RADIF (The Traditional Repretory of Iranian Classical Music) - ردیف موسیقی ایران

[seenataghavi]

heavy persian accent

but good work

[filsoofimusic]

love the video! But a question from mr.Pirniakan?! has anyone seen Ali Akbar khan-e Farahani , mirza hossein gholi khan ,or Mirza Abdollah's Fingers while their playing radifs?! and Is radif only for setar & tar! How about Vocals! where there is no finger involved?!

[momostofi]

Thanks for your comment. Im not Mr. Pirniakan but I might be able to answer some questions, if you dont mind.

Yes, people have seen the people you named while they played the Radifs. All of these people had a lot of students, and some very special ones, which spent years and years and years learning in their classes, and therefore they saw and imitated all the techniques involved with the fingers and the Mezrab.

[momostofi]

Farahani's nephew and his son Hasan Khan, were his special students, and were the ones who taught the Radifs to Mirza Abdollah and Mirza Hoseingholi, and each of the latter had a lot of students that lived in our century such as Ali Akbar Khan Shahnazi (Mirza Hosein Ghili's son), Noorali Boroomand, AliNaghi Vaziri, Darvish Khan and etc.

In this video, Pirniakan is specifically talking about Tar and Setar, which are his instruments of expertise.

[momostofi]

However, vocals have their own Radifs, and they too have specific ways of reading musical sentences in different Dastgahs. One of tte most important things about the vocal Radif, is how the Tahreers are dealt with.

[filsoofimusic]

thx Mr.Mostofi , beautiful explanation. I guess Mr.pirniakan probably was only talking about Tar& setar , But Still we have to Admit all these great students that has become wonderful musicians have their on taste in terms of using , playing and even teaching Radif... So the Radif is being played By master alizadeh or Lotfi may not exactly sound like the TAR of Mirza hosseingholi khan but they sure are aware of the old method and now they play it with their own flavore

[momostofi]

You are absolutely right! Maybe not Lotfi, but Alizadeh has his own style of fingering and Mezrab and holding the Tar, while he is definitely aware of the old style, since he has been a student to Ali Akbar Shahnazi.

However as you said, every player might have his own taste, and thats what makes the music beautiful!!

[momostofi]

Of course I dont mean that Lotfi is not an innovative player; what I mean is that as he says, he is really fund of using the Radif methods in his playing, however I have seen in some videos that he neglects them and changes sth in order to make a better sound :)

[goodcyrus]

Many parts of the Radif are older than the setar and tar and were played on Barbat for centuries. Pirniakan is probably referring to some tar techniques created in the past century or two for playing the radif more efficiently. As with most people whose lineage go to Mirza Hoseyn Gholi, he is very picky about practicing and technique. I find Mirza Hoseyn's lineage of students as very tough and strict people about music, whereas Mirzah Abdolah lineage more relaxed and more artsy.

[smasoumi3]

Merci aali bood.

[diuspater]

مسابقه ء تند خونیه ؟

[Arash0o0o]

wow,such a nice video clip,where can we get some more info.....?does this have a part 2,3 or so !-

[zayid1989]

Woow, we should have more videos about the persian music

[btouri]

Thanks for sharing.