Gore Denies that Ken Lay, Goldman Sachs CEOs Helped Develop C02 Trading 'Scheme'

[7Hook]

Al, if you are interested in addressing the crisis, you shouldn't be making money off it at the same time. It kinda makes people wonder about your motives and the what the truth is about climate change.

[IMOM1]

Disgusting misinformation and not from Gore. The fiscal problems were under the Bush administrations watch.

[drkstrong]

Scalise said that Gore was partnered with executives of Goldman (note the present tense) the caption said that Blood was part of GS until 2003 - 6 years before this hearing (past tense). So Gore jhas no association th ewith GS. He was telling the truth.

[CRAPCANNONS]

@drkstrong

Yes just ignore the major point of the video, that Al Gore developed the carbon trading scheme with Dick Cheney's friend Ken Lay; just pretend you didn't hear that. Pretend there is no conflict of interest.

"Generation Investment Management LLP owns a 2.98% stake in the Climate Exchange, which in turn owns the Chicago Climate Exchange. This gives Al Gore a financial bias towards promoting global warming control through the trading of carbon credits."

It's called denial. Enjoy it.

[drkstrong]

@CRAPCANNONS I think that is called capitalism - you against that? Gore saw a problem and saw a way of making $s off it. That does not make the problem any the less real.

[CRAPCANNONS]

@drkstrong

No - you're against it. You only tolerate capitalism if a cartel has disguised it as socialism (you probably thought Obamacare wasn't a bailout for the insurance industry.) You KNOW there's a corrupt conflict of interest at the center of this but you choose to ignore because it causes cognitive dissonance in your worldview. Which makes you and your lot a bunch of HYPOCRITES.

Delusional loons like you are hopeless.

[drkstrong]

@CRAPCANNONS Sigh, you answer what I dont ask and ignore what I do. Does the fact that anyone might make $s off related schemes make the problem any the less urgent? I was a senior manager in the aerospace industry. At our staff meetings we went over the weeks news, rumors, and industrial intelligence. The first question asked about every item was "Is there a way of making $s off of this?" In fact that was how I got into studying GW, we were looking for projects to propose to show the Sun did it

[CRAPCANNONS]

@drkstrong - PT 1

"Does the fact that anyone might make $s off related schemes make the problem any the less urgent?"

France determined that if everyone there lived a 0-impact life it would still have 0 climate impact, but nutcases tried to force it through to 'lead by example'.

India and China are the future mega-polluters but have no intention of acknowledging the IPCC findings, even if they were honest.

The goal isn't to save the planet; it's mass fraud to tax the West's middle class.

[drkstrong]

@CRAPCANNONS None of this changes the physics o fthe atmosphere or the fact that it is heating up unusually and inexplicably rapidly.

Throw away al the above soltuions and then tell us what you would do to stop rising temperatures, sea level, and increasing ocean acidity,

[CRAPCANNONS]

@drkstrong - PT 2

The fact that you blithely admit that you were complicit in trying spin research to turn it into some money-making scheme just shows you're just another one of these bitter cynical careerists like John Holdren, Phil Jones, Michael Mann, etc, who doesn't care about people OR the planet and only care about grant money.

Luckily you loons are terrible at hiding your agenda and motives very well and are getting called out on it, as the below clip illustrates;

/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM

[drkstrong]

@CRAPCANNONS I worked in industry where the object of everything we did was to make a larger profit for our shareholders. Nobody said there was any spin, in fact we concluded that the science of AGW was so solid that there was no $s to be made despite the politicans wanting to hear that there was

US government employees (Holdren and Hansen) dont compete for grant $s as they get their salary no matter what they do and cant get more. Academia does but the $s dont go to them but to pay students

[CRAPCANNONS]

@drkstrong

"we concluded that the science of AGW was so solid that there was no $s to be made" Well clearly Gore came up with a snake oil formula where you couldn't.

Private, bureaucrats, or academics- you crooks are cut from the same cloth.

Where ever you get your money from, in this AGW scheme, using 'tricks' and 'hiding declines' hasn't done your camp any favors. Because you lied to arrive at your ends, Copenhagen was a bust and India and China blew it off.

Enjoy the next Climategate.

[drkstrong]

@CRAPCANNONS Oh the old "tricks" & "decline" argument. You do know that "trick" has several meanings - one as in a "trick of the trade" was how this was clearly meant. Besides he used the same work in the title of one of his papers about this subject - not much of a trick if you tell everyone first if that was the intention which it was not

The decline is not in temperature but in the correlation between tree rings & global temperatures. Jones is famous because he first published the result

[CRAPCANNONS]

@drkstrong Oh the old "`trick' has several meanings" argument. Is there another meaning to why Jones went into hiding? "Ice Break: Top scientist resigns over 'Climate Hoax' scandal" or... "UN climate panel admits mistake" or... "IPCC Scientist: 30 Years of Global Cooling" or... "Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration" There are hundreds of these. Your job seems to be fraud. But unlike a cult-member who is beyond deprogramming, you actually KNOW it's a fraud. Keep it up.

[drkstrong]

@CRAPCANNONS

It is clear from theWHOLE message and the previous and folowing correspondance what he means.

There is no record of Joones going into hiding - quit making stuff up

Jones did not resign, he stepped down during the 3 UK enquiries (which all cleared him) and he is back in charge

You try writing a 3000 page report authored by 2500 people without a single mistake

The 30-years of global cooling prediction has alredy gone south with the hottest 12 month period on record

[Dayversion]

@CRAPCANNONS Once the average person realizes that the very same Oil and other corporations that the Global Warmers have been lying to us for years accusing skeptics of being paid by Oil Corporations when the opposite is true, then they will lose what little support they have left. Input into youtube "The Cap and Trade Story" it's put out by AGW believers but there saying its a scam

If the AGW solution, is not a solution, then the problem is not a problem. Common sense would tell you that.

[dignankumar]

You can tell by Gore's body language that he's lying.

[blanlapa]

Gore No1 danger for the environment!!!

[PukkPukk]

Why are the Goldman Sach bankers cross examined by Senators???? Senetors push and vote for and against new laws. They do not interpret the law, this is the job of the Supreme Court.

[Thisawareness]

Gore brazenly lied to Louisiana Rep Steve Scalise when the Congressman asked him about his ties to Goldman Sachs After claiming that there is a consensus on the science of global warming (a lie in itself) Gore flatly stated that he wishes he did, but he doesn't have financial interests with Goldman Sachs April 27 issue of Fortune magazine reports that 6 months after Gore became a partner in Kleiner Perkins,Kleiner Perkins joined Goldman Sachs in financing Terralliance an oil exploration firm!

[louiethegreater]

Remember Al Gore, selling NAFTA. Remember him debating Ross Perot.

[Thisawareness]

Al Gore: Pied Piper for the Carbon Credit Crusade

Al Gore brings emotional fervor to his carbon crusade He travels the country displaying charts&graphs quoting scientific experts& appealing to philosophers&religious leaders to save the planet from global warming But he says nothing about his business partners who yearn to trade on the emerging carbon market And the media pay no attention to the companies offering carbon advisory services that will profit from federal carbon emission controls

[Thisawareness]

Gore a partner in Kleiner-Perkins

Former Vice President Al Gore is a partner in Silicon Valley powerhouse Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, boosting the firm's position as a clean tech investor

Under the deal, Generation Investment Management, the investment firm co-founded by Mr. Gore with former Goldman Sachs executive David Blood in 2004, will work closely with Kleiner Perkins.

The web grows larger the more you research.

"RICO" "RICO" "RICO"

[IlluminatiSeer]

didnt they try and change it to Climate change instead of Global warming? What a scammer

[newbutton7]

Al Gore can't even lie right. He gets caught in a lie and you can tell right away

[PennyRoyaleTea]

It's a good thing he can't lie well. Shows he still has a conscious.

[arcart0]

We waste far too much energy, a good example is the vacuum cleaner.

Air Recycling Technology if used in Vacuum Cleaners could actually save each year in the UK, an amount of energy equal to that generated by 800 Medium sized wind generators.

That is 1.5 TWh of electricity worth £225,000,000 and 650,000 Tonnes of CO2, Emissions. And a saving of more than 25 Twh of electricity annually is possible in the EU. Equal to £3.25 billion pounds and 13.5 million tonnes of CO2.Emissions.

[nickopen]

How many americans vote?

I'm australian and we all vote because that's our government system.

Isn't it scary to think we put so much trust in politicians to lead us in the right direction. Thy're making decisions for us, being our voice, what if they're so wrong and we're the one's who pay for it.

It's a scary thought.

[rocktheflow]

It's not just a scary thought - it's a reality. I am yet to see our Australian Government do anything right in the entire time I've been interested in politics - both liberal and labor.

[markdcarter]

Do you have to support the government system, vote, pay taxes? What would happen if enough Australians decided not to? Might you gain more freedom and justice?

Do your politicians tell the truth to the people they're supposedly serving? If not, why fund their ongoing dishonesty?

Do you fear the consequences of standing up for yourself?

I suggest the solution is to decide you're going to take responsibility; be your own voice; and stop enabling official criminality. Personal sovereignty!

[grisza77]

all fear of manbearpig! half man, half bear and half pig! fear I say!

Al Gore is such a douche...

[LawyerScumGhost]

Gore and some scum sucking former Goldman Sachs pricks have already prepared a company to trade in the "carbon credits" market. They will get rich at our expense, which is how the American "free economy" system works now.

[TiredOldFart]

It is worse than that. They have engineered a financial catastrophe for Americans. With supply side capped and the cap artificially ratched down through time, the inelastic supply side will cause prices to rise parabolically. They have set the schedule to explode after the next election.

Al Gore is Chairman of Generation Investment LTD. He stands to profit from cap and trade and that is why he pushes it. Generation Investment's board includes ex-Goldman Sachs speculators.

[6Do6llar6]

Al Gore needs to follow MJ

[cooljj82]

Gore is normally really slick, he just got OWNED though. Nice job Scalise!

[fls13ec]

He doesn't look too slick when he faces tough, legitimate questions. What an asshole.

[tommytimezzz69]

I used to believe that global warming was man made... then I started looking into the science behind the claims. I was shocked to find that Al Gore is a liar.

I recommend the documentary: 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' if you are interested in an alternative viewpoint. You can find it on google or youtube.

[JimmyGris]

Money for nothing, again. Oh yeah!

[pubajay]

I have one for ya. Isn't Ole Al the first to generate a billion dollars from global warming? Its all snake oil :(

[pearljammin94550]

What a manbearpig!!

[phospheneca]

didnt al gore claim to invent the internet? why is he credible all the sudden? lol Because he put out a big budget hollywood movie about global warming?

[geetryflb]

Gore is a disgusting arrogant liar.

[RUfistinme]

Bad Humans you must be taxed! During the last 15 years when all this GW bs has been building in intensity, the same companies that have been cranking out all the cheap disposable crap that they have trained you to buy are now going to sell you all the worthless shit that they say will help mother nature. This just is more " watch the birdie while I smash you in the fucking face" Last I checked plants use CO2, stop killing the green stuff with pollution, that I could get behind! not this turd!!!

[va1ha11a]

if Gore is worried about CO2 he should shoot himself, or at least stop flying in his private Jet.

What a hypocrite and liar.

[TiredOldFart]

Gore used 191,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006.

[drawingdead0]

he drove a caravan of 4 SUVs to win the nobel prize

[DEFYnwo]

gore liar!! liar!! may your pants catch fire

[Bassist8807]

Good God, Gore is a bumbling moron. Bjørn Lomborg wrote a book called "Cool It" that addresses much of Gore & the U.N.'s reports regarding human-caused global warming. Many of their figures are fudged, but don't take my word for it, go read it. People still read, right?

[Dewdaahman]

Gore has too much time on his hands.. The world will take care of itself however it doesn't help to send tons of poison into the air daily..

[Gendermalefromsweden]

since when is C02 a poison? its a carbon-molecule and two oxygen-molecules.

(yes, trees are bad of carbon, and so are you)

[hdtwoodsman]

Just submit the name of 1 study. And remember, it has to be 'peer reviewed.' Scientists hold studies to a higher standard than pols.

[louis12346]

TAX TAX TAX

[hdtwoodsman]

So, the scientific community overwhelmingly state that humans effect gw and you believe politicians. How exactly is the burden of proof on me?

[hdtwoodsman]

Please offer me 1 PEER REVIEWED scientific study that makes the claim that humans do not significantly influence gw. I'll happily read it.

[israelandersonvideo]

Um, sowwy, but the burden of proof is on YOU, not us. You don't prove negatives, you prove positives.

[LadyJacketSoccer11]

What is your email address....I can send you plenty.

[hdtwoodsman]

You can't start w/ a false premise and then insist Gore answer the question. He needs to correct them; claiming the science is still out on gw is untrue.

[northernwolf3]

hdtwoodsman, you might want to do some research on your own before you start making untrue claims.

There are a lot more scientists that have come forward and said there is no man made gw than scientists have said there is.

Gore is a fraud out to make money at your expense.

[meerkat1954]

The very advantage of carbon trading (or for that matter, carbon taxes) is they DON'T pick winners and losers - they put a price on carbon and let the marketplace sort out what the efficient amount to emit is. That's why carbon trading is the best approach that minds around the world and across the political spectrum have devised. If we do nothing, global warming will cause the greatest economic collapse in history as our food crops fail, cities are flooded, and air becomes unbreathable.

[snappa52]

the same people crying out about the environment are terra forming our planet with aerosols. cap and trade will stifle new industry, and destroy our economy. cap and trade is only for the western industrialized states. china and india will not fall under this system. there is a better way to do this other than cap and trade and carbon taxes. we need to get off fossil fuel and get on green energy, like Tesla's ambient electric energy

[meerkat1954]

So let me get this straight - you right-wing, pro-corporate, "private enterprise can do no wrong" types, are now arguing AGAINST the best capitalist solution to the problem we have available (carbon trading)?? The mind boggles as you losers flip-flop back and forth in what you believe. At the end of the day, it seems you people will be against EVERY type of environmental bill that could ever be enacted, because deep down you hate planet earth, your dog, and your own mother that bore you.

[lynnydobo]

Red Herring! Yes. You are correct about us evil conservatives. Your premise is that man-made GW is proven and consequently carbon trading is a "capitalist solution." Nice try. With respect you don't deserve, I feel compelled to tell you that whenever you can't make a valid point it is wise not to make it so blatant with comments such as "losers" and elementary generalizations like me hating the earth, my dog and my mom. Classic. How do these things apply to your "argument?"

[fls13ec]

Some people realize that the two political parties are two packs of con men running the same scam on opposite sides of the street. ;O)

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile.

[CoxXximus]

MANBEARPIG !!

[bbnemesis123]

Al Gore says that Climate Change exists. Al Gore says the fix is to cap and trade in which Al Gore's company will control the credits, the proceeds that Gore's company receives will be donated to a non-profit organization...guess what...Al Gore OWNS that non-profit organization. Al Gore REEKS of BS.

[bbnemesis123]

If Al Gore would have said that Climate Change exists, and here is TECHNOLOGY that will help or correct Climate Change....THEN I would believe Al Gore. He is so FULL of BS. There is a Singapore scientist that can change carbon dioxide into extremely clean burning methanol bio fuel. You will NEVER hear about this, because Al Gore and Cronies will use their money to stop this info from interfering in their cap and trade company scam.

[bbnemesis123]

**remove spaces in link to co2 biofuel**

ibtimes. com/articles/20090416/singapor­e-scientists-say-can-turn-co2-­into-biofuel. htm

[jeka100]

gore is a paid whore they all in that together(communist buddies) I am surprised that we actually have smart unbiased people in the commission

[ubermensche26]

Can we create a future markets for political hits?

[CarryANation]

"Carbon credits" are nothing but a scam to protect the biggest corporations from competition.

[Lazyboy0008]

All these GW nuts keep citing CO2 as some deadly poison when its one of the essential gasses for life. Notice they never talk about the real pollutants their friends in big industry pour into our air, water supply and food. GM foods are a far greater threat to humanity than fake man made global warming.

[CaptJJYossarian]

Tax oil imports, Tax coal, build nuclear power plants. Scrap Al Gore's cap&trade Enron style scam.

[y2knoproblem]

Man made GW is a FRAUD!!! Wake you GW freaks! Your worse than bible thumpers!!

[hdtwoodsman]

PEER REVIEW is the key term in science circles. There is NOT 1 peer reviewed study that claims man is not significantly influencing gw. Again, the same people who denied gw EXISTED 15yrs ago are now saying IT ISN'T THAT BAD. It's called backpedalling; done by scoundrels.

[Lazyboy0008]

Actually there are a number of peer review studies denying man-made global warming. Google it. Gore always avoids the debate by saying "the time for debate is over" or "there's a consensus among scientists". .. more like there's a consensus amongst is accountants that he's going to make a fortune from cap and trade.

[bagginshates]

I'm afraid scientists are whores for money and the BIG MONEY is in global warming. Money buys science.

[gismotech]

look people the air is cleaner than it has been in the last 50 years. Cars are cleaner, factories, power plants all cleaner.

man caused C02 is less than 3 percent of the total C02 released each year. The total C02 is less than 1/2 percent of the atmosphere. Do you really believe the tiny amount we cause is driving global warming???

you people need to get a grip and some common sense

[VisionQuest2012]

The government can change CO2 output through legislation. No need for this scheme. If the government wants change then subsidize companies working on electric vehicles,solar technology, wind, and other green technologies. By subsidizing these green technologies they will be able to kick start new industries. This carbon credit trading stuff sounds like another way to rip off the tax payer with nothing to show.

[hdtwoodsman]

I hope in 20 yrs the grandkids of these Rs ask them to explain their position on global warming. I don't think Gore will have any problem w/ his position at that time.

[gismotech]

NO BUT YOU WILL

are you really stupid enough to believe you can control the global temps?????

you do know that C02 is needed by plants

and your complaining about it going from .....34% to .....38% in the last 100 years. your a bigger nut than Al Gore

[hdtwoodsman]

Notice how the R Congressman alters the course when Gore presents him w/ the facts of global warming.

Gore tried to work w/ business in coming to a solution and now the Rs use it against him.

[jmo18799]

Where was this outrage from Gore for 8 yrs while he was V.P?And by the way im 29 yrs old.And I remember hearing in 97 by 2002 half of cali would be floating in the ocean.These scientist can predict by 2056 the world will melt..But yet can't find a cure for cancer.Scumbags.

[ewupawly]

holy shit Al Gore is a shill (not to mention DOUCHE BAG)

[Tyrannyresponder]

Scalise - Is it true you met with Enron exec Ken Lay when you VP about this trading scheme? Is it acurate? Is it inaccurate? Its been reported.

Gore - uhh..(oh shit he's on to me) I....I.....I don;t know. I met him before anyone knew he was a crook.

BULLSHIT!!

[ClioSmith]

BAIT AND SWITCH

Al gore correctly states that carbon emissions cause warming and that there is no valid scientific argument against that fact. What he fails to acknowledge is that the actual warming caused by human CO2 emissions is so miniscule as to be either nondetectable or nearly nondetectable. So what is going on in this exchange is a bait and switch tactic.

[Skeptical02]

Al Gore stands to make and has made a lot of money from this supposed "inconvenient truth". I am happy that some people that are still free thinkers and don't buy into this religion. I think that humans should obviously limit their damage to the environment as much as possible, but not at the expense of living like slaves.

[jkhayman]

Al Gore sold us out for a fucking Oscar. Cap and trade is one giant SCAM for the greedy bastards destroying America !

[coolwise1]

I agree on reducing pollutants in the air so it is cleaner to breathe. The more I read, the more I think the Global Warming is a scam to promote a cap and trade system to ruin our country further by export jobs to countries who don't care if they pollute the air.

[eurogoldexchange]

Dumb moronic republicans

[tHoM0r]

wow gore got destroyed. You can't dodge facts. Globalist scum

[feedbacksol]

Global warming is sucha scam pure excuse for overtaxing and tracking every action from every human on the planet the technology is there . They just need the right bullshit to pass their evil bill

[KingTingRolloTong]

1. ALL the planets in this solar system get hotter due to the sun is nearing it's maximum activity level (and the end of an 11year cycle in 2012)

2. the sun accounts for 99% of ALL mass in this system.

3. there is probably more contribution to GW due to nuclear bomb testings than decades of driving cars can create (we know how much heat and CO2++) is produced by only one explosion and many nations tested them, France, India, Russia, U.K. etc.

4. the Agenda is to get per person quotas and limits!

[greenback001]

Al Gore had desperation and a moment of panic on his face. These creeps have a lot of their future hanging on the Carbon Credits. The Central Banks are reshaping and a good many of the anglo-american syndacite are being forced out of some of their power and wealth and they're hoping to sink some fresh teeth (Carbon Derivative Trading done on Gore's Exchange netting him his very own Trillion Dollar Casino) Gore is a lowlife scumbag.

[sunnymarky]

well coming from a fantasist scumbag greenback , I know which one I will believe. A VP with the FACTS.

[LOOKatALLtheBEGGARS]

FACTS? Gimmi a break. Gore will go down as the proprietor of the largest manufactured lie in history. Maybe he should go invent the internet again.

[sunnymarky]

another gas guzzling american who doesnt give a stuff as the USA goes down the tubes economically and environmentally

[CRAPCANNONS]

Wow I had no idea Gore could be such a passive-aggressive dick.

Is there any reason why Gore refuses to debate with counter-arguers?

[AllianceCrusha]

nice mr.burgess ,you rock,Gore's looking like a dear in headlights

[AllianceCrusha]

Go Rep Scalise!! hee hee,shut up gore.

[AllianceCrusha]

Fat Ass Al Bore

[shutdownthefed]

al gore is a demon