I've never had Modes explained to me properly, took forever to figure it out - mostly because it's kinda fuzzy & there's pros and cons to each explanation, but basically - playing a C major scale over F is only flirting with Lydian if you then continue to resolve to a C chord ( which is still cool ) - it really becomes F lydian if you make the F your over-all tonic: I usually show folks that first, because it really drives it home.
I play music. The next thing you're going to say is you want me to quit. One note here then one note there incorrectly discribed and you want to disqualify someone. I could care less. I raised a family of 4 teaching. I would love to open for your band at any gig under any circumstance. I want to see the person who puts me in my place actually play better than me. Then maybe I would listen. But you can't explain it theoritically either.
@johnhguitar You are really emotional. I dont want you to quit, I just want you to correct your mistakes. The problem is that people are coming here getting bad info, you could just as easily update the videos with correct instructions
Ive been playing in bands for over 10 years, in addition, ive actually been a guitar teacher. My first guitar teacher went to berklee, the other works in new york now doing session work for sony and doing commercials (jingles if you will).
@johnhguitar in addition to what I just posted, theoretically speaking when you use a mode you define the root note, and thus the notes one would resolve with.
if you use a cmajor lead over A minor, you may attempt to resolve on the 5th (which has a "big" or triumphant purpose) but relative to the chord, you're resolving on 7, which is the leading tone (which is there to usually "lead" to 1)
make sure you read the first part of this response, this is the second comment ive left
@psychogulay response #2, No, I dont have to make videos in order to be right. I know about modes, this guy has already admitted to being wrong. Go away and die forever idiot
After reading all your comments I'm guessing you're still in high school or junior college, you've been playing and instrument for less than ten years, and you've never earned a living at playing music.
You shouldn't say such bitter stuff over music theory, it's not that important.
I see you use the word authority in your title. All I can tell you is it would be hard to be in the same band with you. Lighten up friend.
Believe it or not I like this comment. It's kinda funny! We can be friendly and correct the mistakes of others in a respectful manner without the chopping.
Perhaps this is more important than all the exactness of mode description?
You made that seem easy and i have a pattern that i can use in so many situations man that made modes almost seem easy now to practice and GNerd yep that sound you get with 3 note per string legato is sig Joe.
The guitar is so cool. I played "basic" guitar as a camp counselor for four years running. I know maybe 7 chords, but can play dozens of songs. It's weird when I meet someone who actually knows how to play because they try to talk guitar to me and I'm like...huh o_O. This actually made sense to me...it'll a few years before I will even master this but it makes sense. :D eight thumbs up even though I only have two hands!
I know this may seem like nitpicking, but the Lydian mode contains a #4, not a b5. It really helps to think about the note's function in the scale instead of the distance from the tonic. I started off thinking about it like you did and soon I had to reprogram myself.
Aren't enharmonics fun?? Am6 or C6 same notes... Some folks worry too much about what to call something. I studied harmony/scales/modes for years. Here's what I learned; If it sounds good call is "good".
Yes, but they're functionally different. In a (diatonic)scale with a b5 you'd have a perfect fourth, but if you had a scale with a #4 it would, the function of that same note changes because the notes preceeding it in the scale have changed.
@UncleZipper Agreed- if you have a maj7 sharp 11 chord then that hints at the Lydian mode. Whereas, a major 7 b5 still has the perfect fourth there so it CAN'T be lydian.
@UncleZipper calling it a b5 is wrong because the lydian mode also contains a natural 5. if you called the #4 a b5 you would have 2 5th degrees and no 4th degree, and that just doesnt work.
@UncleZipper u arent nit picking bro. The scale formulas for the modes should always be refferred back to the major scale. The flat 5 in c major would be an f#, however if we refer to it as a flat five that is insinuating that it is minor but lydian is in fact a major scale so it is proper to call it a #4. This is especially important for targeting chord tones during playing.
Right. Got it. It's the #4 because the perfect 5th is still in the scale. I wish you would have said that instead of me. Thanks anyhow for pointing that out.
@MoFo2127 The exact same principle you can use on all the modes. Dorian is scale of the fifth played over root (Hmi/Dmaj over E minor in the progression), phrygian is the scale of the fourth (Amin/Cmaj over e minor), lydian is the scale of the maj third (G#min/Hmaj over e maj), mixolydian is the scale of the second (F#min/Amaj over Emaj), Locrian is the mode of the minor seventh (Dmin/Fmaj over Edim). They're just not called F#min,Amaj etc. but the name of the mode :D
Lydian's with a sharp 4. Its F major without accidentals and it certainly is C major scale over the F major chord. Great sound :) Now to write a song...
@johnhguitar John... You've just busted open a whole new world of sound for me... So let me get this straight... The simple formula is, just play the major scale in whatever key is the perfect 5th above the tonic of whatever major chord you're playing over, and BAM! VOILA! if you know the major scale shape, you now suddenly also know Lydian all over the freakin' neck without even having to learn new ANY new patterns?(!?) WHY IS NO-ONE ELSE EXPLAINING THIS STUFF AS SIMPLY AS YOU?
I discovered these sounds on my own so when I had to teach them I needed a language that the student could understand. I learned what they were called technically but continued to relate to the original way I understood. I think we do better when you present things in the most basic ways. Joe Pass has a chord book and he doesn't tell you the names of the chords. He just says they're major, minor, dominant type chords. He makes you go for the sound rather than the complete theory. Understand?
thanks guy! I've been trying to wrap my mind around what makes modes sound different if its just the same notes rearranged. But i now i kinda see that is the order of the bass note/scale you choose that makes different tonalities. Thanks a bunch!
I love these videos. After playing bass for years in various bands, I finally decided to pick up an amp and Strat recently. Been 10 yrs since I have played and decided to learn "the right way" vs. everything by ear that I am used to. These are perfect for me. Thanks for taking the time to produce them.
what brand is your shirt, like it
isleoforkney 1 month ago
Volcom
johnhguitar 1 month ago
I've never had Modes explained to me properly, took forever to figure it out - mostly because it's kinda fuzzy & there's pros and cons to each explanation, but basically - playing a C major scale over F is only flirting with Lydian if you then continue to resolve to a C chord ( which is still cool ) - it really becomes F lydian if you make the F your over-all tonic: I usually show folks that first, because it really drives it home.
CusterFlux 2 months ago
Might I ask what you use to hold that chord underneath the lead work? I'm trying to set up a rig I can really manipulate.
Zigallity 2 months ago
It's a basic Boss Delay pedal with a hold feature.
johnhguitar 2 months ago
thanks you make it very clear, easy to remember. good job
timmerdonkey 2 months ago
Respect other musicians. ..we don't care how u can play...i like this guy......:-|:-|:-|
peter0000018 3 months ago
Hey Endauthority...if u don't like this stuffs. ..don't watch in..don't make disturb others nusician
peter0000018 3 months ago
Easy way to remember a Lydian mode: Just play a major scale and sharpen the fourth.
shibby999955 4 months ago
"bla bla bla.. thank you" yeeeaaaahhhh!!!! i'm learning for free haha
littlewing62 8 months ago
You look mad when you say the word "lydian" :D
MrBananacue143 1 year ago
no... thank YOU!
(from italy)
mic270469 1 year ago
It's a #4 and not a b5 because the difference between F and F lydian is that the fourth has moved, not the fifth.
2Dfilms 1 year ago 28
@2Dfilms johnguitar doesnt know theory but he insists on "teaching"
endauthority 5 months ago
I play music. The next thing you're going to say is you want me to quit. One note here then one note there incorrectly discribed and you want to disqualify someone. I could care less. I raised a family of 4 teaching. I would love to open for your band at any gig under any circumstance. I want to see the person who puts me in my place actually play better than me. Then maybe I would listen. But you can't explain it theoritically either.
johnhguitar 5 months ago
@johnhguitar You are really emotional. I dont want you to quit, I just want you to correct your mistakes. The problem is that people are coming here getting bad info, you could just as easily update the videos with correct instructions
Ive been playing in bands for over 10 years, in addition, ive actually been a guitar teacher. My first guitar teacher went to berklee, the other works in new york now doing session work for sony and doing commercials (jingles if you will).
endauthority 5 months ago
@johnhguitar in addition to what I just posted, theoretically speaking when you use a mode you define the root note, and thus the notes one would resolve with.
if you use a cmajor lead over A minor, you may attempt to resolve on the 5th (which has a "big" or triumphant purpose) but relative to the chord, you're resolving on 7, which is the leading tone (which is there to usually "lead" to 1)
make sure you read the first part of this response, this is the second comment ive left
endauthority 5 months ago
@endauthority ...and OH i just checked your channel. do you know that you only got 2 subscribers... What does that mean???
psychogulay 5 months ago
@psychogulay it means I dont upload videos, retard.
endauthority 5 months ago
@endauthority do your own thing man, make your videos, post it and then we will all see... otherwise shut up and let the man teach us...
psychogulay 5 months ago
@psychogulay response #2, No, I dont have to make videos in order to be right. I know about modes, this guy has already admitted to being wrong. Go away and die forever idiot
endauthority 5 months ago
Go away and die you idiot? Over modes?
Now you have earned my introspection.
After reading all your comments I'm guessing you're still in high school or junior college, you've been playing and instrument for less than ten years, and you've never earned a living at playing music.
You shouldn't say such bitter stuff over music theory, it's not that important.
I see you use the word authority in your title. All I can tell you is it would be hard to be in the same band with you. Lighten up friend.
johnhguitar 5 months ago 2
I take it all back! You have a college degree and piss on it by acting like a fool.
johnhguitar 5 months ago
@johnhguitar 1) it was sarcasm
2) even if it wasnt, you could NOT deduce all of that from that comment.
Ive made plenty of money playing music, and ive been playing guitar for over 10 years, and even if i didnt, I still know about modes, and you dont
and my name also contains the word "end". put them together and watch the magic!!!!
endauthority 5 months ago
Believe it or not I like this comment. It's kinda funny! We can be friendly and correct the mistakes of others in a respectful manner without the chopping.
Perhaps this is more important than all the exactness of mode description?
johnhguitar 5 months ago
You made that seem easy and i have a pattern that i can use in so many situations man that made modes almost seem easy now to practice and GNerd yep that sound you get with 3 note per string legato is sig Joe.
cajun5150 1 year ago
The guitar is so cool. I played "basic" guitar as a camp counselor for four years running. I know maybe 7 chords, but can play dozens of songs. It's weird when I meet someone who actually knows how to play because they try to talk guitar to me and I'm like...huh o_O. This actually made sense to me...it'll a few years before I will even master this but it makes sense. :D eight thumbs up even though I only have two hands!
AccebKidrah 1 year ago
Thanks John,You're the best musician and teacher...
paul1127gilbert 1 year ago
Lydian is a major scale with raised 4th degree. In the key of C you would use C D E F# G A B to make it sound lydian
dudefromutopia 1 year ago
F lydian is the C major scale played over an F major or an Fmaj7 and od u play the b5 whem the F is in the bass?
MoFo2127 1 year ago
Correct! Your're getting it! Way to go. Good music to come. Thanks!
johnhguitar 1 year ago
@johnhguitar no thank you :)
MoFo2127 1 year ago
@MoFo2127
I know this may seem like nitpicking, but the Lydian mode contains a #4, not a b5. It really helps to think about the note's function in the scale instead of the distance from the tonic. I started off thinking about it like you did and soon I had to reprogram myself.
UncleZipper 1 year ago
Tell us why Uncle Zipper so we can all understand. Thanks
johnhguitar 1 year ago
@johnhguitar
Aren't enharmonics fun?? Am6 or C6 same notes... Some folks worry too much about what to call something. I studied harmony/scales/modes for years. Here's what I learned; If it sounds good call is "good".
You did a great job explaining.
Cheers,
allen
carvetop01 8 months ago
@UncleZipper but isn't a b5 enharmonically the same as a #4?
gdubs8367 1 year ago
@gdubs8367 Yes it is, but theorically they`re different
olpaxis 1 year ago
@gdubs8367
Yes, but they're functionally different. In a (diatonic)scale with a b5 you'd have a perfect fourth, but if you had a scale with a #4 it would, the function of that same note changes because the notes preceeding it in the scale have changed.
UncleZipper 1 year ago
@UncleZipper Agreed- if you have a maj7 sharp 11 chord then that hints at the Lydian mode. Whereas, a major 7 b5 still has the perfect fourth there so it CAN'T be lydian.
JimJammBassMan 11 months ago
@gdubs8367
They may sound different in tunings other than 12-TET.
NobodyHasThisNick 8 months ago
@UncleZipper calling it a b5 is wrong because the lydian mode also contains a natural 5. if you called the #4 a b5 you would have 2 5th degrees and no 4th degree, and that just doesnt work.
bmc31190 8 months ago
@UncleZipper u arent nit picking bro. The scale formulas for the modes should always be refferred back to the major scale. The flat 5 in c major would be an f#, however if we refer to it as a flat five that is insinuating that it is minor but lydian is in fact a major scale so it is proper to call it a #4. This is especially important for targeting chord tones during playing.
sr1129 8 months ago
@MoFo2127 Not the b5, the #4
krabou 7 months ago
Right. Got it. It's the #4 because the perfect 5th is still in the scale. I wish you would have said that instead of me. Thanks anyhow for pointing that out.
johnhguitar 7 months ago
@krabou okie dokie
MoFo2127 7 months ago
@MoFo2127 The exact same principle you can use on all the modes. Dorian is scale of the fifth played over root (Hmi/Dmaj over E minor in the progression), phrygian is the scale of the fourth (Amin/Cmaj over e minor), lydian is the scale of the maj third (G#min/Hmaj over e maj), mixolydian is the scale of the second (F#min/Amaj over Emaj), Locrian is the mode of the minor seventh (Dmin/Fmaj over Edim). They're just not called F#min,Amaj etc. but the name of the mode :D
TheUnforgivenGenius 6 months ago
Lydian's with a sharp 4. Its F major without accidentals and it certainly is C major scale over the F major chord. Great sound :) Now to write a song...
LizzieDizzy 1 year ago
Whoa! If I use the 3 note per string legato pattern in the 8th position with legato phrasing I INSTANTLY sound like Satriani! THANKS !!!
SuperGuitarNerd 1 year ago
No shit! Finally some one with curiosity. If you continue to search you'll find what you need from many sources. Good luck!
johnhguitar 1 year ago
@johnhguitar John... You've just busted open a whole new world of sound for me... So let me get this straight... The simple formula is, just play the major scale in whatever key is the perfect 5th above the tonic of whatever major chord you're playing over, and BAM! VOILA! if you know the major scale shape, you now suddenly also know Lydian all over the freakin' neck without even having to learn new ANY new patterns?(!?) WHY IS NO-ONE ELSE EXPLAINING THIS STUFF AS SIMPLY AS YOU?
WHY?@?#!!
SuperGuitarNerd 1 year ago
I discovered these sounds on my own so when I had to teach them I needed a language that the student could understand. I learned what they were called technically but continued to relate to the original way I understood. I think we do better when you present things in the most basic ways. Joe Pass has a chord book and he doesn't tell you the names of the chords. He just says they're major, minor, dominant type chords. He makes you go for the sound rather than the complete theory. Understand?
johnhguitar 1 year ago
so d major scale over g major chord would also be lydian?
richardcrookston 1 year ago
Yes. This is good to know don't you think?
johnhguitar 1 year ago
@johnhguitar Wouldn't d major over g major be mixolydian? Isn't it the other way around - wouldn't g major over d major would be lydian?
chrisrusty99 1 year ago
D major scale over G is Lydian and C major scale over G is Mixolydian. Keep staring at it till you figure it out.
johnhguitar 1 year ago
D major scale over G is Lydian and C major scale over G is Mixolydian. Keep staring at it till you figure it out.
johnhguitar 1 year ago
thanks guy! I've been trying to wrap my mind around what makes modes sound different if its just the same notes rearranged. But i now i kinda see that is the order of the bass note/scale you choose that makes different tonalities. Thanks a bunch!
alsharpton666 1 year ago
Your demonstration of modes is the best I've seen on the net. Thanx a million man!!
sensational1982 1 year ago
That guitar is beautiful.
EstevanMusic 1 year ago 3
you can really hear the simpsons theme when playing lydian
mifski 1 year ago 2
@mifski Yeh lol, many music for commercials n tv shows have lydian in them, because it catches your attention right away.
francisco444 1 year ago
i had already been using this scale by ear over maj7's but didnt know it had a name
thanks!
pzolsky 1 year ago
thnx, again man for your "user frendly" lessons! :P
MrXtamar999 2 years ago
good video, thank you for your time
sexypants91 2 years ago
This one of the best lesson here,short and clear.Thanks
rejrockmetal 2 years ago
Thanks you so much for these vids!!
Peteworth 2 years ago
I love these videos. After playing bass for years in various bands, I finally decided to pick up an amp and Strat recently. Been 10 yrs since I have played and decided to learn "the right way" vs. everything by ear that I am used to. These are perfect for me. Thanks for taking the time to produce them.
andrewccm 2 years ago 17