Motorcycle Practical Test Example Part 2 (Narrated) LEARN2RIDE

[DidilyCOD]

Half of the life savers in this vid are pointless like doing one when there is a parked car he does about 5 when it is just common sense that there is no car coming to overtake him wtf i been riding for 2 years and done over 20,000 miles on the road and it is pure 100% common sense to ride bikes without any accident LOL

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@DidilyCOD have a look at this video for a further explanation if you don't understand: Just search for 'OSMPSL routine LEARN2RIDE NI'

thanks for commenting :-)

[gwl1983]

Do you have to indicate right when passing parked cars?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@gwl1983 'whiteheartmovies' asked same question below: it depends on what your local examiner requires. If your instructor in your area advises you not to indicate while passing parked vehicles then take his/her advice- these videos are simply for those preparing for a Northern Ireland MC test & there can be slight differences from region to region. On my other vids some viewers in the UK have said that it wasn't required on their test but then again others have passed when indicating.

[suedog100]

What is the speed limit through residential areas and housing estates if there are no signs letting you know? would it be 20 or 30mph? and would an examiner fail you for going to slow in these areas?

Thanks

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@suedog100 where lamp posts are less than 183-185 metres apart, the speed limit is 30mph. Most streets have a speed limit of 30mph where lamp posts are installed and there is no other speed limit sign indicating otherwise (eg 40mph).

Outside primary schools at busy times for example, the term, "Twenty's Plenty" springs to mind- especially if there are amber flashing lights and signs.

Remember, the speed limit is not a target: safety is the over-riding factor for you and vulnerable road users.

[Jakeoffline]

this is derry , ireland my home town haha was not expecting that haha

[DanBarns92]

Do you have to put the bike into neutral when stationary at traffic lights? I usualy cover the rear break, and keep the bike in gear.

[pomplumber]

on those bumps i always choose to go in between

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@pomplumber there was a lot of discussion and diagrams about this very same topic on the learn2ride Facebook page very recently. If you are on Facebook, just search for 'learn2ride' and feel free to look at the Notes section ;-)

[pomplumber]

@learn2rideVIDEOS Please ignore my ramblings,i ride a zx6r so my bottom gets hammered on the tiniest of bumps.The videos look well put together.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@jaspsoftware Glad to hear it and congratulations

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@jaspsoftware Hasn't your instructor covered it with you before Mod 2? (The night before your test isn't the time to start going over it). At least think about it like this: the standard procedure everyone has heard of is 'MSM' (or 'Mirror Signal Manoeuvre) but mirror checks alone are not sufficient on a motorcycle so the M is substituted with O (Observation incl. lifesavers). The S for signal remains the same & the final M (Manoeuvre) equates to PSL (Position, Speed, Look) so it is: 'OSM/ PSL'.

[badman2504]

Thanks for the video, given me some good pointers towards my bike test which I hope to be passing soon and first time, otherwise my poor Yamaha FZ6 is gunna be stuck in the garage with nowhere to go :(

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@badman2504 glad to help. Why not have a look at the other practical test examples? Good luck with your test

[scott1231000]

How come you have to keep your hands off the controls and be in neutral at red lights ? I normally stay in gear with the clutch held in and my foot on the rear brake . Would i fail because of this ?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@scott1231000 Traffic Lights: jumping the lights, trying to stop for an amber light (when you really should have carried on) and not proceeding after you have crossed the line (but the lights have changed from green) are the main serious faults that could cause you to fail in this area.

A few seconds with the bike in gear may be acceptable, however there is no reason for example, at traffic lights at a crossroads where you will wait for a minute or two, to keep the bike in gear.

[ZhGBullet]

thx for the great walk through. Been shown and told this but great to be able to go through it when at home.

thx again

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@ZhGBullet You're very welcome and why not have a look at the other practical test examples?

[ZhGBullet]

@learn2rideVIDEOS I would like to thank you again for this video as it help me a huge amout :)

and i have now passed my test first go out

so thanks again i would say to any 1 watching this take it in it is all good stuff and works to make you think what you are doing as you are riding

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@ZhGBullet thank you very much and ride safe

[ZhGBullet]

@learn2rideVIDEOS I would like to thank you again for this video as it help me a huge amout :)

and i have now passed my test first go out

so thanks again, i would say to any 1 watching this take it in it is all good stuff and works to make you think what you are doing as you are riding

[THEJSEED]

Great help to me! passed first time!!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@THEJSEED excellent! very glad to have been of help

ride safe

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@jaspsoftware thanks and you're welcome

[whiteheartmovies]

My CBT trainer told me NOT to indicate when moving out to pass parked cars/busses. Is that wrong?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@whiteheartmovies it depends on what your local examiner requires. If your instructor in your area advises you not to indicate while passing parked vehicles then take his/her advice- these videos are simply for those preparing for a Northern Ireland MC test and there can be slight differences from region to region

[whiteheartmovies]

@learn2rideVIDEOS Thanks for the info, and thanks for posting your videos. They're appreciated.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@whiteheartmovies thanks. It really depends on the MC test in question: a standard test requires signals almost 'by rote' (OSM/PSL), IAM requires signals as outlined in Roadcraft & similarly, RoSPA does too (if necessary according to the IPSGA System) & DIAmond Advanced/Special is along the same lines.

As I point out in all my videos, find a trainer in your area & listen to what they recommend as requirements differ somewhat slightly from region to region- even from examiner to examiner! (HTH)

[bikertom14]

Haha are you serious? 45mph on a NSL!? LOOOOL fuck that.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

that's what the law requires in N.I. for learner motorcyclists bikertom14

[bikertom14]

@learn2rideVIDEOS Oh right, here in england i think im allowed to get my bike up to top speed in NSL :) Phew! Cheers

[letmein2121]

National speed limit 45mph?  Ay?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@letmein2121 learner motorcyclists are restricted to 45mph on an NSL.

surely you know that LOL?!

[TheDoodleSoup]

ive been doing lessons and ive been told, on entering a round about to do a left life saver not a right... also not to indicate around parked cars. is that just because this vid is from 08 ?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@TheDoodleSoup where have you been doing lessons? UK or N.I? Also with whom? At which approach does the left lifesaver apply? lane one or two? turning left or right? as for not indicating around parked cars- please explain why when changing position that you would not indicate/give a signal for the benefit of other road users? thanks

[sparkster0707]

really helpful video think of doing my full test soon nearly been on cbt for 1 year too soon ?

[tonicdan]

i have just done my cbt and im still a bit nervous of going on the road,but this video has been the most informative and helpful i have found cheers

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@tonicdan you're welcome mate and good luck with your test. any questions, ask away

[N1cko18]

Just passed mod 2 with 1 minor! I owe a lot of that to these videos so cheers!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

You're very welcome mate! congrats and well done!

please, should you get the chance, join an advanced rider training group such as your local IAM or RoSPA and 'really' learn how to handle your machine, read the road, assess the weather, become more aware of other road users and see your riding improve in leaps and bounds!

Congrats and well done, i'm glad to have been of help

[bigvid1122]

Hi I was just thinking when you stop at lights and you put the bike in to neutral when you pull of can you put your right foot down to change up into first thanks

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

Left you mean? yes you can (known as 'The Hendon Shuffle')

many riders prefer to keep the bike in gear in case something should happen that would involve a rear-end shunt, others say that either left or right foot down is acceptable too

but for a standard motorcycle test and to avoid accruing faults in the 'Move Away Safely' box on your examiner's sheet, simply move away with the right foot covering your rear brake- do not drag your feet either, too many riders ride away with both feet down..

[MageKing289IsBack]

When I did my test, I always left the bike in first gear with my left foot down and my right foot hovering over the brake. It's the most sufficient way of stopping and starting and like learn2rideVIDEOS said, it keeps you prepared for things like rear end shunts and collisions from in front of you (believe me it happens).

[Gizmorun]

its easier to keep your right down and left up in reality, but best to do it their way for the test

[msindxtreme]

I have passed my mod1 just by observing youtube vids. I am glad I saved a lot of money by not going to a trainging school and bought a bike instead.

I have a question though, about mod2.

do i have to signal before overtaking stationary vehicle even if there's no traffic behind??

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

Glad to hear it

i recommend going to an instructor for your road test however as these videos are just guidelines of what to expect & there are differences between examiners, test routes, traffic & weather conditions,etc.

as for the signalling question: ordinarily, if there are no vehicles that will benefit from any information you give (indicators, brake lights, headlights, horn etc) there is little point in giving that information. however on your test, yes, do signal to change position

[gazzawazza1000]

Thanks mate passed the bike test in downpatrick....didn't take any lessons and just watched your videos,so passed 2nd time,in sept.

had no internet access until now.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

excellent stuff and well done mate! i'm really glad the vids helped.

i'll be doing post test vids soon enough now i've got both the IAM and RoSPA Gold awards so keep an eye out for some advanced tips and techniques not just for those tests but to make you smoother and safer

well done gazzawazza1000!

[187Premises]

My instructor told me off for riding over them little speed bumps. Also I got told off for using signals for lane changing because it might confuse drivers wanting to pull out at junctions.

I have listened to three different instructors now and all seems to have different ways of doing things... This scares me because my final test is soon (16th) and how my examiner for that test wants it done is what matters.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

confuse drivers at junctions?

so what about a vehicle behind who sees a learner motorcyclist in front on a 2-3 lane carriageway & decides to overtake you? what other signal CAN you give? apart from using your indicators?

did your instructor tell you to use arm signals by any chance?

as most riders will tell you, drivers will STILL try to force their way past -even if you perform your lifesavers AND indicate for them..

taking, using & giving correct signals is VITALLY important on a bike!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

personally i tend to agree with you- but for a standard test this is a good target to aim for simply to show the examiner you are taking effective all round observation and checking before moving.

advanced training usually focusses more on mirror checks and performing a lifesaver if in any doubt so i stress that this particular video is only for standard test training (N.I)

thanks for commenting

[gazzawazza1000]

Hi

thanxs for your videos, they were really helpful.

I've been riding 4mnts now with only the last week using your videos for instruction.

i nearly pass the test in Newry, after watching your videos...failed to cancel indicator & had to be told to do so by the examiner,also failed because of not giving enough clearance off park cars on duel street,(1.5 ft from centre line ..but should have went into right lane)doh!

Have booked it again for Downpatrick in 3 weeks

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

glad they helped in some way, good luck with the test and let us know how you get on

[gazzawazza1000]

thanks for the time & effort for vids.

As for the lifesavers a bit excessive,but seems to be a requirement,and i was very thankful of them during the test,i was about to change lanes and a dick was speeding through traffic and without them i would have been clean,even the examiner comment how good my awareness was thanks to your videos.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

you're welcome & thanks once again

as for lifesavers, don't neglect them post-test (as many bikers do) they are a requirement for the standard test, yes, but fundamentally important to bike-riding for your OWN safety- they're called 'lifesavers' for a reason after all!

when in ANY doubt about changing position, changing lanes as you say, perhaps on a motorway for example, a lifesaver MUST be done.

the number you do post-test may diminish, but still do them IF IN ANY DOUBT changing position!

[Plutoniummatt]

I understand the importance of lifesavers n all....but this just seems excessive

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

thank you and well done

[Solarfactor]

I'm a pupil of David's (Learn-2-Ride's) and I passed my test today first time with only two minor faults. The reason why I passed is really quite simple: I listened to what my instructor said at all times, saw the need to take the lessons and improve, put in the practice, and did the homework (watching these vids). You will not improve until you recognise the need to improve in the first place! The mock road tests we did showed me that.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

i totally agree & thanks for commenting.

there are many good-quality riding videos on youtube aimed at road safety- it's just a shame it's down to individuals who go out of their way to make & post them for the greater good of others, whilst all the time you have many agencies crying 'copyright infringement' for their own safety related videos..

road safety is not about profit, its about educating others!

& you do get the odd troll now and again too on youtube but who cares about them LOL?!

[Solarfactor]

Where else do you get good info like this without paying for it?

While I would say videos are no subsitute for an instructor, these are a great reference to hammer the message home.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

speak to a local instructor in your area.

in N.I. there is no CBT or DAS so all pupils must learn and pass their test on a 125cc machine.

also need to pass a theory test, manoeuvres test and road test before gaining a full licence

Uk has the option of DAS- same principle except you do the test on a larger bike then can ride any size machine afterwards

have a look at the direct gov website for more info

[JustTheRoad]

These vids are all good! I have a question. What do i need to to to get a full uk motorcycle licence? When im 17 next month i am going to do my cbt on a 125. But the problem is i dont know what to do after this. Also because i dont want to be riding a 125. I want to drive a bigger bike. Please let me know!!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

thanks

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

i tend to agree with you- there are aspects of the standard DOE/DSA test that i don't agree with too, but this is a good way to pass if you take the test in northern ireland.

anyway, post test training negates most of these lifesavers using the mirrors more and only checking the blind spot with a lifesaver if in any doubt changing position. the standard test makes you ride like a robot, post test training is more of an artform in my mind and much more effective for safety and progress

[beabertbiker]

Over speed bumps! :-O i was taught by two schools not too, ive noticed different schools teach diffent techniques. Great videos mate!

[hayagreeva]

I think the amount of right hand life savers are a bit too many, specially while turning left and on mini roundabouts it can be dangerous if u loose concentration on mini roundabouts doing too many life savers ? maybe its different in Northern Ireland but they dont ask us todo a right hand life saver while turning left in England, also on mini roundabouts we check for vehicles coming on the right but dont actually perform right life saver while on the roundabout. Anyway good video !

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

i agree- but in N.I. riders are required to check right before turning left.

the procedures shown here are usually adopted in the N.I road test

good points and it re-iterates what i always say:

don't take any videos for granted regardless of the region you are taking your test in!

always invest in a local motorcycle instructor to show you the ins and outs for your particular country/ area!

[philbertfwog]

I think this will be really helpful to a lot of people.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

fingers crossed it will be- it is just to demystify the test itself and hopefully dispel a few myths.

remember this is just an example and not meant to replace training with an instructor as the test differs in various countries and even from examiner to examiner

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

as for the red light jumpers, yes i do- after an idiot recently did just that in a BMW on a red light. (it is not highlighted here on this particular video however, so thanks for raising that point.)

[hornetobiker]

About the time 5.30 you mentioned that you should travel at 45mph in NSL's. Did you mean when in a 40 limit as you were in one at the time?

Also, do you recommend to pupils that they check left and right at junctions when they have green to check for red light jumpers, moving off or running through?

Peace and Luck mate.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

i was in a 30mph zone actually at that time horneto when i mentioned 45mph on the NSL (around 5.30 as you mentioned). check 5.22 on the video for the 30mph sign on the nearside.

40mph zone was earlier (5.02)& was only a temporary speed restriction at that time due to construction work- hence all the construction signs & cones etc: visible at 4.48,4.59,5.05,5.08,5.10,5.11 & 5.12-5.22 respectively.

normally NSL on that stretch so was simply reminding pupils to keep an eye on limits when riding