the level of dificulty to sing these things is so hard..he's very good,the air control is perfect...whom dont percept this dont know nothing about opera
ДЕВОЧКИ!ПЕРЕСТАНЬТЕ ССОРИТЬСЯ.А ДЛЯ ЧЕГО НУЖНЫ ПЕВЦЫ И ПЕНИЕ ВООБЩЕ?НУ ГОВОРИЛИ БЫ СЕБЕ ЛЮДИ И ЗАЧЕМ ОНИ ПОЮТ?ВОТ ИМЕННО.ЧТОБЫ УЙТИ ОТ РЕАЛЬНОСТИ,ПОТОМУ ЧТО ТАМ,ВНУТРИ ЭТОГО ГОЛОСА,КАЖДЫЙ ВИДИТ ТОЛЬКО ТО ,ЧТО ОН ХОЧЕТ,ЧЕГО В РЕАЛЕ НЕ БЫВАЕТ.И У КАЖДОГО СВОЙ ПЕВЕЦ.СЛАВА БОГУ ИХ МНОГО И ОНИ ВСЕ РАЗНЫЕ.
@kosoglazaya1 Da,nu ya vas pozdravlyayu:vy schitaete, chto ya, nazyvaya veshi svoimi imenami, t.e. kommentiruya tol'ko to, chto artist delaet na stsene, i chto Philippe Jaroussky ne nastoyashii kontrtenor, a deshevaya poddelka na nego v pop stile, nesu polnuyu chuch'. Tak vot, vy svoim polnym bredom naschet togo, chto u nego na spine vyroli serebryanye kryl'ya sumeli dostat' dazhe "dear Janochka", madam JaRoWie, kotoraya obozhaet vsekh, kto emu zadnitsu tseluet! Eto velichaishee dostizhenie!LOL
@serenaluceНу мадам Яна взрослый человек, сама разберется кто по настоящему любит ф.ж,про вас я вообще молчу-у вас воспаление мозга-это очень серьезно!И скажу я вам -я буду слушать то что я хочу ,когда хочу и для меня существует серебристый ангел с его волшебными крыльями,хотя такие как вы любые крылья обломаете!Но ,к счастью,сейчас я уже переросла первый щенячий восторг голосом Ф.Ж.и перешла на другой уровень. С любовью.
@kosoglazaya1 Interesno, a kak eto vy opredelili, chto u MENYA vospolenie mozga,a ne u VAS?LOL Ne khotite vnimat' druzheskomu sovetu,delo vashe. I vy po idee dolzhny byt' vzroslym chelovekom i ponimat', chto eto tol'ko obmen mneniyami na YT.Mne na vashego PJ gluboko naplevat',tol'ko ya emu lichno nikogda nichego plokhogo ne zhelala,i nikomu kryl'ya ne oblamyvayut, tem bolee tem, u kogo ikh prosto net! LOL Da net, ne pererosli vy eshe shenyachii vostorg, esli s kryl'yami nikak ne ugomonites'!LOL
аЙ.аЙ !ТАК УЖ И ГЕНИЙ?!ХОТЯ НЕ СПОРЮ,ВАМ ВИДНЕЕ.зВУКИ НЕ МОГУТ БЫТЬ НИ СЛАДКИМИ ,НИКАКИМИ.ЭТО ПРОСТО КТО КАК СЛЫШИТ.Я У Ф.Ж. НЕ СЛЫШАЛА НИ ОДНОЙ СЛАДКОЙ НОТЫ,ТОЛЬКО БОЛЬ,СТРАДАНИЕ,ПЕЧАЛЬ,ГНЕВ,ОСОБЕННО В ЭТОЙ АРИИ.НАОБОРОТ,ЕГО ПЕНИЕ НАСТРАИВАЕТ МЕНЯ НА САМОАНАЛИЗ,НА ОСМЫСЛЕНИЕ МОЕЙ ЖИЗНИ.ЭТО ТАК ЗДОРОВО,ЧТО Я МОГУ СПРЯТАТЬСЯ ОТ РЕАЛЬНОЙ ЖИЗНИ В ЭТОМ ВОЛШЕБНОМ ГОЛОСЕ СЕРЕБРИСТОГО АНГЕЛА.С УВАЖЕНИЕМ
@kosoglazaya1 A mozhno i ne perekhodit' na vse zaglavnye bukvy! Vot s etogo i nado nachinat', chto vy prosto khotite spryatat'sya or real'noi zhizni v pustykh i sladkikh zvukakh etogo mal'chika-zaichika "Young-for-ever", kotoryi tol'ko delaet trogatel'nye "nevinnye" lichiki i pritvoryaetsya etakim angelochkom, chto k nastoyashei opere nikakogo otnosheniya ne imeet. Vy prosto khotite, chtoby vas kormili sladkoi lozh'yu! Vam samoanalizom SEBYA nado zanyat'sya, chego vam v zhizni ne khvataet...
@lara777ize A ya ne tol'ko Spanosa imeyu v vidu,a voobshe geniev.Tol'ko vopros v tom, kto i kogo schitaet geniem. Vot lyudi s uma skhodyat ot etogo deshevogo pop parodista na barokko PJ i nazyvayut EGO geniem:-) Esli vy ne znali, to genii - eto ekraordinarny talant. Skol'ko lyudei, stol'ko i mnenii. A mne vot naprimer ot golosa Caruso ni kholodno, ni zharko, a on "genii i legenda".Esli VAM Spanos ne ponyaten, to ego fans on ochen' ponyaten."Talantam nado pomogat', bezdarnosti prob'yutsya sami":)
@serenaluce Spanos не философ, и не писатель и иже с ними, чтобы я не могла понять его своим скудным умишком. Он ремесленник от искусства, равно как и все остальные исполнители, и отличается от других лишь своими техническими характеристиками. А фаны на то и фаны, чтобы воспринимать предмет своего поклонения как нечто экстраординарное.
@lara777ize Nu da,a chto geniyami mogut byt' tol'ko pisateli i filosofy?A kompozitory, naprimer,net?Bach i Tchaikovskii - ne genii?A tol'ko remeslenniki ot iskusstva? Naschet "skudnogo umishka" ya nichego ne govorila. Eto vy po svoei initsiative dobavlyaete.Ya tol'ko skazala, chto skol'ko lyudei, stol'ko i mnenii. Znachit, esli Platon umer ochen' davno, on - genii. Nu, navernoe Oscar Wilde dlya vas genii, a on skazal:"To be popular one must be a mediocrity".Eto naschet PJ,a prichem tut Spanos?:)
@serenaluce Повторяетесь относительно Уайльда, я это уже слышала. А вообще у меня есть ощущение, что у Вас три предпочтения на все случаи - Уайльд - Лемос - Спанос. И как всегда, Вы не понимаете меня, Вы принимаете каждое мое слово буквально. Полноте, мы ж говорим на русском языке, а он сродни санскриту - "языку философов и поэтов", и полон намеков и полутонов. Я хотела лишь сказать, что не нужно большого ума, чтобы понять Лемоса.
@lara777ize Nu znachit nuzhen bol'shoi um,chtoby ponyat' Spanosa:-).Znachit, on genii, a genii ne vsem ponyatny:-)Voobshe, eto zhe iskusstvo! Vse sub'ektivno! Eto na urovne emotsii, a ne uma!:-) Pro Wilde da, kayus', moya slabost' - prosto obozhayu ego, i mogu naiti u nego tsitaty na vse sluchai zhizni. A chto - eto plokho? Kto vam meshaet vashikh lyubimykh geniev tsitirovat'? Ya etu tsitatu upotrebila opyat' po delu. Vse-taki po-vashemu poluchaetsya,chto geniev net, a vse tol'ko remeslenniki:)
@serenaluce Ну, вот опять, я Вам про Фому, Вы мне про Ерему. Давайте прекратим этот бестолковый разговор. Меня, честно говоря, сейчас интересует совсем иное: со вчерашнего дня не дает покоя вопрос, является ли "Fandango del SigR Escarlate" Доменико Скарлатти сонатой, и если да, то какой у нее номер по каталогу Киркпатрика. Весь интернет перерыла, не могу ничего найти. Вы часом, не знаете?
@lara777ize Net, chasom ne znayu. Voobshe, esli mneniya ne sovpadayut, to eto chasto i kazhetsya, chto kto-to pro Fomu, a drugoi pro Eremu:-). Kak ya i govorila - eto tol'ko obmen mneniyami na YT, i nikto nikogo ne ubedit. Vse eto sofistika i demagogiya. A iskusstvo - eto emotsii:-).
@serenaluce Вот здесь я с Вами полностью согласна, искусство - это эмоции. Так давайте же не будем навязывать никому свое собственное мнение и говорить, что кто-то поет лучше кого-то, а будем просто слушать тех, кого мы любим, без фанатизма и экзальтированности.
@lara777ize Slushaite, eto bylo by v ideale, tol'ko lyudi ne ideal'ny i vsegda SRAVNIVAYUT i vyskazyvayut svoe mnenie. Vsegda sporyat i dokazyvayut, chto ikh favourites luchshe i pochemu. I vo vse vremena eto bylo, a inache ni muzyka by ne razvivalas' i ne menyalas', ni etot mir. Eto bor'ba za vyzhivanie tozhe. Vot vy zhe tozhe napisali, chto samyi krasivyi is zapisannykh kontrtenorov golos u Cencic.A pochemu?Drugie vam skazhut, chto est' luchshe.Vy napisali,chto nikto ne sravnitsya s Bartoli???
@lara777ize Interesno,a vy tam v Rossii nikogda ne spite?:-)Ya vot uzhe sobirayus' spat' v Kanade:-)Oi, neuzheli eto ne vy govorili na video Cencic, seichas soobrazhu kakom, chto vse ravno Bartoli luchshe vsekh? Navernoe ya uzhe putayu russkikh:-) Interesno, a kem vy vot tak voskhishaetes' bez fanatizma, no goryacho? U vas tol'ko chto-to kakoi-to raschetlivyi analiz. A vot kto vashi favourites?Ya esli voskhishayus', tak pokazyvayu eto,no ne govoryu,chto u kogo-to serebryanye kryl'ya vyrosli!LOL
@serenaluce Это называется "слышу звон, не знаю где он". В тех комментах к Фарнаку, я сказала, что у Cencic самый красивый голос, и тут же добавила, что это мнение австрийского журнала....
@lara777ize Net, eto bylo drugoe video na kanale operabaroque ili chto-to vrode etogo, no account uzhe zakryt. Nu, esli eto byli ne vy, izvinite:-). A kak vam Batoli?Ya ee na dukh ne perenoshu:-)
@lara777ize Tak nravitsya ona vam ili net,esli my prosto obmenivaemsya mneniyami?:-)Kem vy voobshe voskhishaetes',esli eto ne sekret? Vy, konechno, po moim favourites obo mne tozhe mnenie sostavili:-)
@lara777ize A eto pochemu-to tol'ko na etom video glyuchit do 200 znakov, a na drugikh do 500:-). A u vas tak mnogo favourites, chto dazhe neskol'kikh samykh-samykh nel'zya zdes'?:-) Udachi vam!
Это не важно кто был первым контртенором в жизни,главное что он сделал для вас своим голосом.Вы говорите у вас запросы большие,но в чем? В том ,чтобы спеть арию по всем канонам вокального искусства?Я честно прослушала очень много контр теноров, в том числе и тех,кот.рекомендовали мне вы,но видит бог!ни один не вызвал у меня никаких эмоций.Очень понравилась Ч.Б.Дерик Ли Р,А.Шолль..Но вот ваш Спанос ничего не всколыхнул в моей душе,уж простите!Теперь мою любовь к Ф.Ж. невозможно убить!С уваж.
@kosoglazaya1 Gosposdi,da ne sobirayus' ya ubivat' vashu lyubov' k PJ.Zaprosy u menya bol'shie ne v tom plane, chto kto-to po notam poet. Eto kak raz govoryat professional'nye muzykanty pro PJ, khotya on ne mozhet barokko po notam pet', t.k. ono postroeno na kontrapunkte, na kontrastakh, a on monotonno pilikaet na odnoi note, a potom prosto vybodit pustye sladkie treli,ispol'zuya velikuyu muzyku v svoikh interesakh. Nu ne vskolykhnul VASHU dushu Spanos,i slava bogu.Ne vsem dano ponyat' geniev!:)
дорогая сирена!, !Это просто мои мысли вслух.Я пишу для серебристого ангела эти письма которые он никогда не прочитает и,не узнает, что в далекой России есть человек,которому он изменил весь мир!Поздравляю всех с днем святого Валентина!Хочу чтобы каждый встретил свою любовь,как я встретила свою!Вы знаете,я самый счастливый человек на свете,я встретила своего серебристого ангела!Чего и всем желаю!С любовью!
@kosoglazaya1 Oi, pravda, zachem ssorit'sya?:-) Ya vas tozhe pozdravlyayu s Dnem Svyatogo Valentina i vsekh tozhe!:-) A vot dlya menya Kowalski izmenil ves' moi mir, kogda ya ego uslyshala. Eto byl moi pervyi kontrtenor, kotoryi dlya menya ustanovil ochen' vysokuyu planku, i zaprosy u menya ochen' bol'shie:-).
несравненный филипп жаруски поздравляю тебя с днем рождения!Я так счастлива ,что ты открыл мне заново всю красоту музыки.Будь всегда рядом со мной серебристый ангел !
@kosoglazaya1 A vy dumaete, on po-russki ponimaet?!:-) Khot' by po-angliiski ego pozdravili:-). Da, zhal' mne vas, chto dlya vas vsya krasota muzyki eto tol'ko deshevye popsovye parodii PJ na barokko, no ya sama pozdravlyayu svoikh lyubimykh artistov na YT, tak chto osuzhdat' zdes' vas ne mogu:-).
фаринелли пел в фильме арию лаша кье пьянга.Мне очень понравилось как спели Дерек иЕва,И еще,перестаньте меня оскорблять!Это говорит о вашей низкой культуре общения!нельзя же так себя вести,это некрасиво!И еще один вопрос-за что так ненавидите Ф.Ж?Ваш бы яд в медицину,хоть польза была бы!
@kosoglazaya1 Dorogusha, eto ne ya napisala, a vy:"когда поет Ф.Ж.мир изменяется вокруг-птицы поют тише,ветер затихает в листве,капля росы останавливается в немом падении.Боль,гнев,счастье,любовь-все вспыхивает в моем сердце одновременно!И остается только его голос-голос серебристого ангела.Огромные блестящие крылья поднимаются высоко над его головой." Dumaete,pisat' takoi bred -eto vysokaya kul'tura obsheniya?Ya vas ne oskorblyayu,a dayu druzheskii sovet,chto-to s obsession nado chto-to delat'
@serenaluce Вы завидуете, что кто-то любит Ф.Ж.так сильно,что посвящает ему такие восторженные слова,а вам , наверное, уже давно никто так не говорил,конечно,обидно!
@kosoglazaya1 Dorogusha,vy sravnivaete nesopostavimye veshi! Ya - ne pevitsa, chtoby mne, tem bolee na video drugikh pevtvov, kakie-to vostorzhennye slova pisali! LOL A kto mne v real'noi zhizni chto govorit - vy etogo ne znaete,a spekulirovat' mozhno ot zlosti chto ugodno! Ya voobshe-to ne obdelena muzhskim vnimaniem,chtoby vot tak kak vy prosto fanaret' ot kakoi-to plyushego mishki, poyushego slaben'kim fal'tsetikom.Mne slava bogu nikto ne govorit,chto u menya vyrosli serebryanye kryl'ya! LOL
когда поет Ф.Ж.мир изменяется вокруг-птицы поют тише,ветер затихает в листве,капля росы останавливается в немом падении.Боль,гнев,счастье,любовь-все вспыхивает в моем сердце одновременно!И остается только его голос-голос серебристого ангела.Огромные блестящие крылья поднимаются высоко над его головой.И летит в небо эта удивительная ария -лаша кье пьянга..Невозможно описать ,пережить!душа страдает вместе с Фаринелли!Филипп Жарусски-вы волшебник!
@kosoglazaya1 Да у Вас просто мания под названием "Жарусски". Много я читала восторженных отзывов о нем, но такой бред впервые слышу. Пишите это лучше к себе в дневник, не смешите народ на Youtube. И прежде, чем писать, научитесь сначала грамоте.
@lara777ize Не переживайте,777,вам уже не грозит никакая мания,вы уже не сможете пережить заново все то ,что я переживаю сейчас ,слушая его волшебный голос.Возможно,когда-нибудь,внутри вашей души ,что-то и шевельнется,хотя,вряд ли А насчет грамоты, спасибо,только я не знаю,где я написала неправильно?Но ведь это нестрашно,главное,какие чувства вызывает во мне пение серебристого ангела!да,не спорю,вы в музыке разбираетесь больше,но вот это ваша беда.
@kosoglazaya1 То, что я в музыке разбираюсь больше - благо, а не беда. Таким образом я могу "отделять зерна от плевел", если Вы понимаете, о чем я говорю. А о моей душе можете не беспокоиться, все, что нужно, в ней шевелится, только не под сладкоголосые напевы этого гея, а под великую музыку Моцарта, Баха, Гайдна и многих, многих других. Я не могу сдержать слез, когда слушаю Паваротти в "Тоске" или Мирошниченко в "Лючии ди Ламмермур". А если такая музыка для Вас слишком .....
@lara777izeДорогая три семерки! я очень рада,что я в музыке не профессионал,а то бы сидела вот так за компом и обсирала всех кто не любит ваших кумиров.а так,я слышу только чистое пение и эмоции,которые вызывает у меня тот или иной певец.Возможно ,когда-нибудь, мои вкусы в музыке изменятся,а пока я наслаждаюсь пением моего любимого. неподражаемого.удивительного серебристого ангела.В мире столько контр-теноров,а мне нравится только его голос.И я буду писать,а смеяться или нет-это ваше право"!
@kosoglazaya1...серьезна, то и в барокко есть великое множество замечательной музыки и не менее замечательных исполнителей, в том числе и контратеноров, куда более достойных, чем Жарусски. Огромной своей популярностью он обязан грамотной рекламе, а также тому, что слушают его , в основном, люди весьма далекие от оперы в целом, и от барокко в частности, и не умеющие оценить ни качество вокала, ни технику исполнения, ни грамотность интерпретации.
Is SERENLUCE someone who envies Philippe Jaroussky??????? It's too bad that she's/he's on every Jaroussky site trying to convince everyone that he is just a pop singer. I also happen to think he's outstanding.
@MIMIFORSAGE Dear, what is it to do with envy? Before writing this nonsense please check my channel! How come I don't ENVY real great COUNTERTENORS with full and round voices, all 3 well-developed registers, with deep LOW notes which this pop falsettist PJ doesn't have at all singing only on HIGH notes?! How come I don't envy Cencic,Lemos,White, Taylor, Lesne, Merna, Scholl,Daniels,Bowman, Esswood,Kowalski, Chance, many,even those whom I dislike but respect as true CTs e.g. Deller and Oberline?
@serenaluceАх сирена!вы знаете так много певцов,вы знаете кто как поет-хорошо или плохо,тихо или громко,у вас есть все,кроме любви"!мне вас жаль!человек без любви пуст,как пустая бочка.Она так громко гремит! .и,чтобы вы не писали о Ф.Ж..,для меня он самый лучший контр-тенор.
@kosoglazaya1 Dorogusha,da chto vy -u menya stol'ko lyubvi, khot' otbavlyai! I k moemu zamechatel'nomu muzhu,i k nastoyashim artistam, kotorymi ya umeyu voskhishat'sya bez idolopoklonstva kak vy,t.k. u menya s golovoi vse v poryadke, i obsession ya ne stradayu.I pop ya tozhe lyublyu,tol'ko takikh aferistov kak PJ prezirayu, t.k. on delaet den'gi na lyudskom nevezhestve.A u vas prosto krysha s'ekhala.Naslazhdaites' ego peniem,tol'ko ostav'te v pokoe Farinelli, kotoryi ne pel etu ZHENSKUYU ariyu!
@serenaluce Ну, женские арии Фаринелли все же пел на заре своей певческой карьеры, будучи совсем юным, а вот Генделя он точно никогда не пел. И я недоумеваю, почему авторы фильма допускают такие грубые ошибки, как исполнение Фаринелли двух ролей в одной опере. В надежде, что зрители ничего не поймут?
@lara777ize Voobshe-to Farinelli pel Handel, i oni vstrechalis' v Londona. Kazhetsya, kak raz v Rinaldo i pel Rinaldo. Tak eto zhe film, pop product, dopuskayushii istoricheskie netochnosti. Chto Farinelli kak-budto by pel etu ariyu Almireny - eto tol'ko effektnyi priem, chtoby pokazat' stsenu kastratsii, i kak on oplakivaet svoyu sub'du. Nel'zya zhe verit' e.g. Dumas, chto 3 mushketera ezdili v London, chtoby dobyt' podveski...No interesnoe chtivo!:-)Da bol'shinstvo tam nichego i ne ponyalo;-)
@serenaluce Я настаиваю на том, что Фаринелли никогда не пел Генделя. И насколько мне известно, именно в Лондоне Фаринелли оказался втянутым в противостояние между Генделем и Порпорой, разумеется, на стороне Порпоры. А Ринальдо он петь просто не мог по двум причинам, во-первых, Гендель не любил вокал Фаринелли, и никогда с ним не сотрудничал, а писал, в основном для Сенезино, а во-вторых, партия Ринальдо предназначена для альта, а Фаринелли был сопрано.
@lara777ize Eto imeet smysl,chto vy govorite,tol'ko Handel mog perepisat' partituru dlya drugogo golosa,kotoryi u nego byl v nalichie, kak i Vivaldi naprimer.A voobshe, zhizn' geniev oveyana legendami.Ya vot chitala, chto oni vstrechalis' i sotrudnichali, i takoi nenavisti, kak v fil'me, Handel ne ispytyval. Drugie pishut, chto ne vtrechalis'. Komu verit'?A voobshe, oni mogli muzhskuyu partiyu napisat' dlya baby tol'ko potomu, chto ona byla ch'ei-to lyubovnitsei...No uzh PJ tochno ne AlmirenaLOL
@serenaluce В фильме просто создана интрига для большего интереса. Никакой вражды между Генделем и Фаринелли не было, и некоторые источники говорят о том, что Гендель действительно восторга в отношении Фаринелли не испытывал. Стал бы он приглашать его в свою оперу, да еще и переписывать для него арии? Фаринелли пел в основном Порпору, Броски, Хассе, Винчи, ну и еще не помню кого.
@lara777ize A kto znaet?Farinelli byl v mode. Na Handel mogli tozhe nadavit'.U nego byli postoyannye finansovye problemy. O tom zhe Handel pishut, chto o nem malo kto voobshe znal, i chto skoree vsego on byl gay.A ya chitala, chto odna zhenshina zakrichala:"Odin bog, odin Farinelli" imenno, kogda on pel Handel.A chto seichas vse reshaet odin vkus?Da vse i zanimayutsya prostitutsiei,t.k. PJ delaet bol'she vsekh deneg na lyudskom nevezhestve,i vse khotyat s nim urvat' dlya sebya.PJ -Farinelli!LOL
@serenaluce "Фаринелли - бог" , говорили о нем в Лондоне, после того, как он спел (как раз в противовес Генделю) в опере Хассе "Артаксеркс", куда включил сложнейшие арии Броски.
@lara777ize Spasibo za informatsiyu. Vot eto diskussiya na YT, kotoraya mozhet i prosvyatit' i dukhovno obogatit', a takzhe zastravit' dumat' i chitat' eshe bol'she v kakom-to opredelennom napravlenii. A vot etot bred, chto PJ - nastoyashii countertenor, kotoryi mozhet pet' barokko, potomu chto u nego na spine serebristye krylyshki vyrosli, i rosa zamerzaet na letu, eto izvinite, ne diskussiya, a material dlya psykhiatrov, pochemu lyudi ot peniya s uma skhodyat,i kak s etim borot'sya! LOL
@serenaluce Относительно серебряных крыльев я там уже написала, добавить мне нечего, истерия какая-то. Поковырявшись на форумах, я много видела там подобных экзальтированных дамочек, но это уже перебор. Что поделаешь, падки наши дамы на ангельские голоса и смазливые физиономии. Тут вчера смотрела концерт тенора и баритона. Слушать, в общем, было нечего, просто было любопытно. Так Вы не поверите, в зале - одни дамы, и на весьма посредственное исполнение - шквал аплодисментов.
@lara777ize Nu da,ya nemnogo mogu ponyat',chto lyudi sluchaino otkryli dlya sebya kontrtenora, kogda mnogie dazhe ne znayut, chto muzhchiny mogut tak pet', i eto ikh mir perevorachivaet, chto kazhetsya kakoe-to vremya, chto trava zelenee i nebo golubee,tol'ko zachem ob etom na YT pisat' v kachestve muzykal'nykh argumentov?:-) A takzhe, chto zamuzh khotyat za pevtsa!LOL Da,a u russkikh damochek osobyi idiotizm, t.k. oni gordyatsya ne talantom, a chto oni tozhe "Ja roussky".Tak na shit i shkval:)
я так счастлива ,что в мою жизнь вошел серебристый ангел!я так его теперь называю.Его голос звучит всегда вокруг меня,я слышу его в капле дождя,в шелесте ветра,в звездном небе.В его голосе нет осуждения,ненависти,зла-в этом голосе только одна любовь!тысячу раз спасибо!!!!!!!!!!!
когда я услышала эту арию впервые. когда спел филипп жарусски,я думала я умерла и когда он закончил петь.я родилась снова.но уже другим человеком. Как это возможно?Всего за пять минут арии он перевернул всю мою жизнь и теперь я не могу жить по старому.Он изменил не только мои пристрастия в музыке ,он открыл мне другой мир!,
@djmethal obvio que es mejor la de farinelli, si esque te refieres al de la pelicula, por que es una adaptacion de la voz de una soprano, Ewa Mallas y un contratenor Derek Lee, para intentar acercarse a la maravilllosa gran voz que fue la de Carlos Broschi (farinelli).
I don't even think this is his best..I think he could do even better. That's not a criticism. He's in a different place..I'd bet he's transported the audience with him. I believe his body could translate the words as a conversation with a dear friend. Especially his hands. This mans phrasing is wonderful...go further with volume and movements of desperation. How would a body move in real life with this pain? I think he has the potential to sing this aria better then it's ever been done.
@cugir321 You just forgot to say that you admire PJ as a pop singer.Any good pop singer transports his audience especially with a help of a mighty microphone in a big venue with big orchestras with him or her.But it has nothing to do with true BAROQUE and Handel!A real CT or any OPERA singer at all is supposed to sing not with his HANDS,soft manicured FINGERS or TOES like PJ in some videos but with VOICE to express HUMAN emotions according to the IMAGE! It's a WOMAN's aria!What potential forMAN?
Philippe does a wonderful baroque (historically correct) interpretation here. I used to be a countertenor myself, until the fateful "accident" that deprived me of my tool forever. I can't do anything but cry when he gives me back what I have lost with his rich voice, no matter what setting in which he does it. SING PHILIPPE, SING. For all of us. Thank you for his. Mille mercis.
@SeanOsborneII So, if because of your "accident" YOU lost YOUR tool forever is no proof at all that this POP falsettist Philippe Jaroussky is a countertenor and especially that he "does a wonderful baroque interpretation here"! What you wrote is just NON SEGUITUR! These 2 things are not connected, and it's not a proof of PJ's greatness! If you are so sensitive about your personal tragidy ANY piece about "Let me cry over my cruel fate" will make YOU cry! No matter if it's baroque or PURE POP!!!
@pahduarte What problems do I have? I'm happily married. And my husband is a manly man. What can a therapist do? Make PJ honest that he is not a real CT but just a pop falsettist? What is it to do with happiness? I like many pop singers, I like e.g. Russian pop singer Philipp Kirkorov who sings in falsetto for fun in a costume a la Farinelli but he doesn't claim it true baroque, so I enjoy it. I like Klaus Nomi with painted nails singing like a woman in falsetto as long a nobody calls him CT!
@pahduarte I guess that it has nothing to do with this, I mean affective problems or any other. You may like him, she may not. That's it. @serenaluce can comment anything she wants as long as she doesn't offend anyone, so, stop it! If you like Jaroussky, go on, like him, I DO like him too, she does not, so what? Stop arguing.
@SeanOsborneIIДОРОГОЙ,ВЫ НЕ ПОТЕРЯЛИ СВОЙ ГОЛОС!ЭТО НЕВОЗМОЖНО!ВАШ ГОЛОС ЖИВЕТ ВНУТРИ ВАС ,ВЫ ЕГО СЛЫШИТЕ И НЕ ВАЖНО,ЧТО ГОВОРЯТ ДРУГИЕ.ВЫ ТО ЗНАЕТЕ,ЧТО У ВАС ЕСТЬ КРАСИВЕЙШИЙ ГОЛОС ВО ВСЕМ МИРЕ.А ФИЛИПП ЖАРУССКИ ПОМОГАЕТ ВАМ НЕ ЗАБЫТЬ ВАШ ГОЛОС.С УВАЖЕНИЕМ
It would be nice if not too many people waste their precious life time with reading the inane comments of some people who write pages and pages here attacking PhJ, obviously because they are not completely sane. I am sure you, dear reader, have much better things to do!
Impresionante! Sin lugar a dudas, philippe se destaca por su melodiosa voz el colorido de sus agudos, la versatilidad de su garganta al mantener una nota y variarla con un extraordinario virtuosismo,pero el nivel de interpretacion la pasion y la entrega que le ofrece a la pieza la cual canta con tanto dominio seran rasgos notorios por los cuales sera recordado.
Il y a beaucoup de très bons contre ténors mais PJ a une sensibilité très particulière qui lui permet d'exceller dans le Barroque et qu'il retransmet dans ses interprétations. Je ne me lasse jamais de l'écouter. Une des meilleures interprétations de Lascia Chio Pianga!
Counter tenors always seem to be tall.. wonderful voice, those who think it's manufactured - fuck off and give your own voice a seeing to, try to do this yourself and then critisize...
This is outdoors and live. PJ does a magnificent job.
And even if you think he is too much of a popstar: remember the guy has to make a living of his singing. That requires some selling of yourself, hence the public appearances in tv shows and all the interviews. One needs exposure to sell records. That does not affect his vocal abilities in any way, it does in no manner diminish being a serious classical artist at the same time. Those who do feel that way are simply snobby elitists.
@carolineleiden Sorry again, but we are not SNOBBY ELITISTS! Any artist needs expesure to sell records and make enough to live on it and their performances. But any artist should be HONEST how he makes MONEY and what kind of ART they claim they do! Classics in POP INTERPRETATIONS has always existed, but it should be MENTIONED on the COVER OF RECORDINGS and in DESCRIPTION on YT, in CONCERTS that it's A POP SINGER performing e.g. here baroque.Otherwise it's only making MONEY on people's IGNORANCE!
You mean like one of those yellow stickers you also find on prescription medication like valium, that warns you not to drive or drink alcohol with this product? *grin* "This is not oldschool baroque: kids, do not try this at home".
@carolineleiden Exactly! I appreciate your sense of humour! LOL The only correction it that if kids like this non-oldschool baroque they still can try it at home and enjoy,but not to tell those who can tell real product from its cheap immitation that it's TRUE not to make fools of themselves!LOL Your comment reminded me one hair coloring product of long ago when they still used TABLETS to mix with developing cream.I thought it was obvious,but for IDIOTS it was specified:"Please don't SWALLOW!LOL
Nowadays, nobody buys an album just for the cover or the name of the composer. There is Youtube where you can check it out first, and on Amazon they also have small fragments to listen to before you buy.
I still do not agree with you when it comes to put him in the pop section of the recordshops. His voice has a different timbre than most others, but his technique really is good and his musicality is undeniable. He also does not change one single note of the music.
@serenaluce I agree he has a rockstar status, he is famous, the crowd loves him. But that does not label the music as pop. The music is original, on contemporary instruments, no rythms added or sound effects. He is no David Garrett. The voice line is also exactly as it was written. If anyone is oldschool in his approach, it is PJ. But his voice just sounds different than most. Can't help that. Not everyone may like it. But that does not mean he can't sing or that he is a pop artist..
@carolineleiden Wrong, nowadays people buy only what is PROMOTED and esplained to them that it's GREAT.Come to any supermarket and see the section:"Great movies" or "Great music". They can sell absolute TRASH there, but as it's ADVERTISED people say it's GREAT! PJ is OVERPROMOTED and it's FASHIONABLE to talk about him and be part of a big crowd! It's much more difficult to think their OWN head and compare! Nowadays people LOST this ability!If e.g. they are told AVATAR is great, nobody challeges!
@carolineleiden Wrong again. The biggest crowds in the world are attracted by primitive POP, ROCK, HEAVY METALL singers! REAL opera singers can't compete with any e.g. Lady Gaga! You are WRONG! The voice line is exactly WRITTEN for a WOMAN, NOT a man! It's Almirena's aria from Rinaldo! In Farinelli, il Castrato it was used as EFFECTIVE MOVE, and this film is overall also POP which means POPULAR! Real Farinelli sang Cara Sposa, and couldn't sing a DUET with himself as ALMIRENA:"Scherzano sul..."!
If people are stupid and placid, it is because of their own ignorance. With the internet at hand, everybody can do more research and increase their knowledge at the click of a mouse.
The ones that choose not to, don't deserve any better. They're probably extremely happy with it it as well.
I think it is allright for a man to sing a womans part, and vice versa too. If you can make the highs and lows, by all means, knock yourself out and do if you like the part. I do Cara Sposa.
@carolineleiden Of course, nothing's so BAD if a man sings a woman's aria, and vice versa! It's not the end of the world!:-) You can sing Cara Sposa too as a woman, but mind if it's taken separately from Handel's OPERA Rinaldo where the MALE character of Rinaldo sings also e.g. Venti turbini, but doesn't present as transvestite show where he plays MALE and then FEMALE part of Almirena, it just becomes POP like a POP SONG! PJ even can't sing it close to castrati as they had HUGE RANGE in singing!
I do Venti turbini too. (DIFFICULT!!!) All the castrates parts used to be sung by mezzo and alto females for the past two centuries, for lack f men to sing them, and they sang female parts too. If there is nothing wrong with that, than a man can do the female and male partts, as long as his voice can do it. That does not turn it into a cage au folles, I believe.
This particular voice has in fact graduated cum laude at the conservatory, so I would not describe that as a POP voice.
@carolineleiden Friend, wrong again, sorry:-).Philippe Jaroussky graduated from Sorbonne I'm not sure cum laude or not, but let it even be cum laude:-) not as a VOICE, but playing on a DIFFIRENT musical instrument - VIOLINE! It doesn't automatically make him a SINGER! If somebody graduates from a PEDAGOGICAL college as a chemistry teacher doesn't make them a GREAT music teacher!LOL Also,as subject for discussion: if WOMEN still sing castrati roles why MEN can't sing WOMEN e.g. in verismo operas?
Some people should just shut the fuck up and learn to enjoy good music when they can. This is Händel. What else do you want ? A perfect singer doesn't exist. However, singers who try their best to express themselves with beautiful music do exist. And they can make you remember that music is made of emotions. Thanks PJ.
@Sednareinedeseaux Some people like you should enjoy their POP music for which great Handel was sacrificied by your precious PJ and ignore other comments if they don't understand what they are about and not to show their ignorance! It's not about being a PERFECT singer. Voices can't be perfect as they belong to REAL people, and NOBODY is perfect, but pop singers should remain in their pop category as they don't have PROPER TECHNINQUE and not be presented as true CTs. Where's any EMOTION here?!
@serenaluce In fact, I dislike pop music. I think PJ has a beautiful voice, and all the technique he needs to show emotions (yes, I'm still saying that, and I won't change my mind). I understand that some other singers are much more experienced and I KNOW nobody can have a perfect voice, thank you very much, I myself never spend a day without practicing. But it doesn't change the fact that I like him and that your comments about "truly great artists", "cheating" and such really annoy me.
@Sednareinedeseaux I see that we are just speaking different languages. In fact I like pop music. Nobody can like just one genre and ignore others which all have a merit. Also, what PJ sings has a merit too and people can like it too, no problem with it. But it should be presented in the RIGHT way, what it really is "classics in modern interpretation" and not serious operatic stuff.Not only Michael Jackson is a pop singer:).PJ is too who sings classics in pop manner and is compared with CTs here
@Sednareinedeseaux It has nothing to do with your or PJ's practising every day.Pop singers also practise every day and can share more emotions in a true pop manner which doesn't require operatic technique, big voice,breath control of a classically trained opera singer.Hope you won't say that to be an opera singer is easier than just to sing pop?PJ is a pop singer as he just superficially touches his vocal cords without any depth of interpretation and expressing the image.It's emotional to you...
@serenaluce Well that may be true since I'm French ;) Seems like I completely misunderstood what you were talking about then. Sorry for that. But I'm so tired of people always criticizing everything that I reacted without thinking. And you're right about becoming an opera singer being a lot more difficult than singing pop. Still I don't think PJ steals anything from "true" opera singers by singing himself (I'm still uncomfortable with your terms, in my opinion there's nothing like that).
There is people who even with all the amplification, chorus, reverb and autotune of the universe would never EVER sing like this... serenaluce and all the others. are you examples of these?
@SeKaBroN Buddy, you don't understand at all our discussion. My argument was not about that PJ can't EVER sing like this or that and that he shouldn't sing like he sings or people can't enjoy his singing but that he is a POP singer using falsetto and not a real CT, who performs baroque and other supposedly serious classical stuff in a very superficial, POP manner, only giving an IMPRESSION of baroque without any DEPTH and proper technique and also CHEATS with a hiddent mike unlike e.g. CENCIC!
@SeKaBroN Amplification in supposedly true operatic stuff is UNACCEPTABLE and you just agreed that PJ uses it, and you express that you don't care how it's done, but if a singer does so it only proves that he or she is a true POP singer, and any decent, honest POP SINGER should just work in the PROPER category and not CHEAT to have an advangate against TRULY GREAT artists. What is it to do with serenaluce's or other's own singing?! Use your brains. Are you a ballet dancer?You can't comment it?
@serenaluce Well it's precisely because I use my brain that I don't comment about things I don't do. People who pass all the day being a couch potato can't comment about anything. It would be silly that I commented on ballet. All critics' heads work the same way.
@SeKaBroN So why don't you use your brains not to comment about things you don't understand either like "amplification, chorus, reverb and autotune of the universe..." and also if somewhat serenaluce and "all the others" (who?) are examples of something and if they can EVER or NEVER sing like this? If you don't understand such stuff, can't compare with other true CTs why comment?All PROFESSIONAL critics' heads work the same way as it's their JOB, but fans CAN comment on anything, ballet as well
@SeKaBroN Don't worry Jaroussky is NOT amplified more or less than any other CTs out there and he certainly doesn't use ''hidden microphones to cheat people''. I've heard PJ, Cencic and Scholl in person and while none of them was amplified, it was PJ who was better heard in the hall. And ramblings about PJ's supposed amplification on here come from people who have never heard him in person....
His singing style is more like pop? Well that's fitting -- a lot of baroque opera was written for the castrati who were worshipped like the rock stars of their era. Many people attended operas to swoon and be wowed by vocal fireworks. Arias during that period were often written to show off the castrati's vocal skills. Opera was a different animal 100 years later.
A male singing in falsetto should be able to amplify as well as any female soprano or contralto -- in opera, women always singing in falsetto, i.e., their "head voice."
@arpeggio,@serenaluce,@PhillipLWicher, all of you have raised the cover of these cheap tricks. But these tricks bring attention and money to the finer Arts. No these performers won't be remembered only True Greats are. They simply bring in much needed money to continue training great artists.
Lascia ch'io pianga mia cruda sorte, (Let me weep my cruel fate) e che sospiri la libertà. (and let me sigh for liberty). Il duolo infranga queste ritorte (May sorrow break these chains) de' miei martiri sol per pietà. (of my suffering, for pity’s sake). Дай мне слезами выплакать горе и о свободе дай пожалеть Хоть на мгновенье дай ты утихнуть жгучим страданьям моей души
I googled lascia chio pianga and came across Phillippe Jaroussky by accident. really appreciate him and everything he does, I am a female singer metzo sopprano, and I relate to his voice and the balance he has between the male and female voice which is open to all of us.
It is one of the most perfectly measured Arias music will ever know.
Philippe Jaroussky falters not once. His sense of pitch and his phrasing is as poised as his voice is pure. Both he and the orchestra are completely centred in every possible way. What an absolute blessing it has been listening to this.
@PhillipLWilcher You've got to be kidding. PJ is flat, emotionless, and really a pop performer to boot. He sings in a pop style. He can't even sing without a microphone. No respectable opera or classical singer would use a microphone.
@arpeggio1358 I kid you not. After having just read your reply to me, for which I thank you sincerely, I have listened to this performance with a more concentrated hearing than before.
On the question of his pitch I stand by my earlier comment. He is centred. As for the emotion he brings to this aria, it seems to me well measured and aligned overall, understated and elegant. The concert appears to be open air, in a vast arena. I doubt any singer, opera or otherwise, would not use a microphone.
@PhillipLWilcher Look at all of PJ's videos. He always uses a microphone, even in small venues. There is even a live opera performance on YouTube in which one can clearly tell that he he is amplified, though the microphone is well hidden. I'm sorry, but with all due respect, I'm never going to like PJ's pop style of singing. We'll just have to disagree.
@PhillipLWilcher Dear Phillip, you know what I greatly respect you and appreciate very much your beautiful music but I have to disagree with you and agree with arpeggio. And it's not because I want to degrade competitors and promote Spanos like primitive people accuse me. I'm only his and many other REAL CTs' fan and not a paid promoter for PJ who use all dishonest means to make money on him. Yes, on open air everybody uses a mike but they all should be emplified in the same way....
@PhillipLWilcher If you watched enough of PJ's videos you could notice that when he sings with real opera singers no matter with another CT or a real classically trained female singer with proper technique, though he has a weak, pigeon chest, no lung capacity at all to perform castrati repertoire which is tough phisical stuff, strenious vocal acrobatic which only strong enough men can do properly... this sexless, anorexic creature always sounds LOUDER of at least not quieter? How is it possible?
@PhillipLWilcher His fooled brainwashed by promotional machine fans write that they heard him live e.g. with Cencic, Scholl and he sounds LOUDER than them! I'm sorry to contradict you, you can like PJ's sweet isolated, all emotionally detached trills (I wonder where is any PAIN and SUFFERING in this aria rendeded by PJ?!) but still you should mention that you like him as a POP SINGER, not classical CT. There's no HONEST way that PJ with his FLAT VOICE, grazing superficially by the surface...
@PhillipLWilcher ..without any proper technique, just a cheap POP FALSETTIST (men where not castrated at baroque time to produce just HIGH NOTES, they were physically strong with wide chest to sound ANGELICALLY but express all range of HUMAN emotions to move the heart and not just please by sweet HIGH notes without LOWER REGISTER at all!) can sound LOUDER than great CENCIC with all 3 well develloped registers, classical technique, great breath control. It's only because PJ uses HIDDEN MICROPHONE
@serenaluce Where would you place Pavarotti, Domingo and even Kathleen Battle singing Over The Rainbow with a hand microphone? My tastes as a musician are perhaps more liberal. I recognise creativity as coming from the same source despite genre and in a world such as the one in which we live today, it warms my heart to think that against such a backdrop of natural disasters and political violence, the likes of which we have never seen more devastating, creativity still has its place.
@PhillipLWilcher Creativity definitely has a place, but I don't see PJ as creative. He uses tricks to fool his fans and that has no place in the world of opera and classical music in general. It's a cheap pop singer trick. Pavarotti, Domingo, and Carreras used mics in their Three Tenors Concerts (not great music but maybe there were people who were inspired to investigate live opera) because they were in large outdoor venues with poor acoustics. They never used mics in live opera performances.
@PhillipLWilcher I'm sorry if I didn't make my point crystall clear: I'm not absolutely against using microphones. In open air performances, in big venues, with poor acoustics, in some kind of recording situations it's NECESSARY! But all the participants should have the same kind of mike and should be emplified in THE SAME WAY. But PJ uses a HIDDEN MIKE even in live OPERA performances as a means of COMPETITION to have an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE over other true singers like GREAT CENCIC who has VOICE!!!
@PhillipLWilcher ...Otherwise it's the same FRAUD like in sports when all the rest of the field can be strong, fit athletes, physically more expected to win but they are honest and don't use enhancement drugs but there's one weak and unfit who takes a DOPING and WINS! And all the people don't know the reason and applaud him, make him a hero, worship him only because he CHEATS!.. Pavarotti and Domingo are real opera singers with proper technique, depth but Bocelli doesn't have even BREATH CONTROL
@PhillipLWilcher My tastes in music are liberal too. But I'm against dishonesty just to serve the MARKET. It's not the end of the world that somebody presents classics in a pop manner. It's always been and it'll always be. I'm also for CREATIVITY! If PJ presented his singing as "Classics in modern interpretation" as what it really is we could talk about his creativity but here it's NOT! Well, of course, if we talk NATURAL DISASTER, VIOLENCE PJ is a pure ANGEL then but he is still pure POP SINGER
@serenaluce I seem to have found myself caught in some competitive spirit here of which I would rather not be a part . I am a composer who competes with no one other than myself. For myself, I believe there is no great virtue in claiming victory over another - the greater virtue lies in claiming victory over one's self. I also believe there are better ways of saying things and that any criticism should either equal or better the thing being criticised if criticism is ever to achieve the ideal.
@PhillipLWilcher Again, I tried to explain that there's no competitive spirit from me to degrade my favourites' main competitor. It's your right to end any discussion. I appreciate very much your music and believe that you compete only with yourself and the greatest victory is really over oneself. But in showbusiness not everybody is so honest. I wonder why e.g. Brightman, Jenkins, Church, Bocelli, Watson, etc. can be criticized and many people point out they are POP SINGERS. PJ is UNTOUCHABLE?
@serenaluce For whatever PJ's perceived or considered faults, he may well have opened a door to an audience and introduced people to a genre that otherwise might never have been made known to them and in this time called life, where way leads on to way, that public might then come to appreciate even further what wonders there are in classical music at its most pure. Blessings and best.....but I'd rather not engage further in such discussions, thank you.
@PhillipLWilcher Absolutely true. Couldn't agree more with you here: PJ really has opened a door to a difference audience and introduced more people to a genre that otherwise might never have been made known to them in their lifetime. But what he really sings is NOT real BAROQUE but superficial pop impressions of it and should be presented in the right section of any music store "Classics in modern interpretations" and not like "we should kneel before PJ for revival of TRUE BAROQUE"! It's FRAUD!
@serenaluce I don't think PJ's fans will ever realize just how much of a big bunch of hype he is. He's a fake. Using a hidden mic is pretty awful. He's not fooling people with decent ears though. In a live opera performance on YT it's very easy to tell that he's being amplified. One can't tell where the mic is hidden, but it's obvious that it's there. I prefer to listen to singers who are honest.
@arpeggio1358 It's my point too. There's no way he can sound louder than true opera singers in the same event who have proper classical technique, great breath control no matter if the say in their natural voice or using falsetto like Cencic who has a CHEST, uses his DIAPHRAGM, has smooth, velvet low notes. People with decent ears should use LOGIC to detect the trick and not just to declare PJ a genius who can sing louder without opera technique. Veronique Jens would blow him away with her voice
@serenaluce We're absolutely agreed that PJ is always amplified, even if the source of amplification isn't obvious. He really is being dishonest when he does this. Opera/classical singers should always be able to be heard without amplification. I'm sadly afraid that he will go on making tons of money and playing to adoring fans. The fans really don't understand that what they're getting is fake.
the level of dificulty to sing these things is so hard..he's very good,the air control is perfect...whom dont percept this dont know nothing about opera
jdarkhell1 1 week ago
troppo sopravvalutato....
OthelloSimone 1 week ago
ДЕВОЧКИ!ПЕРЕСТАНЬТЕ ССОРИТЬСЯ.А ДЛЯ ЧЕГО НУЖНЫ ПЕВЦЫ И ПЕНИЕ ВООБЩЕ?НУ ГОВОРИЛИ БЫ СЕБЕ ЛЮДИ И ЗАЧЕМ ОНИ ПОЮТ?ВОТ ИМЕННО.ЧТОБЫ УЙТИ ОТ РЕАЛЬНОСТИ,ПОТОМУ ЧТО ТАМ,ВНУТРИ ЭТОГО ГОЛОСА,КАЖДЫЙ ВИДИТ ТОЛЬКО ТО ,ЧТО ОН ХОЧЕТ,ЧЕГО В РЕАЛЕ НЕ БЫВАЕТ.И У КАЖДОГО СВОЙ ПЕВЕЦ.СЛАВА БОГУ ИХ МНОГО И ОНИ ВСЕ РАЗНЫЕ.
kosoglazaya1 2 weeks ago
@kosoglazaya1 Да кто же здесь ссорится? Всего лишь обмен мнениями.
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@kosoglazaya1 Da,nu ya vas pozdravlyayu:vy schitaete, chto ya, nazyvaya veshi svoimi imenami, t.e. kommentiruya tol'ko to, chto artist delaet na stsene, i chto Philippe Jaroussky ne nastoyashii kontrtenor, a deshevaya poddelka na nego v pop stile, nesu polnuyu chuch'. Tak vot, vy svoim polnym bredom naschet togo, chto u nego na spine vyroli serebryanye kryl'ya sumeli dostat' dazhe "dear Janochka", madam JaRoWie, kotoraya obozhaet vsekh, kto emu zadnitsu tseluet! Eto velichaishee dostizhenie!LOL
serenaluce 1 week ago
@serenaluceНу мадам Яна взрослый человек, сама разберется кто по настоящему любит ф.ж,про вас я вообще молчу-у вас воспаление мозга-это очень серьезно!И скажу я вам -я буду слушать то что я хочу ,когда хочу и для меня существует серебристый ангел с его волшебными крыльями,хотя такие как вы любые крылья обломаете!Но ,к счастью,сейчас я уже переросла первый щенячий восторг голосом Ф.Ж.и перешла на другой уровень. С любовью.
kosoglazaya1 1 week ago
@kosoglazaya1 Interesno, a kak eto vy opredelili, chto u MENYA vospolenie mozga,a ne u VAS?LOL Ne khotite vnimat' druzheskomu sovetu,delo vashe. I vy po idee dolzhny byt' vzroslym chelovekom i ponimat', chto eto tol'ko obmen mneniyami na YT.Mne na vashego PJ gluboko naplevat',tol'ko ya emu lichno nikogda nichego plokhogo ne zhelala,i nikomu kryl'ya ne oblamyvayut, tem bolee tem, u kogo ikh prosto net! LOL Da net, ne pererosli vy eshe shenyachii vostorg, esli s kryl'yami nikak ne ugomonites'!LOL
serenaluce 1 week ago
аЙ.аЙ !ТАК УЖ И ГЕНИЙ?!ХОТЯ НЕ СПОРЮ,ВАМ ВИДНЕЕ.зВУКИ НЕ МОГУТ БЫТЬ НИ СЛАДКИМИ ,НИКАКИМИ.ЭТО ПРОСТО КТО КАК СЛЫШИТ.Я У Ф.Ж. НЕ СЛЫШАЛА НИ ОДНОЙ СЛАДКОЙ НОТЫ,ТОЛЬКО БОЛЬ,СТРАДАНИЕ,ПЕЧАЛЬ,ГНЕВ,ОСОБЕННО В ЭТОЙ АРИИ.НАОБОРОТ,ЕГО ПЕНИЕ НАСТРАИВАЕТ МЕНЯ НА САМОАНАЛИЗ,НА ОСМЫСЛЕНИЕ МОЕЙ ЖИЗНИ.ЭТО ТАК ЗДОРОВО,ЧТО Я МОГУ СПРЯТАТЬСЯ ОТ РЕАЛЬНОЙ ЖИЗНИ В ЭТОМ ВОЛШЕБНОМ ГОЛОСЕ СЕРЕБРИСТОГО АНГЕЛА.С УВАЖЕНИЕМ
kosoglazaya1 2 weeks ago
@kosoglazaya1 A mozhno i ne perekhodit' na vse zaglavnye bukvy! Vot s etogo i nado nachinat', chto vy prosto khotite spryatat'sya or real'noi zhizni v pustykh i sladkikh zvukakh etogo mal'chika-zaichika "Young-for-ever", kotoryi tol'ko delaet trogatel'nye "nevinnye" lichiki i pritvoryaetsya etakim angelochkom, chto k nastoyashei opere nikakogo otnosheniya ne imeet. Vy prosto khotite, chtoby vas kormili sladkoi lozh'yu! Vam samoanalizom SEBYA nado zanyat'sya, chego vam v zhizni ne khvataet...
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
Опять не понятый "великий" Spanos...
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize A ya ne tol'ko Spanosa imeyu v vidu,a voobshe geniev.Tol'ko vopros v tom, kto i kogo schitaet geniem. Vot lyudi s uma skhodyat ot etogo deshevogo pop parodista na barokko PJ i nazyvayut EGO geniem:-) Esli vy ne znali, to genii - eto ekraordinarny talant. Skol'ko lyudei, stol'ko i mnenii. A mne vot naprimer ot golosa Caruso ni kholodno, ni zharko, a on "genii i legenda".Esli VAM Spanos ne ponyaten, to ego fans on ochen' ponyaten."Talantam nado pomogat', bezdarnosti prob'yutsya sami":)
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
@serenaluce Spanos не философ, и не писатель и иже с ними, чтобы я не могла понять его своим скудным умишком. Он ремесленник от искусства, равно как и все остальные исполнители, и отличается от других лишь своими техническими характеристиками. А фаны на то и фаны, чтобы воспринимать предмет своего поклонения как нечто экстраординарное.
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize Nu da,a chto geniyami mogut byt' tol'ko pisateli i filosofy?A kompozitory, naprimer,net?Bach i Tchaikovskii - ne genii?A tol'ko remeslenniki ot iskusstva? Naschet "skudnogo umishka" ya nichego ne govorila. Eto vy po svoei initsiative dobavlyaete.Ya tol'ko skazala, chto skol'ko lyudei, stol'ko i mnenii. Znachit, esli Platon umer ochen' davno, on - genii. Nu, navernoe Oscar Wilde dlya vas genii, a on skazal:"To be popular one must be a mediocrity".Eto naschet PJ,a prichem tut Spanos?:)
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
@serenaluce Повторяетесь относительно Уайльда, я это уже слышала. А вообще у меня есть ощущение, что у Вас три предпочтения на все случаи - Уайльд - Лемос - Спанос. И как всегда, Вы не понимаете меня, Вы принимаете каждое мое слово буквально. Полноте, мы ж говорим на русском языке, а он сродни санскриту - "языку философов и поэтов", и полон намеков и полутонов. Я хотела лишь сказать, что не нужно большого ума, чтобы понять Лемоса.
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize Nu znachit nuzhen bol'shoi um,chtoby ponyat' Spanosa:-).Znachit, on genii, a genii ne vsem ponyatny:-)Voobshe, eto zhe iskusstvo! Vse sub'ektivno! Eto na urovne emotsii, a ne uma!:-) Pro Wilde da, kayus', moya slabost' - prosto obozhayu ego, i mogu naiti u nego tsitaty na vse sluchai zhizni. A chto - eto plokho? Kto vam meshaet vashikh lyubimykh geniev tsitirovat'? Ya etu tsitatu upotrebila opyat' po delu. Vse-taki po-vashemu poluchaetsya,chto geniev net, a vse tol'ko remeslenniki:)
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
@serenaluce Ну, вот опять, я Вам про Фому, Вы мне про Ерему. Давайте прекратим этот бестолковый разговор. Меня, честно говоря, сейчас интересует совсем иное: со вчерашнего дня не дает покоя вопрос, является ли "Fandango del SigR Escarlate" Доменико Скарлатти сонатой, и если да, то какой у нее номер по каталогу Киркпатрика. Весь интернет перерыла, не могу ничего найти. Вы часом, не знаете?
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize Net, chasom ne znayu. Voobshe, esli mneniya ne sovpadayut, to eto chasto i kazhetsya, chto kto-to pro Fomu, a drugoi pro Eremu:-). Kak ya i govorila - eto tol'ko obmen mneniyami na YT, i nikto nikogo ne ubedit. Vse eto sofistika i demagogiya. A iskusstvo - eto emotsii:-).
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
@serenaluce Вот здесь я с Вами полностью согласна, искусство - это эмоции. Так давайте же не будем навязывать никому свое собственное мнение и говорить, что кто-то поет лучше кого-то, а будем просто слушать тех, кого мы любим, без фанатизма и экзальтированности.
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize Slushaite, eto bylo by v ideale, tol'ko lyudi ne ideal'ny i vsegda SRAVNIVAYUT i vyskazyvayut svoe mnenie. Vsegda sporyat i dokazyvayut, chto ikh favourites luchshe i pochemu. I vo vse vremena eto bylo, a inache ni muzyka by ne razvivalas' i ne menyalas', ni etot mir. Eto bor'ba za vyzhivanie tozhe. Vot vy zhe tozhe napisali, chto samyi krasivyi is zapisannykh kontrtenorov golos u Cencic.A pochemu?Drugie vam skazhut, chto est' luchshe.Vy napisali,chto nikto ne sravnitsya s Bartoli???
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
@serenaluce Дайте ссылочку на то место, где я говорю о Бартоли, очень любопытно посмотреть, где я это говорю.
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize Interesno,a vy tam v Rossii nikogda ne spite?:-)Ya vot uzhe sobirayus' spat' v Kanade:-)Oi, neuzheli eto ne vy govorili na video Cencic, seichas soobrazhu kakom, chto vse ravno Bartoli luchshe vsekh? Navernoe ya uzhe putayu russkikh:-) Interesno, a kem vy vot tak voskhishaetes' bez fanatizma, no goryacho? U vas tol'ko chto-to kakoi-to raschetlivyi analiz. A vot kto vashi favourites?Ya esli voskhishayus', tak pokazyvayu eto,no ne govoryu,chto u kogo-to serebryanye kryl'ya vyrosli!LOL
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize Oi, po-moemu eto byla aria iz Farnace, no tot kanal uzhe ne sushestvuet, t.k. byli kakie-to copy right issues...
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
@serenaluce Это называется "слышу звон, не знаю где он". В тех комментах к Фарнаку, я сказала, что у Cencic самый красивый голос, и тут же добавила, что это мнение австрийского журнала....
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize Net, eto bylo drugoe video na kanale operabaroque ili chto-to vrode etogo, no account uzhe zakryt. Nu, esli eto byli ne vy, izvinite:-). A kak vam Batoli?Ya ee na dukh ne perenoshu:-)
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
@serenaluce ..и настаивать на этом не стала. О Бартоли же я вообще никогда не говорила, Вы что-то путаете. Спокойной ночи.
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize Tak nravitsya ona vam ili net,esli my prosto obmenivaemsya mneniyami?:-)Kem vy voobshe voskhishaetes',esli eto ne sekret? Vy, konechno, po moim favourites obo mne tozhe mnenie sostavili:-)
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
@serenaluce Если не возражаете, давайте перенесем разговор в личку. Здесь мало места - ограничение до двухсот знаков.
lara777ize 2 weeks ago
@lara777ize A eto pochemu-to tol'ko na etom video glyuchit do 200 znakov, a na drugikh do 500:-). A u vas tak mnogo favourites, chto dazhe neskol'kikh samykh-samykh nel'zya zdes'?:-) Udachi vam!
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
Это не важно кто был первым контртенором в жизни,главное что он сделал для вас своим голосом.Вы говорите у вас запросы большие,но в чем? В том ,чтобы спеть арию по всем канонам вокального искусства?Я честно прослушала очень много контр теноров, в том числе и тех,кот.рекомендовали мне вы,но видит бог!ни один не вызвал у меня никаких эмоций.Очень понравилась Ч.Б.Дерик Ли Р,А.Шолль..Но вот ваш Спанос ничего не всколыхнул в моей душе,уж простите!Теперь мою любовь к Ф.Ж. невозможно убить!С уваж.
kosoglazaya1 2 weeks ago
@kosoglazaya1 Gosposdi,da ne sobirayus' ya ubivat' vashu lyubov' k PJ.Zaprosy u menya bol'shie ne v tom plane, chto kto-to po notam poet. Eto kak raz govoryat professional'nye muzykanty pro PJ, khotya on ne mozhet barokko po notam pet', t.k. ono postroeno na kontrapunkte, na kontrastakh, a on monotonno pilikaet na odnoi note, a potom prosto vybodit pustye sladkie treli,ispol'zuya velikuyu muzyku v svoikh interesakh. Nu ne vskolykhnul VASHU dushu Spanos,i slava bogu.Ne vsem dano ponyat' geniev!:)
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
дорогая сирена!, !Это просто мои мысли вслух.Я пишу для серебристого ангела эти письма которые он никогда не прочитает и,не узнает, что в далекой России есть человек,которому он изменил весь мир!Поздравляю всех с днем святого Валентина!Хочу чтобы каждый встретил свою любовь,как я встретила свою!Вы знаете,я самый счастливый человек на свете,я встретила своего серебристого ангела!Чего и всем желаю!С любовью!
kosoglazaya1 2 weeks ago
@kosoglazaya1 Oi, pravda, zachem ssorit'sya?:-) Ya vas tozhe pozdravlyayu s Dnem Svyatogo Valentina i vsekh tozhe!:-) A vot dlya menya Kowalski izmenil ves' moi mir, kogda ya ego uslyshala. Eto byl moi pervyi kontrtenor, kotoryi dlya menya ustanovil ochen' vysokuyu planku, i zaprosy u menya ochen' bol'shie:-).
serenaluce 2 weeks ago
несравненный филипп жаруски поздравляю тебя с днем рождения!Я так счастлива ,что ты открыл мне заново всю красоту музыки.Будь всегда рядом со мной серебристый ангел !
kosoglazaya1 3 weeks ago
@kosoglazaya1 A vy dumaete, on po-russki ponimaet?!:-) Khot' by po-angliiski ego pozdravili:-). Da, zhal' mne vas, chto dlya vas vsya krasota muzyki eto tol'ko deshevye popsovye parodii PJ na barokko, no ya sama pozdravlyayu svoikh lyubimykh artistov na YT, tak chto osuzhdat' zdes' vas ne mogu:-).
serenaluce 3 weeks ago
castrati ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ wow contratenor increible
akenathon24 3 weeks ago
Such a damned fine singer. Breathtaking!! I love it!!!!
nitrammmah 1 month ago
фаринелли пел в фильме арию лаша кье пьянга.Мне очень понравилось как спели Дерек иЕва,И еще,перестаньте меня оскорблять!Это говорит о вашей низкой культуре общения!нельзя же так себя вести,это некрасиво!И еще один вопрос-за что так ненавидите Ф.Ж?Ваш бы яд в медицину,хоть польза была бы!
kosoglazaya1 1 month ago
@kosoglazaya1 Dorogusha, eto ne ya napisala, a vy:"когда поет Ф.Ж.мир изменяется вокруг-птицы поют тише,ветер затихает в листве,капля росы останавливается в немом падении.Боль,гнев,счастье,любовь-все вспыхивает в моем сердце одновременно!И остается только его голос-голос серебристого ангела.Огромные блестящие крылья поднимаются высоко над его головой." Dumaete,pisat' takoi bred -eto vysokaya kul'tura obsheniya?Ya vas ne oskorblyayu,a dayu druzheskii sovet,chto-to s obsession nado chto-to delat'
serenaluce 1 month ago
@serenaluce Вы завидуете, что кто-то любит Ф.Ж.так сильно,что посвящает ему такие восторженные слова,а вам , наверное, уже давно никто так не говорил,конечно,обидно!
kosoglazaya1 4 weeks ago
@kosoglazaya1 Dorogusha,vy sravnivaete nesopostavimye veshi! Ya - ne pevitsa, chtoby mne, tem bolee na video drugikh pevtvov, kakie-to vostorzhennye slova pisali! LOL A kto mne v real'noi zhizni chto govorit - vy etogo ne znaete,a spekulirovat' mozhno ot zlosti chto ugodno! Ya voobshe-to ne obdelena muzhskim vnimaniem,chtoby vot tak kak vy prosto fanaret' ot kakoi-to plyushego mishki, poyushego slaben'kim fal'tsetikom.Mne slava bogu nikto ne govorit,chto u menya vyrosli serebryanye kryl'ya! LOL
serenaluce 4 weeks ago
когда поет Ф.Ж.мир изменяется вокруг-птицы поют тише,ветер затихает в листве,капля росы останавливается в немом падении.Боль,гнев,счастье,любовь-все вспыхивает в моем сердце одновременно!И остается только его голос-голос серебристого ангела.Огромные блестящие крылья поднимаются высоко над его головой.И летит в небо эта удивительная ария -лаша кье пьянга..Невозможно описать ,пережить!душа страдает вместе с Фаринелли!Филипп Жарусски-вы волшебник!
kosoglazaya1 1 month ago
@kosoglazaya1 Да у Вас просто мания под названием "Жарусски". Много я читала восторженных отзывов о нем, но такой бред впервые слышу. Пишите это лучше к себе в дневник, не смешите народ на Youtube. И прежде, чем писать, научитесь сначала грамоте.
lara777ize 1 month ago
@lara777ize Не переживайте,777,вам уже не грозит никакая мания,вы уже не сможете пережить заново все то ,что я переживаю сейчас ,слушая его волшебный голос.Возможно,когда-нибудь,внутри вашей души ,что-то и шевельнется,хотя,вряд ли А насчет грамоты, спасибо,только я не знаю,где я написала неправильно?Но ведь это нестрашно,главное,какие чувства вызывает во мне пение серебристого ангела!да,не спорю,вы в музыке разбираетесь больше,но вот это ваша беда.
kosoglazaya1 4 weeks ago
@kosoglazaya1 То, что я в музыке разбираюсь больше - благо, а не беда. Таким образом я могу "отделять зерна от плевел", если Вы понимаете, о чем я говорю. А о моей душе можете не беспокоиться, все, что нужно, в ней шевелится, только не под сладкоголосые напевы этого гея, а под великую музыку Моцарта, Баха, Гайдна и многих, многих других. Я не могу сдержать слез, когда слушаю Паваротти в "Тоске" или Мирошниченко в "Лючии ди Ламмермур". А если такая музыка для Вас слишком .....
lara777ize 4 weeks ago
@lara777izeДорогая три семерки! я очень рада,что я в музыке не профессионал,а то бы сидела вот так за компом и обсирала всех кто не любит ваших кумиров.а так,я слышу только чистое пение и эмоции,которые вызывает у меня тот или иной певец.Возможно ,когда-нибудь, мои вкусы в музыке изменятся,а пока я наслаждаюсь пением моего любимого. неподражаемого.удивительного серебристого ангела.В мире столько контр-теноров,а мне нравится только его голос.И я буду писать,а смеяться или нет-это ваше право"!
kosoglazaya1 4 weeks ago
@kosoglazaya1...серьезна, то и в барокко есть великое множество замечательной музыки и не менее замечательных исполнителей, в том числе и контратеноров, куда более достойных, чем Жарусски. Огромной своей популярностью он обязан грамотной рекламе, а также тому, что слушают его , в основном, люди весьма далекие от оперы в целом, и от барокко в частности, и не умеющие оценить ни качество вокала, ни технику исполнения, ни грамотность интерпретации.
lara777ize 4 weeks ago
Is SERENLUCE someone who envies Philippe Jaroussky??????? It's too bad that she's/he's on every Jaroussky site trying to convince everyone that he is just a pop singer. I also happen to think he's outstanding.
MIMIFORSAGE 1 month ago
@MIMIFORSAGE Dear, what is it to do with envy? Before writing this nonsense please check my channel! How come I don't ENVY real great COUNTERTENORS with full and round voices, all 3 well-developed registers, with deep LOW notes which this pop falsettist PJ doesn't have at all singing only on HIGH notes?! How come I don't envy Cencic,Lemos,White, Taylor, Lesne, Merna, Scholl,Daniels,Bowman, Esswood,Kowalski, Chance, many,even those whom I dislike but respect as true CTs e.g. Deller and Oberline?
serenaluce 1 month ago
@serenaluceАх сирена!вы знаете так много певцов,вы знаете кто как поет-хорошо или плохо,тихо или громко,у вас есть все,кроме любви"!мне вас жаль!человек без любви пуст,как пустая бочка.Она так громко гремит! .и,чтобы вы не писали о Ф.Ж..,для меня он самый лучший контр-тенор.
kosoglazaya1 1 month ago
@kosoglazaya1 Dorogusha,da chto vy -u menya stol'ko lyubvi, khot' otbavlyai! I k moemu zamechatel'nomu muzhu,i k nastoyashim artistam, kotorymi ya umeyu voskhishat'sya bez idolopoklonstva kak vy,t.k. u menya s golovoi vse v poryadke, i obsession ya ne stradayu.I pop ya tozhe lyublyu,tol'ko takikh aferistov kak PJ prezirayu, t.k. on delaet den'gi na lyudskom nevezhestve.A u vas prosto krysha s'ekhala.Naslazhdaites' ego peniem,tol'ko ostav'te v pokoe Farinelli, kotoryi ne pel etu ZHENSKUYU ariyu!
serenaluce 1 month ago
@serenaluce Ну, женские арии Фаринелли все же пел на заре своей певческой карьеры, будучи совсем юным, а вот Генделя он точно никогда не пел. И я недоумеваю, почему авторы фильма допускают такие грубые ошибки, как исполнение Фаринелли двух ролей в одной опере. В надежде, что зрители ничего не поймут?
lara777ize 1 month ago
@lara777ize Voobshe-to Farinelli pel Handel, i oni vstrechalis' v Londona. Kazhetsya, kak raz v Rinaldo i pel Rinaldo. Tak eto zhe film, pop product, dopuskayushii istoricheskie netochnosti. Chto Farinelli kak-budto by pel etu ariyu Almireny - eto tol'ko effektnyi priem, chtoby pokazat' stsenu kastratsii, i kak on oplakivaet svoyu sub'du. Nel'zya zhe verit' e.g. Dumas, chto 3 mushketera ezdili v London, chtoby dobyt' podveski...No interesnoe chtivo!:-)Da bol'shinstvo tam nichego i ne ponyalo;-)
serenaluce 1 month ago
@serenaluce Я настаиваю на том, что Фаринелли никогда не пел Генделя. И насколько мне известно, именно в Лондоне Фаринелли оказался втянутым в противостояние между Генделем и Порпорой, разумеется, на стороне Порпоры. А Ринальдо он петь просто не мог по двум причинам, во-первых, Гендель не любил вокал Фаринелли, и никогда с ним не сотрудничал, а писал, в основном для Сенезино, а во-вторых, партия Ринальдо предназначена для альта, а Фаринелли был сопрано.
lara777ize 1 month ago
@lara777ize Eto imeet smysl,chto vy govorite,tol'ko Handel mog perepisat' partituru dlya drugogo golosa,kotoryi u nego byl v nalichie, kak i Vivaldi naprimer.A voobshe, zhizn' geniev oveyana legendami.Ya vot chitala, chto oni vstrechalis' i sotrudnichali, i takoi nenavisti, kak v fil'me, Handel ne ispytyval. Drugie pishut, chto ne vtrechalis'. Komu verit'?A voobshe, oni mogli muzhskuyu partiyu napisat' dlya baby tol'ko potomu, chto ona byla ch'ei-to lyubovnitsei...No uzh PJ tochno ne AlmirenaLOL
serenaluce 1 month ago
@serenaluce В фильме просто создана интрига для большего интереса. Никакой вражды между Генделем и Фаринелли не было, и некоторые источники говорят о том, что Гендель действительно восторга в отношении Фаринелли не испытывал. Стал бы он приглашать его в свою оперу, да еще и переписывать для него арии? Фаринелли пел в основном Порпору, Броски, Хассе, Винчи, ну и еще не помню кого.
lara777ize 1 month ago
@lara777ize A kto znaet?Farinelli byl v mode. Na Handel mogli tozhe nadavit'.U nego byli postoyannye finansovye problemy. O tom zhe Handel pishut, chto o nem malo kto voobshe znal, i chto skoree vsego on byl gay.A ya chitala, chto odna zhenshina zakrichala:"Odin bog, odin Farinelli" imenno, kogda on pel Handel.A chto seichas vse reshaet odin vkus?Da vse i zanimayutsya prostitutsiei,t.k. PJ delaet bol'she vsekh deneg na lyudskom nevezhestve,i vse khotyat s nim urvat' dlya sebya.PJ -Farinelli!LOL
serenaluce 1 month ago
@serenaluce "Фаринелли - бог" , говорили о нем в Лондоне, после того, как он спел (как раз в противовес Генделю) в опере Хассе "Артаксеркс", куда включил сложнейшие арии Броски.
lara777ize 1 month ago
@lara777ize Spasibo za informatsiyu. Vot eto diskussiya na YT, kotoraya mozhet i prosvyatit' i dukhovno obogatit', a takzhe zastravit' dumat' i chitat' eshe bol'she v kakom-to opredelennom napravlenii. A vot etot bred, chto PJ - nastoyashii countertenor, kotoryi mozhet pet' barokko, potomu chto u nego na spine serebristye krylyshki vyrosli, i rosa zamerzaet na letu, eto izvinite, ne diskussiya, a material dlya psykhiatrov, pochemu lyudi ot peniya s uma skhodyat,i kak s etim borot'sya! LOL
serenaluce 1 month ago
@serenaluce Относительно серебряных крыльев я там уже написала, добавить мне нечего, истерия какая-то. Поковырявшись на форумах, я много видела там подобных экзальтированных дамочек, но это уже перебор. Что поделаешь, падки наши дамы на ангельские голоса и смазливые физиономии. Тут вчера смотрела концерт тенора и баритона. Слушать, в общем, было нечего, просто было любопытно. Так Вы не поверите, в зале - одни дамы, и на весьма посредственное исполнение - шквал аплодисментов.
lara777ize 1 month ago
@lara777ize Nu da,ya nemnogo mogu ponyat',chto lyudi sluchaino otkryli dlya sebya kontrtenora, kogda mnogie dazhe ne znayut, chto muzhchiny mogut tak pet', i eto ikh mir perevorachivaet, chto kazhetsya kakoe-to vremya, chto trava zelenee i nebo golubee,tol'ko zachem ob etom na YT pisat' v kachestve muzykal'nykh argumentov?:-) A takzhe, chto zamuzh khotyat za pevtsa!LOL Da,a u russkikh damochek osobyi idiotizm, t.k. oni gordyatsya ne talantom, a chto oni tozhe "Ja roussky".Tak na shit i shkval:)
serenaluce 1 month ago
я так счастлива ,что в мою жизнь вошел серебристый ангел!я так его теперь называю.Его голос звучит всегда вокруг меня,я слышу его в капле дождя,в шелесте ветра,в звездном небе.В его голосе нет осуждения,ненависти,зла-в этом голосе только одна любовь!тысячу раз спасибо!!!!!!!!!!!
kosoglazaya1 1 month ago
@kosoglazaya1 Da, vy pravil'no skazali - v ego golose tol'ko lyubov' k den'gam, raz on tak izdevaetsya nad nastoyashim iskusstvom!
serenaluce 1 month ago
когда я услышала эту арию впервые. когда спел филипп жарусски,я думала я умерла и когда он закончил петь.я родилась снова.но уже другим человеком. Как это возможно?Всего за пять минут арии он перевернул всю мою жизнь и теперь я не могу жить по старому.Он изменил не только мои пристрастия в музыке ,он открыл мне другой мир!,
kosoglazaya1 1 month ago
Esta canción NO TIENE CLIMAX, esta mil veces mejor la de farinelli il'castrato...
djmethal 1 month ago
@djmethal obvio que es mejor la de farinelli, si esque te refieres al de la pelicula, por que es una adaptacion de la voz de una soprano, Ewa Mallas y un contratenor Derek Lee, para intentar acercarse a la maravilllosa gran voz que fue la de Carlos Broschi (farinelli).
PoTJ600 1 month ago
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djmethal 1 month ago
ESTA MUY BUENA PERO POR FAVOR!! EL RITMO DE LA CANCION ES POQUITIN MAS RAPIDO!!
solouyo 2 months ago
what's w the facial expressions? make me LOL.
xtacee1990 2 months ago
I don't even think this is his best..I think he could do even better. That's not a criticism. He's in a different place..I'd bet he's transported the audience with him. I believe his body could translate the words as a conversation with a dear friend. Especially his hands. This mans phrasing is wonderful...go further with volume and movements of desperation. How would a body move in real life with this pain? I think he has the potential to sing this aria better then it's ever been done.
cugir321 2 months ago
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@cugir321 You just forgot to say that you admire PJ as a pop singer.Any good pop singer transports his audience especially with a help of a mighty microphone in a big venue with big orchestras with him or her.But it has nothing to do with true BAROQUE and Handel!A real CT or any OPERA singer at all is supposed to sing not with his HANDS,soft manicured FINGERS or TOES like PJ in some videos but with VOICE to express HUMAN emotions according to the IMAGE! It's a WOMAN's aria!What potential forMAN?
serenaluce 2 months ago
Philippe does a wonderful baroque (historically correct) interpretation here. I used to be a countertenor myself, until the fateful "accident" that deprived me of my tool forever. I can't do anything but cry when he gives me back what I have lost with his rich voice, no matter what setting in which he does it. SING PHILIPPE, SING. For all of us. Thank you for his. Mille mercis.
SeanOsborneII 3 months ago
@SeanOsborneII So, if because of your "accident" YOU lost YOUR tool forever is no proof at all that this POP falsettist Philippe Jaroussky is a countertenor and especially that he "does a wonderful baroque interpretation here"! What you wrote is just NON SEGUITUR! These 2 things are not connected, and it's not a proof of PJ's greatness! If you are so sensitive about your personal tragidy ANY piece about "Let me cry over my cruel fate" will make YOU cry! No matter if it's baroque or PURE POP!!!
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce After reading your comments here I can tell you have serious affective problems. Go to a therapist and try to live happier.
pahduarte 2 months ago 7
@pahduarte What problems do I have? I'm happily married. And my husband is a manly man. What can a therapist do? Make PJ honest that he is not a real CT but just a pop falsettist? What is it to do with happiness? I like many pop singers, I like e.g. Russian pop singer Philipp Kirkorov who sings in falsetto for fun in a costume a la Farinelli but he doesn't claim it true baroque, so I enjoy it. I like Klaus Nomi with painted nails singing like a woman in falsetto as long a nobody calls him CT!
serenaluce 2 months ago
@pahduarte I guess that it has nothing to do with this, I mean affective problems or any other. You may like him, she may not. That's it. @serenaluce can comment anything she wants as long as she doesn't offend anyone, so, stop it! If you like Jaroussky, go on, like him, I DO like him too, she does not, so what? Stop arguing.
LittleNeko666 1 month ago
@SeanOsborneIIДОРОГОЙ,ВЫ НЕ ПОТЕРЯЛИ СВОЙ ГОЛОС!ЭТО НЕВОЗМОЖНО!ВАШ ГОЛОС ЖИВЕТ ВНУТРИ ВАС ,ВЫ ЕГО СЛЫШИТЕ И НЕ ВАЖНО,ЧТО ГОВОРЯТ ДРУГИЕ.ВЫ ТО ЗНАЕТЕ,ЧТО У ВАС ЕСТЬ КРАСИВЕЙШИЙ ГОЛОС ВО ВСЕМ МИРЕ.А ФИЛИПП ЖАРУССКИ ПОМОГАЕТ ВАМ НЕ ЗАБЫТЬ ВАШ ГОЛОС.С УВАЖЕНИЕМ
kosoglazaya1 2 weeks ago
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It would be nice if not too many people waste their precious life time with reading the inane comments of some people who write pages and pages here attacking PhJ, obviously because they are not completely sane. I am sure you, dear reader, have much better things to do!
CaraPhilos 3 months ago
Époustouflant.
Galardowin 4 months ago
Such wonderful, passionate singing - moved me to tears.
snaej2 4 months ago
But orchestra is suxx
blackswaneleven 5 months ago
I heard this before but I thought there was a women.
Somthing wrong with his balls, but this is perfect.
blackswaneleven 5 months ago
@blackswaneleven Something wrong with his balls? Something wrong with your brain, maybe. He is a countertenor, not a castrated.
3F93 4 months ago 3
@blackswaneleven Guy I dont wanna be rude but first learn types of voice and only after write your "smartest" comments
SimpleManOfFreedom 3 months ago
@SimpleManOfFreedom You're right, I was incompetent.
blackswaneleven 3 months ago
@blackswaneleven It's ok everyone can have a mistakes. I'm glad you understood that :)
SimpleManOfFreedom 3 months ago
does this guy still have his balls? O.o
idiotic4 5 months ago
OMG an EUNUCH
sooperfukker 5 months ago
Impresionante! Sin lugar a dudas, philippe se destaca por su melodiosa voz el colorido de sus agudos, la versatilidad de su garganta al mantener una nota y variarla con un extraordinario virtuosismo,pero el nivel de interpretacion la pasion y la entrega que le ofrece a la pieza la cual canta con tanto dominio seran rasgos notorios por los cuales sera recordado.
gibertCarrera 6 months ago
que voz tan maravillosa...
ryuchyglorina 6 months ago
ESTA OBRA DE HAENDEL ES LA QUE MAS ME CONMUEVE. ESTE PASAJE ES INCREIBLE.lA MELODIA CONCUERDA CON LO QUE DICE, MARAVILLOSAMENTE.
marysor2009 6 months ago
super
ursulaursul 6 months ago
Il y a un bourdonnement en fond sonore qui est horrible!
racontemoi077 6 months ago 3
@racontemoi077 oui! c'est vrai!
lolataah 6 months ago
Il y a beaucoup de très bons contre ténors mais PJ a une sensibilité très particulière qui lui permet d'exceller dans le Barroque et qu'il retransmet dans ses interprétations. Je ne me lasse jamais de l'écouter. Une des meilleures interprétations de Lascia Chio Pianga!
kenavo2103 6 months ago
i love him!!! ....... i love his voice!!!
JTreZ92DoramDiccion 6 months ago
Counter tenors always seem to be tall.. wonderful voice, those who think it's manufactured - fuck off and give your own voice a seeing to, try to do this yourself and then critisize...
Rattywotin 6 months ago
If angels do exist,then must have the face and voice like Jaroussky has!
MAGNIFICENT!
Stemih40 7 months ago
This is outdoors and live. PJ does a magnificent job.
And even if you think he is too much of a popstar: remember the guy has to make a living of his singing. That requires some selling of yourself, hence the public appearances in tv shows and all the interviews. One needs exposure to sell records. That does not affect his vocal abilities in any way, it does in no manner diminish being a serious classical artist at the same time. Those who do feel that way are simply snobby elitists.
carolineleiden 7 months ago 11
@carolineleiden Sorry again, but we are not SNOBBY ELITISTS! Any artist needs expesure to sell records and make enough to live on it and their performances. But any artist should be HONEST how he makes MONEY and what kind of ART they claim they do! Classics in POP INTERPRETATIONS has always existed, but it should be MENTIONED on the COVER OF RECORDINGS and in DESCRIPTION on YT, in CONCERTS that it's A POP SINGER performing e.g. here baroque.Otherwise it's only making MONEY on people's IGNORANCE!
serenaluce 3 months ago
@serenaluce
You mean like one of those yellow stickers you also find on prescription medication like valium, that warns you not to drive or drink alcohol with this product? *grin* "This is not oldschool baroque: kids, do not try this at home".
carolineleiden 3 months ago
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@carolineleiden Exactly! I appreciate your sense of humour! LOL The only correction it that if kids like this non-oldschool baroque they still can try it at home and enjoy,but not to tell those who can tell real product from its cheap immitation that it's TRUE not to make fools of themselves!LOL Your comment reminded me one hair coloring product of long ago when they still used TABLETS to mix with developing cream.I thought it was obvious,but for IDIOTS it was specified:"Please don't SWALLOW!LOL
serenaluce 3 months ago
@serenaluce
Nowadays, nobody buys an album just for the cover or the name of the composer. There is Youtube where you can check it out first, and on Amazon they also have small fragments to listen to before you buy.
I still do not agree with you when it comes to put him in the pop section of the recordshops. His voice has a different timbre than most others, but his technique really is good and his musicality is undeniable. He also does not change one single note of the music.
carolineleiden 3 months ago
@serenaluce I agree he has a rockstar status, he is famous, the crowd loves him. But that does not label the music as pop. The music is original, on contemporary instruments, no rythms added or sound effects. He is no David Garrett. The voice line is also exactly as it was written. If anyone is oldschool in his approach, it is PJ. But his voice just sounds different than most. Can't help that. Not everyone may like it. But that does not mean he can't sing or that he is a pop artist..
carolineleiden 3 months ago 2
@carolineleiden Wrong, nowadays people buy only what is PROMOTED and esplained to them that it's GREAT.Come to any supermarket and see the section:"Great movies" or "Great music". They can sell absolute TRASH there, but as it's ADVERTISED people say it's GREAT! PJ is OVERPROMOTED and it's FASHIONABLE to talk about him and be part of a big crowd! It's much more difficult to think their OWN head and compare! Nowadays people LOST this ability!If e.g. they are told AVATAR is great, nobody challeges!
serenaluce 3 months ago
@carolineleiden Wrong again. The biggest crowds in the world are attracted by primitive POP, ROCK, HEAVY METALL singers! REAL opera singers can't compete with any e.g. Lady Gaga! You are WRONG! The voice line is exactly WRITTEN for a WOMAN, NOT a man! It's Almirena's aria from Rinaldo! In Farinelli, il Castrato it was used as EFFECTIVE MOVE, and this film is overall also POP which means POPULAR! Real Farinelli sang Cara Sposa, and couldn't sing a DUET with himself as ALMIRENA:"Scherzano sul..."!
serenaluce 3 months ago
@serenaluce
If people are stupid and placid, it is because of their own ignorance. With the internet at hand, everybody can do more research and increase their knowledge at the click of a mouse.
The ones that choose not to, don't deserve any better. They're probably extremely happy with it it as well.
I think it is allright for a man to sing a womans part, and vice versa too. If you can make the highs and lows, by all means, knock yourself out and do if you like the part. I do Cara Sposa.
carolineleiden 3 months ago
@carolineleiden Of course, nothing's so BAD if a man sings a woman's aria, and vice versa! It's not the end of the world!:-) You can sing Cara Sposa too as a woman, but mind if it's taken separately from Handel's OPERA Rinaldo where the MALE character of Rinaldo sings also e.g. Venti turbini, but doesn't present as transvestite show where he plays MALE and then FEMALE part of Almirena, it just becomes POP like a POP SONG! PJ even can't sing it close to castrati as they had HUGE RANGE in singing!
serenaluce 3 months ago
@serenaluce
I do Venti turbini too. (DIFFICULT!!!) All the castrates parts used to be sung by mezzo and alto females for the past two centuries, for lack f men to sing them, and they sang female parts too. If there is nothing wrong with that, than a man can do the female and male partts, as long as his voice can do it. That does not turn it into a cage au folles, I believe.
This particular voice has in fact graduated cum laude at the conservatory, so I would not describe that as a POP voice.
carolineleiden 3 months ago
@carolineleiden Friend, wrong again, sorry:-).Philippe Jaroussky graduated from Sorbonne I'm not sure cum laude or not, but let it even be cum laude:-) not as a VOICE, but playing on a DIFFIRENT musical instrument - VIOLINE! It doesn't automatically make him a SINGER! If somebody graduates from a PEDAGOGICAL college as a chemistry teacher doesn't make them a GREAT music teacher!LOL Also,as subject for discussion: if WOMEN still sing castrati roles why MEN can't sing WOMEN e.g. in verismo operas?
serenaluce 3 months ago
SKAZOCHNO!
mus9999 7 months ago
Bravissimo, Philippe**********
nonnopirro52 7 months ago
A very good voice.
TheOriester 8 months ago
Should I believe that this is Almirena singing for his lover, Rinaldo?
Erikk91 8 months ago
Some people should just shut the fuck up and learn to enjoy good music when they can. This is Händel. What else do you want ? A perfect singer doesn't exist. However, singers who try their best to express themselves with beautiful music do exist. And they can make you remember that music is made of emotions. Thanks PJ.
Sednareinedeseaux 8 months ago 31
@Sednareinedeseaux Some people like you should enjoy their POP music for which great Handel was sacrificied by your precious PJ and ignore other comments if they don't understand what they are about and not to show their ignorance! It's not about being a PERFECT singer. Voices can't be perfect as they belong to REAL people, and NOBODY is perfect, but pop singers should remain in their pop category as they don't have PROPER TECHNINQUE and not be presented as true CTs. Where's any EMOTION here?!
serenaluce 8 months ago
@serenaluce In fact, I dislike pop music. I think PJ has a beautiful voice, and all the technique he needs to show emotions (yes, I'm still saying that, and I won't change my mind). I understand that some other singers are much more experienced and I KNOW nobody can have a perfect voice, thank you very much, I myself never spend a day without practicing. But it doesn't change the fact that I like him and that your comments about "truly great artists", "cheating" and such really annoy me.
Sednareinedeseaux 8 months ago
@Sednareinedeseaux I see that we are just speaking different languages. In fact I like pop music. Nobody can like just one genre and ignore others which all have a merit. Also, what PJ sings has a merit too and people can like it too, no problem with it. But it should be presented in the RIGHT way, what it really is "classics in modern interpretation" and not serious operatic stuff.Not only Michael Jackson is a pop singer:).PJ is too who sings classics in pop manner and is compared with CTs here
serenaluce 8 months ago
@Sednareinedeseaux It has nothing to do with your or PJ's practising every day.Pop singers also practise every day and can share more emotions in a true pop manner which doesn't require operatic technique, big voice,breath control of a classically trained opera singer.Hope you won't say that to be an opera singer is easier than just to sing pop?PJ is a pop singer as he just superficially touches his vocal cords without any depth of interpretation and expressing the image.It's emotional to you...
serenaluce 8 months ago
@serenaluce Well that may be true since I'm French ;) Seems like I completely misunderstood what you were talking about then. Sorry for that. But I'm so tired of people always criticizing everything that I reacted without thinking. And you're right about becoming an opera singer being a lot more difficult than singing pop. Still I don't think PJ steals anything from "true" opera singers by singing himself (I'm still uncomfortable with your terms, in my opinion there's nothing like that).
Sednareinedeseaux 8 months ago
@Sednareinedeseaux
Il n y a que les jaloux qui critiquent ceux qui ont du talent!!
L'émotion que me procure PJ est celle de l'amour qu il a pour la musique et il le transmet de façon merveilleuse! un Français!
Christiannewyork1 7 months ago 2
The orchestra sucks! it's not Haendel. Poor Philippe. But his voice is great!
blagodatov 9 months ago
There is people who even with all the amplification, chorus, reverb and autotune of the universe would never EVER sing like this... serenaluce and all the others. are you examples of these?
SeKaBroN 9 months ago in playlist Lascia ch'io pianga
@SeKaBroN Buddy, you don't understand at all our discussion. My argument was not about that PJ can't EVER sing like this or that and that he shouldn't sing like he sings or people can't enjoy his singing but that he is a POP singer using falsetto and not a real CT, who performs baroque and other supposedly serious classical stuff in a very superficial, POP manner, only giving an IMPRESSION of baroque without any DEPTH and proper technique and also CHEATS with a hiddent mike unlike e.g. CENCIC!
serenaluce 9 months ago
@SeKaBroN Amplification in supposedly true operatic stuff is UNACCEPTABLE and you just agreed that PJ uses it, and you express that you don't care how it's done, but if a singer does so it only proves that he or she is a true POP singer, and any decent, honest POP SINGER should just work in the PROPER category and not CHEAT to have an advangate against TRULY GREAT artists. What is it to do with serenaluce's or other's own singing?! Use your brains. Are you a ballet dancer?You can't comment it?
serenaluce 9 months ago
@serenaluce Well it's precisely because I use my brain that I don't comment about things I don't do. People who pass all the day being a couch potato can't comment about anything. It would be silly that I commented on ballet. All critics' heads work the same way.
SeKaBroN 6 months ago
@SeKaBroN So why don't you use your brains not to comment about things you don't understand either like "amplification, chorus, reverb and autotune of the universe..." and also if somewhat serenaluce and "all the others" (who?) are examples of something and if they can EVER or NEVER sing like this? If you don't understand such stuff, can't compare with other true CTs why comment?All PROFESSIONAL critics' heads work the same way as it's their JOB, but fans CAN comment on anything, ballet as well
serenaluce 6 months ago 2
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Pikatrix90 9 months ago
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@SeKaBroN Don't worry Jaroussky is NOT amplified more or less than any other CTs out there and he certainly doesn't use ''hidden microphones to cheat people''. I've heard PJ, Cencic and Scholl in person and while none of them was amplified, it was PJ who was better heard in the hall. And ramblings about PJ's supposed amplification on here come from people who have never heard him in person....
Pikatrix90 9 months ago 3
GREAT!! one of the most beautiful voices I´ve heard in Years! Thank you for sharing it.
TeacherMoises 9 months ago
@TeacherMoises he has amazing vibrato ......
51m0n77 9 months ago
His singing style is more like pop? Well that's fitting -- a lot of baroque opera was written for the castrati who were worshipped like the rock stars of their era. Many people attended operas to swoon and be wowed by vocal fireworks. Arias during that period were often written to show off the castrati's vocal skills. Opera was a different animal 100 years later.
narwagner 9 months ago
@narwagner An excellent observation....I could not put my finger on it. You have done so for me. Thank you.
normallawrence 9 months ago in playlist my music
A male singing in falsetto should be able to amplify as well as any female soprano or contralto -- in opera, women always singing in falsetto, i.e., their "head voice."
narwagner 9 months ago
@arpeggio,@serenaluce,@PhillipLWicher, all of you have raised the cover of these cheap tricks. But these tricks bring attention and money to the finer Arts. No these performers won't be remembered only True Greats are. They simply bring in much needed money to continue training great artists.
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dualis2 9 months ago
Magnificent !!!
Trailertrasher 9 months ago
This is a real countertenor!
My hair stands on end. He really interprets the music!
MarcelGomesPan 10 months ago
I googled lascia chio pianga and came across Phillippe Jaroussky by accident. really appreciate him and everything he does, I am a female singer metzo sopprano, and I relate to his voice and the balance he has between the male and female voice which is open to all of us.
lindaalexa1 10 months ago
This moves mountains for me.
It is one of the most perfectly measured Arias music will ever know.
Philippe Jaroussky falters not once. His sense of pitch and his phrasing is as poised as his voice is pure. Both he and the orchestra are completely centred in every possible way. What an absolute blessing it has been listening to this.
PhillipLWilcher 10 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher You've got to be kidding. PJ is flat, emotionless, and really a pop performer to boot. He sings in a pop style. He can't even sing without a microphone. No respectable opera or classical singer would use a microphone.
arpeggio1358 10 months ago
@arpeggio1358 I kid you not. After having just read your reply to me, for which I thank you sincerely, I have listened to this performance with a more concentrated hearing than before.
On the question of his pitch I stand by my earlier comment. He is centred. As for the emotion he brings to this aria, it seems to me well measured and aligned overall, understated and elegant. The concert appears to be open air, in a vast arena. I doubt any singer, opera or otherwise, would not use a microphone.
PhillipLWilcher 10 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher Look at all of PJ's videos. He always uses a microphone, even in small venues. There is even a live opera performance on YouTube in which one can clearly tell that he he is amplified, though the microphone is well hidden. I'm sorry, but with all due respect, I'm never going to like PJ's pop style of singing. We'll just have to disagree.
arpeggio1358 10 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher Dear Phillip, you know what I greatly respect you and appreciate very much your beautiful music but I have to disagree with you and agree with arpeggio. And it's not because I want to degrade competitors and promote Spanos like primitive people accuse me. I'm only his and many other REAL CTs' fan and not a paid promoter for PJ who use all dishonest means to make money on him. Yes, on open air everybody uses a mike but they all should be emplified in the same way....
serenaluce 9 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher If you watched enough of PJ's videos you could notice that when he sings with real opera singers no matter with another CT or a real classically trained female singer with proper technique, though he has a weak, pigeon chest, no lung capacity at all to perform castrati repertoire which is tough phisical stuff, strenious vocal acrobatic which only strong enough men can do properly... this sexless, anorexic creature always sounds LOUDER of at least not quieter? How is it possible?
serenaluce 9 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher His fooled brainwashed by promotional machine fans write that they heard him live e.g. with Cencic, Scholl and he sounds LOUDER than them! I'm sorry to contradict you, you can like PJ's sweet isolated, all emotionally detached trills (I wonder where is any PAIN and SUFFERING in this aria rendeded by PJ?!) but still you should mention that you like him as a POP SINGER, not classical CT. There's no HONEST way that PJ with his FLAT VOICE, grazing superficially by the surface...
serenaluce 9 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher ..without any proper technique, just a cheap POP FALSETTIST (men where not castrated at baroque time to produce just HIGH NOTES, they were physically strong with wide chest to sound ANGELICALLY but express all range of HUMAN emotions to move the heart and not just please by sweet HIGH notes without LOWER REGISTER at all!) can sound LOUDER than great CENCIC with all 3 well develloped registers, classical technique, great breath control. It's only because PJ uses HIDDEN MICROPHONE
serenaluce 9 months ago
@serenaluce Where would you place Pavarotti, Domingo and even Kathleen Battle singing Over The Rainbow with a hand microphone? My tastes as a musician are perhaps more liberal. I recognise creativity as coming from the same source despite genre and in a world such as the one in which we live today, it warms my heart to think that against such a backdrop of natural disasters and political violence, the likes of which we have never seen more devastating, creativity still has its place.
PhillipLWilcher 9 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher Creativity definitely has a place, but I don't see PJ as creative. He uses tricks to fool his fans and that has no place in the world of opera and classical music in general. It's a cheap pop singer trick. Pavarotti, Domingo, and Carreras used mics in their Three Tenors Concerts (not great music but maybe there were people who were inspired to investigate live opera) because they were in large outdoor venues with poor acoustics. They never used mics in live opera performances.
arpeggio1358 9 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher I'm sorry if I didn't make my point crystall clear: I'm not absolutely against using microphones. In open air performances, in big venues, with poor acoustics, in some kind of recording situations it's NECESSARY! But all the participants should have the same kind of mike and should be emplified in THE SAME WAY. But PJ uses a HIDDEN MIKE even in live OPERA performances as a means of COMPETITION to have an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE over other true singers like GREAT CENCIC who has VOICE!!!
serenaluce 9 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher ...Otherwise it's the same FRAUD like in sports when all the rest of the field can be strong, fit athletes, physically more expected to win but they are honest and don't use enhancement drugs but there's one weak and unfit who takes a DOPING and WINS! And all the people don't know the reason and applaud him, make him a hero, worship him only because he CHEATS!.. Pavarotti and Domingo are real opera singers with proper technique, depth but Bocelli doesn't have even BREATH CONTROL
serenaluce 9 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher My tastes in music are liberal too. But I'm against dishonesty just to serve the MARKET. It's not the end of the world that somebody presents classics in a pop manner. It's always been and it'll always be. I'm also for CREATIVITY! If PJ presented his singing as "Classics in modern interpretation" as what it really is we could talk about his creativity but here it's NOT! Well, of course, if we talk NATURAL DISASTER, VIOLENCE PJ is a pure ANGEL then but he is still pure POP SINGER
serenaluce 9 months ago
@serenaluce I seem to have found myself caught in some competitive spirit here of which I would rather not be a part . I am a composer who competes with no one other than myself. For myself, I believe there is no great virtue in claiming victory over another - the greater virtue lies in claiming victory over one's self. I also believe there are better ways of saying things and that any criticism should either equal or better the thing being criticised if criticism is ever to achieve the ideal.
PhillipLWilcher 9 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher Again, I tried to explain that there's no competitive spirit from me to degrade my favourites' main competitor. It's your right to end any discussion. I appreciate very much your music and believe that you compete only with yourself and the greatest victory is really over oneself. But in showbusiness not everybody is so honest. I wonder why e.g. Brightman, Jenkins, Church, Bocelli, Watson, etc. can be criticized and many people point out they are POP SINGERS. PJ is UNTOUCHABLE?
serenaluce 9 months ago
@serenaluce For whatever PJ's perceived or considered faults, he may well have opened a door to an audience and introduced people to a genre that otherwise might never have been made known to them and in this time called life, where way leads on to way, that public might then come to appreciate even further what wonders there are in classical music at its most pure. Blessings and best.....but I'd rather not engage further in such discussions, thank you.
PhillipLWilcher 9 months ago
@PhillipLWilcher Absolutely true. Couldn't agree more with you here: PJ really has opened a door to a difference audience and introduced more people to a genre that otherwise might never have been made known to them in their lifetime. But what he really sings is NOT real BAROQUE but superficial pop impressions of it and should be presented in the right section of any music store "Classics in modern interpretations" and not like "we should kneel before PJ for revival of TRUE BAROQUE"! It's FRAUD!
serenaluce 9 months ago
@serenaluce I don't think PJ's fans will ever realize just how much of a big bunch of hype he is. He's a fake. Using a hidden mic is pretty awful. He's not fooling people with decent ears though. In a live opera performance on YT it's very easy to tell that he's being amplified. One can't tell where the mic is hidden, but it's obvious that it's there. I prefer to listen to singers who are honest.
arpeggio1358 9 months ago
@arpeggio1358 It's my point too. There's no way he can sound louder than true opera singers in the same event who have proper classical technique, great breath control no matter if the say in their natural voice or using falsetto like Cencic who has a CHEST, uses his DIAPHRAGM, has smooth, velvet low notes. People with decent ears should use LOGIC to detect the trick and not just to declare PJ a genius who can sing louder without opera technique. Veronique Jens would blow him away with her voice
serenaluce 9 months ago
@serenaluce We're absolutely agreed that PJ is always amplified, even if the source of amplification isn't obvious. He really is being dishonest when he does this. Opera/classical singers should always be able to be heard without amplification. I'm sadly afraid that he will go on making tons of money and playing to adoring fans. The fans really don't understand that what they're getting is fake.
arpeggio1358 9 months ago