call me sir and leave.DONT FORGET THEY WORK FOR US...great video.
They had intercourse...?? "GOLD! Robert might have seemed a bit non-peaceful but he is certainly being taunted by this 'officer' who did not identify himself as they had intercourse earlier on in the day"
@usagora "When you are steadfast in your abstention of thoughts of harm towards your self and all others, all wild beasts will cease to sense fear in your presence!" ~can't remember...
@finditherefirst what do you mean he has a person and he's not a person? What is he, an alien, and go learn some grammar before you start being a d bag to people. The end, I win...oh Enjoy your day!
@MickScarborough There are many...and yes many doctors, lawyers and other servants will be very upset with themselves when they see the truth. Blood flows by nature...what are you getting at?
@MickScarborough I've done it here in the U.S. and I was falsely arrested and Falsely charged and falsely imprisoned. I Beat the charges on my own as a Pro Se litigant and now I'm suing in federal court for the violation of my civil and human right. if you think I'm lying here is the case # Civ 7919. This is not Nazi Germany and I don't have to Identify my self just cause you say so, their must be probable cause for any officer to have any authority to demand anything.
Yeah, well every single time they do that and violate our rights, they put 'themselves at risk'... Assaults on law enforcement is at an all time high, coincidence(?), doubt it!
The cop belongs in jail. Making a traffic stop with out probable cause is illegal. The cop cannot stop someone "just to see your papers." Only nazi's stop people just to see their papers.
@snarky77005 watch "London Public vs Private" for the full context of this video...these "officers" followed them from the courthouse because something very strange was going on!
Cops are so stupid, FREE PEOPLE don't have to give you anything, you have to tell us what we've done wrong before we have to give you anything, you work for us.
He didn't post himself walking a couple of miles to get his replacement key or waiting around for it. He is lucky, the cops didn't arrest him for failing to identify himself. But, having locked himself out, I'm sure the cops were laughing all the way to the road. Also, hear the guy self-describe getting in the cops face back at the courthouse? Lets just say, I doubt this guy is going to catch a break when - and I mean when - he gets himself into trouble again.
what a dip shit and his partner either and where are the swat officer. in the states u'd be eating pavement,,,what an ass!!!! you sound like a bitch!!
@finditherefirst i dare you to do that to an american bike cop much less a swat officer...you would be in cuffs so fast you wouldnt have time to turn off your piece of shit car
Watch how the cop starts back peddling at the end, I'm not abusing my power I just wanted to know who you get your insurance from. We really need to take power away from traffic cops. The new 50 over law is a complete sham.
@xdx1990 He beat them in court so they wanted to intimidate him. He stood his ground and exercised his Constitutional Rights. Look what happens in the USA, we do not want that here. He is a hero and you are a coward. They had NO reason to pull him over. The Highway Traffick Act? ya OK what part of it????? LOL Nice job brother.
Unless you have been arrested he dont have to tell you shit .If you are walking down the road and he stops and asks you for your ID cough it up or go to jail .I would say the officer was more than fair with you and kept his cool .If he wanted to be a Dick he could have just said gimee you Lic or go to jail you spout off again you get cuffed and stuffed .Because then it would be non compliance with the law
He got pulled over because he ran a yellow light basically "Every driver approaching a traffic control signal showing an amber arrow indication only or in combination with another indication and facing the indication shall stop his or her vehicle if he or she can do so safely, otherwise he or she may proceed with caution to follow the direction shown by the amber arrow indication. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 144 (16)."
personally, from what i see, the driver is actin like an idiot. the cops are acting completely professional... a lot more professional than i would have. punk kids.
@NismoBao the cops have to have probable cause to stop somebody sometimes they make up a story that you made an illegal lane change or you have a broken tail light
man you r such a idiot yu must have some mental issue people dont go around acting like you do make a dr apointment get checked out . an stop driveing i feel very unsafe wit you out there an again good job to the london cops for being so professional ! but you should have tazed him or spayed him LOL
@bigtruck182 just because that guy actually knows his rights makes him have mental issues?? Your the idiot keep praising your london police hopefully theyll be harassing you in the near future moron
COP was COMPLETELY PEACEFUL! had you NOT BEEN "KNOWN"well maybe you would not have these issues? I am NOT saying is "right", but if i get pulled over i have nothing to worry about... and i prefer it stay like that! stay OUT of the "radar" dude!!!!
It would have been much easier for you to cooperate and hand the officer your ID , registration and insurance papers and let him do his job. Then move on from there as to the reason that he stopped you. All of the arguement was unneeded.
@MarineGuild Stupid fake marine. Doing test your brain or that of a police unless you are a lawyer. Guess what buddy? The lawyers work for the same system that the "police" do. IF you do not understand that a law is specifically a law, then it is not enforceable except by force or coercion. Do you know the difference between a law and a statute, act, code, etc? If not, then shut your mouth and continue to be a slave.
In Ontario the police do NOT need a reason! Under The HTA they can DEMAND D/L, Ownership and Insurance for NO reason whatsoever! It's the law dummy, we're in CANADA, not in The USA! You are a complete moron here. I have NO DOUBT that this was retribution for what happened earlier, but his point is that he doesn't need a reason to ask for the documents, and in Ontario he doesn't!
until you get robbed or shot or stabbed or your house gets broken into or that stalker ex girlfriend is trying to run you over in her car or something.......
so the cop is completely civil, polite, and patient, while the guy with the camera is being a complete ass.
he (camera guy) "has a short memory" but the cop is supposed to be able to quote from memory the entire traffic code?
what is this jerk-off trying to prove? i've encountered cops being rude or stupid, but this one here clearly has the patience of a saint in the face of the filmer's insistence on some imaginary harassment.
@jesusfreak0818 The police followed him home from the courthouse. Watch "London Public vs Private" for the whole story. Oh and calm down a bit...maybe.
@jesusfreak0818 the c op is responsible for informing the guy that which he is being checked, or charged with. obviuosly nothing other than following him home from court because of pissing them off, thats harassment in itself, no matter how patient the cop pretends to be. the cops are letting somebody once again know that they are in charge, something that most people do not like paying for, their salary's. there is a reason the majority of people are sick of these assholes.. fuck em
Cops using this part of the "law" that lets them stop anybody to check sobriety and that their "papers" are in order must realize they are almost nazi's
aluckyshot 2 weeks ago
This cop was obviously trying to intimidate you if he followed you and pulled you over after going to court.
jvangel 2 weeks ago
@jvangel yeah...thats called profiling...and he better have a damn good reason...or my friend would have some serious civil charges...but we don't pick fights...we just don't sit down when they are trying to call our names...
finditherefirst 2 weeks ago
You can't educate idiots
fl3162 3 weeks ago
@fl3162 10-4!
finditherefirst 3 weeks ago
You people who are constantly bashing the police will be the first ones to call them to come to your aid once you need them
Once you are stopped when driving the officer has every right to see your DL in order to know that you are licensed to drive. Driving an automobile is a privilege people not a damn right!
READ and LEARN things and quit acting like fools and then posting the vids that prove as much about you
And next time you need help call a crackhead you likely know plenty of them.
LAPTOPLIZARD 3 weeks ago
your papers please.
Marleyites 3 weeks ago
his name is robert paulson!!! well close enough..
anthony1bad351 1 month ago
if u did not break the law he has no god damn right to take ur ID... fuck this pig.. dont give into them and their fucking bullshi
xandertroy13 1 month ago
stop being so nice to this pig fuck! he obviously doesnt knwo the god damn law.. and he expects to enforce it? this stupid oath violating pig needs something done to him now! stop violating ppls fucking rights simply cause ur too god damn lazy to do ur fuckin job
xandertroy13 1 month ago
chk Robert Menard, John Harris, Jordan Maxwell, Lectures, on U Tube ; Peace :
kaplash 1 month ago
@kaplash 10-4; Peace
finditherefirst 1 month ago
police state anyone!
MUSTBUYRIGHT 1 month ago
"The Highway Traffic Act lets me stop anybody at any time to... ensure all documents are in order", looks like Nazi fucking Germany moved across the channel.
linkdead14 1 month ago 2
And shitheads like this kid are why cops snap and beat the shit out of people 95% of the time... This cop is so extraordinarily patient. He is a very nice guy that was extremely patient with you. Personally if i were a cop I probably would have lost my job that day because I would of inflicted some sever police brutality on you.
raymax1717 1 month ago
@raymax1717 They're there to uphold the law of the land, not the law according to some cop, because that way, the next time it'll be a different cop and a different law. That's how it works. It's fine when it's someone else being a "shithead", wait 'til it happens to you and the cops just 'make shit up' and beat the shit out of you. Unless, of course, you just roll over and surrender your rights.
ForestGrump 1 month ago
You have a right....he has a right............that's all....simple......easy....even small kid's can give a very good respond....and you are very well educate person.....so...show it..not like in the Video
Jaringan2 1 month ago
Pigs are fucking dicks. Harassing citizens under the guise of 'protecting' them.
SoulShepherd84 1 month ago
Wittnessing your behavior surely shows that I would pull you over and beat you with my night stick.
runningwolfkenpo 1 month ago
@runningwolfkenpo well thats all you could do...cause you can't issue tickets with spelling like that!
finditherefirst 1 month ago
@runningwolfkenpo idiot
jvangel 2 weeks ago
I thought the cops had to have a probable cause to pull someone over
graverobber35 1 month ago
i dont see a problem with knowing the law, but this guy is just being a hardass..
snifyoner 1 month ago
0:53 he left out the end saying "with just reason" in other words he needs some evidence/proof to pull you over
ELFHUNTER50 1 month ago
Cops can do anything they want.. They are clearly above the law
edawg781 1 month ago
stupid ass. he had to produce his documents first! geeeez.
fawnthedestroyer 1 month ago
God why must people be dicks and post this online..... Yeah your a douchebag we get it. Get over yourself Mr. Pre-law douchebag.
Tumtumlovesbeer 1 month ago
@Tumtumlovesbeer It's ironic that you say that..
palescale 1 month ago
@palescale awesome comment bro.... wanna cookie?
Tumtumlovesbeer 1 month ago
@Tumtumlovesbeer Yes please :)
palescale 1 month ago
This is police in London?
Wow. It seems as if USA is more oppressive then UK.
hamberg42 1 month ago
@hamberg42 London Ontario Canada...fyi
finditherefirst 1 month ago
That officer if full of it. In order to pull you over, you would have had to commit an infraction or a crime. I wouldn't even have stepped out of the car until he told me which law or infraction I broke. Hopefully you filed a formal complaint since he stepped all over your rights.
dustindammeier 2 months ago
finditherefirst
My douche bag of a human species who I have to share breath space with. You are dumbass and you are just giving the police the hard time with the camera. You are a freaking loser as we see on Camera. No, Wonder why you were already in court once half an hour ago. LOSER!
BigBerg95 2 months ago
Quoted from the description. "'officer' who did not identify himself as they had intercourse earlier on in the day" You had intercourse and you didnt know his name? MANWHORE!
Theshamruck 2 months ago
The government agent *asked* for his government issued STRAWMAN identification. W/o establishing your STRAWMAN identity they have nothing to work with.
umhchud 2 months ago
@twin1010101010 FREEMEN WOULD BE DEAD BY THE THOUSANDS SINCE THEY ARE THE ONES COMMITTING TREASON.
greywolf424 2 months ago
man, nazi city....followed him like a thug sic on the prey...
sssssjjjj1 2 months ago
If he was black, he would have died at the end of the video.
vincentrich 2 months ago 8
In the description:
"...as they had intercouse earlier on in the day." You give new meaning to the term "butt-hurt."
vincentrich 2 months ago
i dont say the cop is harrassing i say the guy is a fucking jackass.
BOHICA256 2 months ago
@BOHICA256 good for you!
finditherefirst 2 months ago
@BOHICA256 you are a great example of what is wrong with the world today
TheCornedbeefhasable 2 months ago
@TheCornedbeefhasable Because the jackass with the camera just wont follow the Officers instructions? No this guy is a perfect example of what is wrong with the world today. He thinks he knows more than everyone else and is being a bitch about it. Instead of just following instructions he thinks he is some smartass by trying to prove people wrong. Police dont just pull people over for shits and giggles.
BOHICA256 2 months ago
@BOHICA256 "Police dont just pull people over for shits and giggles". lol i dont know what world you live in bro. do some homework or get out a bit more. notice nothing happened. if this man was causing a problem something would have been done. the cop backed off because he new he had nothing on the kid. following orders is facism questoning authority is freedom. this kid obviously stood is ground and should be admired for his courage; rather than ridiculed
TheCornedbeefhasable 2 months ago
@TheCornedbeefhasable This is one of the things we are blessed with. Freedom, so you have your opinion and I have mine. And I can say almost whatever I want and so can you. Yeah nothing happened while the camera was on.. but its cool bro. you stick to your thinking as everyone that doesnt think like you is a "great example of what is wrong with the world today" attitude and tell me how far you get in life.
BOHICA256 2 months ago
@BOHICA256 You are a lamb brain. Not everyone grovel's at authority. U can go along to get along
mike81egan 2 months ago
this cop is doing nothing but harrassing...he couldnt get him in court so they waited and bullied him when he left
Venomn1 2 months ago 2
Cuff that fkn idiot and call for a wagon. End of conversation.
ten8goa 2 months ago
@ten8goa Thank you for being a great example of what is wrong with the world today
TheCornedbeefhasable 2 months ago
he wants the license to establish that the driver is operating in a government capacity.
SHNUCAU 2 months ago
@SHNUCAU ding ding ding!!!
finditherefirst 2 months ago
@SHNUCAU what does that mean? Not trying to be a dick I just dont understand.
StovePots 2 months ago
@StovePots Let me try to sum this up for you in 480 characters or less. The subject you are inquiring about is a very in depth one. First, you need to understand the difference between rights and privileges. To exercise a right, one does not need permission. Do you have a right to travel? If so, why do you need a permission, granted through a license, to travel in a car? By asking for a license one seeks government approval to travel in a car.
SHNUCAU 2 months ago
@StovePots Those who ask for permission must not have the right to do it in the first place, and the person or entity from whom the permission is sought must be of greater authority than he who asks permission. Now, it is my understanding that the license is only necessary for those who are operating in a government capacity. The reason for this is because statutes, acts, codes, regulations, and bylaws do not apply to people. The term sovereign or freeman man come to mind.
SHNUCAU 2 months ago
@StovePots However it is referred to, what it means is that those rules I just mentioned only apply to people acting in a government capacity. To use the words of Robert: Menard (paraphrased), how is it you can walk out of a Wal-Mart bathroom without washing your hands if there is a sign posted stating that all employees must wash their hands before leaving the bathroom? The answer is that you are not an employee. Those regulations do not apply to you. This is the case with the license.
SHNUCAU 2 months ago
@StovePots Because police believe, as most of the U. S. and Canadian population, that the "rules" I mentioned before apply to everyone, they enforce to codes and ordinances in every situation. This is where things get a little more complicated. A person can have a license to do something, but never act in that capacity. Dean Clifford gave a great example of a situation that will help you understand. He The situation goes as follows (hypothetically, of course):
SHNUCAU 2 months ago
@StovePots Dean is sitting at home with his feet propped up on his wood stove relaxing and drinking a beer. A government agent, I do not know who would enforce this statute in Canada where he lives, comes into his home and demands his fishing license. He says, "Okay." and gives it to the man demanding it. The government agent states, "You can't be drinkin and fishin!" In the situation just described, dean is not operating in a government capacity.
SHNUCAU 2 months ago
@StovePots He has a license, for whatever reason, but is not fishing as a function of government. Now, on to your question. When an officer asks for a driver's license, and a person produces it, it is presumed that because the person is licensed, they are operating in a government capacity under that license. As this is the case, the officer, who really does not understand the information I have just explained here, writes a citation of some sort.
SHNUCAU 2 months ago
@StovePots This explanation likely has only led to more questions regarding the situation. There is much that I do not understand regarding the law. Dean Clifford is who I would look into. Freemanitoba(dot)com is a great website with information regarding this and many other issues. Also t4tt(dot)info is another great site.
SHNUCAU 2 months ago
I might not be up to date, but I'm pretty sure the police can't pull you over without cause just to check your papers and sobriety
petegriswold 2 months ago 7
You have to be arrested to show your ID. Sorry otherwise this guy is wrong.
Bruce1949919 2 months ago
u r FUBAR LET THE COPPA DO HIS JOB YOU STILL GOTTA DO WHAT YOUR TOLD, HE'S A GOOD COP not to say there's Bad ONE'S but
deffknjeff 2 months ago
@deffknjeff Caps lock is cruise control for cool
StovePots 2 months ago
there was no reason for the cop to think there was any paperwork problem with this driver or the car he was in. in addition, he's trying to use ambers law to justify the initial contact. this is obviously an illegal stop
mfrank165 2 months ago
@mfrank165 with the current reading of the law, a law enforcement officer can stop any vehicle and ask for the paperwork. there are hundreds of reason they can stop a vehicle including needing to check the paperwork.
for them to DETAIN you, its another matter.
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
dude, then shut up and give him the driving licence.... if i were that cop i would had arrested you, becuase you refused to give information which the police got the right to get information which will be for your own safety.... and btw the cop is human so if you get on his nerves its your fault that something happens, its different if you co-operate with the police, they will be more friendly.
timetowarclan 2 months ago
@timetowarclan you sound like a typical idiot cop
mfrank165 2 months ago
@mfrank165 i'm not a cop, i'm just a person that respect the safety regulations. What if the incoming traffic had crashed into each other to try to avoid the one that crossed the traffic lights red? and as far as i know a city like London ppl don't drive with 10KM/H lol so in my opinion he endangered other ppl.
timetowarclan 2 months ago
or if you are free to go. at that point, the officer needs, to cite you, arrest you (ask for what reason), or let you go. they cannot detain you once you reveal that you want to leave. if you continue to talk to the officer, you are consenting to the detainment.
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
the most successful way to deal with police during a traffic stop is to show your identification as required, but do not open your door. if you are asked to get out of the vehicle, exit the vehicle and close the door behind you and state that you do not consent to a search. (do not consent to a search if you own a used vehicle or have any high value items like laptops because they are not liable to any damages during a consented search). when you're out the vehicle, ask if you are being detained
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
the contractual consent is given at the time of passage into law. you can always schedule an appointment with a lawyer to discuss these matters, but your personal interpretation of legal terms may not always be the one that's understood by the law of the land at the present time.
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
@ReportTheHackers Yer in latin is? I will accept council on proof of claim that my current council is not sufficient. My maker has set me as trustee...how can I give contractual consent at the time of passage into law when the law says nothing about giving away the will I am entrusted with. What if the law of the land has not yet been implemented...its all just dead on the sea can't you see?
finditherefirst 2 months ago
@finditherefirst i'm sorry but that's current implementation of the law. you can challenge the constitutionality of the act but until then, you are required to show identification to the officer if you are the operator of a vehicle. no amount of logic can replace the established judicial process, least of all replace the practical need to enforce and regulate your use of a deadly weapon, the car, in the most real, literal, and common sense.
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
@ReportTheHackers and why cant logic replace the judicial proccess? we have allowed corruption to do it.... and i dont need the government to regulate my gun, my car, or my anything... they are mine, and mine alone. if you love socialism so much why dont you move out of a country founded on freedom?
mfrank165 2 months ago
@mfrank165 how do you achieve something practically vs engaging everyone's logic and not offending everybody's interpretation of a concept like freedom.
for instance, years of communicating with faceless people on the internet have taught certain people that personal attacks and one liners achieve the best practical results instead of actually trying to engage, listen, and understand.
so again you can challenge the current law of the land in court, but until otherwise it's the law.
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
@mfrank165 you can argue what's right and wrong and 100 people can have 100 opinons and thats ok. that's my take on freedom in our country. it seems that for you, freedom means that everyone has to agree with you or you have to attack them personally.
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
@mfrank165 if you want logic then here, the practical needs of a country changes with time and advances in technology. i don't see you arguing that traffic lights and stop signs impede your 4th amend rights but yet they do in the strictest of sense. there's a need to regulate traffic. just like there's a need to regulate the people driving a 2 ton vehicle down the road. imagine if there's no enforcement then no one would feel obligated to have proper paperwork. narcoleptic & epileptics rejoyce
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
@finditherefirst self-restraint is a virtue, education is a priviledge. ad hominem attacks is not only a fallacy, it's the lowest form at such. you have no idea what my background is and there's no need to even go there, unless you have nothing better to say.
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
@ReportTheHackers i was going to school you in the constitution and bill of rights but finditherefirst did it for me. our government is illegal and breaking laws every day, consent to nothing demand all of your human rights
mfrank165 2 months ago
the cop is not wrong, there's an exception for any individual in a vehicle, that they are required to show identification when requested. cops are not required to read the act when requested. it is not a right to ask to be educated as a citizen of a law or any corollaries. it is the duty and responsibility or each citizen to know the law and responsibility they are under.
ReportTheHackers 2 months ago
@ReportTheHackers FYI this video is not a Freeman video...or a video about rights...these two officers followed this guy home from the courthouse. Report what hackers bro? Who is a citizen here? Please ease up with the BAD legal advice in the comment section! Go practice elsewhere if you don't mind...feel free to stay at the same time...see how I don't order you to ascribe to much if anything yet you express exactly how it is like you know for sure in reality rather than your illegal society.
finditherefirst 2 months ago
.......cont'd....unfortunately the Police do not understand this. I carry this info on a small card in the glove box...saves over talking. I am always very polite and relaxed and tell them how worthwhile they are !!...they try everything to get jurisdiction. I just point to the card and keep recording......Do you know it is a 'offence' to lie to the police sir?...yes I do......Do you know it is a bigger offence to lie to me Constable ?...you swore a OATH......I have not!
119supersniper 2 months ago
Any 'Act' invoked by the Police , in fact any legislation, requires contractual CONSENT. That is the issue....not any bullshit regarding what a person is. The fact should of been that he was not operating under The Highway ACT....as he was conducting his lawful business in a private conveyance, of which, may I assume he had total equity. The Officer confirmed this by not writing a ticket with regard to the alleged infraction. He may of stated he was not compelled to perform under duress.
119supersniper 2 months ago
Another corrupt cop at it again.
Live4Redline 2 months ago
thats right officer. get back in your car and leave. you know your role and who has the REAL power...and its not the douche with the gun and fake ass badge..."oh thank you sir..." thats right officer...call me sir and leave.DONT FORGET THEY WORK FOR US...great video.
MultiCommLimited 2 months ago
that shits work for white people smh only if this country was fair!
waayout 3 months ago
They had intercourse...?? "GOLD! Robert might have seemed a bit non-peaceful but he is certainly being taunted by this 'officer' who did not identify himself as they had intercourse earlier on in the day"
SEX ALWAYS COMPLICATES THINGS...
TheJSniffin 3 months ago
In Canada you can be pulled over for the police to ensure the vehicle is insured?
Nice police state. The US isn't that far yet.
billybobjoe198 3 months ago
gotta LOVE how they can pull you over for nothing up here.. my record was 13x's in one year.
ill318 3 months ago
@usagora "When you are steadfast in your abstention of thoughts of harm towards your self and all others, all wild beasts will cease to sense fear in your presence!" ~can't remember...
finditherefirst 3 months ago
he is a jackass and he thinks is above the law, people like that need to realize that no person is above the law
MrNumber80 3 months ago
@MrNumber80 He's not a person, he has a person. No officers are above the statutes...you do clearly not understand what the LAW is. Enjoy your day!
finditherefirst 3 months ago
@finditherefirst what do you mean he has a person and he's not a person? What is he, an alien, and go learn some grammar before you start being a d bag to people. The end, I win...oh Enjoy your day!
MrNumber80 3 months ago
@MrNumber80 I will thank you! What I mean is he is a man not a person. That simple. Look up Legal Dictionary in the dictionary.
finditherefirst 3 months ago
LICENSE, International law. An authority given by one of two belligerent
parties, to the citizens or subjects of the other, to carry on a specified
trade.
DRIVER. One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other
vehicle, with horses, mules, or other animals.
TRAFFIC. Commerce, trade, sale or exchange of merchandise, bills, money and
the like.
ACT, civil law, contracts. A writing which states in a legal form that a
thing has been said, done, or agreed.
bugsz1 3 months ago
Assumption of law.
bugsz1 3 months ago
double plus good duckspeak metroshica
v666v66 3 months ago
please please please please please come to the USA and try this dumb shit. See what happens to you. LOL the blood will flow.
MickScarborough 3 months ago
@MickScarborough There are many...and yes many doctors, lawyers and other servants will be very upset with themselves when they see the truth. Blood flows by nature...what are you getting at?
finditherefirst 3 months ago
@MickScarborough I've done it here in the U.S. and I was falsely arrested and Falsely charged and falsely imprisoned. I Beat the charges on my own as a Pro Se litigant and now I'm suing in federal court for the violation of my civil and human right. if you think I'm lying here is the case # Civ 7919. This is not Nazi Germany and I don't have to Identify my self just cause you say so, their must be probable cause for any officer to have any authority to demand anything.
cholo2les 3 months ago
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fmnma1 3 months ago
This cop is wrong .
truckerbone 3 months ago
@truckerbone very wrong! He followed this guy to his house from the courthouse...the court case being the issue of contention!
finditherefirst 3 months ago
Wow this cop is amazingly professional, you are such a moron, should've hauled your ass off to jail
Metroshica 3 months ago
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@Metroshica
Yeah, well every single time they do that and violate our rights, they put 'themselves at risk'... Assaults on law enforcement is at an all time high, coincidence(?), doubt it!
fmnma1 3 months ago
you cant pull people over just because you feel like it1
pinkfloydfan8 3 months ago
@pinkfloydfan8 but they do quite often eh? I was even handcuffed once on nothing but unconfirmed suspicion. They should check themselves more often!
finditherefirst 3 months ago
@pinkfloydfan8 unfortunately it is the law that while you are operating a motor vehicle they can pull you over for no reason.
416mcskinny 3 months ago
yea i like watching youtube videos where the cops are assholes, but this video the cop isn't the ass..................
sablemase 3 months ago 2
The cop belongs in jail. Making a traffic stop with out probable cause is illegal. The cop cannot stop someone "just to see your papers." Only nazi's stop people just to see their papers.
snarky77005 3 months ago 2
@snarky77005 watch "London Public vs Private" for the full context of this video...these "officers" followed them from the courthouse because something very strange was going on!
finditherefirst 3 months ago
He was a good cop and your an ass.
jakesuby 3 months ago
@jakesuby to each their own...lol
finditherefirst 3 months ago
ur an asshole. i like the cop. he was only being nice to u. n look wat u got in return a locked car... karma is a bitch... n so r u
dringdringhello 3 months ago
@dringdringhello lmao!
finditherefirst 3 months ago
People don't know their rights. He didn't have to answer most of those questions.
spankula123 3 months ago
Cops are so stupid, FREE PEOPLE don't have to give you anything, you have to tell us what we've done wrong before we have to give you anything, you work for us.
auditorization 3 months ago
WHAT???WHAT HAPPENED TO PROBABLE CAUSE!!!
WHAT HIGHWAY ACT???
3344utube 3 months ago
He didn't post himself walking a couple of miles to get his replacement key or waiting around for it. He is lucky, the cops didn't arrest him for failing to identify himself. But, having locked himself out, I'm sure the cops were laughing all the way to the road. Also, hear the guy self-describe getting in the cops face back at the courthouse? Lets just say, I doubt this guy is going to catch a break when - and I mean when - he gets himself into trouble again.
iclubnyc1 3 months ago
he sounds like an 8 year old girl.
68camify 4 months ago
what a dip shit and his partner either and where are the swat officer. in the states u'd be eating pavement,,,what an ass!!!! you sound like a bitch!!
brittboyer1 4 months ago
@brittboyer1 know you are but what am I?
finditherefirst 4 months ago
@finditherefirst you are a bitch and you should of been fucked up and sent to jail
MoparYEEEAH 4 months ago
@MoparYEEEAH conditionally accepted upon proof of claim...
finditherefirst 4 months ago
@finditherefirst i dare you to do that to an american bike cop much less a swat officer...you would be in cuffs so fast you wouldnt have time to turn off your piece of shit car
MoparYEEEAH 4 months ago
@brittboyer1
thewoodenrobin 3 months ago
LOL fuck these nazi's..papers please my ass
TheDman216 4 months ago
Watch how the cop starts back peddling at the end, I'm not abusing my power I just wanted to know who you get your insurance from. We really need to take power away from traffic cops. The new 50 over law is a complete sham.
petark1000 4 months ago
Cops were very professional, dude was just being a dick. Give cops a hard time and they'll do the same with you.
xdx1990 4 months ago
@xdx1990 He beat them in court so they wanted to intimidate him. He stood his ground and exercised his Constitutional Rights. Look what happens in the USA, we do not want that here. He is a hero and you are a coward. They had NO reason to pull him over. The Highway Traffick Act? ya OK what part of it????? LOL Nice job brother.
freedomination2 4 months ago
this is America! just give him your ID and shut the fuck up! take you ticket and scurry on home!
kanserstyx 4 months ago
@kanserstyx It's in Canada, hence he isn't on the ground at gun point.
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UncleSlippie 4 months ago
Unless you have been arrested he dont have to tell you shit .If you are walking down the road and he stops and asks you for your ID cough it up or go to jail .I would say the officer was more than fair with you and kept his cool .If he wanted to be a Dick he could have just said gimee you Lic or go to jail you spout off again you get cuffed and stuffed .Because then it would be non compliance with the law
truckdawg43 4 months ago
I would've arrested him for not being compliant.
PayneProdutions 4 months ago
He got pulled over because he ran a yellow light basically "Every driver approaching a traffic control signal showing an amber arrow indication only or in combination with another indication and facing the indication shall stop his or her vehicle if he or she can do so safely, otherwise he or she may proceed with caution to follow the direction shown by the amber arrow indication. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 144 (16)."
deadlywario0 4 months ago
personally, from what i see, the driver is actin like an idiot. the cops are acting completely professional... a lot more professional than i would have. punk kids.
TunerMikeT 4 months ago
If you didn't have the camera you would have been fu....ked.
johnnyboypdq 4 months ago
dont fuck with the police, they got more back up
rolesvill 4 months ago
i love the crotch shots..sexay
purplegypsylady777 4 months ago
this cop is a jack ass!!
fitnesspossible 4 months ago
you're an idiot. he clearly said that you ran a red light multiple times. he doesn't have to know what the number of the law is.
brimacki 5 months ago
could of just showed him you drivers license........
MOreReptile 5 months ago
First if that's London, Ontario it's ETF not SWAT. Second, They are not ETF, at 5:41 you can see POLICE on his jacket.
Neomaxizundweeby 5 months ago
So... Why DID you get pulled over?
NismoBao 5 months ago
@NismoBao Collusion!
finditherefirst 5 months ago
@NismoBao the cops have to have probable cause to stop somebody sometimes they make up a story that you made an illegal lane change or you have a broken tail light
spacepatrolman 4 months ago
@NismoBao He told him at the start - he can stop anyone to check documents - that's enough. What a dick
rozzerbob 3 months ago
man you r such a idiot yu must have some mental issue people dont go around acting like you do make a dr apointment get checked out . an stop driveing i feel very unsafe wit you out there an again good job to the london cops for being so professional ! but you should have tazed him or spayed him LOL
bigtruck182 5 months ago
@bigtruck182 Good old Ontario humour I guess...your comments are hilarious!
finditherefirst 5 months ago
@bigtruck182 Learn to type before you submit a comment please.
ruledeck 5 months ago
@bigtruck182 just because that guy actually knows his rights makes him have mental issues?? Your the idiot keep praising your london police hopefully theyll be harassing you in the near future moron
bossman519 4 months ago
DUMB ASS!
padams74 5 months ago
COP was COMPLETELY PEACEFUL! had you NOT BEEN "KNOWN"well maybe you would not have these issues? I am NOT saying is "right", but if i get pulled over i have nothing to worry about... and i prefer it stay like that! stay OUT of the "radar" dude!!!!
brendalancaster11 5 months ago
It would have been much easier for you to cooperate and hand the officer your ID , registration and insurance papers and let him do his job. Then move on from there as to the reason that he stopped you. All of the arguement was unneeded.
JamesWorley 5 months ago
dont argue with the cop , go to the top
skwid12 5 months ago
This is Martial Law??? That kids been listening to too much Alex Jones.
soukupb 5 months ago
Stupid guy. Doing test the patience of a police unless you are a lawyer.
MarineGuild 5 months ago
@MarineGuild Stupid fake marine. Doing test your brain or that of a police unless you are a lawyer. Guess what buddy? The lawyers work for the same system that the "police" do. IF you do not understand that a law is specifically a law, then it is not enforceable except by force or coercion. Do you know the difference between a law and a statute, act, code, etc? If not, then shut your mouth and continue to be a slave.
chop98 5 months ago
In Ontario the police do NOT need a reason! Under The HTA they can DEMAND D/L, Ownership and Insurance for NO reason whatsoever! It's the law dummy, we're in CANADA, not in The USA! You are a complete moron here. I have NO DOUBT that this was retribution for what happened earlier, but his point is that he doesn't need a reason to ask for the documents, and in Ontario he doesn't!
BunkerGearGal 5 months ago
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Did you just say your social security on the video? haha
MFRaptor 5 months ago
PRICK!
MFRaptor 5 months ago
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@fullchoke77 absolutely, fuck 'em.
until you get robbed or shot or stabbed or your house gets broken into or that stalker ex girlfriend is trying to run you over in her car or something.......
jesusfreak0818 5 months ago
so the cop is completely civil, polite, and patient, while the guy with the camera is being a complete ass.
he (camera guy) "has a short memory" but the cop is supposed to be able to quote from memory the entire traffic code?
what is this jerk-off trying to prove? i've encountered cops being rude or stupid, but this one here clearly has the patience of a saint in the face of the filmer's insistence on some imaginary harassment.
dude, a cop talking to you is not harassment!
jesusfreak0818 5 months ago 6
@jesusfreak0818 The police followed him home from the courthouse. Watch "London Public vs Private" for the whole story. Oh and calm down a bit...maybe.
finditherefirst 5 months ago
@finditherefirst i can totally relate....i am constantly harrassed by the opp here in StMarys ontario...
bunch of corrupt bullies....i hate them all
hunkyguyjake 4 months ago
@jesusfreak0818 the c op is responsible for informing the guy that which he is being checked, or charged with. obviuosly nothing other than following him home from court because of pissing them off, thats harassment in itself, no matter how patient the cop pretends to be. the cops are letting somebody once again know that they are in charge, something that most people do not like paying for, their salary's. there is a reason the majority of people are sick of these assholes.. fuck em
fullchoke77 5 months ago