@ladyinred868 I would agree that it is not ALL Albert's fault, but a portion of the blame does belong to him... He knew it was wrong to smoke the pipe and was a party to what happened
I'm impressed at the mature way in which Andy took the death of his mother, that speaks high of him, (a not so much for Jonathan) because after all, the strongest of loves is the love a child feels for his mother
You can't help but feel sorry for Mr. Garvey and his son as well. If I remember right, they had a short separation not long before this happened. That's gotta be so hard.
You know alll Alice would have had to do was wrap Adam Jr in a thick blanket, break the window and JUMP! She would have survived, and Adam jr would have lived. Because God looks after babies. Alice might have broken her leg or arm but would have survived. JUMP ALICE JUMP!
@Sheri451 You know, I thought the exact same thing for a long time. But if you look closely, the windows and the frames were very small...you couldn't throw a baby out those windows.
I do feel really bad for Albert, because he is such a sweet kid...he didn't mean to cause the fire, it was just an accident and of course he feels awful about it.
how do you lecture somebody who just wants to crawl in a hole and die? the guilt is eating him up, and he has to face the horrible truth that he can never make this right. hes in hell right now and he doesnt need a lecture.
I should rephrase something I said....I dont mean it is the fault of LHOTP that kids are the way they are...it is because people dont take matters like this seriously that kids are the way they are today,....Just thought I should clarify...and again...it is my opinion and I am entitled to have one just as you are Loverofstrait!!
It is because of this that nowadays kids just do whatever they want and just get a slap on the wrist when they should be punished. Maybe it would teach kids to think before acting....but that is just my opinion. I have raised 2 kids to adulthood so I think I know a little about raising children and Albert SHOULD feel guilty about what he did even though he was forgiven. I know I would feel very guilty for the rest of my life if I did something like that.
Of course you would feel guilty, but it wasn't on purpose, he didn't mean to cause the fire that killed Mary's baby. He has forgiveness and he will have to move on with his life. To say that he SHOULD feel guilty about something that wasn't on purpose for the rest of his life, is a bit harsh i think.
I cant believe comments im reading in other parts to this episode. Ppl are trying to blame someone for the the deaths. it was all an accident! Alot are blaming Albert. Stop attacking the poor kid. I read some one say he needed to be punished, Im sure he was already punished enough to have this on his conscious,
Im shocked people are expressing so much hate towards Albert.
Are people watching lhotp and l learning anything by it or what?
If it was your child who was killed in the fire I think you would think differently. I realize that LHOTP is about forgiveness and understanding and I LOVE this show but he was not reprimanded in any way whatsoever. Not even a little lecture about the fact that what he did was wrong and cost people their lives. I love Albert but what he did was devastating to others.
Jonathon even says it was an accident, so why you expressing so much guilt towards him? OBVIOUSLY albert knew what he did since he ran away. He thought they would think it was his fault & disown him but no one did because they saw it was an accident. if you want to look at actually facts it was the other boy clay who originally stole the pipe & through the pipe down & left it.
but this tragidy happened accidentally not intentionally .
No one said it was intentional...but it wasn't an accident either. It was caused because of the mischief of 2 boys. If they had not been mischief and went to smoke downstairs.....and they knew it was wrong because they were hiding....there would have been no fire and therefore no deaths. I dont get why you feel that these boys should not have been lectured about it.
At this point in the two-part series, I can understand how hard this might have been on Andy Garvey; not only did he lose his mother, but he felt he was also losing his father.
Mary has too much makeup,... it has distracted me from all the good work of those incredible actors. I had read somewhere that Michael's 3rd wife was Mary's make-up girl... well,... It was not a good job !
Yes, the name of the epi is "Author, Author." In this epi, Mary is pregnant for the second tima and gives birth. Her 1st pregnancy is in the epi "Sounds of Children."
They left to live in the city. Work become slow in Walnut Grove, so Charles thought it would be best for the family. By the way, the New Beginning focuses more so on Laura's life with her husband Almanzo as well.
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Will never forget this episode it was what I was watching on 9/11/01 when the attacks started
gmanexiledj 1 month ago
I'm no doctor by a longshot, but I wonder if Mary's going though some type of post-tramatic stress disorder?
reneecalling 5 months ago
How come it pauses a lot
1princessmarie 5 months ago
when mary hums that lullaby song its kind of freaky
onebillionand1 6 months ago
I don't know why everybody keeps saying that it's all Alberts fault he didn't even throw the pipe the other kid did!
ladyinred868 6 months ago
@ladyinred868 I would agree that it is not ALL Albert's fault, but a portion of the blame does belong to him... He knew it was wrong to smoke the pipe and was a party to what happened
PreciousShadow2 5 months ago
Mary still manages to do her makeup in a catatonic state. Nice. xD
peaceloveandtofu5 8 months ago 2
@peaceloveandtofu5
Maybe somebody did it for her, like her mom or sister ?
nydia277 1 month ago
I think Mary is the character who suffered the most out of all the characters ! Like really, in comparision Laura's life is a peaceful river flow
1480mathias 10 months ago
u can c the actor who played Andy on "jag"
candlelight482 1 year ago
did Albert said portuguese at 4:00?
QueenBrendaSIV 1 year ago
@QueenBrendaSIV no, it was english. It was a poem.
linkaqt1 9 months ago
@QueenBrendaSIV yes.
babylover0990 5 months ago
I'm impressed at the mature way in which Andy took the death of his mother, that speaks high of him, (a not so much for Jonathan) because after all, the strongest of loves is the love a child feels for his mother
QueenBrendaSIV 1 year ago
You can't help but feel sorry for Mr. Garvey and his son as well. If I remember right, they had a short separation not long before this happened. That's gotta be so hard.
JeniBurton213 1 year ago
You know alll Alice would have had to do was wrap Adam Jr in a thick blanket, break the window and JUMP! She would have survived, and Adam jr would have lived. Because God looks after babies. Alice might have broken her leg or arm but would have survived. JUMP ALICE JUMP!
Sheri451 1 year ago
@Sheri451 You know, I thought the exact same thing for a long time. But if you look closely, the windows and the frames were very small...you couldn't throw a baby out those windows.
JeniBurton213 1 year ago
I do feel really bad for Albert, because he is such a sweet kid...he didn't mean to cause the fire, it was just an accident and of course he feels awful about it.
peaceloveandtofu5 1 year ago
how do you lecture somebody who just wants to crawl in a hole and die? the guilt is eating him up, and he has to face the horrible truth that he can never make this right. hes in hell right now and he doesnt need a lecture.
ThePolkadotbikini 2 years ago 7
Easily the most depressing episode of the series.
CarlaLR74 2 years ago 19
@CarlaLR74 yes i agree
MrPinkdiamond 2 months ago
Poor Andy first his mother dies then his father starts getting drunk and acting todally out of the ordinatry
nicolestarshooter 2 years ago 5
not only that but his real-life brother killed his tv mom! (albert in real life was andy's brother)
scissors554 2 years ago 16
yea adopted i think in real life
rainbowgirl678 2 years ago
@scissors554 who killed who? please reply
linkaqt1 9 months ago
I should rephrase something I said....I dont mean it is the fault of LHOTP that kids are the way they are...it is because people dont take matters like this seriously that kids are the way they are today,....Just thought I should clarify...and again...it is my opinion and I am entitled to have one just as you are Loverofstrait!!
Princessfdo 2 years ago 2
It is because of this that nowadays kids just do whatever they want and just get a slap on the wrist when they should be punished. Maybe it would teach kids to think before acting....but that is just my opinion. I have raised 2 kids to adulthood so I think I know a little about raising children and Albert SHOULD feel guilty about what he did even though he was forgiven. I know I would feel very guilty for the rest of my life if I did something like that.
Princessfdo 2 years ago
Of course you would feel guilty, but it wasn't on purpose, he didn't mean to cause the fire that killed Mary's baby. He has forgiveness and he will have to move on with his life. To say that he SHOULD feel guilty about something that wasn't on purpose for the rest of his life, is a bit harsh i think.
danceyourdoubtsaway 2 years ago
It seems like they just did not take the opportunity to make kids see that they cannot just do things like this with no regard whatsoever.
Princessfdo 2 years ago 2
Awwe, this episode is the saddest little house episode I've ever seen! What season is this from?
sevenwicks 3 years ago 3
I believe...if I am not mistaken that this is from Season 4....
Princessfdo 2 years ago
Nope.. this is from season 6.
I cant believe comments im reading in other parts to this episode. Ppl are trying to blame someone for the the deaths. it was all an accident! Alot are blaming Albert. Stop attacking the poor kid. I read some one say he needed to be punished, Im sure he was already punished enough to have this on his conscious,
Im shocked people are expressing so much hate towards Albert.
Are people watching lhotp and l learning anything by it or what?
Stop all the hate.
loverofstrait 2 years ago
If it was your child who was killed in the fire I think you would think differently. I realize that LHOTP is about forgiveness and understanding and I LOVE this show but he was not reprimanded in any way whatsoever. Not even a little lecture about the fact that what he did was wrong and cost people their lives. I love Albert but what he did was devastating to others.
Princessfdo 2 years ago 2
Mary & jonathon dont blame Albert .
Jonathon even says it was an accident, so why you expressing so much guilt towards him? OBVIOUSLY albert knew what he did since he ran away. He thought they would think it was his fault & disown him but no one did because they saw it was an accident. if you want to look at actually facts it was the other boy clay who originally stole the pipe & through the pipe down & left it.
but this tragidy happened accidentally not intentionally .
loverofstrait 2 years ago
No one said it was intentional...but it wasn't an accident either. It was caused because of the mischief of 2 boys. If they had not been mischief and went to smoke downstairs.....and they knew it was wrong because they were hiding....there would have been no fire and therefore no deaths. I dont get why you feel that these boys should not have been lectured about it.
Princessfdo 2 years ago
At this point in the two-part series, I can understand how hard this might have been on Andy Garvey; not only did he lose his mother, but he felt he was also losing his father.
furrypurrylove 3 years ago 4
Mary has too much makeup,... it has distracted me from all the good work of those incredible actors. I had read somewhere that Michael's 3rd wife was Mary's make-up girl... well,... It was not a good job !
ginlep 3 years ago
agreed.
marialaylac 3 years ago 2
I agree also.
furrypurrylove 3 years ago
does mary ever have anymore children
Dixxie16 3 years ago
No... : (
Emotional2000 3 years ago
@Dixxie16 in RL? she never had any at all.... but on the show, she doesn't have anymore
PreciousShadow2 5 months ago
Do you have the episode that Mary's Baby was born in?
Padme1992 3 years ago 3
Yes, the name of the epi is "Author, Author." In this epi, Mary is pregnant for the second tima and gives birth. Her 1st pregnancy is in the epi "Sounds of Children."
Emotional2000 3 years ago
Poor mary sad episod. She lost her child :(
Tiredofmidnaever 3 years ago
Poor Albert. You gotta tell someone, please. Please, tell someone, it'll help!!
Oh, this is so sad!
Hummol 3 years ago 8
Where did Charles and Caroline go? LHOP New Beginning was focused around the olsen's which were good.. I like the Olsen's they are funny
Etherialshroud 4 years ago
They left to live in the city. Work become slow in Walnut Grove, so Charles thought it would be best for the family. By the way, the New Beginning focuses more so on Laura's life with her husband Almanzo as well.
Emotional2000 4 years ago
i'm new to the scene and using my cuzin's account, was albert adopted?
Philippines7 4 years ago
Yes Philippines, Albert is adopted...
Emotional2000 4 years ago
sorry i didn't see that you had already replie to phillippines7
AndersonGish 4 years ago
Its ok. :)
Emotional2000 4 years ago
yes albert was adopted
AndersonGish 4 years ago
that's creepy how she keeps humming that song
Etherialshroud 4 years ago 7
who keep hummin?
AndersonGish 4 years ago
Mary...
Emotional2000 3 years ago
Who do you think? They have been saying it all through the entire episode!!
ChildOfTheSettingSun 3 years ago
charles and caroline have a lovely realation ship
xLaura81x 4 years ago 2
Absolutely xLaura81x! Their relationship was the glue that held the wonderful world of the Prairie together!
hawkwind5 4 years ago 6
Very true hawkwind5! The show did not progress after Ma & Pa left LHOP.
Emotional2000 4 years ago