I just like most Americans used to think the moon landings were real until one fateful day. I was looking at some still shots from the moon landings and I found Waldo. Of course thats when I knew it was all a hoax and we the people had been duped. My faith has been shattered, whats next, are we going to find out that Nixon was a liar, or that Santa wasn't real? It's a sad day when you learn you can't trust your own government AND Waldo.
@Astrobrant2 Awe130 should take a lesson from centercity1. After seeing my request for evidence of his claim, he removed his comment and ran away. Awe130, on the other hand, keeps making the same claim over and over again and NEVER responds to people's requests for specifics.
That is PURE SPAM, and just plain dirt rude. And it TOTALLY destroys his credibility. But he just doesn't GET that.
Very personal again astrobrant2 please can we debate like adults. A debate means also listening to one an other. We have told 10 comments before that if Apollo never put a foot on the moon all photo and film material with astronauts in it must altered. We doubt Apollo put a man on the moon and this doubt is based on question NASA does not seem able to answer.
We do not run commercials like astrobrant2 does, yes we receive donations you can find out ore about this on out website under FAQ. Astrobrant2 and other Apollo propagandist are not aware that NASA photos are altered as we always have stated.
Well I read your post and it contains no evidence of numbers not 'adding up'... perhaps you forgot?
As for the 'Apollo Pictures', yes I am sure many publishers alter the images before publication. But perhaps you were building up to an actual point and forgot it...
@awe130 Identify what photos NASA altered and your opinion on why they altered them. Your continued posting of this claim while refusing to give evidence of it is SPAM.
That's ALL you EVER do. You have already demonstrated that you are utterly incapable of feeling embarrassment. Now let's see if you are also utterly incapable of common conversational courtesy.
@awe130 As you've done before, you are deliberately misusing the word "alter" to make a fallacious point. Honesty isn't your strong suit.
There is no evidence that NASA altered any of the photos in any way which misrepresents the truth of the missions. NASA did do things like crop photos, remove glare and lens flare, adjust contrast, and make composites for later publication.
Anyway, which photos are you talking about? The ones they took while they were on the moon?
@awe130 Identify the photos that NASA altered and explain why NASA altered them, (in your humble opinion).
So when you say "number do not add up," that's just an expression for "something's wrong with this photo." Is that correct? Because if you are talking about actual numbers, I want to know which ones you're talking about.
Good point you make about "Would they really make that kind of mistake?". That's the first thing I thought when I heard the multiple light source theory.
If nothing else though, the conspiracy theorists are a great source of entertainment- I do laugh at their crazy ideas.
Tiny bubble of lairs is gona fall, and it will be done before all motherfuckers put the chain on the internet. Wich is already running with merging facebook youtube gmail and other stuff of information to 1 account wich can be easly baned or susspended if it will have uncomfortable information as this one. You can still kill unconfortable peoples wich belive other things than F scientists told and learn in schools. We will still be born and wake up man kind. You cant change it no matter what.
@Liquidazot Who needs "learn in schools" when you can just gullibly get your opinion spoonfed from a dork webpage? You're right, you're soooo much smarter ;)
Ok tell me MRS GENIUS how the fuc kastronauts construckt moonROver? and where did they hide parts in this small lander? Get a fuck off fucking LADIRS of the WORLD. Evrything sciencetist told us is LAIR and BULLSHIT.
@ytmoog hahaha you dont realize what speed is in space. realy funn all this is fake. Its imposible to land on moon with tehnolygy they said they have in this years if earth is spining around the sunn. Hah Need just brain and logical thinking. Springs in space landing on moon with speed 10km/s hahahahah sahah ha hah ah ahhahaha
@ytmoog so you sohuld know this all is bullshit lair, to blind human kind from the real truth. This theory of solar system and we had ROCKEt hahaha flying to the moon is another FLATLAND on thurtle shell kidds story. If the earth is spining around sun, and moon around earth with ubnormal speed its not posible to chase it with small rocket on wich gravity of earth dont work becouse wheight is to small.Evry one who have data in the internet. Can compare information and put it all to one.
@Liquidazot Well the Earth is spinning at 1000 mph,so how can a Airliner keep up with the Earth? and they did not "chase" the moon they intercepted it at a pre planned point, and in actual fact the moons gravity pulled the Apollo space craft towards it, you see the people at NASA are clever, alot more clever than you are. Also the moon is traveling at 2200 mph relative to the Earth, about the same speed as a SR71 blackbird. Please educate yourself before posting your rubbish.
@Liquidazot Do you realize that human technology has landed probes on Mars, Venus, and Titan? Do you realize we have orbiters of Saturn and Jupiter? Did you know we did flyby photography of Uranus and Neptune and their moons as well closeups of an asteroid and a comet and Mercury, and that we have spacecraft which have long since left the planetary solar system?
Apollo 10 exceeded ten TIMES the orbital velocity of the moon.
The way I see it - when it comes down to either the entire world's highly-educated scientific community being right, vs a bunch of neck-bearded conspiracy theorists on YouTube that hunt and peck Wikipedia and YouTube for out-of-context facts and suddenly think they're experts, it's not hard to guess which of the two groups are wrong.
Never really considered this issue before, but the smug tone of this video certainly makes me want to investigate the other side, just because you refer to them as 'nuts' and whatnot. So far, what I've seen is that both you and 'they' believe you're in the rational position, and provide possible explanations, but not to the exclusion of all others. The fact you are implying anyone on the other side of the argument is a 'nut', or 'egomaniac' makes me more interested in what they have to say.
@jmich328 My descriptions of them are not hypothetical. They are based on considerable experience.
There is no legitimacy to hoax claims We went to the moon. When people see their questions legitimately answered and their claims thoroughly debunked and yet they continue to push them, pretending to be smarter than the world's entire scientific community of the last 40 years, then yes, they are nuts and egomaniacs.
"Smug" is irrelevant when you're RIGHT. Apollo is a FACT.
Not only that, but why would they need a secondary light to highlight the astronaut climbing the ladder? There's already tons of footage of them coming down the ladder - in likewise lighting conditions, why would they all of a sudden need to make a "grand show" of it later on?
Great video. The problem with the hoax believers is that they don't know anything about light, shadows and optics. Eg; the moon has no atmosphere, therefore no scattering and shadows are black; but reflection into the shadow is strong -- therefore is lit from below.
These hoax nuts invariably operate from a position of ignorance and/or general lack of intelligence. What keeps them going is their colossal ego. Ego and ignorance are an ugly combination, but it is typical of nearly all entrenched conspiracy theorists.
i. there's no way that one huge spotlight or many combined spotlights could make shadows of apollo ls objects (lm, flag, astronaut &c) fall so sharp.
ii. there's no possible way on the earth surface to make sand or dust fall back down to the surface without billowing which is possible only when an atmosphere is absent.
iii. can't simulate 1/6 gravity on the earth.
of course, these are possible! only if they were actually on the moon which they were.
@Astrobrant2 Then why NASA didn't deny this information either. Only 30 years later experts determined that the book was requested by NASA and I'm saying experts it wasn't just out of my head. I'm not giving you any sources on that you can research yourself. Also why did NASA decided to classify everything related to flights to the moon? Armstrong said that they have discovered signs of extraterrestrial life, he also added that he is not allowed to go into any more details.
*What* experts determined that *what* book was requested by NASA? You said "out of my head," so you're just making it up, right? That's typically what conspiracy theorists do. The only book I know of is one they asked James Oberg to write, explaining the errors of hoax claims. They canceled the request.
What did they "classify" related to the Apollo missions? Or was that just "out of your head" too?
@Astrobrant2 I meant NASA didn't deny the claims in the book called "we never went to the moon" considering how pupolar and sensational it was at that time. The book was written by NASA's request. They classified pretty much everything regarding the flights to the moon. Man you asking too many questions that makes me think that you don't or don't want to understand anything I said. People like you live in a shallowland and usually say "In governement we trust". End of discussion.
@RUS38 You may have known what you meant to say, but it isn't what you ended up saying.
NASA had no interest in debunking Kaysing. They still don't. To them, he was an unbalanced child throwing a temper tantrum.
"We Never Went to the Moon" was never popular or sensational. Publishers rejected it. But it did get the attention of moon hoax theorists and other anti-America woo-woos.
@Astrobrant2 Remember with apollo 11 live broadcusting when it was interrupted for 2 min and people didn't know wtf is going on? Appearently they had two lines of comminication std and emergency. For some reason they switched to emergency. But radio operatotrs from the ground picked up that conversation. look for Armstrong "These babies were huge, sir!".
just join the whisper so we get the pictures before they are airbrushed. We do not care if Apollo landed on the moon or not we just doubt it. By joining the whisper propagandists will be able to make a stronger point that Apollo landed on the moon. The longer it takes for NASA to release the material the louder the whisper will get even it can grow to a murmur and beyond if NASA delays this process. It is time to join the whisper.
@awe130 What kind of alterations did they make? Show me any photo in the ALSJ that was altered. I've asked you that repeatedly in my debate video and you have failed to answer, so lets try again.
Tell us WHAT photo or film was altered and WHY you think they altered it.
@RUS38 What are you pretending to whine about? NOTHING is classified about the moon missions. The documents are public domain, the spare LEM and Apollo capsule are on public display right now for god sake. We know who went, when, where, and how many times. So what do you naively think is "classified?" Sounds like you gullibly believed the wrong talking point on the wrong conspirasheep hoax page ;)
@SpreadingtheMuse I see you and Astrobrants are more informed than me. Must be watching alot of TV and reading some interesting info from NASA or whatever. Than you must know the answer to why russians and americans after visiting the moon all of a sudden terminated all the grandiose plans for future moon projects and missions. And why the hell we don't go there anymore? Must be nothing really interesting over there ey? :)
@RUS38 "Must be nothing really interesting over there ey?" You hit the nail on the head. It's why they canceled the last three missions.
It just could not be justified at the expense of unmanned probes through the solar system. Scientifically, those have yielded MUCH more of value than other manned moon missions would have.
@RUS38 Actually I know more than you cause I'm a former Astronomy teacher, in addition to physics and chem and a half dozen others that I fear you slept through.
Why is everything always "suddenly?" And why do you think the stopped missions are such a gosh darn big secret? 30 sec of googling would have told you. USA stopped cause Congress cut off the funding in a short-sighted budget fight. Russia stopped cause their booster rocket had a design flaw. That was the big secret? Hardly
@SpreadingtheMuse Yah right, who am I arguing with? Atronomy teacher! omg. The fact is alot of well respected and best scientists around the world might be very intelligent people but not smart. People who use an obtained knowledge but don't have enought of own critcal thinking. Where did you get the info about Russia and America also? I'm from Russia and believe me I did quite a good research on that topic. What you saing is a fairy tail for preschoolers. Thanks guys for making me laugh today
@RUS38 You do have a point that some highly educated people are not very smart. Look at William Lane Craig, for example. But among the scientific community, it would be foolish to assume that any significant percentage of them are dumb, just so you can believe some hoax theory.
Thousands of lunar samples have been rigorously examined by top geologists all over the world. Hundreds of peer reviewed papers have been written on them. You simply can't dismiss that, out of hand.
@RUS38 Whoever the "dumb" scientists are, we're certainly not trusting you, a flaming conspirasheep newb, to tell us who they are. You can ALL be dumb at the same time you know ;) Frankly, they're more believable than you are.
The Russians TOLD US why they quit . They DID NOT SAY "We can go and no one else ever went either." I can find no article or press release that says anything of the kind. If you say they did say that, then post the link right here and right now. You cant.
@RUS38 Kaysings book was self-published and barely made a dent before falling off the map. "Sensational" books are picked up by major publishers. "Sensational " books are reprinted so they can make millions. None of that applies to kaysing. His book was a failure.
Its not NASAs job to "deny" every nickel and dime claim by every fruitloop looking for a book deal. I'd much rather they earn their money doing the exploring and discovery they were meant to.
I am always amazed when some dipshit hoaxer says "they couldn't use a camera with those big gloves" . Um. Seriously? NASA built the Saturn 5, but didn't think about using a big lever to take pictures? Really,
@snakehipsohoolihan Yes, some of the hoax-nut claims seem to indicate that they are unaware that the concentration of geniuses at NASA wouldn't actually PLAN for something like manned moon missions.
The cameras were specially adapted for the gloves: big paddles for settings and a big button for shutter release. And the astronauts practiced countless hours with them.
How many people can kick a 35 yard field goal? But pros, who get LOTS of practice, do it regularly.
@foweyrocks103 Yep! NASA deliberately made fake videos and photos then released a book "We never went to the moon" because they found something that will turn history upside down. After all imaging what could happen if all of a sudden they would officically announce that we are not the only intelligent life in our solar system and we have discovered one on the moon.
@turkished What about the flag? The flag is a flimsy piece of cloth attached to a rigid flagpole in a frictionless environment. Try to STOP IT from moving. Every nickel and dime footstep, vibration, or bump would send it flying around for hours.
Your videos just about convinced me. One question though. In the first photo there is another shadow other than the astronaut. What is that a shadow of? And why is it not parallel or even similar angle to the astronauts shadow.
That's a touchdown probe extending from the LM's landing gear footpad (right side of photo). It contained a sensor to let the astronauts in the LM know when the landing gear was about to touch the lunar surface.
Upon landing, the four-foot-long probe bent to one side under the LM footpad, as this one did. You can see the gold insulation at its end as it pokes up from the soil.
- What is that a shadow of? And why is it not parallel or even similar angle to the astronauts shadow. -
It IS parallel. The shadow is cast in the width not the length.
And it could not be a second light source since they light source would create a second shadow and both shadows would not be that dark because of the other light source.
Can someone explain how there is a shadow cast in front of the astronaut in the beginning yet the front of the astronaut is bright as thought there is a light on the front of him?
@assassinklanairsoft Well, the video cameras weren't hand held, but you're right about the quality being the result of making cameras very small for that era -- and the distance that the signals had to be transmitted.
@assassinklanairsoft Apollo TV was analog and very limited by the communications link - 10 or 20 watts over 390,000 km! It used a custom "field sequential color" TV format, sending one blue field, then green and red. Moving objects broke up into colored confetti. When converted for broadcast on Earth, half the vertical resolution was discarded. There was interference to the video from telemetry. Amazing it worked at all, but we could do so much better today.
@assassinklanairsoft digicam , so advanced for those days , they used the same idea using codec at band 12Khz tv transmission but with darpa's recorder , basically like the bitmac but the size of the reels they had for their fortrans computers
All of my moon hoax videos have some kind of joke. Many of them are quite irrelevant -- just for fun. Perhaps my placement of this joke was bad, since it probably distracts from the important point I was making at the time about fall-off.
Oh well, live and learn.
In my videos you will also find Kilroy, Homer Simpson, Dino the dinosaur, a bong, and Alfred Hitchcock, McDonald's arches, a Coke machine, and a crane on the moon.
I watched many of them. They are a shame. To anyone with real expertise, Jarrah is a joke. He patently doesn't know what he's talking about, and he steadfastly refuses to engage the world's experts in open debate. Do you know the website Clavius Moonbase and ApolloHoax . net? Do you wonder why he does not show up there? I think you and I know what would happen if he ever had to defend his theories in such a forum against people who actually know what they're talking about.
@48mmwatch Jarrah is a lunatic, and his videos are laughable. Jarrah believes shuttle Challenger was a deliberate assassination of Christa MacCaliffe. Do you agree?
Fact is we know him better than you do. We've been arguing with him far longer than you've been agreeing with him, and there's nothing in any video of his that hasnt been refuted. Ever.
About the stars not being visible photographs, thats quite easily explained. Many cameras arent that well equipped to capture the lights from the stars, since the light is too weak. I took a picture with my cellphone camera (not a bad camera at all at least way better than the ones they had back then), and a picture i took of the sky at night was completely black even though the stars were perfectly visible to the naked eye. Not sure what kind of camera you have, but try it yourself.
@48mmwatch They took several pictures of the earth while they were on the moon. I don't know if they took any video shots of the earth from the cameras left on the moon. It would probably be pretty disappointing, though. Those cameras weren't able to send very high quality images from that distance.
The Apollo 11 crew did make a video showing the earth when they were about half way to the moon. As for stuff left on the moon, we still use the laser reflectors left there.
@48mmwatch Sorry, but the cameras they left on the moon are no longer working. And the warranty ran out 40 years ago! Besides, would that add anything to the vast amount of evidence presented by Apollo already?
There are pictures of the landing sites from the LRO. Have you seen them?
@48mmwatch No, the stars are missing from pictures because the cameras, set for sunlit subjects, were using exposures 1000 to 10,000 times too fast to pick up stars. Anyone who has ever done astrophotography, (like myself), understands this.
Are you saying that they didn't know star positions well enough to fake them?
@48mmwatch No, not "apparently." You are accusing a great many people of fraud, so I am calling on you to back that up. "Apparently" doesn't cut it. So I ask again, are you saying they didn't know enough about star positions in 1969 to have faked them in a backdrop?
If you are, don't feel bad. EVERY hoax nut eventually exposes his/her utter ignorance. Just look at all the others who have come by here and done the same thing.
@Astrobrant2 the moon "landing" is a religion. Its belief. you cannot prove they went. u have ONE government agency in control of all pictures videos and radio. puhleese.
@48mmwatch Are they in control of the many hundreds of geologists all over the world who examined moon rocks and published their findings in peer-reviewed journals? Were they in control of the Soviets, who monitored our missions?
It's not a religion. It is an irrefutable fact. But you are more than welcome to present your evidence against Apollo. Let's see if it's anything new, or just the same garbage that has been getting debunked for the last 35 years.
@48mmwatch Was this your response to my invitation to present your evidence?
What does He3 have to do with Apollo?
Would it make any difference to you if you found out that lunar meteorites weren't identified until several years AFTER Apollo? Do you realize that the TOTAL of lunar meteorites found all over the earth is something like 14 pounds? We brought back 840 pounds of lunar material. Hundreds of pounds have been examined by hundreds of geologists all over the world.
@Astrobrant2 Correction: 100 pounds of lunar meteorites have been identified. And ALL of them SINCE Apollo.
In fact, the discovery of these being of lunar origin was because we had some knowledge of lunar rocks brought back by Apollo, and similarities were spotted that would not have been noteworthy if we hadn't studied the rocks brought back from the moon.
I just like most Americans used to think the moon landings were real until one fateful day. I was looking at some still shots from the moon landings and I found Waldo. Of course thats when I knew it was all a hoax and we the people had been duped. My faith has been shattered, whats next, are we going to find out that Nixon was a liar, or that Santa wasn't real? It's a sad day when you learn you can't trust your own government AND Waldo.
LightenUpMcGraw 3 days ago
@LightenUpMcGraw Well, let's just give some credit to Waldo then!
Astrobrant2 3 days ago
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centercity1 1 week ago
@centercity1 Really? Give us an example of one of these fake photographs and tell us why it is fake?
Astrobrant2 1 week ago
@Astrobrant2 Awe130 should take a lesson from centercity1. After seeing my request for evidence of his claim, he removed his comment and ran away. Awe130, on the other hand, keeps making the same claim over and over again and NEVER responds to people's requests for specifics.
That is PURE SPAM, and just plain dirt rude. And it TOTALLY destroys his credibility. But he just doesn't GET that.
Astrobrant2 6 days ago
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@Astrobrant2,
Very personal again astrobrant2 please can we debate like adults. A debate means also listening to one an other. We have told 10 comments before that if Apollo never put a foot on the moon all photo and film material with astronauts in it must altered. We doubt Apollo put a man on the moon and this doubt is based on question NASA does not seem able to answer.
peace to you
awe130 6 days ago
@awe130
And what evidence do you have for that?
ytmoog 6 days ago
@awe130
So I'm guessing by the very long protracted silence the answer to my question is 'none'?
Why am I not surprised.
ytmoog 4 days ago
@Astrobrant2
It is a bit weird, you ask for some actual evidence and get nothing but silence.
Seems more like a religious belief than a reasoned position.
ytmoog 6 days ago
Finaly someone made a video actually proving we did go to the moon. Instead of whining about hoaxes
MaTeX72 3 weeks ago
A other question to you astrobant2? Your numbers do not ad up?
We are the whisper!
peace to you
awe130 3 weeks ago
@awe130
I'm interested; do show where the numbers do not 'ad up'.
Do you make money from the moon hoax conspiracy 'theory'?
ytmoog 3 weeks ago
@ytmoog,
We do not run commercials like astrobrant2 does, yes we receive donations you can find out ore about this on out website under FAQ. Astrobrant2 and other Apollo propagandist are not aware that NASA photos are altered as we always have stated.
Peace to you
awe130 3 weeks ago
@awe130
Well I read your post and it contains no evidence of numbers not 'adding up'... perhaps you forgot?
As for the 'Apollo Pictures', yes I am sure many publishers alter the images before publication. But perhaps you were building up to an actual point and forgot it...
Do try again.
ytmoog 3 weeks ago
@ytmoog,
NASA is also involved in altering photos! When photos are altered the number do not add up!
Peace to you
awe130 3 weeks ago
@awe130
Nope, you still failed to provide any point and any evidence.
Not that good at this are you...
ytmoog 3 weeks ago
@ytmoog,
Ken Johnston!
Peace to you
awe130 3 weeks ago
@awe130
The word you are looking for is 'evidence'... why do you have no idea what it means?
ytmoog 3 weeks ago
@ytmoog,
And do you think there is evidence of NASA altering photo and film material?
Peace to you
awe130 3 weeks ago
@awe130
Why not start with providing evidence for why you think AB2's numbers do not 'ad up'.
You are very good at making very vague claims and backing them with nothing.
ytmoog 3 weeks ago
@ytmoog,
Ken Johnston, is not vague at all he just tells that NASA has altered photo and film material?
Peace to you
awe130 3 weeks ago
@awe130
Why not start with providing evidence for why you think AB2's numbers do not 'ad up'.
Or do you not have any?
ytmoog 3 weeks ago 4
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@ytmoog,
Listen to Ken Johnston!
Peace to you
awe130 3 weeks ago
@ytmoog,
many people from both sides of the argument think that NASA altered their photo and film material.
Peace to you
awe130 1 week ago
@awe130
Why not start with providing evidence for why you think AB2's numbers do not 'ad up'.
Or do you not have any? I take it considering your very long silence on this you have nothing.
As to the pictures; the raw scans of the negatives are fully available to any thanks to the Arizona State university.
ytmoog 1 week ago
@awe130 Identify what photos NASA altered and your opinion on why they altered them. Your continued posting of this claim while refusing to give evidence of it is SPAM.
That's ALL you EVER do. You have already demonstrated that you are utterly incapable of feeling embarrassment. Now let's see if you are also utterly incapable of common conversational courtesy.
Astrobrant2 6 days ago
@awe130 As you've done before, you are deliberately misusing the word "alter" to make a fallacious point. Honesty isn't your strong suit.
There is no evidence that NASA altered any of the photos in any way which misrepresents the truth of the missions. NASA did do things like crop photos, remove glare and lens flare, adjust contrast, and make composites for later publication.
Anyway, which photos are you talking about? The ones they took while they were on the moon?
Astrobrant2 3 weeks ago
@awe130 You're as bad as the worst anti-evolutionist. You have just been thoroughly trashed on this Ken Johnston garbage on my debate video.
1st, just dropping the name without saying anything about him is childish nonsense. Oooohhh, "Ken Johnston"! Awe130 must REALLY be on to something!
2nd, Johnston has never held a position that would support your belief that Apollo was faked. He would probably call you crazy.
So let's trash your Ken Johnston crap again. Why did you mention him?
Astrobrant2 6 days ago
@awe130 Identify the photos that NASA altered and explain why NASA altered them, (in your humble opinion).
So when you say "number do not add up," that's just an expression for "something's wrong with this photo." Is that correct? Because if you are talking about actual numbers, I want to know which ones you're talking about.
Astrobrant2 6 days ago
@awe130 Identify the photos that were altered and tell why you think NASA altered them.
Astrobrant2 6 days ago
@awe130 What numbers, awe? Or is that too much to ask?
I don't remember doing any math in this video or in this comment section.
Astrobrant2 6 days ago
astrobrant2 you make money from the moon landing? Or is AwE130 wrong?
peace to you
awe130 3 weeks ago
@awe130 The second one.
TheGreatSparky 3 weeks ago
pause at 1:40 for Shannon Elizabeth in a 2 piece
frisc45 4 weeks ago
@frisc45 I would have preferred having her in a 0-piece!
Astrobrant2 4 weeks ago 2
FFs we all know they been on the moon thats that ffs let it go idiots
sampuig12 1 month ago
Good point you make about "Would they really make that kind of mistake?". That's the first thing I thought when I heard the multiple light source theory.
If nothing else though, the conspiracy theorists are a great source of entertainment- I do laugh at their crazy ideas.
BIackMoonCGI 1 month ago
Why you dont believe that we landed on the moon? whats wrong with thinking that way?
12Edix21 1 month ago
Tiny bubble of lairs is gona fall, and it will be done before all motherfuckers put the chain on the internet. Wich is already running with merging facebook youtube gmail and other stuff of information to 1 account wich can be easly baned or susspended if it will have uncomfortable information as this one. You can still kill unconfortable peoples wich belive other things than F scientists told and learn in schools. We will still be born and wake up man kind. You cant change it no matter what.
Liquidazot 1 month ago
@Liquidazot Who needs "learn in schools" when you can just gullibly get your opinion spoonfed from a dork webpage? You're right, you're soooo much smarter ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
Ok tell me MRS GENIUS how the fuc kastronauts construckt moonROver? and where did they hide parts in this small lander? Get a fuck off fucking LADIRS of the WORLD. Evrything sciencetist told us is LAIR and BULLSHIT.
Liquidazot 1 month ago
@Liquidazot
On the off chance this is a serious question... the answer is that the rover was folded with spring loaded joints.
The engineers were actually quite clever and knew what they needed it to do.
Here is them unfolding it:
watch?v=-ShauSWcTC4
Here they are being trained on the deployment :
watch?v=ObEjEEfnBj8
And here is a nice documentary with some interviews by the engineers who designed it
watch?v=akkiQHZxQyc
ytmoog 1 month ago
@ytmoog hahaha you dont realize what speed is in space. realy funn all this is fake. Its imposible to land on moon with tehnolygy they said they have in this years if earth is spining around the sunn. Hah Need just brain and logical thinking. Springs in space landing on moon with speed 10km/s hahahahah sahah ha hah ah ahhahaha
Liquidazot 1 month ago
@Liquidazot
I am well aware of what speed is and velocity for that matter.
As well as the capabilities of rockets.
ytmoog 1 month ago
@ytmoog so you sohuld know this all is bullshit lair, to blind human kind from the real truth. This theory of solar system and we had ROCKEt hahaha flying to the moon is another FLATLAND on thurtle shell kidds story. If the earth is spining around sun, and moon around earth with ubnormal speed its not posible to chase it with small rocket on wich gravity of earth dont work becouse wheight is to small.Evry one who have data in the internet. Can compare information and put it all to one.
Liquidazot 1 month ago
@Liquidazot I think you're wasting your knowledge and talent here. You should go write a book.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@Liquidazot Well the Earth is spinning at 1000 mph,so how can a Airliner keep up with the Earth? and they did not "chase" the moon they intercepted it at a pre planned point, and in actual fact the moons gravity pulled the Apollo space craft towards it, you see the people at NASA are clever, alot more clever than you are. Also the moon is traveling at 2200 mph relative to the Earth, about the same speed as a SR71 blackbird. Please educate yourself before posting your rubbish.
musicbruv 1 month ago
@Liquidazot Do you realize that human technology has landed probes on Mars, Venus, and Titan? Do you realize we have orbiters of Saturn and Jupiter? Did you know we did flyby photography of Uranus and Neptune and their moons as well closeups of an asteroid and a comet and Mercury, and that we have spacecraft which have long since left the planetary solar system?
Apollo 10 exceeded ten TIMES the orbital velocity of the moon.
"10km/s"...they can slow down, you know.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
And then you say the same thing 9 minutes into the video :) great vid!
lingojac 1 month ago
The way I see it - when it comes down to either the entire world's highly-educated scientific community being right, vs a bunch of neck-bearded conspiracy theorists on YouTube that hunt and peck Wikipedia and YouTube for out-of-context facts and suddenly think they're experts, it's not hard to guess which of the two groups are wrong.
lingojac 1 month ago
am i the only one that saw the maxim chick somewhere from 1:35 to 1:45 ???
herberger1 1 month ago 8
@herberger1 It was just you and a couple hundred others.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
Never really considered this issue before, but the smug tone of this video certainly makes me want to investigate the other side, just because you refer to them as 'nuts' and whatnot. So far, what I've seen is that both you and 'they' believe you're in the rational position, and provide possible explanations, but not to the exclusion of all others. The fact you are implying anyone on the other side of the argument is a 'nut', or 'egomaniac' makes me more interested in what they have to say.
jmich328 1 month ago
@jmich328 My descriptions of them are not hypothetical. They are based on considerable experience.
There is no legitimacy to hoax claims We went to the moon. When people see their questions legitimately answered and their claims thoroughly debunked and yet they continue to push them, pretending to be smarter than the world's entire scientific community of the last 40 years, then yes, they are nuts and egomaniacs.
"Smug" is irrelevant when you're RIGHT. Apollo is a FACT.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
Not only that, but why would they need a secondary light to highlight the astronaut climbing the ladder? There's already tons of footage of them coming down the ladder - in likewise lighting conditions, why would they all of a sudden need to make a "grand show" of it later on?
MrSkunkwork100 1 month ago
Great video. The problem with the hoax believers is that they don't know anything about light, shadows and optics. Eg; the moon has no atmosphere, therefore no scattering and shadows are black; but reflection into the shadow is strong -- therefore is lit from below.
Numboss 1 month ago
@Numboss Thanks.
These hoax nuts invariably operate from a position of ignorance and/or general lack of intelligence. What keeps them going is their colossal ego. Ego and ignorance are an ugly combination, but it is typical of nearly all entrenched conspiracy theorists.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
why do people think the moon walk was fake
witato1 1 month ago
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Thumbs up if u see the girl at 01:38
pspkillerpsp 1 month ago
Did you noticed the girl photo at 1:40 ? What is she doing there? Are you serious uploader?
MAXIESONIC 1 month ago
@MAXIESONIC It was a joke. I put some kind of joke, (sometimes hidden), in all of my moon hoax videos.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
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RUS38 1 month ago
can you see the lady at 1:40?
jatimilanfan 1 month ago
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hoaxers can't comprehend these:
i. there's no way that one huge spotlight or many combined spotlights could make shadows of apollo ls objects (lm, flag, astronaut &c) fall so sharp.
ii. there's no possible way on the earth surface to make sand or dust fall back down to the surface without billowing which is possible only when an atmosphere is absent.
iii. can't simulate 1/6 gravity on the earth.
of course, these are possible! only if they were actually on the moon which they were.
zambi007i 1 month ago
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zambi007i 1 month ago
thumbs up if u saw the girl in the bikini
Fanmaster59 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2 Then why NASA didn't deny this information either. Only 30 years later experts determined that the book was requested by NASA and I'm saying experts it wasn't just out of my head. I'm not giving you any sources on that you can research yourself. Also why did NASA decided to classify everything related to flights to the moon? Armstrong said that they have discovered signs of extraterrestrial life, he also added that he is not allowed to go into any more details.
RUS38 1 month ago
@RUS38 Why did NASA deny *what* information?
*What* experts determined that *what* book was requested by NASA? You said "out of my head," so you're just making it up, right? That's typically what conspiracy theorists do. The only book I know of is one they asked James Oberg to write, explaining the errors of hoax claims. They canceled the request.
What did they "classify" related to the Apollo missions? Or was that just "out of your head" too?
Armstrong absolutely did NOT say that.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2 I meant NASA didn't deny the claims in the book called "we never went to the moon" considering how pupolar and sensational it was at that time. The book was written by NASA's request. They classified pretty much everything regarding the flights to the moon. Man you asking too many questions that makes me think that you don't or don't want to understand anything I said. People like you live in a shallowland and usually say "In governement we trust". End of discussion.
RUS38 1 month ago
@RUS38 You may have known what you meant to say, but it isn't what you ended up saying.
NASA had no interest in debunking Kaysing. They still don't. To them, he was an unbalanced child throwing a temper tantrum.
"We Never Went to the Moon" was never popular or sensational. Publishers rejected it. But it did get the attention of moon hoax theorists and other anti-America woo-woos.
What's wrong with my questions?
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
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@Astrobrant2 Remember with apollo 11 live broadcusting when it was interrupted for 2 min and people didn't know wtf is going on? Appearently they had two lines of comminication std and emergency. For some reason they switched to emergency. But radio operatotrs from the ground picked up that conversation. look for Armstrong "These babies were huge, sir!".
BTW do you watch fox news? ))
RUS38 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2,
The Apollo pictures are altered are you aware of that?
Peace to you
awe130 3 weeks ago
@awe130
If by "alter" you mean cleaned up for artisitic purposes, yeah we're aware of that. Are you aware that moon hoaxers are retarded assholes?
Blahblobify 1 week ago
@Blahblobify,
Thank you for the support that NASA altered their photo and film material. We appreciate your support for the whisper.
peace to you
awe130 1 week ago
@awe130
"Alter" to take out glare, etc, for publication does not mean they faked anything.
Get your head out of your rectum.
Blahblobify 1 week ago
@awe130
OMG they air brushed some photos holy shit they must be fake
Blahblobify 1 week ago
@Blahblobify,
just join the whisper so we get the pictures before they are airbrushed. We do not care if Apollo landed on the moon or not we just doubt it. By joining the whisper propagandists will be able to make a stronger point that Apollo landed on the moon. The longer it takes for NASA to release the material the louder the whisper will get even it can grow to a murmur and beyond if NASA delays this process. It is time to join the whisper.
peace to you
awe130 1 week ago
@awe130
So have you had any luck yet finding any evidence that AB2's numbers do not 'ad up'.
You have had a while, I would have thought you would have at least found someone to quote mine by now ;)
ytmoog 1 week ago
@ytmoog,
The photo and film material NASA altered even propagandist support this claim.
Peace to you
awe130 1 week ago
@awe130
Too lazy even to quote mine someone?
Come on awe, you sated the numbers did not 'ad' up. Should be easy enough for you to show this.
Why can't you?
ytmoog 1 week ago
@awe130 What kind of alterations did they make? Show me any photo in the ALSJ that was altered. I've asked you that repeatedly in my debate video and you have failed to answer, so lets try again.
Tell us WHAT photo or film was altered and WHY you think they altered it.
Astrobrant2 6 days ago
@RUS38 What are you pretending to whine about? NOTHING is classified about the moon missions. The documents are public domain, the spare LEM and Apollo capsule are on public display right now for god sake. We know who went, when, where, and how many times. So what do you naively think is "classified?" Sounds like you gullibly believed the wrong talking point on the wrong conspirasheep hoax page ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
@SpreadingtheMuse I see you and Astrobrants are more informed than me. Must be watching alot of TV and reading some interesting info from NASA or whatever. Than you must know the answer to why russians and americans after visiting the moon all of a sudden terminated all the grandiose plans for future moon projects and missions. And why the hell we don't go there anymore? Must be nothing really interesting over there ey? :)
RUS38 1 month ago
@RUS38 "Must be nothing really interesting over there ey?" You hit the nail on the head. It's why they canceled the last three missions.
It just could not be justified at the expense of unmanned probes through the solar system. Scientifically, those have yielded MUCH more of value than other manned moon missions would have.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2 I laughed out loud )) thanks.
RUS38 1 month ago
@RUS38 Sorry, I missed the joke. What was funny?
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@RUS38 Actually I know more than you cause I'm a former Astronomy teacher, in addition to physics and chem and a half dozen others that I fear you slept through.
Why is everything always "suddenly?" And why do you think the stopped missions are such a gosh darn big secret? 30 sec of googling would have told you. USA stopped cause Congress cut off the funding in a short-sighted budget fight. Russia stopped cause their booster rocket had a design flaw. That was the big secret? Hardly
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
@SpreadingtheMuse Yah right, who am I arguing with? Atronomy teacher! omg. The fact is alot of well respected and best scientists around the world might be very intelligent people but not smart. People who use an obtained knowledge but don't have enought of own critcal thinking. Where did you get the info about Russia and America also? I'm from Russia and believe me I did quite a good research on that topic. What you saing is a fairy tail for preschoolers. Thanks guys for making me laugh today
RUS38 1 month ago
@RUS38 You do have a point that some highly educated people are not very smart. Look at William Lane Craig, for example. But among the scientific community, it would be foolish to assume that any significant percentage of them are dumb, just so you can believe some hoax theory.
Thousands of lunar samples have been rigorously examined by top geologists all over the world. Hundreds of peer reviewed papers have been written on them. You simply can't dismiss that, out of hand.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@RUS38 Whoever the "dumb" scientists are, we're certainly not trusting you, a flaming conspirasheep newb, to tell us who they are. You can ALL be dumb at the same time you know ;) Frankly, they're more believable than you are.
The Russians TOLD US why they quit . They DID NOT SAY "We can go and no one else ever went either." I can find no article or press release that says anything of the kind. If you say they did say that, then post the link right here and right now. You cant.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
@RUS38 Kaysings book was self-published and barely made a dent before falling off the map. "Sensational" books are picked up by major publishers. "Sensational " books are reprinted so they can make millions. None of that applies to kaysing. His book was a failure.
Its not NASAs job to "deny" every nickel and dime claim by every fruitloop looking for a book deal. I'd much rather they earn their money doing the exploring and discovery they were meant to.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
@SpreadingtheMuse It's SO sensational that Amazon doesn't even stock it.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
who is the woman at 1:39 1:40 ? I don't think that suit would fair well on the moon.
redshift40 1 month ago
@redshift40 Shannon Elizabeth
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
I am always amazed when some dipshit hoaxer says "they couldn't use a camera with those big gloves" . Um. Seriously? NASA built the Saturn 5, but didn't think about using a big lever to take pictures? Really,
snakehipsohoolihan 1 month ago
@snakehipsohoolihan Yes, some of the hoax-nut claims seem to indicate that they are unaware that the concentration of geniuses at NASA wouldn't actually PLAN for something like manned moon missions.
The cameras were specially adapted for the gloves: big paddles for settings and a big button for shutter release. And the astronauts practiced countless hours with them.
How many people can kick a 35 yard field goal? But pros, who get LOTS of practice, do it regularly.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2 I meant "would actually plan." Editing omission.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
Shannon Elizabeth went to the moon?!
UberNoodleX 1 month ago
1.40 there is a women with a bra on ???
pennington1000 1 month ago
@pennington1000 Yeah. Tough luck about that bra, huh?
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@TheNaiv Thank you.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
waste of my time...
cylosbbi 1 month ago
@cylosbbi I'm so sorry. Here, let me give you a refund. Here's a credit for 9 min and 24 sec that you may use any way you want.
Have a lovely day.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago 7
124 people are morons.
Aterraadastra 1 month ago
1:40 awsome
IkeAndTheGang 1 month ago
Thumbs up if you saw my Shannon Elizabeth joke picture and totally lost what I was saying at the time.
LOL
Astrobrant2 1 month ago 4
observe the dust from boots and the rover.Note how if falls back to the surface without making clouds because of the lack of atmosphere.Simples!
stratocaster539 1 month ago
we landed on the earth
MrBeresterk 1 month ago
Myhbuser proved that we landed on the moon!!!
foweyrocks103 1 month ago
Thumbs up if u think we landed on the moon!!
foweyrocks103 1 month ago 12
@foweyrocks103 Well now! That's a cheap way to get thumbs up!
[snerk]
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@foweyrocks103 LOL, I think I've got your thumb-me-up comment beat. Check it out.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
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RUS38 1 month ago
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@foweyrocks103 Yep! NASA deliberately made fake videos and photos then released a book "We never went to the moon" because they found something that will turn history upside down. After all imaging what could happen if all of a sudden they would officically announce that we are not the only intelligent life in our solar system and we have discovered one on the moon.
RUS38 1 month ago
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foweyrocks103 1 month ago
so what about the waving flag??
turkished 1 month ago
@turkished What about the flag? The flag is a flimsy piece of cloth attached to a rigid flagpole in a frictionless environment. Try to STOP IT from moving. Every nickel and dime footstep, vibration, or bump would send it flying around for hours.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
The only way to truly prove it is wait until someone else lands on the moon again.
5687678 1 month ago
@5687678 Then that means the landing of Apollo 12 proved the landing of Apollo 11.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
@SpreadingtheMuse With higher quality image.
5687678 1 month ago
@5687678 Mere photograph distortion would never be enough to hide a shadow from the flaming spotlight that the deniers claim is only mere feet away.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
@5687678 that isnt needed we landed on the moon thats your prove right now there are even photos that show the apollo modules on the moon :)
MrBeresterk 1 month ago
@MrBeresterk It's just some images to me.
5687678 1 month ago
@5687678 Which images, then? I'll be happy to discuss them with you.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2 Go on ahead and waste your time.
5687678 1 month ago
@5687678 My time to waste, friend. What would you like to discuss?
(BTW, I'm going out to dinner soon, so this will probably be my last comment for a couple of hours.)
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@5687678 IS that your admission of being an anti-apollo bigot? And would disbelieve no matter how stupid the evidence made you look?
SOME of us are not ideologues.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
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rxqueen04 1 month ago
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@5687678....5687678 people that need to take their head of their asses and get a grip on reality...thanks for representing...
rxqueen04 1 month ago
I saw the subliminal message
TheMadbacker57 1 month ago
1:39 what's with the pic of the lady?
thenukeo 1 month ago
@thenukeo
She's nice, isn't she?
Rob260259 1 month ago
Your videos just about convinced me. One question though. In the first photo there is another shadow other than the astronaut. What is that a shadow of? And why is it not parallel or even similar angle to the astronauts shadow.
harrysadoyan 1 month ago
@harrysadoyan
That's a touchdown probe extending from the LM's landing gear footpad (right side of photo). It contained a sensor to let the astronauts in the LM know when the landing gear was about to touch the lunar surface.
Upon landing, the four-foot-long probe bent to one side under the LM footpad, as this one did. You can see the gold insulation at its end as it pokes up from the soil.
MadHighway 1 month ago
@MadHighway Got it. Hadn't seen the golden insulation sticking out.
harrysadoyan 1 month ago
@harrysadoyan
- What is that a shadow of? And why is it not parallel or even similar angle to the astronauts shadow. -
It IS parallel. The shadow is cast in the width not the length.
And it could not be a second light source since they light source would create a second shadow and both shadows would not be that dark because of the other light source.
obaeyens 1 month ago
@harrysadoyan Just look at it this way, if there really are two lightsources, as the Deniers claim, why arent there two separate shadows?
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
Can someone explain how there is a shadow cast in front of the astronaut in the beginning yet the front of the astronaut is bright as thought there is a light on the front of him?
sickwitit916 1 month ago
@sickwitit916 DOH! You didn't watch the whole video. You didn't even make it to 3 minutes!
[tsk-tsk]
:)
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@sickwitit916
- yet the front of the astronaut is bright as thought there is a light on the front of him? -
If you claim that there is a second fill light illuminating the astronaut then where is the second shadow that this light source would cause?
obaeyens 1 month ago
how could u know anything about landing a LEM on the moon?
48mmwatch 1 month ago
@48mmwatch
How could you know anything?
Rob260259 1 month ago
@Rob260259 from being conscious.
48mmwatch 1 month ago
took me about 3 minutes to hit the pause button on the pic of the girl in a bikini...
ThePurpleHarpoon 1 month ago
@ThePurpleHarpoon LOL... you're better than I am!
I'll never do that again, since it apparently totally distracted people from the important point I was making. Bad place for a joke.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
lol random picture of the girl
RedRider7240 1 month ago
the APOLLO videos are bad quality because hand held camera's were new.
assassinklanairsoft 1 month ago
@assassinklanairsoft Well, the video cameras weren't hand held, but you're right about the quality being the result of making cameras very small for that era -- and the distance that the signals had to be transmitted.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@assassinklanairsoft Apollo TV was analog and very limited by the communications link - 10 or 20 watts over 390,000 km! It used a custom "field sequential color" TV format, sending one blue field, then green and red. Moving objects broke up into colored confetti. When converted for broadcast on Earth, half the vertical resolution was discarded. There was interference to the video from telemetry. Amazing it worked at all, but we could do so much better today.
ApolloWasReal 1 month ago
@assassinklanairsoft digicam , so advanced for those days , they used the same idea using codec at band 12Khz tv transmission but with darpa's recorder , basically like the bitmac but the size of the reels they had for their fortrans computers
jmm1233 1 month ago
if anyone believes we havent been to the moon, you are a complete and utter dumb ass
michiman57 1 month ago
What does Maxim have to do with moon landings?
TheWebkinzrulez 1 month ago
@TheWebkinzrulez Nothing.
All of my moon hoax videos have some kind of joke. Many of them are quite irrelevant -- just for fun. Perhaps my placement of this joke was bad, since it probably distracts from the important point I was making at the time about fall-off.
Oh well, live and learn.
In my videos you will also find Kilroy, Homer Simpson, Dino the dinosaur, a bong, and Alfred Hitchcock, McDonald's arches, a Coke machine, and a crane on the moon.
"Yes, we did" also appears in all of them.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
try this,
watch all the jarrah white videos, then tell me how you feel about the moon landings.
48mmwatch 1 month ago
@48mmwatch
I watched many of them. They are a shame. To anyone with real expertise, Jarrah is a joke. He patently doesn't know what he's talking about, and he steadfastly refuses to engage the world's experts in open debate. Do you know the website Clavius Moonbase and ApolloHoax . net? Do you wonder why he does not show up there? I think you and I know what would happen if he ever had to defend his theories in such a forum against people who actually know what they're talking about.
Rob260259 1 month ago
@48mmwatch All 400 of them?
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@48mmwatch Jarrah is a lunatic, and his videos are laughable. Jarrah believes shuttle Challenger was a deliberate assassination of Christa MacCaliffe. Do you agree?
Fact is we know him better than you do. We've been arguing with him far longer than you've been agreeing with him, and there's nothing in any video of his that hasnt been refuted. Ever.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 month ago
About the stars not being visible photographs, thats quite easily explained. Many cameras arent that well equipped to capture the lights from the stars, since the light is too weak. I took a picture with my cellphone camera (not a bad camera at all at least way better than the ones they had back then), and a picture i took of the sky at night was completely black even though the stars were perfectly visible to the naked eye. Not sure what kind of camera you have, but try it yourself.
Khorney 2 months ago
I saw a girl at 1:40 :)
Khorney 2 months ago
there was a camera "left behind". turn it on and aim it at the earth.
48mmwatch 2 months ago
@48mmwatch They took several pictures of the earth while they were on the moon. I don't know if they took any video shots of the earth from the cameras left on the moon. It would probably be pretty disappointing, though. Those cameras weren't able to send very high quality images from that distance.
The Apollo 11 crew did make a video showing the earth when they were about half way to the moon. As for stuff left on the moon, we still use the laser reflectors left there.
Astrobrant2 2 months ago
@Astrobrant2 i mean right now. turn the camera on and broadcast it on tv.
prove its there.
48mmwatch 2 months ago
@48mmwatch Sorry, but the cameras they left on the moon are no longer working. And the warranty ran out 40 years ago! Besides, would that add anything to the vast amount of evidence presented by Apollo already?
There are pictures of the landing sites from the LRO. Have you seen them?
Astrobrant2 2 months ago
@Astrobrant2 AND the stars are missing from the pictures because of astronomers knowledge of their positions in space.
48mmwatch 2 months ago
@48mmwatch No, the stars are missing from pictures because the cameras, set for sunlit subjects, were using exposures 1000 to 10,000 times too fast to pick up stars. Anyone who has ever done astrophotography, (like myself), understands this.
Are you saying that they didn't know star positions well enough to fake them?
Astrobrant2 2 months ago
@Astrobrant2 apparently.
48mmwatch 2 months ago
@48mmwatch No, not "apparently." You are accusing a great many people of fraud, so I am calling on you to back that up. "Apparently" doesn't cut it. So I ask again, are you saying they didn't know enough about star positions in 1969 to have faked them in a backdrop?
If you are, don't feel bad. EVERY hoax nut eventually exposes his/her utter ignorance. Just look at all the others who have come by here and done the same thing.
Astrobrant2 2 months ago
@Astrobrant2 the moon "landing" is a religion. Its belief. you cannot prove they went. u have ONE government agency in control of all pictures videos and radio. puhleese.
48mmwatch 2 months ago
@48mmwatch Are they in control of the many hundreds of geologists all over the world who examined moon rocks and published their findings in peer-reviewed journals? Were they in control of the Soviets, who monitored our missions?
It's not a religion. It is an irrefutable fact. But you are more than welcome to present your evidence against Apollo. Let's see if it's anything new, or just the same garbage that has been getting debunked for the last 35 years.
Astrobrant2 2 months ago
@Astrobrant2 theres a moon rock between your ears. helium 3 is found on earth moon rocks can be found on the polar caps.
look up werner von braun in antactic looking for moon rocks.
48mmwatch 2 months ago
@48mmwatch Was this your response to my invitation to present your evidence?
What does He3 have to do with Apollo?
Would it make any difference to you if you found out that lunar meteorites weren't identified until several years AFTER Apollo? Do you realize that the TOTAL of lunar meteorites found all over the earth is something like 14 pounds? We brought back 840 pounds of lunar material. Hundreds of pounds have been examined by hundreds of geologists all over the world.
Next?
Astrobrant2 2 months ago
@Astrobrant2 Correction: 100 pounds of lunar meteorites have been identified. And ALL of them SINCE Apollo.
In fact, the discovery of these being of lunar origin was because we had some knowledge of lunar rocks brought back by Apollo, and similarities were spotted that would not have been noteworthy if we hadn't studied the rocks brought back from the moon.
Astrobrant2 2 months ago