You ask, "so did God say that man was immortal or was it Satan?" Neither said it. God breathed upon the body of Adam made from the dust and Adam bacame "a living soul." Adam had a material body, as spirit, and was a "living soul". Paul prayed that " your whole body, soul, and spirit, be preserved blameless" unto the Day of the Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thes.5:23 Man is made in the likeness of God, in the image of God. God has three aspects of His being (the godhead = entire being of God.)
(cont.) Man has three aspects to his being, as God does. Man is not three "persons" and God is not three "persons". A person, by definition, is an individual, separate and distinct from all other individuals. Obviously this is not possible in man, or in God. Death came into the world when sin came into the world. Rom.5:12. Prior to this there was no physical death. The body of man and of beast were not designed to die. They die now. There is no immortality in this material framework.
Satan told Adam and Eve "in the day you eat thereof", speaking of the forbidden tree and it's fruit, "ye shall be as gods". That they would never see death and become like God in wisdom and understanding. But, the day they ate of that fruit they began to die physically. When sin entered the world "death" followed it. Rom.5:12. God offers immortality only through the salvation of Christ, to those "faithful unto death", whom Christ promises a "crown of life", and a "better resurrection."1 Cor.15
Hmm, it never occurred to me about the wine for the stomach and leaving some sick.Good point.However, Paul had an infirmity throughout his ministry (some argue it was probably pink-eye) which he continually prayed that God would relieve him of, where God replied "My grace is sufficient for thee." So I don't think the gifts waning is a good enough argument, but Jesus' telling Thomas, "More blessed is he who believes without a sign" says much.
I don't expect someone who loves their sin more than God to understand a word I speak on the Lord's behalf, actually. So it is not a surprise that such folk think me to be a "moron" because I declare what God has said about any matter. It is all they are capable of, as the Word of God seems to them to be foolish and blind, it must. It is the way their mind is set up for destruction. Good is evil, folly is wisdom, evil is good, wisdom is folly, right is left, left is right. They are backwards.
Paul said that he "gloried" in his "many infirmities". This is speaking of physical illness. The Old Testament Law declared by the mouth of God, states, if God's people will repent and keep His Word/Law faithfully, "disease will not even be so much as mentioned in their land." This is the promise of God to Israel in the Old Testament covenant. They were incapable of such faithfulness and were therefore judged by God with the "rod of chastisement".This included even plagues, at different times.
The leaders of the charismatic movement, like Kuhlman, Roberts, Crouch, Wimber, Hinn, and all the rest of them....GO TO THE PHYSICIANS OF THIS WORLD. Kuhlman died in a hospital from a fatal disease. She claimed to be a prophet and a healer, just as Hinn does today. They are all antichrist and frauds, one and all. The true apostles had the "gifts of an apostle", "the signs of an apostle", this included healing, raising the dead, etc. Some of you people don't even listen to the videos, yet spew.
you know, before I continue watching all 300+ videos of yours, I would like to know if you are an expert in what you are talking about. Do you have a degree in theological/scriptural studies and consider yourself an expert? If not an expert per se, on what basis do you consider yourself an expert and why?
The proof of my calling and ministry is in the Word of God rightly divided and the power of God. If you are a spiritual child of God you will perceive this in viewing the material offered through this channel. Theological/Academic credentials are things the Apsotles of Christ did not have. Nor did the Lord Jesus Himself. Your standards need to be put in Biblical order. Please rethink your emphasis. Thanks.
a 'degree' comes from the world, not to talk aginst education, but we are all commanded to study the word of God (2 Tim 2:15 KJV)
now only that but over and over again we are all commaded to share the truth we learn with others, you dont have to be an expert to obay these commands
however as someone seeking information like yourself keep in mind that by watching videos your getting info about God from men (which is not perfect) be a good berean and study the scriptures yourself to check it :)
so did god say that man was immortal or was it satan?
timsh6 1 year ago
You ask, "so did God say that man was immortal or was it Satan?" Neither said it. God breathed upon the body of Adam made from the dust and Adam bacame "a living soul." Adam had a material body, as spirit, and was a "living soul". Paul prayed that " your whole body, soul, and spirit, be preserved blameless" unto the Day of the Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thes.5:23 Man is made in the likeness of God, in the image of God. God has three aspects of His being (the godhead = entire being of God.)
offline111 1 year ago
(cont.) Man has three aspects to his being, as God does. Man is not three "persons" and God is not three "persons". A person, by definition, is an individual, separate and distinct from all other individuals. Obviously this is not possible in man, or in God. Death came into the world when sin came into the world. Rom.5:12. Prior to this there was no physical death. The body of man and of beast were not designed to die. They die now. There is no immortality in this material framework.
offline111 1 year ago
Satan told Adam and Eve "in the day you eat thereof", speaking of the forbidden tree and it's fruit, "ye shall be as gods". That they would never see death and become like God in wisdom and understanding. But, the day they ate of that fruit they began to die physically. When sin entered the world "death" followed it. Rom.5:12. God offers immortality only through the salvation of Christ, to those "faithful unto death", whom Christ promises a "crown of life", and a "better resurrection."1 Cor.15
offline111 1 year ago
Hmm, it never occurred to me about the wine for the stomach and leaving some sick.Good point.However, Paul had an infirmity throughout his ministry (some argue it was probably pink-eye) which he continually prayed that God would relieve him of, where God replied "My grace is sufficient for thee." So I don't think the gifts waning is a good enough argument, but Jesus' telling Thomas, "More blessed is he who believes without a sign" says much.
rosemariefran 3 years ago
This bloke is a moron man! I've been emailing him for a few weeks and all he does is send me scripture quotes!!!!!! Good onya man....
MikkkkyB 2 years ago
I don't expect someone who loves their sin more than God to understand a word I speak on the Lord's behalf, actually. So it is not a surprise that such folk think me to be a "moron" because I declare what God has said about any matter. It is all they are capable of, as the Word of God seems to them to be foolish and blind, it must. It is the way their mind is set up for destruction. Good is evil, folly is wisdom, evil is good, wisdom is folly, right is left, left is right. They are backwards.
offline111 2 years ago
The bible is referring to medicine on this.
cfinn100 2 years ago
Paul said that he "gloried" in his "many infirmities". This is speaking of physical illness. The Old Testament Law declared by the mouth of God, states, if God's people will repent and keep His Word/Law faithfully, "disease will not even be so much as mentioned in their land." This is the promise of God to Israel in the Old Testament covenant. They were incapable of such faithfulness and were therefore judged by God with the "rod of chastisement".This included even plagues, at different times.
offline111 2 years ago
The leaders of the charismatic movement, like Kuhlman, Roberts, Crouch, Wimber, Hinn, and all the rest of them....GO TO THE PHYSICIANS OF THIS WORLD. Kuhlman died in a hospital from a fatal disease. She claimed to be a prophet and a healer, just as Hinn does today. They are all antichrist and frauds, one and all. The true apostles had the "gifts of an apostle", "the signs of an apostle", this included healing, raising the dead, etc. Some of you people don't even listen to the videos, yet spew.
offline111 2 years ago
you know, before I continue watching all 300+ videos of yours, I would like to know if you are an expert in what you are talking about. Do you have a degree in theological/scriptural studies and consider yourself an expert? If not an expert per se, on what basis do you consider yourself an expert and why?
bobbyke31 4 years ago
The proof of my calling and ministry is in the Word of God rightly divided and the power of God. If you are a spiritual child of God you will perceive this in viewing the material offered through this channel. Theological/Academic credentials are things the Apsotles of Christ did not have. Nor did the Lord Jesus Himself. Your standards need to be put in Biblical order. Please rethink your emphasis. Thanks.
offline111 3 years ago
a 'degree' comes from the world, not to talk aginst education, but we are all commanded to study the word of God (2 Tim 2:15 KJV)
now only that but over and over again we are all commaded to share the truth we learn with others, you dont have to be an expert to obay these commands
however as someone seeking information like yourself keep in mind that by watching videos your getting info about God from men (which is not perfect) be a good berean and study the scriptures yourself to check it :)
LogikosMan 3 years ago