Don't be fooled. Gingrich is saying what many voters want to hear. What a liar. The term Arab reflects a larger category of people who have a language and some other cultural history in common. Maybe for a very euro-centric mind, it might help you to consider an analogy: Palestinian or Syrian is to Arab as British or French is to European. The blatant IRONY: There was no Israel prior to 1948. There were Jews BUT no Israelis until 1948. They are the INVENTED people.
Just let israel live in peace. Israel is probably one of the smallest countries in the world and the lone country that jews have. Look at what arabs have. They have 20+ countries.
I'm a palestinian Christian and this ridiculous. Look in your dam text books and then you'll see if we're invented or not. Stupid ignorance. America is a foul country made up of sins and killing. Ur founding fathers stole from the Indians just like Israel did with Palestine. Ron Paul.
@broofbetty actually if you go back into history as far back as Abraham/Ibrahim ,the father of both the Jews and the Arab people [Ishmael], He came from Ur in what is now known as IRAQ, not from eastern europe. Do a little research and you will see. Religiously, there was Jews in What is now known as Israel/Palestine 3000 years ago, and if history is correct there was no muslim religion that far back. So, it looks like the Jews were there first, sorry but its fact ,not fiction.
The only thing "invented' I could see in this clip that Gingrich has a brain...
We are ( the US) the only country in the world where in presidential election the contenders try to prove their loyalty to a foreign country (Israel) not to their own (the US)....In other countries this would be considered treason...
How is that possible if the Israelis came from Eastern Europe. Look all around the middle east, what do the people look like? They look Palestinian and Arab. The only people who look a little out of place to me are the Honkey Jews.
@Jewmuffin1 actually if you go back into history as far back as Abraham/Ibrahim ,the father of both the Jews and the Arab people [Ishmael], He came from Ur in what is now known as IRAQ, not from eastern europe. Do a little research and you will see. Religiously, there was Jews in What is now known as Israel/Palestine 3000 years ago, and if history is correct there was no muslim religion that far back. So, it looks like the Jews were there first, sorry but its fact ,not fiction.
Gingrich has the audacity to tell the truth!! There was no Palestinian nationalism until Arabs reacted to the rise of a Jewish Israel that defeated the Arabs in four wars. When the Arabs realized that they could not militarily defeat Israel, they sought to morally vanquish Israel by exaggerating Palestinian "victimhood". However, he invention of Palestinian "victimhood" has harmed the Palestinians, more than it did Israel, in encouraging extremism, dependancy and terrorism
A guy that says "Palestinians are an invented people" is not interested in fostering peace in the Middle East. If Gingrich faces Obama, a lot of moderate conservatives will not want to side with him for his hypocrisy.
Those who don't recognize Israel as the country for jews, and those who for tens of years bomb in resturants and kill babys in a house with a knife, those are the people who don't want to make peace in the middle east. Gingrich is right
@alon77100 How can Israel call itself a Jewish country if 25% of the citizens are non-Jewish? That just vindicates the idea that Israel is an apartheid state, where there are three classes of citizens: Jews (1st class citizens), Israeli Arabs (2nd class citizens) and Palestinians (3rd class citizens). Do you think Israel does not do the same terrorist acts as the Palestinian terrorists? They are all the same, the difference is Israel has a modern army.
You realy don't know nothing ah? when i say a jewish state i mean a country that every jew in the world can come to, be safe and be citizen. We are an apartheid state? you are anti semitic! The fact that we have 25% arabs in the country i because we are the country that gives the arabs full right like every man, distinguish to the arab country who now kill there people (Syria for example). We are great democracy, not Fascists like the arab country and like you.
@alon77100 There is plenty of evidence of discrimination against Israeli Arabs, read the NGO's reports about it. Also, the idea of "demographic balance" constantly discussed in Israel is discriminatory in itself. Just because I recognize the brutality of the Israeli army and consider it to be as brutal and indiscriminate as the terrorists you call me antisemitic and fascist, that's so typical. Thousands of displaced, injured and dead: there's the legacy of your great democracy.
This is so typical for people who don't know anything on my country to sat that it is an apartheid state.Arab are equall by the law, they have members in the Kneset, they have the right to vote like me. Do you know that on of the judjes in our supreme coury is Arab? Do you know that there are arabs who sereve in israel army ? Do you know who is Rida Mantzur? She is an embassador and arab.we have famous footbal arab players in the best teams in israel who play in Israel national team.
Rana Raslan is the former miss-Israel, Ismaeil Halado was the vice of the concul of Israel in San Francico, Ralab Magadela was a minister in the last govermant in Israel, they are all israeli arabs, and no jews ! Do you know that every sign on the roads in israel are written in arabic ? Is this an aparthaid state are you crazy or not ?! we are a great democracy. Better than the Arab countries, the arabs in the world get the best conditions in .... where ? in Syria? no, in israel !
The idea of demograpic is becuase we are the only nation in the history that succeeded to survive for 2000 years in the world when people tried to kill us, and the peak was in the holocoust. That is the reason we need a country that jews can come and be safe, when we will be minority (and we won't never) we will be destroyed, becuase as you know, arabs countries have the ability to kill there citizens, so jews? of course!
And you'll se what will happan to Europe when the muslims will be majority, becuase they will be in a few decades. Our army is the most moral in the world, in Lebanon and in Gaza we tried not to kill citizen (as Europe and USA did in Iraq for instance) but it's not our guilty that they send their missles from houses and school. The role of IDF is to kill the people that send rockets to my city, and that what they are doing, the best.
Imagine what Britian, USA, Germany, France, will fo to an organization that send thousands of rockets for a decade to my city and other cities. Juse imagine ! in a second this organization won't be exist! Imagine what is the feeling when your friends come to house and cut childern with knife as your friend did in Itamar last year, or imagine what you will feel that you are under attack for years by rockets and you need to go to a shelter in 15 seconds and if not... Imagine. try to
And i tell you, if the Palastinians will change their education system that is preaching for terror while our is preaching for peac, if they will stop to send rockets and they will agree for real peace like most of the people in Israel want, i promise you, i'll support to establish a palastin state - i support the peace, and i want it, but every time we have them lands, we got terror. So why should we do it again and again the same mistake?
And although i'm rightist that think and believe that the west bank never was a palastinians state becuase that is the fact, and although i believe that it is our land, only our, i agree to give up and give those lands to them, for real peace. But that we did in 1994, and in 2005, and it was the opposite. Every time we gave lands, the terror became stronger and stronger, every time !
The fact is, there is religion and petty career advancement involved silly candidates like Gingrich pathetically grovel before jews to gain money and votes, and of course, he believes jews should be hurried towards Israel to speed up the Second Coming. And by winning their support, he will perhaps win the nomination, or else, he'll have the best CEO office in New York. And in Israel? Jews do what they've been doing for 1000s of years: lie, kill, and snivel. Talk about invention, talk of Israel.
There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937
Ok in that case the Americans are also invented people, infact they are Europeans and the native Americans should be the leaders of America not the Europeans so why does he not leave America?
Plus it was the Arabs (Palestinians) who were first in "Israel" not the Israelis due tot he Egyption Empire in 3000 BC which extended as far as Palestine.
The GOP "Presidential race" has been reduced to one REALLY bad reality show.
Not even good enough to be sandwiched between reruns of C.O.P.S. and "Jerry Springer".
In 2012 it will be the SAME President...only nwith EVEN MORE votes! At this point Jimmy Carter could beat those right wing looney toons, even if they run as a "bunch". Ideological freaks with no vision, but plenty of flip-flops on all issues. Embarassing. The whole world laughs at US.
i do not understand this intense hostility towards Newt Gingrich. he quotes historical facts and debunks common myths, he balanced the budget 4 times as speaker and all any of you can think of is his mistakes in his personal life. if every politician's personal life were exposed the way his is, you would see stark contrast between them and he'd look relatively benign.
@hottamale02 Your so simple minded its sad. He is an evil man who cheated on his wife and left her when she had cancer in the hospital. All politician have to say is i love jesus and the bible is fact and you sheep follow anything the do and say.
@nora8brian if the bit about jesus were true, i would be voting for rick perry. gingrich supports christian beleifs but he scarcely touts it to serve his points. i know because i study the gop in detail. he puts logic and historical fact before religious ideology. need proof? look no further than the words that come from his mouth.
The inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza are called Palestinians Now. Before the invention of the state of Israel in 1948, the land was called Palestine, jews and arabs alike, who lived there had IDs that said on it PALESTINIAN...needless to say there were way many more arabs than jews back then cause most of the Israelis now came as immigrants from Europe!!!...
Why not ask the so called "Palestinian people". There are plenty of people still around from the Six Day War. Walid Shoebat is one of those individuals. He has publicly stated that he was a child living in Jordan as a Jordanian until the planned attack and invasion of Israel by Arab Forces (Egypt,Syria and Jordan). On the sixth day when Israel had won the war, against all odds, the of Star of David was rolled through the streets of Jordan. Then very next day he was a "Palestinian".
@charlenesmith1a Walid Shoebat is a proven liar and deceiver. He is given money with the far right to spread such lies that disagree with fact. Jesus himself was a palestinian, if you take copy of older bibles that have maps in them you'll find a land called palestine!
you wrote Israel was never a state, and i wrote you that it was a kingdom!
now, tell me when was that the Palestinians had a state/kingdom/city/any sort of things people rule ? you'll need more than a time machine to find one, and about them, things wasn't changed a bit.
I think after christians killed 6 millions of jews in 6 years, and after 1000 years that your people try to destory our nation, we have the right for 1 country in the size of the state of Ny i think. Arabs have full of countries to go
The Bible, the decision of the united nation, Balfur statment, we have the right to those lands. Arabs have lots of countries in the middle wast, the "palastinians" need to go back. Israel is the jews country, we came back after 2000 years without a state, and we will stay forever.
@alon77100 I think u left the part out about the Jews staying with in the green line. 2000 years??? LOOL....Lets also give some land back to the descendants of dinosaurs!!! Like the birds, alligators, etc...GET OVER it!!!! God threw u out for a reason!!!!!
no one rejects christians, what are you talking about? you need to advance a little bit in your life, you don't know the reality in Israel. The palastinians send people to kill with a knife babies beacuse of their religion. There wasn't never a palastine nation! never
It is absurd that christian says that jew rejects him, don't you think? all of the history it was the opposite. i have christians friends from Europe that after visiting Israel (3 weeks ago) and Yad Vashem (holocoust meusum) and after thay had alarms and rockets, they told me "you know what? now we understand why it is important you have a country in israel".
it's ok to jelous, we are the only nation in the world that for 2000 years peple tried to destroy, and pick point was the holocoust. So yes, we have the right to have a country of us in israel, of course after the united nation gave there agree in 1947
@alon77100 The only time Israel came to be was when Britain DECIDED to establish a homeland for the jews as a reward to Chaim Wiezmann, the chemist who made murderous weapons for the British in WWI. So, the only Lord who gave them the land was Lord Balfour, and it was not written in the Bible; it was given out on the Balfour Declaration of 1917. And the last Temple that ratified its existence wasnt on Zion but in the UN in New York.
So you say the right thing, we have the historical and the legal right to this country. The invenented nation don't have it and they won't have it. it is funny that our prime minister is also agree to establish a country for palasine and they reject it, they want all of Israel, not only they want the west bank who never was their land, and not only they have full of countries to go to their nations, they want Israel, all of Israel.
@Phantomplayz you got many historical and biblical maps which show that the people of Israel ("Bney Israel") lived there. in addition there never been a map which show a STATE called "Palestine", but just a zone which called like that by different empires who came from the west.
Israelis and Palestinians have an historical right to live there but the problem is that Palestinians refuse to share this land, so they keep "resisting" and losing lands by declaring wars against a strong nation.
@Phantomplayz In the area which is currently israel there used to be two kingdoms. The kingdom of israel and Judea both inhabited by jews and known as israel at the time. That's only what a thousand or two years before America became state :S
How about you do your history and stop with this "Zionist" bullshit
@coolsoeb I think u missed a few thousand years of Jewish absence due to their rejection of Jesus Christ and their exile by God. U may notice a FEW changes in those 2000 years. The realities on the ground have changed, much like the rest of the world. But Jews wanna go back to biblical times and "reclaim". How about u live in the present time for a change??? Unless u wanna give some land back to descendants of dinosaurs too. Like the birds and alligators?!?! Get real!
@Phantomplayz The reason they want to reclaim that land is because after the holocaust they had just suffered unbelievably and wanted to live in a place where they could belong. The United Kingdom decided to give out THEIR land which was a colony at the time to Israel.
LOL zionist bullshit? Who are you kidding yourself?
@coolsoeb Typical Zionist shit...Why do the Palestinians have to suffer as a result of the Holocaust??? Again u keep missing the point about the realities on the ground have changed in the past 2000 years.
I forgot Jews have a special telephone line to God, LOOOL
@Phantomplayz I think you're changing the moral of what i'm trying to say. After israel emerged as a state it was declared war on by almost all sides. Currently the palestinians are controlled by a terrorist group called hamas. Hamas currently sends rockets to CIVILIAN populations in israel. You somehow think that Israel shouldn't provide protection to its people and act accordingly to palestinians?
As to what you have said about the holocaust it happened 65 years ago not 2000
@Phantomplayz And you keep playing this "zionist shit" card but all it does is make your points seem ridiculous. Learn some grammer lessons, get some history lessons and quit doing these stupid conspiracies. If i were you i would be ashamed with the way you make the situation worse with spreading these comments around and then make a mockery of major events.
@coolsoeb Wow u just just keep bringing the Holocaust card. All ur missing is the crocodile tears. Palestinians didn't create the Holocaust, just incase u missed that part of history. Israel NEVER existed as country prior to 1948. Only in biblical times as a "kingdom" from 2000 years ago!!!! Try to comprehend that. Zionists shit, is exactly right. Cause u keep mixing the Jewish suffering at the hands of the Nazis, and demonizing Palestinians. Zionism in its very inception is RACIST!!!
@Phantomplayz I never said they started the holocaust and millions of Jews died in it so I'm going to continue to bring it up. The whole area in which Palestine and Israel are currently located in was a BRITISH COLONY any-ways which gave them the right to give their land to whoever they wanted. You're talking about racism but you never mentioned the Arabic quotes that explicitly stated that the JEWS are the problem. Many also stated that Jews should be killed. Look in their shoes.
@Phantomplayz First of all it surprises me that you can't have a normal debate without using insults to back up your points. I'm not surprised though because all your facts are full of bullshit. Just because i misspelled grammar does not make me an idiot because I was writing fast and what it showed to me after you bring it up is that you have no life :)
@coolsoeb U said "learn some grammer", "get some history lessons". Ur trying to insult me and u failed miserably and embarrassed urself! Stop ur crying.
Again, u can bring up the holocaust all u want, it still doesn't justify zionist racism. And if u support the occupation, which YOU clearly do...then ur a racist and a fascist. U can spin this all u want, but at the end of the day, Israel by international recognition and definition, IS THE OCCUPIER. I have zero sympathy for this apartheid state.
@Phantomplayz I'm not crying or embarrassed. My arguments made sense and yours didn't. You're trying to use intimidation factors because your points make no sense. How am I racist or a fascist? Why do you just make random statements and make them seem like points toward an argument.
It's people like you who make the situation seem stupid. Give me a proper argument because you still don't know to to create one properly.
@coolsoeb Look closely at the actions of zionists and their agenda, and ull find how closely it resembles the nazi agenda of "purity". Except this time its just to have and "unify" the Jews and ethnically cleansing the Palestinians.
Do u have a problem with freeing the Palestinians from Israeli occupation???
@Phantomplayz Israeli occupation? You have clearly read to much conspiracy magazines or hateful blogs. After Israel became a state it was attacked by a coalition of Arab countries. It was again attacked later by another coalition of Arab countries on a holiday in which Jews aren't allowed to even work. I don't see how they can open their arms to people who have stated that Jews should be killed. Check out the next quote that I put...
@Phantomplayz "If the Palestinians put down all their weapons, there would be peace in the Middle-East. If Israel put down all their weapons, there would be no Israel."
@coolsoeb Wow thats original pure rightwing propaganda. Seriously, how old r u?? We know the history of the middleast. So ur saying there is no occupation??? LOOL, and the sky is not blue! Loool, spare me the stupid quotes by jews. The US, UN, EU, International criminal court, and the ENTIRE world, calls Israel the OCCUPIER, and the Palestinians the occupied.....But im sure ur next post will be another history lesson form wikipedia and how much victims the Jews r. blah blah blah.
@Phantomplayz It's not propaganda. Hamas is firing rockets at Israel. I wish I could place you in the situation where you're getting hit by rockets. You're saying random points and making it seem like i'm the crazy one. I have facts to back things up and you just have your own opinions. I can't believe the mistakes your parents made in raising you, I'd be ashamed if i was in your shoes. You didn't respond to any of my other arguments either btw you just call them stupid and make an insult.
@Phantomplayz What do you mean he's my hero? I don't even know who that is. I'm not a nazi zionist. You're just a dumbass conspirator that has to blame all the problems of arabs on the jews. You do this however by picking something that has significance and some truth in it and put it way out of proportion. I already stated my arguements and everytime i say a fact you say zionist bullshit. Well where are your facts that support that it is zionist bullshit. YOU HAVE NONE. go to hell
@coolsoeb U don't know who Ariel Sharon is????? WTF!!!!!!!!! I don't blame the Arab problems on Jews....Only Palestinian misery. IF u deny that fact, then u support the occupation. Again that makes u nazi zionist.
@coolsoebEven ur hero the fat fuck war criminal Ariel Sharon call it an occupation. If u don't believe me, look it up on here. Copy and past the following in the search bar here. And have a good listen to him.
@coolsoeb "My arguments made sense and yours didn't."...Seriously?? Did ur mommy tell u ur special too??? Ur simply talking about history, which is common knowledge. So what arguments r u speaking of??? U haven't made ur "case".
Ya u support the Israeli occupation of the Palestinians and the expansion of settlements based on some nutjob argument of TWO THOUSAND year old "my land" shit. Then u throw in the holocaust for some sympathy as if Palestinians or Arabs where at fault.
NUMBER ONE REASON WHY USA IS IN ECONOMICAL CRISIS, IS COS REPUBLICAN REAGAN OPENED EYES TO SOVIET UNION, NOW RUSSIA IS BECOMING CAPITALISTIC COUNTRY AND USA IS BECOMING POOR COUNTRY, THANKS TO REPUBLICAN REAGAN FOR MAKING SOVIET UNION DISAPPEAR. SO WHEN I HEAR GINGRICH TALKING ABOUT REAGAN I WANNA TAKE MY BLOODY TAMPON AND PLUG IT IN HIS MOUTH, I SHOULD WAIT WHEN I AM ON A HEAVY FLOW! RUSSIA IS BECOMING SMART COS NEIGHBOUR CHINA SELLS CHEAP COMPUTERS TO RUSSIA.
USA bombed Serbia 1999 to rip of 15% of Serbian land Kosovo breaking territorial integrity of Serbia. Giving Kosovo to Albanians who have their country Albania now they have big Albania - This is simply criminal act of USA imperialism.
Israel gets rockets so do the Palestinians. Theres innocent blood shed on both sides. They need the Cross of Jesus Christ or at least to be dealt with equally.
Ron Paul has it wrong. He is not acknowledging that the Palestinians today were invented over-night in order to gain Arab unity against Israel, who have ancestry dating back over 3000 years. This is admitted to by Arab scholars and the PLO Military Leader & Exec Zahir Muhsin. This lie is why so many have believed Israel occupies land of people who were no different than any other Arab from Jordan, Syria or Eygpt..
@WingThaiJ, I get annoyed when I hear Faux News talking points.
I get annoyed at those that are so brainwashed cannot accept that Kennedy was killed to get us in Vietnam.
Annoyed for those lost in their own little selfish world not to realize that 9/11 was done to get us in to Middle East wars and set up puppet governments.
Haven't you heard of PNAC - The project of the New American Century - google it, read who is in, then see the people in it
@MrHoolits What you are hearing are conspiracy theories; as any theory, there is no conclusive proof of anything. Besides, I know the guy who was in charge of investigating the problems w/the Twin Towers... nothing unusual based on the construction, etc.. etc.. etc..
@MrHoolits You guys are so fixated on Fox News - Bunch of Parrots; how can you even open your mouths with MSNBC around & especially Obama's constant lies which anyone can google & checked w/via Politifact, etc.. Transparency, LOL! He even lies about the value of taxing the Rich. Bet you all don't even know the list of damages he's called; he makes Bush look conservative
By that logic, Vietnamese people, Filipino people, along with hell... American people are also an invented people. This also includes Israel btw. This isn't lying to the middle east this is race baiting.
@bsnxenogear Palestinians were created overnight out of Jordanians, Syrians, Egyptians, etc.. for the purpose of gaining Arab Unity; admitted so by man Arab scholars & PLO &Military Leader Zahir Muhsin
@WingThaiJ By that logic then America itself, when it declared independence, ratified constitution, etc pretty much a mix of races of french, english, dutch, chinese, african, etc was also invented overnight, but granted they won their wars.
@bsnxenogear What logic?Palestinians of today-no correlation with Philistines,Zahir Muhsin&a host of Arab scholars acknowledge they were devised as a means to gain Arab unity against Israel;note previously there was no call for a homeland until well after reestablishment of Israel.It doesn't matter now, they are all there & Israel is willing to hand over land for peace as they have no reason not to; as peace came about by handg land to Egypt before, so it can happen again, Hamas won't allow it
See What Arab Scholars Admit: Google & Read: "Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples The True Identity of the So-called Palestinians." It so happens that Gingrich was 100% correct; don't bother replying until this is read in full. Truth can hurt, but it can also set you free, lol
Newt Gingrich calling the Palestinians an Invented people is like saying that the Native Americans in the United States are an Invented people, Newt surprises me everyday with his Stupidity.
@RonPaulRevolution92 Sorry, you're proving stupid actually. But it's not really your fault, the media has been so scared to reveal this truth, it's caused many to simply accept the lie about Israel occupying Israeyi territory. This should get you up to date. Please Google & Read: Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples The True Identity of the So-called Palestinians.
BTW, I would have voted for R. Paul had it not been for his naivete regarding Iran
@RonPaulRevolution92 Google & Read: "Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples The True Identity of the So-called Palestinians." It so happens that Gingrich was 100% correct; don't bother replying until this is read in full. You'll have your answer
Ron Paul has the same reaction I do to these morons. Are they nuts? It's like Carlin used to say. There are 3 kinds of politicians - stupid, full of shit and fucking nuts.
Yes Grinch itch a leader of the Chicken Hawk wing of the republican party who Newt Gingrich chose not to go to Vietnam, opting for deferments available to him as a father and a student.
Who threw the divorce papers on his wife's bed in the hospital who was being treated for cancer who is a scumbag who dated his mistress while another chicken hawk chubby chaser sleezebag Clinton was being investigated for Monica Lowenski.
There all sleeze bags and our country is fucked and soon be owned by China
@MrHoolits@MrHoolits Sorry, I'll take Newt w/his faults over Obama any day. Business leaders need regulations that their lawyers can understand so they can ensure they aren't trapped by the Gov by vague verbiage, they need a way to budget for starting new ventures & hiring people; under Obama they can't do this. Obama is more interested in reelection than in solving the problem; he has no intention of cutting spending to any realistic level
@WingThai, I'm a Navy Vietnam Era veteran. You have no problem with anyone who is such a coward like Bush Jr that when their country calls they hide under their mother's dress, a CHICKEN HAWK.
I voted for Obama and finally realize it doesn't matter who you vote for. Obama's policies are so close to Bush that he can be Bush light.
It's an illusion and those that really run the world decide who becomes president. All are selected by the Rockefellers CFR - Council of Foreign Relations.
@MrHoolits I'm no fan Of Bush,however, I know at least repubs R talkg spendg cuts which is only way to attempt to avoid a Greece sit'n here.Obama HAS NO INTENTION of cuttg spendg&has to resort to class-warfare.Sayg 'Rich should Pay Fair Share' when he knows what they already pay&tryg to use them to fix Gov mistakes,knowing it won't do anythg but add more waste to waste-pool; that's all he has to run on.If I have to choose between2 evils,I'll choose conservative to give country a fighting chance
@WingThaiJ, Well then you won. These are conservative values starting from Reagan thru Obama. The last real liberal president was Carter and he was part of the Rockefellers CFR Council of Foreign Relations
Clinton was a Republican as is Obama.
In the days of FDR and subsequent, the US paid for WWII, Korean and Vietnam. Taxes were raised to pay for these wars.
Reagan and Gingrich believe in "Starve the Beast" google it
@MrHoolits Tell me, what is your forecast if Obama wins? You know he won't change his spendg & you know that even if we had all Rich peoples $ we couldn't pay off debt; you know the real job creators are on hold; what good can come out of more Obama? At least repubs r going to cut spendg. Obama has NOTHING to campaign on, so he only has class warfare to sell to the economically illiterate
@MrHoolits I will email you something from someone who worked his way from rags to riches, noting he never would have made it had he relied upon the Gov. He has employed people worldwide & mostly in U.S. & was a University Professor (most professors r only pencil pushers & confuse theory w/reality like Krugman does); he's the Real Thing; putting economics into practice. Look for it; and perhaps other such email.
@MrHoolits ROFL, Wow, another Pot calling the Kettle Black. I sent you email from one who knows what's happening in the REAL WORLD... Read It less you wish to continue making a fool of yourself
@MrHoolits Yeah, & Google UCLA study shows FDR prolonged the Depression; tons of info/studies showing this... Let's face it, Obama has no plans to cut spending by any sig. degree, which means if he gets elected, the debt will rise that whole time period, which can only lead to economic collapse.
@WingThaiJ They hate Social Security and Medicare and all social programs and the easiest way to get rid of them is to be in so much debt there will no money available for those programs - "Starve the Beast"
What they want is the US the become a 3rd world country or Fascist where a few own everything and the rest are basically back as serfs. To finish their goal they must destroy the middle class which is the only thing that is in their way.
@MrHoolits Well,look what Gov did w/these progs. True to Gov's way, they stole from the funds. Since they are there now, they need to be fixed. W/Obama it will be the few who CONTROLeveryone.It s not up to any group to DICTATE what one earns;if people have a problem w/earnings,than don't buy the product or service.I'm amazed at how backward your thinkg is&U call me Naive,ROLF.This is how the phrase,'pot calling the kettle black' came about.SPENDING HAS TO BE CUT; OBAMA AIN'T DOING IT
@WingThaiJ, You just don't have a clue. Democrats and Republicans don't matter. It's illusion to believe your vote counts. Those that really run things are going to have who they want in the highest office.
Europe has given their sovereignty and their currency the world bank. Soon the US will be doing the same. Obama is nothing more than a figurehead. He is part of the Rockefellers Tri Lateral Commission and the Council of Foreign Relations.
@MrHoolits, Forecast? It doesn't matters who is president anymore. Fuck Obama who is puppet for the Banksters and the Rockefellers.
Just one more point as this is getting boring.
Have you seen the clips on Youtube of World Trade Center 7. In your life have you ever heard of a building collapsing at the speed of gravity from a small fire?
It never has happened in the past and will not happen in the future.
So stop with the fucking Republican talking points - It no longer matters.
@MrHoolits ROLF, I happen to know the main guy who analyzed the Collapse WHO IS AN EXPERT... He was PAID to determine what went wrong & the inside job thing is ridiculous.. U didn't know u were speaking to someone who knows the very person involved... ROFL, .. friggn conspiracy theorists calling someone else brainwashed... ROFL
@MrHoolits George Soros is the only one I know who's trying to do this.. I like how you guys are made to feel you have the inside info... you learn what you are told .. I know people who are involved in worldwide markets.. so, go on make yourself look even more stupid by calling others stupid
@WingThaiJ, You're such a moron. Luckily brave American are fighting for my country like Pilots For 9/11 Truth Presents "9/11 INTERCEPTED" -
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Any person with half a brain would know that there has never been a steel structure has ever collapse by a fire in the History of the World before and since.
But they have brainwashed half-wits like their with minds closed.
@MrHoolits By the way you talk, it is clear you are on the defensive from the get-go; seems you are constantly called a nut case & brainwashed, so you try to beat others to the punch with your claims. No, I have a guy who is analyzing my home for potential repairs who was involved with analyzing the Twin Towers; He knows more than you, so I do understand it's hard to get rid of things in your brain you convinced yourself of; but I have access to the guy who knows. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@MrHoolits Yeah, I've heard this before, but your basing this off of nothing more than what appears to make sense to you and prop. videos, etc.. Theorize all you want, in the meantime, we have only '2' choices, unless a 3rd person shows up handing the election over to Obama. G. Soros is the one who spoke of puttg someone else in office. If a Pub gets in & cuts spending & does away w/the needless regs; well, let's just see what happens from there.
@MrHoolitsTo open a lemonade stand in America,u need to get a Gov approved fire extinguisher.There r lawyers today who can't even decipher new regs to advise clients;Bus.regs makes it nearly impossible to open a bus.,regs proven bad never get removed; For every new reg they should repeal 2 old one's,they won't. My accountant tells me he's advising clients to hold off on expandg their bus.or startg new ventures until Obama is out;his colleagues r doing the same; hmm,how many jobs lost?
@MrHoolits Medicare & SS are already in place, they aren't going to be taken away; they screwed up by doing what Gov always does; they raided the funds. One of many reasons to make Gov smaller as a whole. Obamacare actually cut, what is it, $500,000,000 out of the Medicare Budget? Why do you think Jim Rogers moved his family to Singapore? Google him if you don't know him. Everything Gov gets into it fails, either slowly or quickly
@WingThaiJ, Do you realize that it costs 1 million dollars per soldier for support in Iraq and Afghanistan. Have you seen the clips on Youtube on World Trade Center 7, the only building not hit by terrorist jets and the only steel frame building in the world that has ever come at the speed of gravity from a small a fire.
@MrHoolits Yes, and now imagine the FACT that Obama spent MORE than this. I can email you the figures if I can dig out the chart. Perhaps u were unaware of how much Obama is and has spent? If he gets reelected we are headed lo financial collapse. He has no intention of cutting spendg so w/a $15 Trill debt, what do you think will happen? We have Greece & Europe as an example, but the dems r ignoring what is beforer their very eyes.
Gingrich is sick , paul is reasonable , USA is not responsible of what isreal is doing usa must stop supporting isreal
thewisestpoor 3 days ago 3
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Don't be fooled. Gingrich is saying what many voters want to hear. What a liar. The term Arab reflects a larger category of people who have a language and some other cultural history in common. Maybe for a very euro-centric mind, it might help you to consider an analogy: Palestinian or Syrian is to Arab as British or French is to European. The blatant IRONY: There was no Israel prior to 1948. There were Jews BUT no Israelis until 1948. They are the INVENTED people.
kittygalore69 3 weeks ago
Just let israel live in peace. Israel is probably one of the smallest countries in the world and the lone country that jews have. Look at what arabs have. They have 20+ countries.
msrulo 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz The United Kingdom of Israel In Solomons time? Judea and Samaria afterwords? The Hasmonean state? The State ruled by Herod the great?
Any Independent Palestine
STLConservative 1 month ago
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ISRAEL adopts Nazi propaganda through
-suppressing a minority
-occupation
-segregation
-systematic brutality
-persecution.
Hitler's legacy lives on with the Israelis.
Fucking Zionist Fascist PIGS!!
KoochyWoochy 1 month ago
I'm a palestinian Christian and this ridiculous. Look in your dam text books and then you'll see if we're invented or not. Stupid ignorance. America is a foul country made up of sins and killing. Ur founding fathers stole from the Indians just like Israel did with Palestine. Ron Paul.
broofbetty 1 month ago
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@broofbetty actually if you go back into history as far back as Abraham/Ibrahim ,the father of both the Jews and the Arab people [Ishmael], He came from Ur in what is now known as IRAQ, not from eastern europe. Do a little research and you will see. Religiously, there was Jews in What is now known as Israel/Palestine 3000 years ago, and if history is correct there was no muslim religion that far back. So, it looks like the Jews were there first, sorry but its fact ,not fiction.
pasadenagene 1 month ago
@broofbetty And Just like the Arabs did from Middle Eastern Jews on a greater scale than the Jews to the Palestinians?
STLConservative 1 month ago
The only thing "invented' I could see in this clip that Gingrich has a brain...
We are ( the US) the only country in the world where in presidential election the contenders try to prove their loyalty to a foreign country (Israel) not to their own (the US)....In other countries this would be considered treason...
someoneinlv 1 month ago
i like to slape my invented dick in gingrich face that fat fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!
ramoa125 1 month ago
How is that possible if the Israelis came from Eastern Europe. Look all around the middle east, what do the people look like? They look Palestinian and Arab. The only people who look a little out of place to me are the Honkey Jews.
Jewmuffin1 1 month ago
@Jewmuffin1 actually if you go back into history as far back as Abraham/Ibrahim ,the father of both the Jews and the Arab people [Ishmael], He came from Ur in what is now known as IRAQ, not from eastern europe. Do a little research and you will see. Religiously, there was Jews in What is now known as Israel/Palestine 3000 years ago, and if history is correct there was no muslim religion that far back. So, it looks like the Jews were there first, sorry but its fact ,not fiction.
pasadenagene 1 month ago
Gingrich has the audacity to tell the truth!! There was no Palestinian nationalism until Arabs reacted to the rise of a Jewish Israel that defeated the Arabs in four wars. When the Arabs realized that they could not militarily defeat Israel, they sought to morally vanquish Israel by exaggerating Palestinian "victimhood". However, he invention of Palestinian "victimhood" has harmed the Palestinians, more than it did Israel, in encouraging extremism, dependancy and terrorism
ronalddweiss 1 month ago
"I (God) will bless those who bless you (Israel) and will curse those who curse you"
(Gen 12:3)
thepissedoffpotato 1 month ago
A guy that says "Palestinians are an invented people" is not interested in fostering peace in the Middle East. If Gingrich faces Obama, a lot of moderate conservatives will not want to side with him for his hypocrisy.
xpto228 1 month ago
@xpto228
Those who don't recognize Israel as the country for jews, and those who for tens of years bomb in resturants and kill babys in a house with a knife, those are the people who don't want to make peace in the middle east. Gingrich is right
alon77100 1 month ago
@alon77100 How can Israel call itself a Jewish country if 25% of the citizens are non-Jewish? That just vindicates the idea that Israel is an apartheid state, where there are three classes of citizens: Jews (1st class citizens), Israeli Arabs (2nd class citizens) and Palestinians (3rd class citizens). Do you think Israel does not do the same terrorist acts as the Palestinian terrorists? They are all the same, the difference is Israel has a modern army.
xpto228 1 month ago
@xpto228
You realy don't know nothing ah? when i say a jewish state i mean a country that every jew in the world can come to, be safe and be citizen. We are an apartheid state? you are anti semitic! The fact that we have 25% arabs in the country i because we are the country that gives the arabs full right like every man, distinguish to the arab country who now kill there people (Syria for example). We are great democracy, not Fascists like the arab country and like you.
alon77100 1 month ago
@alon77100 There is plenty of evidence of discrimination against Israeli Arabs, read the NGO's reports about it. Also, the idea of "demographic balance" constantly discussed in Israel is discriminatory in itself. Just because I recognize the brutality of the Israeli army and consider it to be as brutal and indiscriminate as the terrorists you call me antisemitic and fascist, that's so typical. Thousands of displaced, injured and dead: there's the legacy of your great democracy.
xpto228 1 month ago
@xpto228
This is so typical for people who don't know anything on my country to sat that it is an apartheid state.Arab are equall by the law, they have members in the Kneset, they have the right to vote like me. Do you know that on of the judjes in our supreme coury is Arab? Do you know that there are arabs who sereve in israel army ? Do you know who is Rida Mantzur? She is an embassador and arab.we have famous footbal arab players in the best teams in israel who play in Israel national team.
alon77100 1 month ago
@xpto228
Rana Raslan is the former miss-Israel, Ismaeil Halado was the vice of the concul of Israel in San Francico, Ralab Magadela was a minister in the last govermant in Israel, they are all israeli arabs, and no jews ! Do you know that every sign on the roads in israel are written in arabic ? Is this an aparthaid state are you crazy or not ?! we are a great democracy. Better than the Arab countries, the arabs in the world get the best conditions in .... where ? in Syria? no, in israel !
alon77100 1 month ago
@xpto228
The idea of demograpic is becuase we are the only nation in the history that succeeded to survive for 2000 years in the world when people tried to kill us, and the peak was in the holocoust. That is the reason we need a country that jews can come and be safe, when we will be minority (and we won't never) we will be destroyed, becuase as you know, arabs countries have the ability to kill there citizens, so jews? of course!
alon77100 1 month ago
@xpto228
And you'll se what will happan to Europe when the muslims will be majority, becuase they will be in a few decades. Our army is the most moral in the world, in Lebanon and in Gaza we tried not to kill citizen (as Europe and USA did in Iraq for instance) but it's not our guilty that they send their missles from houses and school. The role of IDF is to kill the people that send rockets to my city, and that what they are doing, the best.
alon77100 1 month ago
@xpto228
Imagine what Britian, USA, Germany, France, will fo to an organization that send thousands of rockets for a decade to my city and other cities. Juse imagine ! in a second this organization won't be exist! Imagine what is the feeling when your friends come to house and cut childern with knife as your friend did in Itamar last year, or imagine what you will feel that you are under attack for years by rockets and you need to go to a shelter in 15 seconds and if not... Imagine. try to
alon77100 1 month ago
@xpto228
And i tell you, if the Palastinians will change their education system that is preaching for terror while our is preaching for peac, if they will stop to send rockets and they will agree for real peace like most of the people in Israel want, i promise you, i'll support to establish a palastin state - i support the peace, and i want it, but every time we have them lands, we got terror. So why should we do it again and again the same mistake?
alon77100 1 month ago
@xpto228
And although i'm rightist that think and believe that the west bank never was a palastinians state becuase that is the fact, and although i believe that it is our land, only our, i agree to give up and give those lands to them, for real peace. But that we did in 1994, and in 2005, and it was the opposite. Every time we gave lands, the terror became stronger and stronger, every time !
alon77100 1 month ago
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The fact is, there is religion and petty career advancement involved silly candidates like Gingrich pathetically grovel before jews to gain money and votes, and of course, he believes jews should be hurried towards Israel to speed up the Second Coming. And by winning their support, he will perhaps win the nomination, or else, he'll have the best CEO office in New York. And in Israel? Jews do what they've been doing for 1000s of years: lie, kill, and snivel. Talk about invention, talk of Israel.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
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There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
alon77100 1 month ago
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"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -
alon77100 1 month ago
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There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
alon77100 1 month ago
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There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937
alon77100 1 month ago
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"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -
alon77100 1 month ago
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You may like my video about Newt's three marriages at
Put " watch?v=AQSsMRe6BJE " in the Youtube search bar.
There are chickens in it. Everybody loves chickens!
It also ends with a splash of Santorum!
SFHarry 1 month ago
I agree with him :) except they should be called FAKEstinians
blackhawkwm2 1 month ago
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Ok in that case the Americans are also invented people, infact they are Europeans and the native Americans should be the leaders of America not the Europeans so why does he not leave America?
Plus it was the Arabs (Palestinians) who were first in "Israel" not the Israelis due tot he Egyption Empire in 3000 BC which extended as far as Palestine.
lSaif 1 month ago
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The GOP "Presidential race" has been reduced to one REALLY bad reality show.
Not even good enough to be sandwiched between reruns of C.O.P.S. and "Jerry Springer".
In 2012 it will be the SAME President...only nwith EVEN MORE votes! At this point Jimmy Carter could beat those right wing looney toons, even if they run as a "bunch". Ideological freaks with no vision, but plenty of flip-flops on all issues. Embarassing. The whole world laughs at US.
zerogullibility 1 month ago
i do not understand this intense hostility towards Newt Gingrich. he quotes historical facts and debunks common myths, he balanced the budget 4 times as speaker and all any of you can think of is his mistakes in his personal life. if every politician's personal life were exposed the way his is, you would see stark contrast between them and he'd look relatively benign.
aeorta1 1 month ago
Gingrich is a man of wisdom and truth. People hate the truth and the light. God Bless Newt Gingrich, may he will inspire people to gain knowledge.
hottamale02 1 month ago
@hottamale02 Your so simple minded its sad. He is an evil man who cheated on his wife and left her when she had cancer in the hospital. All politician have to say is i love jesus and the bible is fact and you sheep follow anything the do and say.
nora8brian 1 month ago
@nora8brian if the bit about jesus were true, i would be voting for rick perry. gingrich supports christian beleifs but he scarcely touts it to serve his points. i know because i study the gop in detail. he puts logic and historical fact before religious ideology. need proof? look no further than the words that come from his mouth.
aeorta1 1 month ago
RON PAUL 2012
Msmira3 1 month ago
I liked Gingrich when he was interviewed by ALI-G show cause he is a joke.
dooalittledippsy 2 months ago
Ron Paul must have been livid standing right next to him!!!!!!!!!
SLCforLIFE 2 months ago
people clapped for gingrich... wow.. thats sad! thats fucking sad!
mhamadac 2 months ago 11
@mhamadac Why? Do your history! Duh!
IslamISsick1 1 month ago
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The inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza are called Palestinians Now. Before the invention of the state of Israel in 1948, the land was called Palestine, jews and arabs alike, who lived there had IDs that said on it PALESTINIAN...needless to say there were way many more arabs than jews back then cause most of the Israelis now came as immigrants from Europe!!!...
Msmira3 2 months ago
Why not ask the so called "Palestinian people". There are plenty of people still around from the Six Day War. Walid Shoebat is one of those individuals. He has publicly stated that he was a child living in Jordan as a Jordanian until the planned attack and invasion of Israel by Arab Forces (Egypt,Syria and Jordan). On the sixth day when Israel had won the war, against all odds, the of Star of David was rolled through the streets of Jordan. Then very next day he was a "Palestinian".
charlenesmith1a 2 months ago
@charlenesmith1a Walid Shoebat is a proven liar and deceiver. He is given money with the far right to spread such lies that disagree with fact. Jesus himself was a palestinian, if you take copy of older bibles that have maps in them you'll find a land called palestine!
abuabdillah333 2 months ago
@abuabdillah333 Just because muslims play that silly game and try to "expose liar xyz", that doesn't make anything of it true or real.
In reality, palestinians do not exist.
In reality, those arabs who declare themselves as palestinians, are terrorists.
In reality, it's about time that we understand that they've declared war on civilisation.
In reality, it's time for us to answer that call.
sooperfukker 2 months ago
Find me a map prior to 1948 that says Israel on it.....GOOD LUCK FUCKTARD!!!!!
Phantomplayz 2 months ago 13
@Phantomplayz
are you fucking kiding me?
you read the bible? you know some basic history? i bet you don't,
israel was a kingdom more than once, and had much more land than the current Israeli state. look it up
tttBig 1 month ago
@tttBig Sorry, but we on earth like to live in this era. If u wanna go back 2000 years, go find a time machine and don't reject Christ.
Its 2012....things have changed JUST A BIT.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
you wrote Israel was never a state, and i wrote you that it was a kingdom!
now, tell me when was that the Palestinians had a state/kingdom/city/any sort of things people rule ? you'll need more than a time machine to find one, and about them, things wasn't changed a bit.
tttBig 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
I think after christians killed 6 millions of jews in 6 years, and after 1000 years that your people try to destory our nation, we have the right for 1 country in the size of the state of Ny i think. Arabs have full of countries to go
alon77100 1 month ago
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@Phantomplayz
And i'll ask you another question,. when the palastinians have had a state in all of the history ? never ever, they are invented
alon77100 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
The Bible, the decision of the united nation, Balfur statment, we have the right to those lands. Arabs have lots of countries in the middle wast, the "palastinians" need to go back. Israel is the jews country, we came back after 2000 years without a state, and we will stay forever.
alon77100 1 month ago
@alon77100 I think u left the part out about the Jews staying with in the green line. 2000 years??? LOOL....Lets also give some land back to the descendants of dinosaurs!!! Like the birds, alligators, etc...GET OVER it!!!! God threw u out for a reason!!!!!
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
god threw us out? by threw you mean promised it to us 3 times?
GET OVER IT! the "palestinians" never had a right for this land
tttBig 1 month ago
@tttBig What did he say to u when he threw u out???....What did he say about WHEN U coming back???...And why did u, and STILL reject Christ.......
U seriously need to get over this God's "chosen people" complex. The world laughs at u, cause they know u r frauds.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
no one rejects christians, what are you talking about? you need to advance a little bit in your life, you don't know the reality in Israel. The palastinians send people to kill with a knife babies beacuse of their religion. There wasn't never a palastine nation! never
alon77100 1 month ago
@alon77100 U can repeat ur lies over and over....Its still lie.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@alon77100 Actually u rejected Christ.....Perhaps u need to brush up on ur history. Zionist turd.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
It is absurd that christian says that jew rejects him, don't you think? all of the history it was the opposite. i have christians friends from Europe that after visiting Israel (3 weeks ago) and Yad Vashem (holocoust meusum) and after thay had alarms and rockets, they told me "you know what? now we understand why it is important you have a country in israel".
alon77100 1 month ago
@alon77100 Did the Jews reject Jesus or not????!!!!!
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
it's ok to jelous, we are the only nation in the world that for 2000 years peple tried to destroy, and pick point was the holocoust. So yes, we have the right to have a country of us in israel, of course after the united nation gave there agree in 1947
alon77100 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
And i'll ask you another question,. when the palastinians have had a state in all of the history ? never ever, they are invented
alon77100 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
The decision of the united nations in 1947 is enoug. All of the history, jews lived in israel
alon77100 1 month ago
@alon77100 The only time Israel came to be was when Britain DECIDED to establish a homeland for the jews as a reward to Chaim Wiezmann, the chemist who made murderous weapons for the British in WWI. So, the only Lord who gave them the land was Lord Balfour, and it was not written in the Bible; it was given out on the Balfour Declaration of 1917. And the last Temple that ratified its existence wasnt on Zion but in the UN in New York.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz
So you say the right thing, we have the historical and the legal right to this country. The invenented nation don't have it and they won't have it. it is funny that our prime minister is also agree to establish a country for palasine and they reject it, they want all of Israel, not only they want the west bank who never was their land, and not only they have full of countries to go to their nations, they want Israel, all of Israel.
alon77100 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz you got many historical and biblical maps which show that the people of Israel ("Bney Israel") lived there. in addition there never been a map which show a STATE called "Palestine", but just a zone which called like that by different empires who came from the west.
Israelis and Palestinians have an historical right to live there but the problem is that Palestinians refuse to share this land, so they keep "resisting" and losing lands by declaring wars against a strong nation.
Shalshelan 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz Do your history.. Jeesh.. Palestine is an Iranian war proxy base!
IslamISsick1 1 month ago
@IslamISsick1 Do YOUR history. Israel is an American zionist invention.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz In the area which is currently israel there used to be two kingdoms. The kingdom of israel and Judea both inhabited by jews and known as israel at the time. That's only what a thousand or two years before America became state :S
How about you do your history and stop with this "Zionist" bullshit
coolsoeb 1 month ago
@coolsoeb I think u missed a few thousand years of Jewish absence due to their rejection of Jesus Christ and their exile by God. U may notice a FEW changes in those 2000 years. The realities on the ground have changed, much like the rest of the world. But Jews wanna go back to biblical times and "reclaim". How about u live in the present time for a change??? Unless u wanna give some land back to descendants of dinosaurs too. Like the birds and alligators?!?! Get real!
More ZIONIST BULLSHIT!!!!
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz The reason they want to reclaim that land is because after the holocaust they had just suffered unbelievably and wanted to live in a place where they could belong. The United Kingdom decided to give out THEIR land which was a colony at the time to Israel.
LOL zionist bullshit? Who are you kidding yourself?
coolsoeb 1 month ago
@coolsoeb Typical Zionist shit...Why do the Palestinians have to suffer as a result of the Holocaust??? Again u keep missing the point about the realities on the ground have changed in the past 2000 years.
I forgot Jews have a special telephone line to God, LOOOL
U sure r "special" people ;)
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz I think you're changing the moral of what i'm trying to say. After israel emerged as a state it was declared war on by almost all sides. Currently the palestinians are controlled by a terrorist group called hamas. Hamas currently sends rockets to CIVILIAN populations in israel. You somehow think that Israel shouldn't provide protection to its people and act accordingly to palestinians?
As to what you have said about the holocaust it happened 65 years ago not 2000
coolsoeb 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz And you keep playing this "zionist shit" card but all it does is make your points seem ridiculous. Learn some grammer lessons, get some history lessons and quit doing these stupid conspiracies. If i were you i would be ashamed with the way you make the situation worse with spreading these comments around and then make a mockery of major events.
coolsoeb 1 month ago
@coolsoeb Wow u just just keep bringing the Holocaust card. All ur missing is the crocodile tears. Palestinians didn't create the Holocaust, just incase u missed that part of history. Israel NEVER existed as country prior to 1948. Only in biblical times as a "kingdom" from 2000 years ago!!!! Try to comprehend that. Zionists shit, is exactly right. Cause u keep mixing the Jewish suffering at the hands of the Nazis, and demonizing Palestinians. Zionism in its very inception is RACIST!!!
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz I never said they started the holocaust and millions of Jews died in it so I'm going to continue to bring it up. The whole area in which Palestine and Israel are currently located in was a BRITISH COLONY any-ways which gave them the right to give their land to whoever they wanted. You're talking about racism but you never mentioned the Arabic quotes that explicitly stated that the JEWS are the problem. Many also stated that Jews should be killed. Look in their shoes.
coolsoeb 1 month ago
@coolsoeb BTW if ur gonna attack someones "grammer", perhaps u should learn how to actually spell GRAMMAR, LOOOOL imbecilic moron.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz First of all it surprises me that you can't have a normal debate without using insults to back up your points. I'm not surprised though because all your facts are full of bullshit. Just because i misspelled grammar does not make me an idiot because I was writing fast and what it showed to me after you bring it up is that you have no life :)
coolsoeb 1 month ago
@coolsoeb U said "learn some grammer", "get some history lessons". Ur trying to insult me and u failed miserably and embarrassed urself! Stop ur crying.
Again, u can bring up the holocaust all u want, it still doesn't justify zionist racism. And if u support the occupation, which YOU clearly do...then ur a racist and a fascist. U can spin this all u want, but at the end of the day, Israel by international recognition and definition, IS THE OCCUPIER. I have zero sympathy for this apartheid state.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz I'm not crying or embarrassed. My arguments made sense and yours didn't. You're trying to use intimidation factors because your points make no sense. How am I racist or a fascist? Why do you just make random statements and make them seem like points toward an argument.
It's people like you who make the situation seem stupid. Give me a proper argument because you still don't know to to create one properly.
coolsoeb 1 month ago
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Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@coolsoeb Look closely at the actions of zionists and their agenda, and ull find how closely it resembles the nazi agenda of "purity". Except this time its just to have and "unify" the Jews and ethnically cleansing the Palestinians.
Do u have a problem with freeing the Palestinians from Israeli occupation???
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz Israeli occupation? You have clearly read to much conspiracy magazines or hateful blogs. After Israel became a state it was attacked by a coalition of Arab countries. It was again attacked later by another coalition of Arab countries on a holiday in which Jews aren't allowed to even work. I don't see how they can open their arms to people who have stated that Jews should be killed. Check out the next quote that I put...
coolsoeb 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz "If the Palestinians put down all their weapons, there would be peace in the Middle-East. If Israel put down all their weapons, there would be no Israel."
coolsoeb 1 month ago
@coolsoeb Wow thats original pure rightwing propaganda. Seriously, how old r u?? We know the history of the middleast. So ur saying there is no occupation??? LOOL, and the sky is not blue! Loool, spare me the stupid quotes by jews. The US, UN, EU, International criminal court, and the ENTIRE world, calls Israel the OCCUPIER, and the Palestinians the occupied.....But im sure ur next post will be another history lesson form wikipedia and how much victims the Jews r. blah blah blah.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
@Phantomplayz It's not propaganda. Hamas is firing rockets at Israel. I wish I could place you in the situation where you're getting hit by rockets. You're saying random points and making it seem like i'm the crazy one. I have facts to back things up and you just have your own opinions. I can't believe the mistakes your parents made in raising you, I'd be ashamed if i was in your shoes. You didn't respond to any of my other arguments either btw you just call them stupid and make an insult.
coolsoeb 4 weeks ago
@coolsoebU should be ashamed to be a nazi zionist. Ariel Sharon calls it an occupation. He's ur hero.
Phantomplayz 4 weeks ago
@Phantomplayz What do you mean he's my hero? I don't even know who that is. I'm not a nazi zionist. You're just a dumbass conspirator that has to blame all the problems of arabs on the jews. You do this however by picking something that has significance and some truth in it and put it way out of proportion. I already stated my arguements and everytime i say a fact you say zionist bullshit. Well where are your facts that support that it is zionist bullshit. YOU HAVE NONE. go to hell
coolsoeb 4 weeks ago
@coolsoeb U don't know who Ariel Sharon is????? WTF!!!!!!!!! I don't blame the Arab problems on Jews....Only Palestinian misery. IF u deny that fact, then u support the occupation. Again that makes u nazi zionist.
Phantomplayz 4 weeks ago
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Phantomplayz 1 month ago
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@coolsoebEven ur hero the fat fuck war criminal Ariel Sharon call it an occupation. If u don't believe me, look it up on here. Copy and past the following in the search bar here. And have a good listen to him.
Ariel Sharon Spoke The Truth
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
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@coolsoeb "My arguments made sense and yours didn't."...Seriously?? Did ur mommy tell u ur special too??? Ur simply talking about history, which is common knowledge. So what arguments r u speaking of??? U haven't made ur "case".
Ya u support the Israeli occupation of the Palestinians and the expansion of settlements based on some nutjob argument of TWO THOUSAND year old "my land" shit. Then u throw in the holocaust for some sympathy as if Palestinians or Arabs where at fault.
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
Coming from a center left independent - Newt > Ron Paul
theSicilianToe 2 months ago
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NUMBER ONE REASON WHY USA IS IN ECONOMICAL CRISIS, IS COS REPUBLICAN REAGAN OPENED EYES TO SOVIET UNION, NOW RUSSIA IS BECOMING CAPITALISTIC COUNTRY AND USA IS BECOMING POOR COUNTRY, THANKS TO REPUBLICAN REAGAN FOR MAKING SOVIET UNION DISAPPEAR. SO WHEN I HEAR GINGRICH TALKING ABOUT REAGAN I WANNA TAKE MY BLOODY TAMPON AND PLUG IT IN HIS MOUTH, I SHOULD WAIT WHEN I AM ON A HEAVY FLOW! RUSSIA IS BECOMING SMART COS NEIGHBOUR CHINA SELLS CHEAP COMPUTERS TO RUSSIA.
democratsaresmart 2 months ago
Newt Gingrich -- FREE Palestine. Free Palestine.
USA bombed Serbia 1999 to rip of 15% of Serbian land Kosovo breaking territorial integrity of Serbia. Giving Kosovo to Albanians who have their country Albania now they have big Albania - This is simply criminal act of USA imperialism.
aviomaster 2 months ago
@aviomaster What? There's no charge for Palestine? It's Free? It's like Pepsi Free, huh?
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
Newt you are an invented people!
Hamas does recognise the 1967 borders.
Israel gets rockets so do the Palestinians. Theres innocent blood shed on both sides. They need the Cross of Jesus Christ or at least to be dealt with equally.
ImagesByDavid 2 months ago
Ron Paul has it wrong. He is not acknowledging that the Palestinians today were invented over-night in order to gain Arab unity against Israel, who have ancestry dating back over 3000 years. This is admitted to by Arab scholars and the PLO Military Leader & Exec Zahir Muhsin. This lie is why so many have believed Israel occupies land of people who were no different than any other Arab from Jordan, Syria or Eygpt..
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@WingThaiJ, I get annoyed when I hear Faux News talking points.
I get annoyed at those that are so brainwashed cannot accept that Kennedy was killed to get us in Vietnam.
Annoyed for those lost in their own little selfish world not to realize that 9/11 was done to get us in to Middle East wars and set up puppet governments.
Haven't you heard of PNAC - The project of the New American Century - google it, read who is in, then see the people in it
You've been brainwashed by Fixed News
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits What you are hearing are conspiracy theories; as any theory, there is no conclusive proof of anything. Besides, I know the guy who was in charge of investigating the problems w/the Twin Towers... nothing unusual based on the construction, etc.. etc.. etc..
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@MrHoolits No, I read articles which reflect real economics in the real word, such as info. at fee dot org
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@MrHoolits You guys are so fixated on Fox News - Bunch of Parrots; how can you even open your mouths with MSNBC around & especially Obama's constant lies which anyone can google & checked w/via Politifact, etc.. Transparency, LOL! He even lies about the value of taxing the Rich. Bet you all don't even know the list of damages he's called; he makes Bush look conservative
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
By that logic, Vietnamese people, Filipino people, along with hell... American people are also an invented people. This also includes Israel btw. This isn't lying to the middle east this is race baiting.
bsnxenogear 2 months ago
@bsnxenogear Palestinians were created overnight out of Jordanians, Syrians, Egyptians, etc.. for the purpose of gaining Arab Unity; admitted so by man Arab scholars & PLO &Military Leader Zahir Muhsin
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@WingThaiJ By that logic then America itself, when it declared independence, ratified constitution, etc pretty much a mix of races of french, english, dutch, chinese, african, etc was also invented overnight, but granted they won their wars.
bsnxenogear 2 months ago
@bsnxenogear What logic?Palestinians of today-no correlation with Philistines,Zahir Muhsin&a host of Arab scholars acknowledge they were devised as a means to gain Arab unity against Israel;note previously there was no call for a homeland until well after reestablishment of Israel.It doesn't matter now, they are all there & Israel is willing to hand over land for peace as they have no reason not to; as peace came about by handg land to Egypt before, so it can happen again, Hamas won't allow it
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
Haha, even Ron Paul said that it's correct that the palestineans are an invented people. haha.
OREUS39 2 months ago
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See What Arab Scholars Admit: Google & Read: "Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples The True Identity of the So-called Palestinians." It so happens that Gingrich was 100% correct; don't bother replying until this is read in full. Truth can hurt, but it can also set you free, lol
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
Ya they are all terrorists. They are all spawn of satan. Women, Children, all of them. Wipe them off the planet. Newt you warmonger jackass.
EMPIRE0FLIES 2 months ago
watch?v=bkm67Q5jMco You guys have to check this out....
drtha101 2 months ago
Newt Gingrich calling the Palestinians an Invented people is like saying that the Native Americans in the United States are an Invented people, Newt surprises me everyday with his Stupidity.
RonPaulRevolution92 2 months ago
@RonPaulRevolution92 Sorry, you're proving stupid actually. But it's not really your fault, the media has been so scared to reveal this truth, it's caused many to simply accept the lie about Israel occupying Israeyi territory. This should get you up to date. Please Google & Read: Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples The True Identity of the So-called Palestinians.
BTW, I would have voted for R. Paul had it not been for his naivete regarding Iran
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
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@RonPaulRevolution92 Google & Read: "Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples The True Identity of the So-called Palestinians." It so happens that Gingrich was 100% correct; don't bother replying until this is read in full. You'll have your answer
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
Ron Paul has the same reaction I do to these morons. Are they nuts? It's like Carlin used to say. There are 3 kinds of politicians - stupid, full of shit and fucking nuts.
surfer53 2 months ago
Yes Grinch itch a leader of the Chicken Hawk wing of the republican party who Newt Gingrich chose not to go to Vietnam, opting for deferments available to him as a father and a student.
Who threw the divorce papers on his wife's bed in the hospital who was being treated for cancer who is a scumbag who dated his mistress while another chicken hawk chubby chaser sleezebag Clinton was being investigated for Monica Lowenski.
There all sleeze bags and our country is fucked and soon be owned by China
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits @MrHoolits Sorry, I'll take Newt w/his faults over Obama any day. Business leaders need regulations that their lawyers can understand so they can ensure they aren't trapped by the Gov by vague verbiage, they need a way to budget for starting new ventures & hiring people; under Obama they can't do this. Obama is more interested in reelection than in solving the problem; he has no intention of cutting spending to any realistic level
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@WingThai, I'm a Navy Vietnam Era veteran. You have no problem with anyone who is such a coward like Bush Jr that when their country calls they hide under their mother's dress, a CHICKEN HAWK.
I voted for Obama and finally realize it doesn't matter who you vote for. Obama's policies are so close to Bush that he can be Bush light.
It's an illusion and those that really run the world decide who becomes president. All are selected by the Rockefellers CFR - Council of Foreign Relations.
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits I'm no fan Of Bush,however, I know at least repubs R talkg spendg cuts which is only way to attempt to avoid a Greece sit'n here.Obama HAS NO INTENTION of cuttg spendg&has to resort to class-warfare.Sayg 'Rich should Pay Fair Share' when he knows what they already pay&tryg to use them to fix Gov mistakes,knowing it won't do anythg but add more waste to waste-pool; that's all he has to run on.If I have to choose between2 evils,I'll choose conservative to give country a fighting chance
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@WingThaiJ, Well then you won. These are conservative values starting from Reagan thru Obama. The last real liberal president was Carter and he was part of the Rockefellers CFR Council of Foreign Relations
Clinton was a Republican as is Obama.
In the days of FDR and subsequent, the US paid for WWII, Korean and Vietnam. Taxes were raised to pay for these wars.
Reagan and Gingrich believe in "Starve the Beast" google it
This is what the massive deficits are about.
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits Tell me, what is your forecast if Obama wins? You know he won't change his spendg & you know that even if we had all Rich peoples $ we couldn't pay off debt; you know the real job creators are on hold; what good can come out of more Obama? At least repubs r going to cut spendg. Obama has NOTHING to campaign on, so he only has class warfare to sell to the economically illiterate
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@MrHoolits I will email you something from someone who worked his way from rags to riches, noting he never would have made it had he relied upon the Gov. He has employed people worldwide & mostly in U.S. & was a University Professor (most professors r only pencil pushers & confuse theory w/reality like Krugman does); he's the Real Thing; putting economics into practice. Look for it; and perhaps other such email.
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@WingThaiJ, HAVE YOU SEEN THE CLIPS OF WORLD TRADE CENTER 7?
Goddamit you stupid brainwashed fuck
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits ROFL, Wow, another Pot calling the Kettle Black. I sent you email from one who knows what's happening in the REAL WORLD... Read It less you wish to continue making a fool of yourself
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@MrHoolits Yeah, & Google UCLA study shows FDR prolonged the Depression; tons of info/studies showing this... Let's face it, Obama has no plans to cut spending by any sig. degree, which means if he gets elected, the debt will rise that whole time period, which can only lead to economic collapse.
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@WingThaiJ They hate Social Security and Medicare and all social programs and the easiest way to get rid of them is to be in so much debt there will no money available for those programs - "Starve the Beast"
What they want is the US the become a 3rd world country or Fascist where a few own everything and the rest are basically back as serfs. To finish their goal they must destroy the middle class which is the only thing that is in their way.
Sorry, but you are quite naive.
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits Well,look what Gov did w/these progs. True to Gov's way, they stole from the funds. Since they are there now, they need to be fixed. W/Obama it will be the few who CONTROLeveryone.It s not up to any group to DICTATE what one earns;if people have a problem w/earnings,than don't buy the product or service.I'm amazed at how backward your thinkg is&U call me Naive,ROLF.This is how the phrase,'pot calling the kettle black' came about.SPENDING HAS TO BE CUT; OBAMA AIN'T DOING IT
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@WingThaiJ, You just don't have a clue. Democrats and Republicans don't matter. It's illusion to believe your vote counts. Those that really run things are going to have who they want in the highest office.
Europe has given their sovereignty and their currency the world bank. Soon the US will be doing the same. Obama is nothing more than a figurehead. He is part of the Rockefellers Tri Lateral Commission and the Council of Foreign Relations.
God, Americans are so fucking stuipid
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits, Forecast? It doesn't matters who is president anymore. Fuck Obama who is puppet for the Banksters and the Rockefellers.
Just one more point as this is getting boring.
Have you seen the clips on Youtube of World Trade Center 7. In your life have you ever heard of a building collapsing at the speed of gravity from a small fire?
It never has happened in the past and will not happen in the future.
So stop with the fucking Republican talking points - It no longer matters.
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits ROLF, I happen to know the main guy who analyzed the Collapse WHO IS AN EXPERT... He was PAID to determine what went wrong & the inside job thing is ridiculous.. U didn't know u were speaking to someone who knows the very person involved... ROFL, .. friggn conspiracy theorists calling someone else brainwashed... ROFL
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@MrHoolits ROFL, INSERT YOUR FOOT IN MOUTH, ROFL..
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@MrHoolits George Soros is the only one I know who's trying to do this.. I like how you guys are made to feel you have the inside info... you learn what you are told .. I know people who are involved in worldwide markets.. so, go on make yourself look even more stupid by calling others stupid
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@WingThaiJ, You're such a moron. Luckily brave American are fighting for my country like Pilots For 9/11 Truth Presents "9/11 INTERCEPTED" -
watch?v=KhdppHwUJ9k
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Part 1 of 13 - Presentation by Richard Gage
watch?v=v8wSquKIBog
Any person with half a brain would know that there has never been a steel structure has ever collapse by a fire in the History of the World before and since.
But they have brainwashed half-wits like their with minds closed.
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits By the way you talk, it is clear you are on the defensive from the get-go; seems you are constantly called a nut case & brainwashed, so you try to beat others to the punch with your claims. No, I have a guy who is analyzing my home for potential repairs who was involved with analyzing the Twin Towers; He knows more than you, so I do understand it's hard to get rid of things in your brain you convinced yourself of; but I have access to the guy who knows. Sorry to burst your bubble.
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@MrHoolits Yeah, I've heard this before, but your basing this off of nothing more than what appears to make sense to you and prop. videos, etc.. Theorize all you want, in the meantime, we have only '2' choices, unless a 3rd person shows up handing the election over to Obama. G. Soros is the one who spoke of puttg someone else in office. If a Pub gets in & cuts spending & does away w/the needless regs; well, let's just see what happens from there.
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@MrHoolitsTo open a lemonade stand in America,u need to get a Gov approved fire extinguisher.There r lawyers today who can't even decipher new regs to advise clients;Bus.regs makes it nearly impossible to open a bus.,regs proven bad never get removed; For every new reg they should repeal 2 old one's,they won't. My accountant tells me he's advising clients to hold off on expandg their bus.or startg new ventures until Obama is out;his colleagues r doing the same; hmm,how many jobs lost?
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@MrHoolits Medicare & SS are already in place, they aren't going to be taken away; they screwed up by doing what Gov always does; they raided the funds. One of many reasons to make Gov smaller as a whole. Obamacare actually cut, what is it, $500,000,000 out of the Medicare Budget? Why do you think Jim Rogers moved his family to Singapore? Google him if you don't know him. Everything Gov gets into it fails, either slowly or quickly
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
@WingThaiJ, Do you realize that it costs 1 million dollars per soldier for support in Iraq and Afghanistan. Have you seen the clips on Youtube on World Trade Center 7, the only building not hit by terrorist jets and the only steel frame building in the world that has ever come at the speed of gravity from a small a fire.
Wake the fuck up.
MrHoolits 2 months ago
@MrHoolits Yes, and now imagine the FACT that Obama spent MORE than this. I can email you the figures if I can dig out the chart. Perhaps u were unaware of how much Obama is and has spent? If he gets reelected we are headed lo financial collapse. He has no intention of cutting spendg so w/a $15 Trill debt, what do you think will happen? We have Greece & Europe as an example, but the dems r ignoring what is beforer their very eyes.
WingThaiJ 2 months ago
Listen to Paul you fat zionist and mind your problems.
LuffyyyHM 2 months ago
"That's just stirring up trouble." The way Paul said it was hilarious.
OmarThePug 2 months ago