Karajan - Mahler symphony no.5 (IV) - Adagietto. Sehr langsam (2 of 2)

[BytomGirl]

I love this sympony that tells me the story of the fight beteen the good and bad, the struggle and then the final compromise and peace between all... at least that is the way I see it... maybe I have to much imagination.....

[TheLasal]

Despair and genius is enough.....and a man, like him, you or us, nothing else on the skyline

[marjovaras]

God, life, death, eternity, don't fight!... everything passes trough Mahler' s soul...The only important is that he has a real inspiration... in a few minutes he did everything... Everything...

[mrlevina2]

The question is, why there are beings who can do this, the 7%; and why the rest of humanity is shit who will never be able to comprehend any of it -whether in music, literature, philosophy, spirit or science. Where did they come from? How to explain such a massive gap?

[oldschooldrumcorps]

Thank you for posting this, I am new to Mahler, and now I have another composer to add to my list of "Orchestral music I want to hear live before I die". I was feeling a bit stressed, which led me to youtube to find some relaxing music, and by chance, I selected the first and second parts of Mahler's symphony No.5. that you posted. I feel soo much better now. Thanks for expanding my experience of truly beautiful and transformational music.

[HatingFan]

Awesome top comments :))

[blondbonitachica]

@thestranger11

WE didn't do it... Mahler did. hah

[voce29]

What a trip!!!

[yruegg]

tant de paix et de profondeur....

[ganstagirla]

Y de verdad dirije Karajan? Que yo sepa Von Karajan no dirigina nada de Mahler, ni menos grabarlo. ¿porqué? no lo se.

[fvargascano]

@ganstagirla

Karajan grabó la 4a, 5a, 6a y 9a de Mahler además de "La Canción de la Tierra"!!

[lokopreocupao]

Aquí las palabras son innecesarias.

[JesusWeeps420]

god listens to gangsta rap

[LordMgls]

@JesusWeeps420 rofl

[kitchenaut]

Funny how people say it was God who is behind this music. By that logic, did he also inspire the tortures of the inquistions, and destruction of the library at Alexandria? Don't be so transparently selective in what you assign to divine inspiration. Another example of the Godly hijacking secular works for their limited concepot of a creator. Pathetic.

[bpcorpful]

God show his power through the Nature and also through Man who's recently MAHLER...Good piece of music it's seems to be a philosophic piece of music...

[manriquefigueroa80]

This melody is so generous, that thinking so positively towards it would inevitably take away any natural content.

[TheMusic1ful]

This is what love sounds like.

[45lacosta]

This is th first time I have heard this. Makes me feel sad and calm all at the same time. Wonderful!

[Kalmyel]

You know a piece of music is good when people are debating whether God or Man composed it.

[freshhh1994]

@Kalmyel

Mahler was both Man and God. A true demon amongst men.

[spacecommander12]

@Kalmyel did you ever stop to realize that gustav mahler... is god?

[JesusWeeps420]

@spacecommander12 As Jesus, you know, god's son, I have to disagree, the correct answer would be Rosanne Barr

[sw71195]

@spacecommander12 very true

[ttomace]

God made man made music is made by God!!!!!!!!!

[pietrovaldes]

Excelent performance

[999a0s]

it's a testament to the stupidity of the youtube community when one guy says "divine music", and now there are 55 idiotic comments debating whether god exists.

[margiepeace08]

@EllyMcCormack "Sounds like a man-made God" - You are true there, religion has indeed created graven images of God, and people have indeed imposed their own human emotions onto God, such as pride and vanity, who is beyond such emotions. As I have said, when a person describes God they describe God through the filter of their human consciousness.

[EllyMcCormack]

@margiepeace08 I think you're deluded. I think you'll never be able to wake up, and that's disappointing... but thankfully, not my problem. Being religious isn't about how devout you are, it's dependent on your ability to delude yourself in the face of facts and your own flawed beliefs.

[margiepeace08]

@EllyMcCormack You didn't even reply to what I said, who is the one who is asleep?

[EllyMcCormack]

@margiepeace08 Like I said, not my problem.

[margiepeace08]

@EllyMcCormack -_-

[margiepeace08]

...of God, otherwise you rely on interpretations of God, which are never completely accurate.

Anyway, although I have not so far in my lifetime had a direct experience of the Being of God, I experience the Presence of God indirectly in other people, in the world we live in, in music such as this.

You see, God is not a being in the sky, but something that is ever-present, in you and I.

That is why I posted those quotes like “The Kingdom of God is within you”.

[thestranger11]

@margiepeace08 Goodluck with your journey then. I hope that you have faith to the point the delusion manifests itself into something profoundly real such as a calling or vision. Hypnotists do it all the time

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 Hypnosis? People make their own choices with their own free will, and I can assure you that I make my own choices as well.

[thestranger11]

@margiepeace08 Never said you didn't have free will but I'll assume you thought I did when mentioning hypnosis. Which involves you being in complete control, not the hypnotist. It is your choice to believe in god, renouncing what seems to me, anything else that begs to differ. Is that your own stubborness? or gods will inside you, which kinda reduces free will anyway. But hey you're being guided to heaven at the end of it. Somewhere better where you can be right for eternity.

[thestranger11]

@margiepeace08 And I'll be in the ground, rotting. Which is a fact that's fine by me. No soul burning in hell. Or whatever it is people believe will happen to non believers. What brings me peace about the eerie looming of death is that the world will carry on! Perhaps not for the better if religion persists. See you soon

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 Well, I don't personally believe atheists burn in hell... I don't believe in a literal hell... (I believe in reincarnation to be honest, something that was taken out of the Bible for political reasons and that Jesus actually taught...)

[EllyMcCormack]

@margiepeace08 Your comments have taught me the meaning of 'faithhead' - u sound like an addict. Trying to convince you that God doesn't exist, for you, means giving up a crutch, for us, seems like we're trying to convince a smack head to come off the gear. You seem to have, or rather, limit yourself to a limited understanding of things. You have to reduce your own ability to think, to hold onto a primitive belief, in an ever-advancing age of reason. Suppress that which makes us great, our mind

[margiepeace08]

@EllyMcCormack "Trying to convince you that God doesn't exist" - LOL. Seeing as I was simply having a conversation and sharing views on life with no mission to convert anyone this shows you to be the closed-minded one.

"Limited Understanding of things" - There are mental boxes in every area of society, religion AND science included.

[margiepeace08]

...for sure unless you experience it yourself. It is possible for you to have such an experience, but if you do not want to have one you will not have one, as God respects the law of Free Will.

Personally I have not had a direct experience of the Being of God, but I have always had an inner knowing that God exists--I think what people call faith. Many people have faith in God but I do not think that should be an end in itself. I think faith should be a stepping-stone to a direct experience...

[margiepeace08]

No, I wouldn't consider myself religious, I don't go to church. I went to a Catholic high school and these parts of the Bible were ignored. In fact, I don't think any of my classmates actually read the Bible unless they were told to. But to me, the Bible is much more enlightening than church explanations.

I wanted to give some quotes from the Bible that most people don't know, it matters to me that I can share them and let people think for themselves, that's all.

[margiepeace08]

(Maybe spiritual beings would be a better way to say it, I don't know about divine, depends on the person lol)

[margiepeace08]

*I meant divine, not diving, lol

[thestranger11]

Just to this margiepeace person, reading between the lines of any vague proverbial esoteric "stuff" you'll find what you are looking for. Look hard enough and you'll create it. That doesn't mean it's there. Or true.

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 You don't have to read between the lines in that case actually, the lines I quoted were quite obvious. The whole Bible is proverbial and esoteric, it's a little hard for modern people to make sense of because of that, but if you try and put yourself in the symbolic and proverbial mindset that people had back then it becomes easier. It doesn't matter to me if you think it's true or not, people believe what they want to believe so that’s a lost cause already *laugh*

[thestranger11]

@margiepeace08 I think it does matter, atleast to you.Its a lovely song. And Mahler himself may have been religious alas I am not and you are, no? I am not devoid of "spirituality" however - I have a whole aesthetic love for that world. The mysticism and morality. Tho the people that dwell in that world, I tend to dislike as they are people who "almost drive off the road" when they hear great music or god. Or people who quote their vague open ended bible yet disregard other more hostile parts.

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 I agree that there are many hostile parts in the Bible, but people's understanding of God grew over time, and this is reflected in the Bible, which is written over many many many years. The Old Testament has many more hostile descriptions of God than the New Testament. The Old Testament has more value as a historical record than spiritual teachings, since the spiritual teachings in the Old Testament are very outdated. (continued...)

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 When you look at human beings, you see that they have progressed in many ways over many years, and this is also true in their understanding of the spiritual side of life. When you go back in history, you see that, for example, parents often motivated their children to behave through the use of fear, and if you go back even farther, you can see that the entire world view of people was based on fear. So, how could people from this age understand spiritual teachings based on love?

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 (continued...) They couldn't, and this is why there are many hostile descriptions of God from the Old Testament based on fear. Eventually, however, people's understanding of the spiritual side of life progressed, and people's world view was no longer based entirely on fear, so this is why we have passages from the New Testament based on love. People were now open to this type of spiritual teaching.

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 However, the Bible is of course not the only source of spiritual teachings, and there are many more in today's world that are more suited to modern people (not to say they're all true). And also, our understanding of the spiritual side of life has progressed since the time of Jesus and the New Testament.

I have no idea if Mahler was religious but his music is beautiful <3.

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 I guess it's kind of silly to have this conversation with an atheist...

er, anyway, that's my view of it.

[thestranger11]

@margiepeace08 I don't think it's silly. It should reaffirm, challenge or dare I suggest quesiton your beliefs by hearing facts over fiction. An intellectual discussion, debate whatever you wish to call it :) Though your length reply only proves that humans interpret god. That god doesn't exist, that we made him up. based on primitive fear, so god is fearsome. We EVOLVE and believe more in the progression of peace and love, therefor god turns into a peaceful, loving "being". However...

[thestranger11]

@margiepeace08 fear is still a tool used today. Always will be. It's how politicians peddle policies, it's how oxford street and madison avenue tries to sell us things we don't need. Fear of attack, fear of black, white, yellow. Fear of gay, straight. Fear of god. Fear of the world ending by spritual, supernatural or scientific reasoning. You can also say my certitude that there is NO god is the same religious certitude that faithful folk have. Alas I have more evidence, scienftifically than...

[thestranger11]

@margiepeace08 than a religious person. It wouldnt be scientific to say whole heartedly there is NO god. We cannot prove or disprove. Neither can you. You only have your faith, we have facts which say its more than likely there isnt a god. Alas I cannot prove there is fairies or flying teapots outside our earths atmosphere, but Im pretty sure that there is not.

[thestranger11]

@margiepeace08 thanks for the chat, its been fun!

[thestranger11]

@margiepeace08 thanks for the chat, its been fun!

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 That humans interpret God does not mean that God does not exist. People have had experiences of the Presence of God, called mystical or spiritual experiences (also near-death experiences), but they are interpreted through the filter of that person’s consciousness. Thus, such experiences differ. It is also impossible to accurately describe such an experience, though people have attempted. In any case, it is impossible to know the existence of anything of anything (continued...)

[EllyMcCormack]

@margiepeace08 No one can be sure if there isn't a Creator that started the universe. But Science has proven that the Hebrew God, and any other that wild claims were attributed to, does not exist.

[margiepeace08]

@thestranger11 I didn't mean to delete my comment in the first place, here it is in answer to "Not God, just us"

Lines of Jesus from the Bible:

"I of my own self can do nothing"

"It is not I who am the doer, it is the father within me who is the doer"

“Those that believe on me these things they will do, and greater things than I have done they will do”

“The Kingdom of God is within you”

“Ye are gods”

God acts through us, the Kingdom of God is within us, God is in us, we are diving beings, etc

[Wintterson]

So beautiful.

Why people keeps bringing God into the question baffles me, the Human Mind can produce marvels by itself. There's no evolution possible until we stop using God as the easy answer to anything we don't understand.

[Gargantupimp]

lol at :20 tristan+isolde prelude :59 Parsifal not very good and the parts that do sparkle are lifted directly from wagner. why is this garbage composer so popular? only decent thing about this work is the orchestration in the begining

[Vivaldifriend]

Thank you for posting it.

Great Music.

[carlotta306]

great music ,thanks

[jopeon]

beautiful music , god must be shedding tears listening to this

[khisanth75]

Just started getting into Mahler, this is so beautiful and relaxing.

[thestranger11]

No god, just us.. Why not take credit as humans for this music? Be proud we did it, not god. or influence of god

[legitsteak]

@thestranger11 word

[innerdeth]

@thestranger11 well, say that to Mahler

[thestranger11]

@innerdeth Well obviously I can't... he's dead.

[Vivaldifriend]

@thestranger11 it's human I agree, noone want to take away credits to this wonder,

a human wonder... but there's divine in every single human if we are able to see it...this music is divine humanity.Happy week-end.

[thestranger11]

@Vivaldifriend Nicely said :) Enjoy

[Jazsngr]

@thestranger11 My dear, God gives us our talent and Mr. Mahler clearly was given just that. When I first heard this piece I almost went off the road as I was driving to work.  I find it achingly beautiful.

[giovmari]

@thestranger11 and He is proud of this beauty, we are His creatures

[thestranger11]

@giovmari God is a man? He feels pride and vanity? How do you know this, how do you know any of it? Because someone told you. A liar indeed.

[EllyMcCormack]

@giovmari God can be proud and vane? Doesn't sound like a God to me. Sounds like a man-made God, otherwise known as, business as usual in the big business of Religion. 

[gnatural]

@thestranger11 you could not breath,speak,hear or even appreciate this beautiful music if not for the Mercy of God in your life. I speak of the God of the Bible.

[thestranger11]

@gnatural Then you speak bollocks I'm afraid. Take care mam. or man.

[mahler151]

@thestranger11

We did it? MAHLER did it.

[thestranger11]

@mahler151 We as humans should be proud. Mahler was human. Though it's easy to hear that he'd seem anything but.

[Gaarakundo]

@thestranger11

sorry, I don't believe a man can do this.

[willistara]

this is ample proof of the degree Mahler's soul is a "singing soul", thoroughly saturated with divine melody....

[vmarguerite28]

divine music

[JohnEBPiano]

I think there is a God.