RetroBites: Muhammad Ali Trains

[bluebear1985]

A few years after this particular fight, Ali would fight Chuvalo again in Vancouver in 1972. He would end up retaining his heavyweight title with a twelve round unanimous decision.

[peepeevagi]

Back when you could have a middle eastern sounding name and not get crap over it, you had Muhammad Ali.

Now that we give them crap, you get osama bin-laden, Barack Obama, and the like.

I voted for obama. You know he got crap for the name.

[Jimmison007]

Ali says himself its a slave name, so you saying that its not a slave name is calling him a liar.

[1oldirishman]

I love reading the opinions on here. But that's what they are. Opinions! Most of you probably know more about boxing than I do, and I don't need to be told you could all 'whip my ass'. But my opinion is that Ali was the greatest heavyweight of all time, and one of the greatest Americans.

[SA2137]

you do know alot about boxing.

[1oldirishman]

Thanks, SA. I doubt if I know half as much as you, and I doubt if we would agree about life in general, but this I do know: That big boy, who then was Cassius Clay, who fought and, to my astonishment, beat, the mighty Sonny Liston, could call himself whatever the hell he liked, and still beat any man on Earth. I'm against cruelty, and have no time for religions, but when he later changed his name, and asked another useful fighter, whilst beating him to a pulp,"What's my name?" I smiled.

[SA2137]

np , yeah me too mate .

[blackdogleg]

the greatest!!!!!

[420Sufi420]

His name isn't clay his name is Muhammad Ali, He said he doesn't like his slave name but now hes a free man.

[Belokki]

its not a slave namea! His parrents gave him that name, and they werent slaves! The muslim convert used the cheap race card to convince him to change his name

[mosiahmusic]

@Belokki

it is a slave name genius,

the names of africans were stripped from them during slavery and the names of the white 'masters' were put on them just as a brandname is put on any product 2day

learn history before you comment

[SA2137]

lol, you don t know shit about anything, lol.

[Belokki]

@SA2137 reallly? prove me wrong

[SA2137]

clay is a slave name you fucking cunt. Im black my grandparents inherited the same last name. Please dont talk when you know nothing, Soon or later you run into people like me.

[Belokki]

@SA2137 and then what happens?jackshit, noothing! your making the problem for yourself, i could care less about your name! Its easy to be a tough guy behind the keyboard...

[RosscoRussell]

lol

[SA2137]

im proof

[nabeelarshad99]

i would pay 1000 pounds to see him!

[Angelfully]

Dang people paid to see him train? Wow

[h0olaman]

haha and they were lucky! if i had the oppurtunity to go back in time, id even pay 100 bucks to see him train :-P

[dejaking100]

muhhamad ali ruined his record tbh

[whoodkid]

the greatest of all time there isn't a doubt. not just because of his boxing skills but because of his charisma and personality. Ali trenscened boxing he was bigger than boxing. the athlete of the century.boxing wouldn't have thrived so much if not for this brash fighter

[MKFAN119]

the only GOAT

[suthernboi86]

he is the Greatest ....if u dont think so if by chance.,....ill be happy to get in the ring with you....

[illertop10]

you crazy!! different areas mayn come on

[iamtman1]

I know more about Ali than you will ever know. That i can guarantee. And to the other guy. Jack Johnson? Ali would win that fight easily as well. Johnson's strength of defense and speed were good, but not anywhere near Ali's unmatched speed and defense of the mid 1960's. Johnson would have lost to Roy Jones.

[07504201963]

fair enough,but where exactly are the trains? i know more about trains than you will ever know. that i can guarentee!

[diablocodyify]

cualquier que pueda echar su oro en el ohio sea campeon por infinidad

[chicodelaoculta]

que carajo quisiste decir?????????

[daniel30009]

these comparisons are the most stupid thing to do first of all the style has changed a lot and back in the early 20th century they didnt care much about defense it was more of a bar fight and also the rules have changed in jack johnsons days there were things allowed you would get disqualified for today and also the training was very different so if you know so much about ali and boxing why did you never think about that you wannabe genius

[iamtman1]

hey daniel130009 i'm not the one who made the original Johnson-Ali comparison. I just responded to an absurd comment on this sight by someone who said Johnson would "slaughter" Ali. So shove your sarcasm up your brain/ass same thing in your case. And by the way Ali would have whipped Johnson.

[daniel30009]

"Johnson's strength of defense and speed were good, but not anywhere near Ali's unmatched speed and defense" thats what you said and if that aint a comparison i dont know what should be considered as one. i didnt see the other comment to be honest i just saw what you wrote when i saw the clip and i thought it was a funny thing to do because the style has changed and of course got better so you could be right but whats the point in comparing them just accept that they are legends and thats it

[Pascal1990Pascal1990]

Hell no!

I will Compare them! Muhammed ali would rip he's heart out and eat it!

FLOAT LIKE A BUTTERFLY STING LIKE A BEE!

[ultrakool]

Jack Johnson would have slaughtered him.

[jcwatch23]

Both of you are ridiculous and obviously know nothing about Tyson, Ali, or the great sport of boxing. Ali only took it easy when he spared, Tyson was verocious in training as well as in the ring but if the two of them fought it would be a long, tiring, back and forth battle and we will never know who would have one. To say that one would have EASILY beaten the other (no matter who you're talking about) just shows your stupidity and is why free forum commenting is so annoying.

[iamtman1]

shellbox 15 you must be kidding. Ali never tried to hurt an opponent in gym workouts. That's a well known fact. Ali in a real fight in his prime would have easily beaten Tyson. You should stick to WWF that's your depth of knowledge.

[Nathan2345678]

Ali in his prime vs tyson in his prime, i dont know i call about even.

[consta4891]

lol i agree iamtman1

[shelbox15]

just look at the difference between him and tyson training tyson would destroy ali by the 2n round (tyson in his prime

[dukstuf]

All one has to do is carefully watch the Ali-Williams fight to see the perfect machine Louis would have had to face if the two faced off in their primes.

Ali had better opponents than Louis ever faced in Frazier and Foreman, and was older than either of them, and well past his best, and still beat them.

Louis might take Ali in say, 1 out of 6 bouts, no one wins always, but I think Ali was too fast in hand and legs, too smart, too big and his jaw too hard for the mighty Louis.

[goombansc]

have you ever seen the fight films Clay lost to Leon tooth-less Spinks Bum with a capital B Jimmy young bum please the old time fighters were really tough not like the pansies you worship and as far as the personal attack you can keep that to yourself you don't have to agree or even like my opinions but in no way do you have the right to fight dirty Billy Conn was nowhere even near KO-ing LOUIS did you see the rematch same outcome Conn KO-ed

[goombansc]

Ali The greatest mouth of all time

[thegossoking]

yeah he was that too, you seem stubborn and ignorent so im not going to bother wasting anymore time trying to get u to admit the obvious but consider this, one name, billy conn, not as quick as ali, but was too elusive for louis, (got cocky and went for a k.o, only reason he got caught himself) and ali was faster of hand and foot had a granite chin and outweighed conn (and louis for that matter )by 10-20 pounds, ali was taller, had a longer reach and had more experience against better fighters

[goombansc]

Joe Louis is and will always be the greatest fighter in the history of the fight game. He also is the greatest American Hero.

[thegossoking]

joe louis was a great fighter and a great man but ali is the greatest boxer, louis's era was weak compared ali's , he never fought another alltime great, even by his own admission he was forced to plough through the "bum of the month" club", ali fought and defeated four of the best heavyweights ,most of whom he fought well past his prime, and head to head louis's stlye was taylor made for ali, all the power in the world wouldn't have helped against alis agility and handspeed,

decision win 4 ali

[goombansc]

Joe Louis was that great that even the best fighters looked like amatures he would have destroyed Joe Frasier, George Forman, M Ali &S Liston Watch the Films Joe Louis is the Greatest and he wasn't a draft dodger. Ali fought plenty of bums Joe Frasier beat his ass & so did Ken Norton.

[mrphilosophical]

yes joe louis is a true hero

[jontray87]

Damn, 1 dollar to see the best boxer train. DAMN. thats crazy. whut about today? $300?

[kpva0719]

There will never be another ali.......G.O.A.T

[demariojason]

man is like, he was from another world in this time,....ALI IS/WAS & WILL be STILL THE GREATEST......

[candaceparkersbigfan]

lord have mercy at 1:30 when he takes dat robe off im speechless

[mskittyof08]

i know how u feel lol :)

[kylecyclopdoddsmole]

Joe Louis was and still is the greatest

[fcbesian]

joe louis was the greatest until MUAMMAD ALI beat Sony Listen but louis was never that good like Muhammad Ali

[elyurita]

you keep idolatrising him, but the truth being an arrogant aggressive character he was and now begs for mercy... keep the crap!

[PantherDB7]

I still dont get how Ali cld pull those low elbow throw punches, no one cld give him right hand counters, in fact I dnt thing he fought many slick/smart fighters or counter punchers, maybe Ken Norton, the rest all pretty much did the same thing being on the offensive and giving Ali room to think.

[Zeramus24]

He fought Joe Bugner who was an excellent counter puncher.

[PantherDB7]

The fact remains that Ali took many shots proving he had a stone chin but be real, he fought guys who were all on the offensive giving him time to plan and think, Ken Norton didnt, gave him hell and hes a small heavyweight.

[gentorz]

He fought in the era where the boxers were 100x the fighters boxers are nowadays. And he did box with low elbow punches because he trained to fight lower opponents...he fought liston, frazier, norton, chuvalo, bugner who were smaller and he got into the habit of throwing low elbowed punches. But dont say he fought people who were stupid and not decent counter pounchers...because that is just being ignorant.

[danmaster90]

man me too i would have paid alot of money whatever it took to watch him train

[Proboxer08]

I'd pay hundreds of dollars to watch him train back then. lol

[Boeitnuniet]

i'd pay 10 dollar to watch him train if i was there

[makpak]

i dont think u know wat $10 were back then. lol.

[Boeitnuniet]

yea i know but still

why dont you go and watch a legend train

i think noone thought of him like that

later on he turned into a legend

[makpak]

ges ur rite id pay $20 DOLLAR (SAY IT IN A CHINES ACCENT) $20.LOL.

[shoedoctor99]

Muhammad Ali is an INSPIRATION to the WORLD.

[Reaper36a]

my brothers name is Muhammad Ali.

[mrp92a]

I think

[ST8SdotCOM]

More tax dollars down the drain!!!

Money would be better spent keeping our school swimming pools open here in TORONTO!!

Let the offspring of the well connected do

something else for a pay cheque!!!

[badamj2000]

As a train-enthusiast, I am confused.

[almostalwaysfirst]

i cried after reading this. good on you, sir

[badamj2000]

Im sorry thatI made you cry. It was only a joke: I may have been searching for train ( locomotive) clips....Have a nice day, I insist.

[Turkishengisizyon]

Go Ali Go !