ohmygoshness. that face. how does one not spoil these little guys!? i just had a *squee* moment. <3 and the smaller one was hissing because the flash scared him. sudden movement around any wildcat makes them go on the defensive. 8D
jesus. I'm pretty sure this is the only animal breed in the world that is born hissing and vicious. even badgers or wolverine babies would cuddle I bet. they should not be as cute as they are. it's not fair.
@musiictube Probably. Most predatory animals (including canines and humans) are born with either blue or brown eyes. All domestic cats are born with blues and cougars are too, so it's not much of a leap to theorize that the pallas' cat would be born with them as well. <3
@falcolf lol, ur kinda late for answering me question, I already finished my report about pallas cat, long time ago. but still thanks anyways for ur help :)
The central asian mountains and plateaus where this kawaii neko lives, are free of toxoplasmosis. Manul young have particularly weak immune responce to toxoplasma gondii, and are likely to die with 60-70% even in a zoo.
sad, but true. since their conservation in an isolated habitat after being named a protected species, they have been quarantined in an area where infection is highly rare. over time time their immune system weakened due to natural selection.
Most Pallas cat offspring die as kittens. If anything, most breeding attempts end up being a good way to LOSE a 'buck.' Setting up a proper breeding facility will put you out tens (to hundreds) of thousands of dollars at least. For making monetary profit, this is NOT they way to do it. hahaha! This is about the commitment and respect for a species of amazing cats.
oh that sucks. i really want one of them. i also want to get a cougar or a tiger maybe if i get rich. lol but i have 2 cats at home. i read about this cougar someone had and she got along with dogs and cats.
Try to find a place that houses exotics and volunteer with them. Once you learn what is entailed in the care and upkeep of an animal you can then make an informed decision. Animal care of this kind is a 24/7 commitment that most people can not handle. Irresponsible owners have made the effort to save species, including tigers, harder than it should be. Most of the tigers(Including all the white tigers.) in America are not true representations of the wild lines.
i want to go to college and learn how to be a big cat trainer or vet, but it's probably really hard to find that kind of job so idk what i'm going to do.
I just think people REALLY shouldn't take ANY wild animals as "pets" That's a very bad idea! There are SO many homeless little kittens every year, and adult cats too. Many will be definitely killled if they don't find a home. I suggest taking a normal kitty cat instead of a rare or endangered wild animal. This idea that it's okay to get some wild cat must be some kind of an American thing. Were I live we keep those kind of animals in the wild and in zoos where they belong!
Nowhere. There are few bloodlines in captivity and they are endangered in the wild, unlike other species sometimes sold as "house cats" (although none of them of course have the temperment of a domestic cat). I highly recommend you get a cat from your local shelter. I've worked with about 20 species of wild cats and would never want one in my house, I am very happy to live with domestic cats as companions.
Now those are some cute wee kittens! I noticed how much they were hissing....are they difficult to handle or were they just reacting to a new environment?
Good to hear that...any animal should be raised by it's mother if at all possible....it's good for 'em both mentally and physically, which of course you know. What is a Pallas cat's general disposition though? I've always heard that they can be rather fractious to deal with, and was wondering if this was true. They're so unusual looking and drop dead gorgeous it'd be hard to resist scooping one up for a cuddle, but judging by the look in their eye it's probably best to think twice about that.
In general they are not fractious, they avoid their keepers. Even when we have to catch them to transfer from one cage to another they do not strike at or try to bite us. We have two males that are a bit more aggressive that the rest, strangely enough they are two that seem to be infertile...
@wildcatzoo As I've heard it very, very hard to get these cats to bred at all, in the wild but especially in captivity - it's a miracle you have kittens!
I wish more people bred them at all. There really arent enough of them to start working with them as hybrids. Servals are very common in the wild. Their numbers are strong.
The bigger issue is lack of natural habitat. If theres no place for the animals to live, then there are no animals. The pet trade is really insignificant in the big picture. And I speak from first hand experience doing field research in s.e. asia and from working directly with a conservation biologist who has done field studies all over the world (africa, asia, s.e. asia, australia, etc, etc.)
Its not biologists who put blame on the pet trade for the decimation of species, its radical "AR" groups such as PETA and the HSUS. They are part of a general adgenda which is working to strip citizens of their rights. This goes for BSL, mandatory spay/ neuter, mandatory microchipping, mandatory vaccinations, increasing animal ownership bans, etc, etc. Its all on the same page. A slow, and methodic stripping of human rights and liberties.
Don't blame PETA or HSUS....blame the greedy irresponsible shits that generally run the so called "pet trade"...the cruel and inhuman treatment of gorgeous animals like this by people who care for nothing else but making a buck are the ones who ruin it for everyone. If we treated our animals the way they SHOULD be treated, PETA and the rest would have absolutely nothing to bitch about...sad to say neglect and cruelty for profit are the norm rather than the exception these days.
Actually, PETA wants total liberation for animals. They dont want humans to have ANYTHING to do with animals at all, no matter how well they are treated. That means NO pets, NO zoos, NO farms, NO service animals, no animals in captivity period. Thats the ultimate goal of this group.
I'm well aware of their extreme stance on this issue, and alot of this attitude is due to the fact that a great deal of humans can't be bothered to treat our fellow creatures with the mercy and compassion they rightly deserve. I don't always agree with their approach, but I do agree that animals have the right to live in a happy healthy environment no matter what their ultimate use is for..they're God's creatures just as we are and have a right to at least be cared for humanely.
Definitely, and I wholeheartedly agree. This view which you and I share is more in line with animal welfare, then animal rights. I am vice president of a local animal welfare coalition, run my own dog/ cat rescue rehoming center and activly promote responsible ownership of pets. I also fight for rights of humans in the battle we are waging against the AR groups. Im an animal lover, and a pet lover. I believe that miracles can happen in the formation of human/ animal bonds. We shouldnt lose that.
She also uses meds which have been derived after years of testing them on animals. Most AR advocates tend to be rather hypocritical, from what I have seen. This reminds me also of many so called "animal sanctuaries around the US. One "wolf sanctuary" website I was on last night "saved" all of their wolves from breeders as pups. Basically this means that they bought them and are claiming that they are legitimate rescues. Most (80%) were purchased at the typical 2 weeks of age and bottle raised.
These cats are being bred in captivity due to humans trapping the for the fur, I hate the idea of zoo's unfortunately this is only one way of keeping the breed alive, maybe we should skin the fur trader's and see how they like it?
The reality in this world is animal populations are going to be managed by humans. Wild areas are what humans decree them to be, and are often surrounded by roads - which are cages the animals don't understand.
These babies are a miracle - only eight were born in the North American line in the last several years. One at the Cincy Zoo, the rest at this facility.
The food this cat eats is killed (Poisons, bio war) which is primary fear for survival. Help captive efforts offset the damage.
The Cat House is responsible for breeding rare and endangered animals for the purpose of saving the species. This is not someone's home, this is a facility.
It's a wonderful facility, with many types of wild cats!
I worried about their sources (former pets, self breeding) but when I learned that the older Manuls they had were 'retired' from the San Diego Zoo, I wasn't worried about this place any more! SDZ would NEVER send any of their animals to a shoddy facility!!
We got to visit last year in April for a friend's b-day, it was awesome! I always want to go back even tho it's a bit of a drive from LA (about an hour north). It's worth it!
Im not certain, but thats a good question. I know that research is difficult because of the harsh terrain which they naturally live. They are especially prone to disease because in the wild they live in such isolated areas. I would bet that the Cincinnati Zoo would be a good source of such information though. They seem to be one of the leaders in captive feline propagation, as well as research of wild animal populations. They often back conservation minded research projects.
ohmygoshness. that face. how does one not spoil these little guys!? i just had a *squee* moment. <3 and the smaller one was hissing because the flash scared him. sudden movement around any wildcat makes them go on the defensive. 8D
o0Tamaki0o 3 months ago
jesus. I'm pretty sure this is the only animal breed in the world that is born hissing and vicious. even badgers or wolverine babies would cuddle I bet. they should not be as cute as they are. it's not fair.
Ikarimalice 7 months ago
@2431346 It's called instinct. They aren't even of the Felis Genus. These aren't housecats, bro. Otocolobus Manul. Lrn 2 science
PKBlackTornado2 11 months ago
damn, they are so awesome
swolocz07 1 year ago
I wanna be a zookeeper now!
Carterxbell 1 year ago
Lol they making hisssssssssssss,brave little things :D
DeliBasAli 1 year ago
манулятки!ути вы мои маленькие!
GTAKiberun 1 year ago
do pallascat babies have blue eyes like the housecat when they're young?
musiictube 2 years ago 2
@musiictube Probably. Most predatory animals (including canines and humans) are born with either blue or brown eyes. All domestic cats are born with blues and cougars are too, so it's not much of a leap to theorize that the pallas' cat would be born with them as well. <3
falcolf 1 year ago
@falcolf lol, ur kinda late for answering me question, I already finished my report about pallas cat, long time ago. but still thanks anyways for ur help :)
musiictube 1 year ago
soooo cute!!!!!
gabagogo 2 years ago
погладь кота
kruz200 2 years ago
Pet the kitten! Pet the kitten, bitcha!
SteelDMN 2 years ago
Wouldn't they just be called Pallas's Kittens?
aavallone 2 years ago
no because Pallas (Peter Simon ) was a man (human being) and it's not his kittens...he died
AngryPancake 2 years ago
@aavallone No, because the species is called 'Pallas Cat.' They're kittens of the Pallas' Cat species. ;)
falcolf 1 year ago
The central asian mountains and plateaus where this kawaii neko lives, are free of toxoplasmosis. Manul young have particularly weak immune responce to toxoplasma gondii, and are likely to die with 60-70% even in a zoo.
g10bus 2 years ago
sad, but true. since their conservation in an isolated habitat after being named a protected species, they have been quarantined in an area where infection is highly rare. over time time their immune system weakened due to natural selection.
newportreject3 2 years ago
they are so cute!
animekittendiamond 2 years ago 2
Most Pallas cat offspring die as kittens. If anything, most breeding attempts end up being a good way to LOSE a 'buck.' Setting up a proper breeding facility will put you out tens (to hundreds) of thousands of dollars at least. For making monetary profit, this is NOT they way to do it. hahaha! This is about the commitment and respect for a species of amazing cats.
savannahcatz 3 years ago
Poor babies! they cry for mama! so cute!
bukasova 3 years ago
i know i cant get one for a housepet but where can i get one?
gracie3765 3 years ago
oh that sucks. i really want one of them. i also want to get a cougar or a tiger maybe if i get rich. lol but i have 2 cats at home. i read about this cougar someone had and she got along with dogs and cats.
x3MrsDaniFilthx3 3 years ago
Try to find a place that houses exotics and volunteer with them. Once you learn what is entailed in the care and upkeep of an animal you can then make an informed decision. Animal care of this kind is a 24/7 commitment that most people can not handle. Irresponsible owners have made the effort to save species, including tigers, harder than it should be. Most of the tigers(Including all the white tigers.) in America are not true representations of the wild lines.
wildcatzoo 3 years ago 27
i want to go to college and learn how to be a big cat trainer or vet, but it's probably really hard to find that kind of job so idk what i'm going to do.
x3MrsDaniFilthx3 3 years ago
@x3MrsDaniFilthx3
I just think people REALLY shouldn't take ANY wild animals as "pets" That's a very bad idea! There are SO many homeless little kittens every year, and adult cats too. Many will be definitely killled if they don't find a home. I suggest taking a normal kitty cat instead of a rare or endangered wild animal. This idea that it's okay to get some wild cat must be some kind of an American thing. Were I live we keep those kind of animals in the wild and in zoos where they belong!
MsAzure77 1 year ago 2
@MsAzure77 What part of "zoo" in "wildcatzoo" went over your head?
kfsone 1 year ago
@x3MrsDaniFilthx3 Wild cats are not pets.
410Lulu 1 year ago 4
@x3MrsDaniFilthx3
So one day we can see you owner of wild cats eaten fron em on news :P
DeliBasAli 1 year ago 3
do you know where people can get these cats as house cats?
x3MrsDaniFilthx3 3 years ago
Nowhere. There are few bloodlines in captivity and they are endangered in the wild, unlike other species sometimes sold as "house cats" (although none of them of course have the temperment of a domestic cat). I highly recommend you get a cat from your local shelter. I've worked with about 20 species of wild cats and would never want one in my house, I am very happy to live with domestic cats as companions.
wildcatzoo 3 years ago 25
Now those are some cute wee kittens! I noticed how much they were hissing....are they difficult to handle or were they just reacting to a new environment?
opalasattic 3 years ago
They are mother raised, we were just taking them from the mom momentarily to do some tests & treatments. Thus the hissing!
wildcatzoo 3 years ago
Good to hear that...any animal should be raised by it's mother if at all possible....it's good for 'em both mentally and physically, which of course you know. What is a Pallas cat's general disposition though? I've always heard that they can be rather fractious to deal with, and was wondering if this was true. They're so unusual looking and drop dead gorgeous it'd be hard to resist scooping one up for a cuddle, but judging by the look in their eye it's probably best to think twice about that.
opalasattic 3 years ago 4
In general they are not fractious, they avoid their keepers. Even when we have to catch them to transfer from one cage to another they do not strike at or try to bite us. We have two males that are a bit more aggressive that the rest, strangely enough they are two that seem to be infertile...
wildcatzoo 3 years ago 2
@wildcatzoo As I've heard it very, very hard to get these cats to bred at all, in the wild but especially in captivity - it's a miracle you have kittens!
capnquack 1 year ago
My head is going to explode with this cuteness! Aaaaarrggghhhh....
youtubasoarus 3 years ago 4
I wish someone hybridised them with domestic cats like they did to produce bengals and savannahs.
The new breed would be cute with snow or silver tabby coat.
Or maybe even pallas cats could be useful for developing toyger breed as they've got stripes on their backs and round ears.
theTeabag 4 years ago 2
I wish more people bred them at all. There really arent enough of them to start working with them as hybrids. Servals are very common in the wild. Their numbers are strong.
savannahcatz 4 years ago 2
although, in most cases, it's not true that pet trade saves species from extinction as breeders use animals taken from their natural habitat.
theTeabag 4 years ago
The bigger issue is lack of natural habitat. If theres no place for the animals to live, then there are no animals. The pet trade is really insignificant in the big picture. And I speak from first hand experience doing field research in s.e. asia and from working directly with a conservation biologist who has done field studies all over the world (africa, asia, s.e. asia, australia, etc, etc.)
savannahcatz 4 years ago
Its not biologists who put blame on the pet trade for the decimation of species, its radical "AR" groups such as PETA and the HSUS. They are part of a general adgenda which is working to strip citizens of their rights. This goes for BSL, mandatory spay/ neuter, mandatory microchipping, mandatory vaccinations, increasing animal ownership bans, etc, etc. Its all on the same page. A slow, and methodic stripping of human rights and liberties.
savannahcatz 4 years ago 3
Don't blame PETA or HSUS....blame the greedy irresponsible shits that generally run the so called "pet trade"...the cruel and inhuman treatment of gorgeous animals like this by people who care for nothing else but making a buck are the ones who ruin it for everyone. If we treated our animals the way they SHOULD be treated, PETA and the rest would have absolutely nothing to bitch about...sad to say neglect and cruelty for profit are the norm rather than the exception these days.
opalasattic 3 years ago
Actually, PETA wants total liberation for animals. They dont want humans to have ANYTHING to do with animals at all, no matter how well they are treated. That means NO pets, NO zoos, NO farms, NO service animals, no animals in captivity period. Thats the ultimate goal of this group.
savannahcatz 3 years ago 3
I'm well aware of their extreme stance on this issue, and alot of this attitude is due to the fact that a great deal of humans can't be bothered to treat our fellow creatures with the mercy and compassion they rightly deserve. I don't always agree with their approach, but I do agree that animals have the right to live in a happy healthy environment no matter what their ultimate use is for..they're God's creatures just as we are and have a right to at least be cared for humanely.
opalasattic 3 years ago
Definitely, and I wholeheartedly agree. This view which you and I share is more in line with animal welfare, then animal rights. I am vice president of a local animal welfare coalition, run my own dog/ cat rescue rehoming center and activly promote responsible ownership of pets. I also fight for rights of humans in the battle we are waging against the AR groups. Im an animal lover, and a pet lover. I believe that miracles can happen in the formation of human/ animal bonds. We shouldnt lose that.
savannahcatz 3 years ago 2
But the leader of peta has a dog.
FrontalTraction 3 years ago
She also uses meds which have been derived after years of testing them on animals. Most AR advocates tend to be rather hypocritical, from what I have seen. This reminds me also of many so called "animal sanctuaries around the US. One "wolf sanctuary" website I was on last night "saved" all of their wolves from breeders as pups. Basically this means that they bought them and are claiming that they are legitimate rescues. Most (80%) were purchased at the typical 2 weeks of age and bottle raised.
savannahcatz 3 years ago
no pets? my cats and dogs will tell you they're liberated. even with the doors open they want to stay home. that's a bit unrealistic.
empressjulz 2 years ago
These cats are being bred in captivity due to humans trapping the for the fur, I hate the idea of zoo's unfortunately this is only one way of keeping the breed alive, maybe we should skin the fur trader's and see how they like it?
UncleGenghis 4 years ago 2
The reality in this world is animal populations are going to be managed by humans. Wild areas are what humans decree them to be, and are often surrounded by roads - which are cages the animals don't understand.
These babies are a miracle - only eight were born in the North American line in the last several years. One at the Cincy Zoo, the rest at this facility.
The food this cat eats is killed (Poisons, bio war) which is primary fear for survival. Help captive efforts offset the damage.
wildcatzoo 3 years ago
The Cat House is responsible for breeding rare and endangered animals for the purpose of saving the species. This is not someone's home, this is a facility.
sayterra 4 years ago 18
It's a wonderful facility, with many types of wild cats!
I worried about their sources (former pets, self breeding) but when I learned that the older Manuls they had were 'retired' from the San Diego Zoo, I wasn't worried about this place any more! SDZ would NEVER send any of their animals to a shoddy facility!!
We got to visit last year in April for a friend's b-day, it was awesome! I always want to go back even tho it's a bit of a drive from LA (about an hour north). It's worth it!
bcgrote 3 years ago
AHH~! KITTENS~! <3
MistressRhea 4 years ago 2
The pallas cat is one of my very favorite species! I love them. =)
savannahcatz 4 years ago
I do too! I have been for almost 30 years since I first saw one in the Beijing Zoo. Do you know any groups trying to help them in the wild?
siikajarv 3 years ago
Im not certain, but thats a good question. I know that research is difficult because of the harsh terrain which they naturally live. They are especially prone to disease because in the wild they live in such isolated areas. I would bet that the Cincinnati Zoo would be a good source of such information though. They seem to be one of the leaders in captive feline propagation, as well as research of wild animal populations. They often back conservation minded research projects.
savannahcatz 3 years ago
lincoln park zoo has adult pallas cats!
party90210 4 years ago
there'r so cute !
monboudechou 4 years ago
they'r so cute ! :)
monboudechou 4 years ago