HIGH STAKES POKER 919 K POT SEASON 5 DAWN VS GREENSTEIN!!!!!! AMAZING!!

[f1oRlicious]

lol u nerd .. whats 46 % to 50 % .. in poker u make so much bigger mistakes than a 5 % wrong calculation ... this is the same thing as when some fish pay attention at "poker tells" but they cant fold trips on a 1 to a flush board...

[OUSOONERSFTW]

Hey Mr. Dyslexia, fix the title...

[cenafreeko]

Can you explain how is it 50-50 on the flop? Dwan outs are: 8 spades + KK+QQ = 12 outs. The rest is Greenstein's. So how does it make 50%?

[ecoke38]

@cenafreeko For a rough guess on the odds you will "make your hand" or in this case win the hand, you take your outs and multiply them by 2 and take that percent if it's on the turn and theres only the river to come. If youre calculating your odds of making your hand or making the winning hand by the river on the flop you take your outs and multiply them by 4 and thats your percent. So in this case Dwan had twelve outs for ~48% which is very close to the 50% you see displayed on the video.

[cenafreeko]

@ecoke38 Thank You very much!

[PojebanyMany]

@ecoke38 i guess u were reading Phil Gordons book and took it to serious. Ur bit right but not completly. The way you counting ur odds is good but not accurate cose it does work only for 10 or less outs. Imagine 77 vs KQ of spades with J1010 with two spades flop. U have 9 spades + 3 aces and 3 nines for straight + 3 kings and 3 queens for pair thats beat 77 and three jacks to make two pair tens and jacks with king kicker. Thats 24 outs multiply by 4 woud give ya 96% chances on flop and 48% turn.

[ecoke38]

@PojebanyMany The math behind it is perfect assuming all of your outs are there and your opponent can't improve. 9 Spades, FOUR Aces and nines, 3 kings, 3 queens, 3 jacks. 26 outs, not 24. So we'll say there are 9 people at your table (including you and your oppenent) and the other 7 all folded 8 high or worse and had no spades. -1 card for the burn card, - 3 for the flop. -18 cards in play. 22 cards gone from the deck before the turn and river. 30 left, 26 improve your hand. Run 26/30 twice...

[PojebanyMany]

@ecoke38 stop ! If u count 9 spades u have only extra 3 nines and 3 aces couse ace of spades and 9 of spades is allready counted into 9 spades. Then it is actually 8 spades not 9 couse 7 of spades woud give guy sevens full. SO basicly u have 8 spades, 3 aces, 3 nines, 3 jacks, 3 queens and 3 kings. Thats 23 outs total. But not 23 out of 30. U cant count folded and burned cards couse u dont know what they are. So it is 23/48 knowing ur and ur opponent hand.

[ecoke38]

@PojebanyMany And even at that it's better than 26/30 on the river, because were also assuming the burn cards arent any of your outs either. So you wiff the turn, bummer. 1 more card gone for the second burn card, and 1 more for the turn card you missed. You're 26/28 on the river. It's more like you're dodging 4 outs and then 2. It's unlikely youll miss both streets. So, in this EXTREMELY unlikely scenario where all your outs are intact and your opponent cant improve you're ~96% to improve (win)

[PojebanyMany]

@ecoke38 So if u sayin ur on 9 ppl table and lets say u go to the flop heads-up and u counting 14 cards in the muck that others folded plus 3 burn cards that coud be actually all ur outs. So count it negative way to ur hand u will have only 7 outs left in the deck ! Thats makes u worse then 2-1 underdog. So its 23/48 :)

[PojebanyMany]

@ecoke38 so basicly to be 96% favour on flop u need to flop set over set and have ur opponent crushed to one outer. Problems with odds they show at tv shows are that in some of them they are counting cards that other players folded and in other they show real odds that doesnt include folded hands. We can see that Barry has spade and eastegate folded king so its two outs less, but they definitely didnt count those cards. In real it will be around 43 to 57...

[budweiser4]

@cenafreeko take you home cards and set a board just like this. Then run the turn and river 5000 times and you will see why it is 50-50

[PojebanyMany]

@cenafreeko ur right is not a coinflip, its around 43/44% to 56/57% ... Coinflip on the flop woud be if dwan had 15 or more outs on the flop. flop like QJ9 with two spades woud be a coinflip

[Go0dWill]

If I was him, I would deal it one time to!

[Taroxus]

@074Jesse so you're lucky to win those... isn't that luck? he played well but hitting is luck :)

[mau571]

trolled by a pair of A's

[PokerProFRO]

No you don't, @moonomatic.... In the context of the season... Barry was a douche in a previous pot vs. Dwan... That's why Tom was a bit more unwilling to deal the 2nd time around, to be honest... Surprised he even offered him the running-it-twice option..

[Taroxus]

@PokerProFRO no barry wanted to be the first player over a million in high stakes poker, that's why he didn't want to run it twice, if they took 200k back he could still be over a million

[moonomatic]

You just gotta feel for Greenstein.

[skearo75013]

I wonder what card can come on the turn to split the pot

I think none

[feanor687]

@skearo75013 they cant split if they run it once but usually they run it twice or even three times...

[preg13]

He's a great player, but it does seem like durrr gets quite lucky on hsp

[mr2gti]

Who's "Dawn"? lol

[ANGELOCAPIVARI]

one day I play poker and i'm lose

[johnsmith7490]

Well you can always play webcam poker and not worry about these rigged infested sites that are stealing your money. Ive been playing on pokerview! There is nothing like it I will never go back!!

[key2thabanks]

watch?v=7qvMnLvPxJ0 <<-------------The next wsop champion ??

[twominutewarning]

I think Barry and Aces have a very very bad relationships

[m1dnightshow]

so sick after flop ........playing a $900,000 coin flip

[Nick410s]

Seems like a crumby play by Dwan. He was way behind before the flop, and only 50/50 on the flop. Great result, obviously, but I'm unimpressed with the play.

[postflopper]

@Nick410s it's a good hand to try and crack AA with. % doesnt matter before the flop when they are as deep as they are in this game. 50-50 on the flop, he's pretty much committed after that 28k bet on the flop and call preflop. cant give up that juice when it's a 50-50. that'll be like throwing 28+15=43k into the bin.

[Nick410s]

@postflopper Yea the play was fine on the flop, but I'm not sure about calling a raise and reraise with KQs. You have a chance to crack aces, but you're not going to get aces to move all in on a flop with all spades, two kings or two queens, or even one king and one queen. If Barry has a lower pair such as JJ or TT, he's not going all in with overcards present. I understand there are implied odds, but I don't think the math added up here for Dwan until he had put in 15k with the worst hand.

[jakejumpover]

@Nick410s He doesnt know that he has AA its the last three players to act in pre flop rotation so ranges are wider. The opener could have air and raiser could be raising a wide range because of that.

[viclam]

dwan is best player ever..... ivey doesn't come close...ivey got no balls

[lolh4x]

@viclam Dwan's style is EXTREMELY hard to play against, and it's not generic at all. I think Ivey plays a little more generic, but the way Dwan plays is risk/reward. Sure he may lose MONSTER pots, but it builds his reputation for having a wide range of hands, and when Dwan has a sick hand he gets insane value on it. When you add that on top his overall generic poker playing it's extremely tough to combat

[postflopper]

@viclam are u insane? IVEY has no balls? then u have no concept of what balls are.

[dh144498]

@viclam takes one to know one HAHAHAHAH

[imaoddboy]

By the Dwan's early light.

[donkpro]

dwan had more outs than a bad relationship... omg, what a pot!

[DeverPSV]

@074Jesse

het got lucky with that flop

[avaiae]

@DeverPSV That makes no sense. How do you get lucky with a flop? Sure I know you mean he got a good flop, but that's not lucky at all. Lucky is catching a card when all in. The flop almost never determines if you win the pot or not, it's not like he had 100k in preflop.

[DeverPSV]

@avaiae

Do you know the % AA vs KQ suited preflop??

Now figure out the % AA vs KQ suited after a 42Q flop with 2 spades like the KQ is??  Thats getting lucky on the flop

[KINTSARRRRR]

@DeverPSV but its not like toms gonna put in 500k without getting lucky on the flop..

[avaiae]

@DeverPSV Dude you don't get what I'm saying. First of all, the flop didn't guarantee him to win, he was still behind. Second of all, Poker is about skill (IE tricking and or outplaying your opponent) until you are all in against your opponent. I mean, the guy with KQ could still fold, getting lucky means he catches the best hand when all in. So what I am saying is, he didn't get lucky because he wasn't all in, and he wasn't ahead on the flop, he was still behind and he had chips.

[DeverPSV]

@avaiae You are making no sense at all. But its ok, keep playing tour game

[mamizemoshe]

gotta love the fact that dwan refuses to take 200K bak

[EncorexH2]

Does any one know what season and episode was this?

[Partizan1379]

@EncorexH2

season 5, ep 4 or 5

greenstein had 750k profit b4 the hand started!

i would call on flop & fold on turn, but who cares? lol

[krata77]

dwan is a lucky donk

[mmnmnmmmnmmn]

@ThAWaNKr Huh? you comment implys you figured they have 100 million, with no mention of 20ish, but w/e no harm no foul.

[mmnmnmmmnmmn]

@ThAWaNKr None of them have 100m lol, look on celebernetworth, google that, like 20ish mil.. but not 100, just sayin.

[Tehui1974]

Dwan is such a good cash game player. His tornument play is not as strong.

[bombardsquads]

LOL thats hilarious. barry never asks to make deals and he asked if they could takea few hundred back. and tom said no hahaha. then barry got raped. that was funny.. shoulda ran it twice tom offered lol

[tonyt0ny]

This guy never sleeps. Because. I

Dont. Know.

[Duphe]

some guys are just too lucky.

[dragonquest20]

dwan is the best online poker!!i rest in peace!!

[Hollylicioux]

perfect flop, perfect damn flop for a gambler :)

[ginntonic11]

who's dawn

[ColourboyMarkyboy]

GO DURRRR!!!

[kevdufc]

dwan is defo the man

[cashin78]

Go dwan, no fear!!

[jparkfosho]

@074Jesse coinflip is luck

[Hanamichi6666]

ofc that lucky kid hit his card...

[iioal]

Dur always say i will do watevere u want run it onces or twice love the way he plays he speaks for all of us on the big stage this is wat i feel

[nybombs]

@074Jesse lucky considering Dwan flopped top pair with a flush draw, calling the three bet out of position just with a KQ.

[verziniknogwel]

@PhiIlvey you're an ass

[jparkfosho]

when berry said take couple hundred back, does he mean let's gamble for less money?

[VicenzoV]

@jparkfosho Yes. It's because he never runs it twice but he also doesn't want to risk 400k on a coinflip. Even though he says "that's what I thought you had", he probably put Dwan on AQ without the flushdraw and thought his re-raise would put Dwan off his hand.

[xanderbiscuits]

@jparkfosho yes

[yyweiss89]

durrr never asked for the deal. the dealer asked him if they were running it once. durrr turned to barry to comfirm that they were only running it once bec durrrr knows barrry is annoying and anal. barry then like the pussy he is wanted to take money bak.....thats it.

[shagrat32]

greenstein has only made 7m in poker. that is a DEVISTATING pot... wow

[spriggo786]

@shagrat32 your an idiot.. hes a reg at the "big game" hes able to donate his 7m tournament earnings to charity as hes done so well in cash games...

[Partizan1379]

what about calling the flop bet to put him allin on the turn ? greenstein gave him suited Q,X, had position ...? but he is master of the game! well with 460k smaller bankroll. lol

[DirtyBird760]

when dwan got pushed all in he was like wtf u gotta respect a bet like that hes not gonna fold

[simonrori]

?? dwan didnt suck at all!!

in fact it is  a nobrainer for both of them.. they couldnt do anything different than putting it in.

[AhYaOk]

kaplan is hillarious

[1JackBauer]

He's known in poker circles as the Robin Hood of Poker

He once lost all his money with aces against kings on the final hand of the day to his archnemisis Farha

He lost with aces against Crazy Gus Hansen's 10,9.

He is...

The Unluckiest Man in the World.

[BazillusTheKiller2]

1 mio sry :P

[BazillusTheKiller2]

wow credits to dwan for making no deals with 100 mio dollars is the pott

[hemmingway28]

it's because Greenstien never does business, in another match up with Dwan he wouldn't do it, I think it might have been before this as well, so it makes sense for Dwan to do it to teach him a lesson, still courage to do that you are right

[Violincrazy]

that is sick

[i99xx]

he lives in durrrr land XD

[ichstandart]

LUCKER!

[bigtim727]

durr is the luckiest person i have ever seen but he is also the best greenstein had to make that play or he would have been a donk you cant play scared of a set of queens agains durr

[chrischang127]

tom does get lucky, but in this hand he was 50/50 after the flop so he didn't really suck out that much.

[tmurphy83]

lol... u have no idea what your talking bout do u!

[notoriousjpp]

i just don't see how barry finds it inconceivable that dwan had pocket queens and flopped top set. he didnt re-raise pre-flop when it was three bet, he just flat calls, and then all the action happens on the flop. kind of a stubborn but "correct" play by greenstein. kinda sick that it comes third queen and not the flush

[postflopper]

@notoriousjpp there's no chance in hell a player like dwan will flat queens oop. it's just not in his playbook. he would've reraise pf 100%. only possible strong holding he can have is a set of 4s in that spot.

[vernadog12]

getting it all in with aces on a Q 4 2 board against a crazy player like durr is not exactly a donk play. Just a cooler for barry

[richieb1131]

and who are you to make such a statement? You would prolly fold the aces there to durrr just so you wouldnt have to piss yourself in fear but does that really make greenstein a donk? Do you have a half mill that u have won playing poker that you could lose in one session and still be rich as hell? prolly not so dont call a professional poker player a donk when u have absolutely no credibility . In other words your oppinion is about as valuable as a kernel of corn in a pile of crap.

[theyamss]

im not sure i would say rich as hell. he was sitting there begging durrr to take a couple 100k's back. sounds desperate to me.

[jhub1990]

greensteins such a donk