Dr Lipton, Thank you for what you are doing. It is in such harmony with what I do with people and assist them in achieving their new belief system. Always guiding them to find the understanding from within them. Thank you for this factual knowledge explaining what I do.
He mentioned "New Age Spiritualism". He Did say "so-called" New Age.... Fortunately he didn't bring it up again and when I listened to the entire series, I had to wonder that the New Age had to do with it anyway. Throughout, he talked only about the biology (of the cell, etc.). I guess, like anyone with a belief system, there is a desire to mention it at least once. That is why Christians mention Jesus Christ/God, Muslims mention Allah and New Agers, well they do their own thing.
I dont get why he is so anti-genes. Its not just the proteins (also lipids, polysaccharides, and nucleic acids) that control life, DNA and RNA are big parts of what makes you who you are. Epigenetics now tells us that acetylation and methylation of certain genes can occur due to lifestyle choices which can then be passed on but all that means is that we have SOME power as to what information is available for our cells to read. Bruce's message is a little misleading, genes are hugely important.
@dudepal187 genes just tell your cells how to make proteins. there just blueprints for proteins( and everything else that makes your cells) which do all the work. hes saying there not as important in making you you as mainstream biology is teaching
@redpillreality I understand that, but this is a prime example of pseudoscience. I just finished his book a month ago and was appalled. Epigenetics is a very interesting field but he is stretching the truth of it in order to promote his own world-view. He presents a lot of false ideas and attempts to fit science into Eastern philosophy. Even the order of gene expression that is so crucial to development is encoded in your genes. He is misleading people with false hope and information.
@dudepal187 ...some of his ideas may be false according to others, maybe not. One thing about it is that it is a progression of genetic science. First, one bit is discovered, then later another bit is discovered and then something is discovered to be wrong and then a bit more is discovered and so on. He HAS discovered something that needs to be looked at. Science without an open mind is not science at all. Isn't it interesting that the Bible says, "As a man thinketh, so is he."
@qbulb There is a difference between being open-minded and buying into BS. His ideas are just plain wrong, this is not a matter of opinion. You can't control gene expression on the level he promises with the mind alone. If science took his ideas seriously, we would be regressing. He is stretching truth, not discovering it. Genetics is fairly well-established (granted, still lots of questions), its the newer epigenetics that he is stretching and taking advantage of.
@dudepal187 he isn't discrediting genetics as a fact, hes discrediting genetics as a cause for all behavior and biology, scientists don't have a clue about consciousness yet, they've discovered no "physical" mechanism for it, they aren't even close, so ideas like this aren't so far-fetched, science can only prove things with repeated controlled experimentation, but how do you do that with consciousness, its not possible, epigenetics def can't accomplish such a thing
@bigu236 He is trying to discredit the central dogma, which is the main idea of information transfer in genetics, in order to support his view of how consciousness can heal you but his argument is flat-out wrong. Proteins do not transfer information nor change their sequence on their own. Any folding process and resulting function is encoded by DNA. It is already well known that genes do not influence all of your behavior, but that has noting to do with the central dogma.
@dudepal187 hes not "anti-gene", hes just trying to answer the question, where does acetylation and methylation come from, and then keeps tracing it back to probably the power of conciousness, at least i think thats where hes going with it
@bigu236 Where acetylation and methylation come from? Its a complex feedback system of special proteins that react to certain stimuli. A perfect example of of this would be the lac operon which determines whether or not you're lactose intolerant. That operon's correct functioning depends on the DNA.
Consciousness is a vague term that gets misused and abused. There is work linking "consciousness" to physical sources, but if you insist science can't study it then you're talking about faith.
You silly humans. It will take you forever to figure out that you are starved for electrons from the earth because you wear rubber shoes. Now re- consider the charge aspects on the DNA. Your entire physiology and spiritual energy is disrupted because of shoes. Ground your body. Bare feet on the ground. Its that simple.
Say, for example, this is a flat-out lie. Why would this make him "a charlatan of the worst and most vile sort"? It resonates as truthful with me. And, remember, this lecture is based on experiments that have been re-tested for 30+ years with similar outcomes. It is not a lie. Besides, it reconnects our mind/body.
What Bruce Lipton says on video 6 of this series (/watch?v=CFO741MrkIU) from 2:35 - 2:46. Is a god damned lie. This man is a charlatan of the worst and most vile sort.
I am sorry but that sounds like another spoon fed idea. And if that statement is just an opinion, I rather have opinions such as " I am boundless, limitless" . A few years bach I was reading a few passages on Lao Tzu, and one of the things he used to live by was to be spontaneous and not been tied down by "beliefs" which I believe was along with some of the ideas Mr Lipton is trying to convey in this 'new science'
@americanmambi He claims you can change your DNA. He is a liar. You may have some small measure of control over whether genes you already have get expressed or not. PERIOD. He is a con man of the worst caliber.
You are NOT limitless. Don't try jumping off a bridge to prove it.
@snexer actually, this is taught in most biology classes. Those useless calculations build logic, by promoting neuron pathway growth. Schools can't teach you, they only expose you to knowledge.
@LazyOtaku I'm sorry i don't see how my opinion presented free of anger and childish remarks is Trollish. MrNobodyNothing is a troll. I am not. i posted my thoughts on his video and just because i may not entirely agree with what he says, although if you properly interpret my post you will see that i am not disagreeing with the basis of his idea. You my friend, by not contributing anything at all to the discussion beyond calling me out, are the Troll
the only problem i see so far with this guys presentation is that he, thus far, has neglected to mention that our bodies 'performance' IS dependent upon our genetic makeup. it's like comparing a honda civic to a chevy metro. both are cars, both drive and are operated based on signals received from the driver. but the physical makeup of the cars and the components used in the cars vary thus giving each car a different level of performance.
@Trepsik -In Bruce Liptons presentation what you say here is just too obvious and clear that he is saying what you say he is not saying and so much more.Maybe the perception of being able to understand.
@snexer agreed that DNA is only the building plan. What i was trying to get across earlier is the basic limitations imposed by our genetic makeup. We can surely make the most out of that make up through conditioning, both physical (with exercise, proper nutrition, and stress control) and mental, through the ideas Mr. Lipton is presenting. but in the end we are still limited by what our maximum potential is. hence my car comparison.
I thoroughly believe in the ideology presented by eastern medicine. The whole mind over matter thing to put it plainly. The mind is the most powerful tool we posses. it is also, unfortunately in most cases, the most underused.
The most fundamental question of all: What is the underlying law of nature.
As the way of all things, what effect do you suppose its question, knowledge, understanding and application by billions of persons would have on the state of global economics, science, the humanities, education, government and business?
The lies and distortions in all walks of life are so insidious that majority have lost the real sense of themselves and the truth of our humanity . We have become money worshiping cowards, betraying our forefathers and the generations to follow. Stand in love and cooperation for our common well being for our common home the EARTH,
extant your darwinist heros like dawkins were saying vast strands in dna served no function, that was the majority scientific view, turned out it was wrong, john mattick called it one of the biggest mistakes in moecular biology, your darwinist icons also speculated that many organs in the body served no function, turned out that they were wrong, quit projecting your own ilimitations onto lipton. After all you created your extant account just to troll Mr Damian Poirier.
Why do you lie PTBLiar? Oh because you have nothing to gain by telling the truth that's right. There are still vast stretches of junk DNA. Humans have about 98,000 Endogenous Retro Viruses (ERVs) on board (most of which have yet to be exploited through evolution ) Meaning quite a lot of useless DNA. Psuedo genes like GULO which encodes for Vitamin C but is broken in us as it is in all apes is ALSO junk.
They never said well their may be some strands that have function lets have a look, the strands that were found to have function were also assumed to be junk dna, it was scientists working quietly on the side who went against the darwinian assumptions that these strands were nothing more than junk, it is why one of the pioneers in this field, john mattick called it one of the biggest mistakes in moecular biology.
You're an ape if you didn't realise that vast strands of dna that were found to have function were also previously believed to be junk based on darwinian assumptions LOL
Now that you've had you poop throwing session, tell the audience how this refutes anything about evolution. Tell us how it disproves common ancestry. Tell us anything at all other than OGM scientist's were wrong OMG!!!
You come here bashing lipton, the point is that just because something goes against your limited worldview and dogmatism that does not mean that it is the correct view, btw did you know that scientific studies have shown the positive benefit of meditation on health?
So there is a positive benefit from the mind and biology, you are stuck in the past.
I didn't say there wasn't jack ass. Stress is a killer. There's no need to make videos that lie about molecular biology to confirm and verify this. The studies that show meditation helps are good studies and benefit those who employ it. Note this is NOT what DR MORON here has been promoting. His particular snake oil culminates in episode 6 of this series where he blatantly lies about the research results of real scientists to promote his bizarre notions that you can rewrite your DNA.
If you were a physician you would be telling people to have their thymus gland removed, you wouldn't look for the cause of symptoms of any sickness that they had you would just pump them full of chemicals and then if they mentioned meditation then you would say oh that mind over body crap is for morons like lipton.
Don't you just love how this HYPOCRITE PTBL will out other people's accounts but never has the guts to out himself. He can not talk about other people integrity when he has none himself.
"A Harvard University study published last month found the first compelling evidence that the Relaxation Response (RR) - the physiological response to meditation, yoga, tai chi, Qi Gong or repetitive prayer - positively affects DNA.
Nineteen adults were long-term daily practitioners of various RR techniques, 20 were trained in RR eliciting techniques (breathing, mantra and mindfulness meditation) for 8 weeks, and 19 served as controls.
By analysis of blood samples, the study found that 2209 genes were differently expressed (switched on or off) between the long-term meditators and control group. Specifically, 1275 were up-regulated (their activity was increased) and 934 were down-regulated (their activity was reduced). cont:
The point is that he is showing that people are not just slaves to their genes and that there is some wriggle room and that is the words used by the author of that study, why you would try to debunk the positive role of mind over biology shows that you are a disgusting individual, also studies show that atheists have a higher predisposition to suicide and being someone that atttempted suicide yourself, do you think that is moral to do to actively promote that worldview?
Wow, you have a literacy problem too? Maybe remedial reading courses would help. But lets try this exercise. Quote my words debunking the positive role of mind over body and I'll concede your rant isn't a heaping steaming pile of ah hom.
Where did you give a balanced view of what dr lipton was saying, you just called the guy a moron, that seems you want to discredit his whole message, you didn't just point out where you found faults but are out to discredit his whole message, that shows that you are not being honest or balanced in your critique.
For not giving a balanced critique, I fell short. I did not feel it was called for so much praise was already rampant on these boards. Now, where is the fair and balanced assessment of my review? Please point out any science rebuttal I posted that was in error. So far you have not done so.
he is obviously not a moron, the most you can do is point out where you think he is mistaken but that does not demonstrate that he is a moron and given your ignorance about junk dna then anything you say will be taken with a pinch of salt, your claim against dr lipton is thus rejected.
You infer my ignorance of junk DNA P2BMoron. You infer that the statements regarding it that you posted earlier were the last word on it. Sorry, you are just not that knowledgeable. What the "greatest error" you were referring to was the notion of one gene one protein. Tell me oh great one, was it creationists who discovered the truth? WHAT? It was scientists? Again? Tell me, just who the fuck are you ridiculing and WHY?
Not true. Viruses that have infiltrated ones germ line qualify as junk until such time as a mutation or a series of mutations occurs in that stretch such that the cell can make use of it for something other than making viruses and viral protein coats.
For some weird reason you think that our previous misconceptions translate forward in isomorphic and identical fashion. Sorry bub, but that's just plain weird logic.
LOL, How can you sit there and say i was wrong when I've shown that nothing I've said was wrong? Show how ERVs and pseudo genes are not junk then you have a case. Till then you've done nothing but handwaving. Remember it's YOUR claim that there is zero junk. Claiming that we MIGHT at some unspecified future point find these things are not just is not verification that I'm wrong.
Again I did not claim there was no effect of the mind upon the body for there to exist a wrong claim.
@ExtantFrodit is best to ditch the junk dna hypothesis and assume activities will be found, and until i pointed out the scientific studies you did not fess up about the role of mind on body, quit lying.
I think it's fairly safe to ignore what you think has anything to do with research. Your calling a junk DNA hypothesis is a great example. YOU have an attachment to the outcome because you have attach a significance to a particular result. I do not care whether there is junk or not. It would not influence any decision of what to investigate or fund in DNA research. Look how much it matters to you.
I didn't call junk dna a hypothesis john mattick did LOL
AS for having an attachment it obviously matters to you that is why you desperately hold to it, it matters to you very much, and I am sure that it hurt you very much when these strands were found to have function LOL
"Last year, Mattick wrote an article for a German magazine that very clearly spells out his view on the wrong-headedness of the junk DNA hypothesis. It is this junk, he argues, that may very well hold the key to human complexity, variation and cognition. "
It is lucky scientists like mattick are doing work in the lab and that you are conducting your ignorance on Youtube.
The second point is that Dr Lipton is showing that patients are not as helpless as cold materialist thinkers like yourself would like to pretend but because you are dogmatic in your worldview and not to step outside of your little box then you want to push your own negativity and limited worldview on to others, hardly makes you a moral person, what a miserable and limited way you have of looking at the world.
"For hundreds of years Western medicine has looked at mind and body as totally separate entities, to the point where saying something 'is all in your head' implied that it was imaginary," said Dr. Benson to reporters. "Now we've found how changing the activity of the mind can alter the way basic genetic instructions are implemented."
james randi who is a friend of that douche bag dawkins has also attacked ramdev, while at the same time the big pharmaceutical companies that randi is an apologist for were patenting indian herbs and trying to patent many more which would put the cost of this medicine outside of the range of poor people, also the yoga that ramdev was teaching to millions if not billions for free around the world is part of the beneficial approach to mind body medicine,
Also why did not dawkins do a programme showing the way that treating symptoms by mainstream medicine only leads to many cases of secondary illness and death, why did dawkins in his enemies of reason programme not expose drug companies publishing fake journals and for producing adverts promoting drugs when people do not need them but you know anything to make a buck, cont:
Why is it atheists such as yourself and your idols like dawkins and randi use a broad brush to attack anyone who steps outside of their cold and limited materialistic box, do these things threaten your worldview?
It seems whether anything is an alternative to just pumping people full of drugs and looking to treating symptoms and a more holistic way of treating individuals, you will surely find a negative atheist out there trying to discredit them.
It also found that 1561 genes were expressed differently between the group who did the 8 weeks meditation training and the control group. Specifically, 874 were up-regulated and 687 were down-regulated.
Oxidative stress is one of the biological products of mental and emotional stress. It produces free radicals and is known to be involved in a host of disease processes, including atherosclerosis, Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease. It also accelerates aging at the cellular level. Ideally, we want a good response to oxidative stress so that we can prevent the negative effects.
In the study, blood analysis found significant changes in cellular metabolism and response to oxidative stress in the two meditation groups relative to the control group.
The scientists proposed that the Relaxation Response - whether it is induced through meditation, yoga or prayer - may counteract cellular damage due to chronic psychological stress.
The scientists proposed that the Relaxation Response - whether it is induced through meditation, yoga or prayer - may counteract cellular damage due to chronic psychological stress.
People have meditated for years and enjoyed better health (and a slower aging process) but many others have been sceptical as to its benefits. Now, we have solid scientific proof of the positive genetic effects of meditation in that it affects genes that positively influence cell metabolism and the response to oxidative stress."
Dr Bruce lipton is doing far more for humanity than a negative and ignorant dolt like you extant who does not know what the latest scientific studies are saying.
As I said, he could do it without lying. You are defending a liar and what's more is YOU KNOW IT. Try as you might ignoring that you can't switch on genes that don't exist and pretending that you can manufacture the genes you need by wishing for it is a recipe for disaster. Meditation won't fix your diabetes or Hodgekin's lymphoma. Lipton's snakeoil is vilified because his use of much genuine science to promote his lies undermines the loving efforts of genuine scientists to make a difference.
Meditation could very well help diabetes because not only does stress effect blood sugar levels but meditation helps regulate the acid/alkaline balance that is important to good health and Epigenetics which includes the mind effects on the body is accepted and has been validated by western science.
Extant my friend you shouldn't have such a hatred of things that go outside your narrow worldview especially when they are proven to have great benefits.
Extant what I say that you do seeing as we are old friends, put your hostility aside towards me and look up the health benefits of meditation, I do not need to tell you to look on google news and you will get articles that are mainstream about the benefits, just put your biased view aside and look at it from a neutral perspective.
If you were a sick person I would still care for your well being even if you are an ass to me on here, so drop this me against you mentality dude.
We are not friends. You out me and hide behind your anonymity as a fucking coward. You have been nothing but a liar, troll, and fucking pain in the ass. I have told you repeatedly that my anonymity was not for my sake but that of my wife and kids yet you persist in outing me every chance you get. You are the farthest thing from a friend I know of.
I've already said there were such benefits. You choose to ignore those statements. The point (for the umpteenth fucking time) is that this man is a LIAR. You can not rewrite your DNA to make it produce proteins just by wishing it. This is false science geared to kill people and I object to it whole heartedly. He'd not be getting the brunt of my ire if he'd kept it real.
even tai chi which is a moving meditation is being cited as being beneficial for even overcoming type 2 diabetes, yo look it up on google news.
I don't see how showing how the mind has a positive effect on the body is harmful, that dosen't negate the fact that people can use it as an additional healing method, it is not saying do not use other approaches to health but it is an addition.
Hi extant, I do not know about all of his claims, and you might be right and you may be right to get angry, I do not know but I do not accept how showing the power of mind generally is a harmful thing, but thanks for conceding that there are benefits to meditation, it is good that you are not dogmatic in that respect like those who follow the randi cult and dawkins.
well watch the rest of this series. He makes a lot of very bogus claims and abuses science to make those claims. He does this by deliberately lying about what science has actually found.
I do not fail to notice that even you have too much integrity to suggest that genetic type 1 diabetes is amenable to prayer and meditation. Lipton would disagree and say you just need to apply the proper signal. He is the worst kind of charlatan, one who uses 'the truth' and only lies "a little bit".
Extant, I wouldn't say just do meditation and prayer, i would say use these things as an adjunct to other forms of healing not as a replacement.
The other claims I do not know about and you might be right, I think he is raising awareness of epigenetics and I was reading some more interesting stuff on google news, I find it interesting, i am sure you find it interesting too, the rest of the stuff i would have to keep an open mind on, cont:
I mean I do not know how this relates to darwinism but then I saw an article by dr mercola that said darwinist roadblocks had held back discoveries in this area, But im willing to believe it is nothing to do with darwinism that motivates you here and am willing to take you at your word.
dr mercola as in mercola bump com?(a subscription only website)
I expect so since he is an ardent fan of lipton.
Having just watched "The Four Myth Perceptions of the Apocalypse" and found it abysmally drenched in fantasy and misconceptions like
1) Drugs don't really affect you.
2) You can rewrite your genes
3) Survival of the fittest means you're here by accident but cooperation shows that you aren't. This fool thinks cooperation wasn't known to be a device to make species fitter. Sad Very sad
Well I agree that ist point is wrong, drugs especially taken over a long period of time can have very bad consequences, I know somebody who's got intestinal problems because of drug medicine.
2. I knew that this must have some connection to your views on darwinism.
Survival of the fittest is a tautology.
Natural selection is the survival of the fittest. The fittest are those that survive. Therefore, evolution by natural selection is a tautology
You have to admit that Darwinism is a noose around researchers neck, Look at what happened with vestigial organs and junk dna.
Extant, i know you have devoted your life to darwin, but think out the box, carl woese is putting darwin ideas to bed and it looks like after 150 years darwins ideas are gonna be a footnote in history.
It is through epigenetic marks that environmental factors like diet, stress and prenatal nutrition can make an imprint on genes that is passed from one generation to the next.
But the potential is staggering. For decades, we have stumbled around massive Darwinian roadblocks. DNA, we thought, was an ironclad code that we and our children and their children had to live by. Now we can imagine a world in which we can tinker with DNA, bend it to our will"
Excuse me, but how does epigenetics refute common ancestry? Darwin didn't know of DNA but he deduced that information was carried from gametes to offspring. Nothing has changed. Epigenetics (typically siRNA in the egg) is still subject to mutation and natural selection. Where do you think the siRNA strands come from? They are chunks of mRNA that don't get expressed as protein.
You can write DNA and tinker with it but only if you have a lab. I imagine that world quite often.
I especially like the part where he honestly admits.
"But beware -- these changes can be good or bad. It works both ways.
You can improve your genetics or you can damage it."
Our biology is notoriously difficult to reverse engineer (mainly because there was no designer). These guys are into being anti-drug company because they have their own thing to market. An so far all they have is hype based on half truths and lies.
A lot of pro drug people are anti natural approaches to medicine because the pharmaceutical companies make their big bucks from attacking anything that challenges their monopoly on health, except drugs are nothing more than symptom chasing and they do not address the cause and they often cause secondary illness and death.
To call those that challenge big pharma as liars has no credibility, big pharma even published fake journals to pass their drugs off and engaged in ghost writing articles.
ptbl, get off this page and watch the rest of the series. Lipton is a liar. Plain and simple. I have no money. I could have no vested interest in pharmica.
"Nothing more than symptom chasing" WOW, what can I say? Hundreds of thousands of lives saved and you sit there on your tush saying that? Try again buster.
There are some benefits for example say somebody has a heart problem but as a cure all by ignoring the terrain of the body and just chasing symptoms it has been a disaster.
That is why I hope that your friends and loved ones learn about how mind body medicine can not only help sickness but learn about it as a preventative, because if they are apologists for the dishonest practises of big pharma or uncritically swallow that big pharma feeds them drugs because it loves them then they might not be so fortunate, i hope you always have good health extand for your own sake.
December 1st I was diagnosed with AML. I spent 2.5 months in the hospital undergoing 3 rounds of heavy chemo. My biopsy Monday showed me to be free of any leukemia so I am in remission. It's a miracle!
Im happy for you, and it is good that you caught it early.
But you know they market drugs like they are marketing candy and they create new illnesses just to market drugs, in the usa they run commercials and encourage people to take drugs even if they are just feeling slightly down then that is marketed as depression and to take drugs, there have been many people who have had secondary sickness and died from drugs, it has its place but as a cure all it is a disaster.
Not only does long term drug use screw up the ecology of the gut, it screws up the acid alkaline balance of the blood, it causes all different secondary sicknesses and side effects and that is when proper nutrition and natural approaches would have got the body into balance and without the disasterous effects of pumping the body full of drugs, pharma makes money by keeping people sick, treating the cause is not good business, creating secondary sickness and masking symptons is.
I agree it would be good to disconnect health care from capitalism. Obama has tried to make headway but he's been blocked by who? Oh my lets try that again.
Obama is doing deals with big pharma, look it up on google news.
Universal health care, Well if it is based on the british system then it is a disaster, btw we have a socialised system in the uk and that has not stopped them pushing drugs as the solution.
well whether homeopathy helps or not is a longer debate, it could be placebo just like the high effects that have come to light in many drug trials, that is why the study of epigenetics is interesting.
Why are you getting upset with Lipton? if his brain is operating him and he is not operating his brain then there is nothing to get upset about, oh but then you cannot help it because as you deny the existence of the self, as free will is an illusion then you cannot help with your reactions.
Do his views upset your determinism?
Of course every opinion you hold you would have to reject to be consistent but what can we do with somebody who is a deterministic machine eh.
The ironic thing is that because of the disatrous way the health system is run that in the areas where drugs do help like cancer then the medicines are not accesible.
I mean why would they ghostwrite trials and publish fake journals if they were so great?
don't you think it is disgusting that they commercialise sickness and try to encourage people to take drugs when they do not need them?
it seems that you are not motivated by honesty in attacking lipton because you are an apologist for the dishonesty of the pharmaceutical companies this is what motivates you and your hypocrisy about lipton needs to be taken with a pinch of salt
wow ptbl, now i'm an apologist for the pharmica. I said and I quote It would be good to disconnect capitalism from health care" How the fuck do you read that as giving a pat on the back to pharms? Yes lots of people have also not been saved by pharms, but we are still quite a ways from personalized medicine.
I think people should be INFORMED about their internal biochemistry and have the option to take control of it. I approve whatever leads to that. Lies from pharms nor lies from lipton help.
Capitalism - priivate or state versions doesnt matter- is historically outdated its like a tight shoe on the feet of humanity, its painful dangerous and a brake on further progress for a truly harmonious reality based on cooperation for our common well being across the world for all generations to come.
Sad. Where did the membrane's protein's come from? Why the particular proteins that some given cell has? The nucleus provided the code for the manufacture of the membrane proteins. If the code for a particular antenna doesn't reside in the nucleus then the cell will not receive that signal AND THAT AFFECTS BEHAVIOR.
As to moran!! did you know that in 1491, the world was flat. by the year 1492 it suddenly turned into a sphere, WOW ISN'T SCIENCE WONDERFUL. ITS ALWAYS 100% RIGHT...... NOT
Actually I did, they also had some very interesting medical practices that modern medicine doesn't accept as relevent in todays wonderful world of drugs and other so called "scientific" interferences in the natural processes of healing.
That may well be. Then again maybe you just don't hang around the right medical circles. I've seen demonstrations of very sensible use of leeches and maggots such that I'd utilize them myself under similar circumstances.
i agree, anyone with basic university biology knows all this, he's just trying to make his ideas seem novel. he doesn't emphasize that the genes determine WHAT proteins you can make and thus HOW you can respond to stimuli. the nucleus is not the brain of the cell, because the cell has no brain just like an engine doesn't have a brain. his lecture style is used because he is trying to convince an audience with little scientific education. everything he says is taught in first year bio, take it
anyone with basic university biology knows this?? have you watched all 7 parts so you have the complete picture? if you have you will know that this is not taught in Uni, it goes against nearly all thinking. Most people do not understand that their perception is the key to everything, most are victims of what they are born with. This is not common knowledge and if you understand what he is actually saying you would realize this..
Yep, totally agree with you. He is a smart guy, unfortunately due to his odd way of presenting the info, it may get highjacked by crazy pseudoscientists (which the internet is full of lol).
Okay, I should have watched more before I commented in the earlier parts of this video. He is actually quite clever, but not very good at presenting his info. He isnt saying anything new though, he is just dressing up old information in new language (some of which is unneccesarily emotive).
Dr. Lipton your work is excellent. I'm a student at Bermuda College and my lecture Dr. Tracy Harney has our cellular class 2210 reading your book "The Biology of Belief's". Thank God for your book, without it cellular biology would be more difficult to grasp.
Big BL is great. The only other person whom shows that much excitement is Cookie Monster. To be honest if the Cookie Monster was giving the talk, but using analogies of cookies in relation to cells, I think it might be better. Just a suggestion. COOKIIIEIEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! NOM-NOM-OM-OMM-OM-MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Great presentation! The content of this series on (cellular) Perception, 1-7, is the new model for biology at the level of full consciousness and self determination and invites itself to be included in all anatomy and physiology programs. You are an inspiration, Dr. Lipton.
Dr Lipton, Thank you for what you are doing. It is in such harmony with what I do with people and assist them in achieving their new belief system. Always guiding them to find the understanding from within them. Thank you for this factual knowledge explaining what I do.
Paivi Lappalainen
enkeliguide 4 weeks ago
He mentioned "New Age Spiritualism". He Did say "so-called" New Age.... Fortunately he didn't bring it up again and when I listened to the entire series, I had to wonder that the New Age had to do with it anyway. Throughout, he talked only about the biology (of the cell, etc.). I guess, like anyone with a belief system, there is a desire to mention it at least once. That is why Christians mention Jesus Christ/God, Muslims mention Allah and New Agers, well they do their own thing.
qbulb 5 months ago
I dont get why he is so anti-genes. Its not just the proteins (also lipids, polysaccharides, and nucleic acids) that control life, DNA and RNA are big parts of what makes you who you are. Epigenetics now tells us that acetylation and methylation of certain genes can occur due to lifestyle choices which can then be passed on but all that means is that we have SOME power as to what information is available for our cells to read. Bruce's message is a little misleading, genes are hugely important.
dudepal187 6 months ago
@dudepal187 genes just tell your cells how to make proteins. there just blueprints for proteins( and everything else that makes your cells) which do all the work. hes saying there not as important in making you you as mainstream biology is teaching
redpillreality 5 months ago
@redpillreality I understand that, but this is a prime example of pseudoscience. I just finished his book a month ago and was appalled. Epigenetics is a very interesting field but he is stretching the truth of it in order to promote his own world-view. He presents a lot of false ideas and attempts to fit science into Eastern philosophy. Even the order of gene expression that is so crucial to development is encoded in your genes. He is misleading people with false hope and information.
dudepal187 5 months ago
@dudepal187 ...some of his ideas may be false according to others, maybe not. One thing about it is that it is a progression of genetic science. First, one bit is discovered, then later another bit is discovered and then something is discovered to be wrong and then a bit more is discovered and so on. He HAS discovered something that needs to be looked at. Science without an open mind is not science at all. Isn't it interesting that the Bible says, "As a man thinketh, so is he."
qbulb 5 months ago
@qbulb There is a difference between being open-minded and buying into BS. His ideas are just plain wrong, this is not a matter of opinion. You can't control gene expression on the level he promises with the mind alone. If science took his ideas seriously, we would be regressing. He is stretching truth, not discovering it. Genetics is fairly well-established (granted, still lots of questions), its the newer epigenetics that he is stretching and taking advantage of.
dudepal187 5 months ago
@dudepal187 he isn't discrediting genetics as a fact, hes discrediting genetics as a cause for all behavior and biology, scientists don't have a clue about consciousness yet, they've discovered no "physical" mechanism for it, they aren't even close, so ideas like this aren't so far-fetched, science can only prove things with repeated controlled experimentation, but how do you do that with consciousness, its not possible, epigenetics def can't accomplish such a thing
bigu236 3 months ago
@bigu236 He is trying to discredit the central dogma, which is the main idea of information transfer in genetics, in order to support his view of how consciousness can heal you but his argument is flat-out wrong. Proteins do not transfer information nor change their sequence on their own. Any folding process and resulting function is encoded by DNA. It is already well known that genes do not influence all of your behavior, but that has noting to do with the central dogma.
dudepal187 3 months ago
@dudepal187 hes not "anti-gene", hes just trying to answer the question, where does acetylation and methylation come from, and then keeps tracing it back to probably the power of conciousness, at least i think thats where hes going with it
bigu236 3 months ago
@bigu236 Where acetylation and methylation come from? Its a complex feedback system of special proteins that react to certain stimuli. A perfect example of of this would be the lac operon which determines whether or not you're lactose intolerant. That operon's correct functioning depends on the DNA.
Consciousness is a vague term that gets misused and abused. There is work linking "consciousness" to physical sources, but if you insist science can't study it then you're talking about faith.
dudepal187 3 months ago
@snexer They do in England, in high school, but not in as much detail.
0121881066 7 months ago
You silly humans. It will take you forever to figure out that you are starved for electrons from the earth because you wear rubber shoes. Now re- consider the charge aspects on the DNA. Your entire physiology and spiritual energy is disrupted because of shoes. Ground your body. Bare feet on the ground. Its that simple.
soulflyz88 9 months ago
Say, for example, this is a flat-out lie. Why would this make him "a charlatan of the worst and most vile sort"? It resonates as truthful with me. And, remember, this lecture is based on experiments that have been re-tested for 30+ years with similar outcomes. It is not a lie. Besides, it reconnects our mind/body.
vekunde 9 months ago
What Bruce Lipton says on video 6 of this series (/watch?v=CFO741MrkIU) from 2:35 - 2:46. Is a god damned lie. This man is a charlatan of the worst and most vile sort.
ExtantFrodo 9 months ago
"Limits of our genetics"
I am sorry but that sounds like another spoon fed idea. And if that statement is just an opinion, I rather have opinions such as " I am boundless, limitless" . A few years bach I was reading a few passages on Lao Tzu, and one of the things he used to live by was to be spontaneous and not been tied down by "beliefs" which I believe was along with some of the ideas Mr Lipton is trying to convey in this 'new science'
americanmambi 1 year ago
@americanmambi He claims you can change your DNA. He is a liar. You may have some small measure of control over whether genes you already have get expressed or not. PERIOD. He is a con man of the worst caliber.
You are NOT limitless. Don't try jumping off a bridge to prove it.
ExtantFrodo 10 months ago
@ExtantFrodo I accept your opinion and respect it. I still do consider myself boundless and limitless.
americanmambi 10 months ago
@americanmambi Fine, just please keep your insanity away from everyone else. Okay?
ExtantFrodo 10 months ago
why do i get taught some useless calculations i will never need in my life in school, and this isn't taught at school?
this is what is wrong with the entire school system...
snexer 1 year ago 27
@snexer nah you're probably just retarded
FragmakerPoland 8 months ago
@snexer actually, this is taught in most biology classes. Those useless calculations build logic, by promoting neuron pathway growth. Schools can't teach you, they only expose you to knowledge.
andre178 5 months ago
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jad743ify 5 months ago
this guy is great!!!!!!!!!
mproductionsmusik 1 year ago
trepsik and mrnobobynothing are prime examples of how trolls respond to their environment. lol
LazyOtaku 1 year ago 12
@LazyOtaku I'm sorry i don't see how my opinion presented free of anger and childish remarks is Trollish. MrNobodyNothing is a troll. I am not. i posted my thoughts on his video and just because i may not entirely agree with what he says, although if you properly interpret my post you will see that i am not disagreeing with the basis of his idea. You my friend, by not contributing anything at all to the discussion beyond calling me out, are the Troll
Trepsik 1 year ago
lol, he knows about Butterwick paper patterns.
munumoo 1 year ago
the only problem i see so far with this guys presentation is that he, thus far, has neglected to mention that our bodies 'performance' IS dependent upon our genetic makeup. it's like comparing a honda civic to a chevy metro. both are cars, both drive and are operated based on signals received from the driver. but the physical makeup of the cars and the components used in the cars vary thus giving each car a different level of performance.
Trepsik 1 year ago
@Trepsik -In Bruce Liptons presentation what you say here is just too obvious and clear that he is saying what you say he is not saying and so much more.Maybe the perception of being able to understand.
bisligcity 1 year ago
@Trepsik
WRONG, Jackass!
MrNobodyNothing 1 year ago
@MrNobodyNothing
cute post
Trepsik 1 year ago
@Trepsik
Glad you like it!
;)
MrNobodyNothing 1 year ago
@MrNobodyNothing
but please enlighten me as to what made my remark so WRONG, Smartass!
Trepsik 1 year ago
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@Trepsik
Because you ARE a Dumb ass! ;)
MrNobodyNothing 1 year ago
@Trepsik "good genetics": a fking ferrrari
"bad genetics" : a smart
ferrari would lose to a smart in a race wouldnt it?
now what if the ferrari is driven by a retard and the smart by a f1 driver?
hurr durr dna is only the build plan.
snexer 1 year ago
@snexer agreed that DNA is only the building plan. What i was trying to get across earlier is the basic limitations imposed by our genetic makeup. We can surely make the most out of that make up through conditioning, both physical (with exercise, proper nutrition, and stress control) and mental, through the ideas Mr. Lipton is presenting. but in the end we are still limited by what our maximum potential is. hence my car comparison.
Trepsik 1 year ago
@Trepsik that is absolutely right, but do not forget, the limits of our genetic make up are further away then you would think.
snexer 1 year ago
I thoroughly believe in the ideology presented by eastern medicine. The whole mind over matter thing to put it plainly. The mind is the most powerful tool we posses. it is also, unfortunately in most cases, the most underused.
Trepsik 1 year ago
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The most fundamental question of all: What is the underlying law of nature.
As the way of all things, what effect do you suppose its question, knowledge, understanding and application by billions of persons would have on the state of global economics, science, the humanities, education, government and business?
TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
Obamas only slightly better than Bush. This guy is very intellegent and take heed that its just a theroy.
rezen1983 1 year ago
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ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
fascinating discussion...thanks for sharing this vid
Mike3gdc 2 years ago
The lies and distortions in all walks of life are so insidious that majority have lost the real sense of themselves and the truth of our humanity . We have become money worshiping cowards, betraying our forefathers and the generations to follow. Stand in love and cooperation for our common well being for our common home the EARTH,
arzoyan 2 years ago
ExtantDildos body count would be higher than jack kervorkian and harold shipman combined if he were a doctor.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
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ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
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ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
extant your darwinist heros like dawkins were saying vast strands in dna served no function, that was the majority scientific view, turned out it was wrong, john mattick called it one of the biggest mistakes in moecular biology, your darwinist icons also speculated that many organs in the body served no function, turned out that they were wrong, quit projecting your own ilimitations onto lipton. After all you created your extant account just to troll Mr Damian Poirier.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
Why do you lie PTBLiar? Oh because you have nothing to gain by telling the truth that's right. There are still vast stretches of junk DNA. Humans have about 98,000 Endogenous Retro Viruses (ERVs) on board (most of which have yet to be exploited through evolution ) Meaning quite a lot of useless DNA. Psuedo genes like GULO which encodes for Vitamin C but is broken in us as it is in all apes is ALSO junk.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
Oh the projection from you extant, how exquisite.
They never said well their may be some strands that have function lets have a look, the strands that were found to have function were also assumed to be junk dna, it was scientists working quietly on the side who went against the darwinian assumptions that these strands were nothing more than junk, it is why one of the pioneers in this field, john mattick called it one of the biggest mistakes in moecular biology.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
You're an ape if you didn't realise that vast strands of dna that were found to have function were also previously believed to be junk based on darwinian assumptions LOL
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
Now that you've had you poop throwing session, tell the audience how this refutes anything about evolution. Tell us how it disproves common ancestry. Tell us anything at all other than OGM scientist's were wrong OMG!!!
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
poop throwing
You come here bashing lipton, the point is that just because something goes against your limited worldview and dogmatism that does not mean that it is the correct view, btw did you know that scientific studies have shown the positive benefit of meditation on health?
So there is a positive benefit from the mind and biology, you are stuck in the past.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
* there is a correlation of the mind positively affecting the persons biology.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
I didn't say there wasn't jack ass. Stress is a killer. There's no need to make videos that lie about molecular biology to confirm and verify this. The studies that show meditation helps are good studies and benefit those who employ it. Note this is NOT what DR MORON here has been promoting. His particular snake oil culminates in episode 6 of this series where he blatantly lies about the research results of real scientists to promote his bizarre notions that you can rewrite your DNA.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
If you were a physician you would be telling people to have their thymus gland removed, you wouldn't look for the cause of symptoms of any sickness that they had you would just pump them full of chemicals and then if they mentioned meditation then you would say oh that mind over body crap is for morons like lipton.
HAR HAR HAR HAR
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
Don't you just love how this HYPOCRITE PTBL will out other people's accounts but never has the guts to out himself. He can not talk about other people integrity when he has none himself.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
"A Harvard University study published last month found the first compelling evidence that the Relaxation Response (RR) - the physiological response to meditation, yoga, tai chi, Qi Gong or repetitive prayer - positively affects DNA.
Nineteen adults were long-term daily practitioners of various RR techniques, 20 were trained in RR eliciting techniques (breathing, mantra and mindfulness meditation) for 8 weeks, and 19 served as controls.
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ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
By analysis of blood samples, the study found that 2209 genes were differently expressed (switched on or off) between the long-term meditators and control group. Specifically, 1275 were up-regulated (their activity was increased) and 934 were down-regulated (their activity was reduced). cont:
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
Sorry, none of the 2209 genes could be differently expressed if they were not present. OOPS There goes half the argument.
I guess it skipped right passed you too genius. You can't turn on a gene that doesn't exist. Sheesh.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
@ExtantFrodo
The point is that he is showing that people are not just slaves to their genes and that there is some wriggle room and that is the words used by the author of that study, why you would try to debunk the positive role of mind over biology shows that you are a disgusting individual, also studies show that atheists have a higher predisposition to suicide and being someone that atttempted suicide yourself, do you think that is moral to do to actively promote that worldview?
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
Wow, you have a literacy problem too? Maybe remedial reading courses would help. But lets try this exercise. Quote my words debunking the positive role of mind over body and I'll concede your rant isn't a heaping steaming pile of ah hom.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
Where did you give a balanced view of what dr lipton was saying, you just called the guy a moron, that seems you want to discredit his whole message, you didn't just point out where you found faults but are out to discredit his whole message, that shows that you are not being honest or balanced in your critique.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
For not giving a balanced critique, I fell short. I did not feel it was called for so much praise was already rampant on these boards. Now, where is the fair and balanced assessment of my review? Please point out any science rebuttal I posted that was in error. So far you have not done so.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
Oh you are in error calling the guy a moron.
he is obviously not a moron, the most you can do is point out where you think he is mistaken but that does not demonstrate that he is a moron and given your ignorance about junk dna then anything you say will be taken with a pinch of salt, your claim against dr lipton is thus rejected.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
You infer my ignorance of junk DNA P2BMoron. You infer that the statements regarding it that you posted earlier were the last word on it. Sorry, you are just not that knowledgeable. What the "greatest error" you were referring to was the notion of one gene one protein. Tell me oh great one, was it creationists who discovered the truth? WHAT? It was scientists? Again? Tell me, just who the fuck are you ridiculing and WHY?
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
The fact you are even going on about junk dna is an argument from ignorance.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
Not true. Viruses that have infiltrated ones germ line qualify as junk until such time as a mutation or a series of mutations occurs in that stretch such that the cell can make use of it for something other than making viruses and viral protein coats.
My my, talk about ignorance.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
For some weird reason you think that our previous misconceptions translate forward in isomorphic and identical fashion. Sorry bub, but that's just plain weird logic.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
Anything you say i will take with a pinch of salt seeing as you were wrong about junk dna and wrong about how the mind affects the body.
lol
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
LOL, How can you sit there and say i was wrong when I've shown that nothing I've said was wrong? Show how ERVs and pseudo genes are not junk then you have a case. Till then you've done nothing but handwaving. Remember it's YOUR claim that there is zero junk. Claiming that we MIGHT at some unspecified future point find these things are not just is not verification that I'm wrong.
Again I did not claim there was no effect of the mind upon the body for there to exist a wrong claim.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
I think we can dismiss further claim by you as putrid lies and unsubstaniatable bogus claims.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
@ExtantFrodit is best to ditch the junk dna hypothesis and assume activities will be found, and until i pointed out the scientific studies you did not fess up about the role of mind on body, quit lying.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
I think it's fairly safe to ignore what you think has anything to do with research. Your calling a junk DNA hypothesis is a great example. YOU have an attachment to the outcome because you have attach a significance to a particular result. I do not care whether there is junk or not. It would not influence any decision of what to investigate or fund in DNA research. Look how much it matters to you.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
I didn't call junk dna a hypothesis john mattick did LOL
AS for having an attachment it obviously matters to you that is why you desperately hold to it, it matters to you very much, and I am sure that it hurt you very much when these strands were found to have function LOL
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
yes, you so often express certainty about me that is utterly wrong. It's never been entertaining really, just boring.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
@ExtantFrodo
Oh I was just pointing out your projection, if you find your subconcious beliefs boring then it is a problem for you.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
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ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
From lifescientist.
"Last year, Mattick wrote an article for a German magazine that very clearly spells out his view on the wrong-headedness of the junk DNA hypothesis. It is this junk, he argues, that may very well hold the key to human complexity, variation and cognition. "
It is lucky scientists like mattick are doing work in the lab and that you are conducting your ignorance on Youtube.
LOL
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
The second point is that Dr Lipton is showing that patients are not as helpless as cold materialist thinkers like yourself would like to pretend but because you are dogmatic in your worldview and not to step outside of your little box then you want to push your own negativity and limited worldview on to others, hardly makes you a moral person, what a miserable and limited way you have of looking at the world.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
My point was that he could do that without being actively and purposely deceptive. Get off your high horse attack mode asshole.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
"For hundreds of years Western medicine has looked at mind and body as totally separate entities, to the point where saying something 'is all in your head' implied that it was imaginary," said Dr. Benson to reporters. "Now we've found how changing the activity of the mind can alter the way basic genetic instructions are implemented."
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
@ExtantFrodo
james randi who is a friend of that douche bag dawkins has also attacked ramdev, while at the same time the big pharmaceutical companies that randi is an apologist for were patenting indian herbs and trying to patent many more which would put the cost of this medicine outside of the range of poor people, also the yoga that ramdev was teaching to millions if not billions for free around the world is part of the beneficial approach to mind body medicine,
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
@ExtantFrodo
Also why did not dawkins do a programme showing the way that treating symptoms by mainstream medicine only leads to many cases of secondary illness and death, why did dawkins in his enemies of reason programme not expose drug companies publishing fake journals and for producing adverts promoting drugs when people do not need them but you know anything to make a buck, cont:
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
Maybe he's hoping you will do it since you have so much information on it.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
@ExtantFrodo
You have the information available to you too, you just choose to be ignorant.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
no, I'm not very well informed on those issues and would be foolish to attempt to pose as an authority on them.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
Why is it atheists such as yourself and your idols like dawkins and randi use a broad brush to attack anyone who steps outside of their cold and limited materialistic box, do these things threaten your worldview?
It seems whether anything is an alternative to just pumping people full of drugs and looking to treating symptoms and a more holistic way of treating individuals, you will surely find a negative atheist out there trying to discredit them.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
That should read not only leads to secondary illness and death in many instances.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
It also found that 1561 genes were expressed differently between the group who did the 8 weeks meditation training and the control group. Specifically, 874 were up-regulated and 687 were down-regulated.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
In other words, meditation - short or long term - causes hundreds of genes to turn on or off.
Many of the genes were involved in cellular metabolism and in the body's response to 'oxidative stress'.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
Oxidative stress is one of the biological products of mental and emotional stress. It produces free radicals and is known to be involved in a host of disease processes, including atherosclerosis, Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease. It also accelerates aging at the cellular level. Ideally, we want a good response to oxidative stress so that we can prevent the negative effects.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
In the study, blood analysis found significant changes in cellular metabolism and response to oxidative stress in the two meditation groups relative to the control group.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
The scientists proposed that the Relaxation Response - whether it is induced through meditation, yoga or prayer - may counteract cellular damage due to chronic psychological stress.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
The scientists proposed that the Relaxation Response - whether it is induced through meditation, yoga or prayer - may counteract cellular damage due to chronic psychological stress.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
People have meditated for years and enjoyed better health (and a slower aging process) but many others have been sceptical as to its benefits. Now, we have solid scientific proof of the positive genetic effects of meditation in that it affects genes that positively influence cell metabolism and the response to oxidative stress."
Dr Bruce lipton is doing far more for humanity than a negative and ignorant dolt like you extant who does not know what the latest scientific studies are saying.
ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
As I said, he could do it without lying. You are defending a liar and what's more is YOU KNOW IT. Try as you might ignoring that you can't switch on genes that don't exist and pretending that you can manufacture the genes you need by wishing for it is a recipe for disaster. Meditation won't fix your diabetes or Hodgekin's lymphoma. Lipton's snakeoil is vilified because his use of much genuine science to promote his lies undermines the loving efforts of genuine scientists to make a difference.
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
Meditation could very well help diabetes because not only does stress effect blood sugar levels but meditation helps regulate the acid/alkaline balance that is important to good health and Epigenetics which includes the mind effects on the body is accepted and has been validated by western science.
Extant my friend you shouldn't have such a hatred of things that go outside your narrow worldview especially when they are proven to have great benefits.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
Extant what I say that you do seeing as we are old friends, put your hostility aside towards me and look up the health benefits of meditation, I do not need to tell you to look on google news and you will get articles that are mainstream about the benefits, just put your biased view aside and look at it from a neutral perspective.
If you were a sick person I would still care for your well being even if you are an ass to me on here, so drop this me against you mentality dude.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
We are not friends. You out me and hide behind your anonymity as a fucking coward. You have been nothing but a liar, troll, and fucking pain in the ass. I have told you repeatedly that my anonymity was not for my sake but that of my wife and kids yet you persist in outing me every chance you get. You are the farthest thing from a friend I know of.
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
Do you think that is the way to talk to your friend?
"but a liar, troll, and fucking pain in the ass"
And yet you are the one engaging me in debate.
lol
seriously put aside your hostilities and look up the benefits of meditation, do not have such a narrow way of looking at the world.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
I've already said there were such benefits. You choose to ignore those statements. The point (for the umpteenth fucking time) is that this man is a LIAR. You can not rewrite your DNA to make it produce proteins just by wishing it. This is false science geared to kill people and I object to it whole heartedly. He'd not be getting the brunt of my ire if he'd kept it real.
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
But you attacked the benefits on diabetes and there is some promising results of research that it can be a great aid to diabetes,cont:
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
even tai chi which is a moving meditation is being cited as being beneficial for even overcoming type 2 diabetes, yo look it up on google news.
I don't see how showing how the mind has a positive effect on the body is harmful, that dosen't negate the fact that people can use it as an additional healing method, it is not saying do not use other approaches to health but it is an addition.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
Hi extant, I do not know about all of his claims, and you might be right and you may be right to get angry, I do not know but I do not accept how showing the power of mind generally is a harmful thing, but thanks for conceding that there are benefits to meditation, it is good that you are not dogmatic in that respect like those who follow the randi cult and dawkins.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
well watch the rest of this series. He makes a lot of very bogus claims and abuses science to make those claims. He does this by deliberately lying about what science has actually found.
I do not fail to notice that even you have too much integrity to suggest that genetic type 1 diabetes is amenable to prayer and meditation. Lipton would disagree and say you just need to apply the proper signal. He is the worst kind of charlatan, one who uses 'the truth' and only lies "a little bit".
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
Extant, I wouldn't say just do meditation and prayer, i would say use these things as an adjunct to other forms of healing not as a replacement.
The other claims I do not know about and you might be right, I think he is raising awareness of epigenetics and I was reading some more interesting stuff on google news, I find it interesting, i am sure you find it interesting too, the rest of the stuff i would have to keep an open mind on, cont:
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
I mean I do not know how this relates to darwinism but then I saw an article by dr mercola that said darwinist roadblocks had held back discoveries in this area, But im willing to believe it is nothing to do with darwinism that motivates you here and am willing to take you at your word.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
dr mercola as in mercola bump com?(a subscription only website)
I expect so since he is an ardent fan of lipton.
Having just watched "The Four Myth Perceptions of the Apocalypse" and found it abysmally drenched in fantasy and misconceptions like
1) Drugs don't really affect you.
2) You can rewrite your genes
3) Survival of the fittest means you're here by accident but cooperation shows that you aren't. This fool thinks cooperation wasn't known to be a device to make species fitter. Sad Very sad
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
Well I agree that ist point is wrong, drugs especially taken over a long period of time can have very bad consequences, I know somebody who's got intestinal problems because of drug medicine.
2. I knew that this must have some connection to your views on darwinism.
Survival of the fittest is a tautology.
Natural selection is the survival of the fittest. The fittest are those that survive. Therefore, evolution by natural selection is a tautology
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
Natural selection is the demise of the least fit. Everything that gets to reproduce gets to contribute everything its made of to the gene pool.
It's not a tautology because the results are very real and very non-random.
I saw nothing about darwinism until I went hunting mercola at your suggestion.
why did you skip the one about rewriting genes?
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
You have to admit that Darwinism is a noose around researchers neck, Look at what happened with vestigial organs and junk dna.
Extant, i know you have devoted your life to darwin, but think out the box, carl woese is putting darwin ideas to bed and it looks like after 150 years darwins ideas are gonna be a footnote in history.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
You have to admit that mercola has some good articles my friend.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
Extant, this is from his article about how new research shows how stress can bring on cancer.
"It is these epigenetic "marks" that tell your genes to switch on or off, to speak loudly or whisper.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
It is through epigenetic marks that environmental factors like diet, stress and prenatal nutrition can make an imprint on genes that is passed from one generation to the next.
But the potential is staggering. For decades, we have stumbled around massive Darwinian roadblocks. DNA, we thought, was an ironclad code that we and our children and their children had to live by. Now we can imagine a world in which we can tinker with DNA, bend it to our will"
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
Excuse me, but how does epigenetics refute common ancestry? Darwin didn't know of DNA but he deduced that information was carried from gametes to offspring. Nothing has changed. Epigenetics (typically siRNA in the egg) is still subject to mutation and natural selection. Where do you think the siRNA strands come from? They are chunks of mRNA that don't get expressed as protein.
You can write DNA and tinker with it but only if you have a lab. I imagine that world quite often.
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
I will get the link for the article for you.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
h t t p : // w w w .foodconsumer . org /newsite/ Non-food/ Disease /dna_your_destiny_2301101022 . h tm l
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
I especially like the part where he honestly admits.
"But beware -- these changes can be good or bad. It works both ways.
You can improve your genetics or you can damage it."
Our biology is notoriously difficult to reverse engineer (mainly because there was no designer). These guys are into being anti-drug company because they have their own thing to market. An so far all they have is hype based on half truths and lies.
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
A lot of pro drug people are anti natural approaches to medicine because the pharmaceutical companies make their big bucks from attacking anything that challenges their monopoly on health, except drugs are nothing more than symptom chasing and they do not address the cause and they often cause secondary illness and death.
To call those that challenge big pharma as liars has no credibility, big pharma even published fake journals to pass their drugs off and engaged in ghost writing articles.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
ptbl, get off this page and watch the rest of the series. Lipton is a liar. Plain and simple. I have no money. I could have no vested interest in pharmica.
"Nothing more than symptom chasing" WOW, what can I say? Hundreds of thousands of lives saved and you sit there on your tush saying that? Try again buster.
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
And so many more have been made sick or killed.
There are some benefits for example say somebody has a heart problem but as a cure all by ignoring the terrain of the body and just chasing symptoms it has been a disaster.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
just google "big pharma ghost writing"
You will see how those trials were ghost written.
That is why I hope that your friends and loved ones learn about how mind body medicine can not only help sickness but learn about it as a preventative, because if they are apologists for the dishonest practises of big pharma or uncritically swallow that big pharma feeds them drugs because it loves them then they might not be so fortunate, i hope you always have good health extand for your own sake.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
December 1st I was diagnosed with AML. I spent 2.5 months in the hospital undergoing 3 rounds of heavy chemo. My biopsy Monday showed me to be free of any leukemia so I am in remission. It's a miracle!
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
Im happy for you, and it is good that you caught it early.
But you know they market drugs like they are marketing candy and they create new illnesses just to market drugs, in the usa they run commercials and encourage people to take drugs even if they are just feeling slightly down then that is marketed as depression and to take drugs, there have been many people who have had secondary sickness and died from drugs, it has its place but as a cure all it is a disaster.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
Not only does long term drug use screw up the ecology of the gut, it screws up the acid alkaline balance of the blood, it causes all different secondary sicknesses and side effects and that is when proper nutrition and natural approaches would have got the body into balance and without the disasterous effects of pumping the body full of drugs, pharma makes money by keeping people sick, treating the cause is not good business, creating secondary sickness and masking symptons is.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
I agree it would be good to disconnect health care from capitalism. Obama has tried to make headway but he's been blocked by who? Oh my lets try that again.
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
Obama.
You are not wet behind the ears to play the mainstream politcians love you game are you. You should know better.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
derailing the conversation ptbl? love game? stay on topic. universal health care or not? What say you?
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
Obama is doing deals with big pharma, look it up on google news.
Universal health care, Well if it is based on the british system then it is a disaster, btw we have a socialised system in the uk and that has not stopped them pushing drugs as the solution.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
I notice in the UK it has certainly helped the bogus homeopathic bullcrap to get foisted onto gullible patients. Pretty fucking sad.
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
well whether homeopathy helps or not is a longer debate, it could be placebo just like the high effects that have come to light in many drug trials, that is why the study of epigenetics is interesting.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
The thing is the Americans want to copy this model.
BTW Obama has been described as bush on steroids, you hated bush and love Obama.
Oh the irony.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
@ExtantFrodo
Why are you getting upset with Lipton? if his brain is operating him and he is not operating his brain then there is nothing to get upset about, oh but then you cannot help it because as you deny the existence of the self, as free will is an illusion then you cannot help with your reactions.
Do his views upset your determinism?
Of course every opinion you hold you would have to reject to be consistent but what can we do with somebody who is a deterministic machine eh.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
The ironic thing is that because of the disatrous way the health system is run that in the areas where drugs do help like cancer then the medicines are not accesible.
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
I mean why would they ghostwrite trials and publish fake journals if they were so great?
don't you think it is disgusting that they commercialise sickness and try to encourage people to take drugs when they do not need them?
it seems that you are not motivated by honesty in attacking lipton because you are an apologist for the dishonesty of the pharmaceutical companies this is what motivates you and your hypocrisy about lipton needs to be taken with a pinch of salt
ProudToBLoud 1 year ago
wow ptbl, now i'm an apologist for the pharmica. I said and I quote It would be good to disconnect capitalism from health care" How the fuck do you read that as giving a pat on the back to pharms? Yes lots of people have also not been saved by pharms, but we are still quite a ways from personalized medicine.
I think people should be INFORMED about their internal biochemistry and have the option to take control of it. I approve whatever leads to that. Lies from pharms nor lies from lipton help.
ExtantFrodo 1 year ago
Capitalism - priivate or state versions doesnt matter- is historically outdated its like a tight shoe on the feet of humanity, its painful dangerous and a brake on further progress for a truly harmonious reality based on cooperation for our common well being across the world for all generations to come.
arzoyan 2 years ago
Sad. Where did the membrane's protein's come from? Why the particular proteins that some given cell has? The nucleus provided the code for the manufacture of the membrane proteins. If the code for a particular antenna doesn't reside in the nucleus then the cell will not receive that signal AND THAT AFFECTS BEHAVIOR.
I repeat. This man is a moron.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
As to moran!! did you know that in 1491, the world was flat. by the year 1492 it suddenly turned into a sphere, WOW ISN'T SCIENCE WONDERFUL. ITS ALWAYS 100% RIGHT...... NOT
beggar101 2 years ago
So you didn't know that the greeks determined the earth to be a sphere circa 350 BCE?
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
Actually I did, they also had some very interesting medical practices that modern medicine doesn't accept as relevent in todays wonderful world of drugs and other so called "scientific" interferences in the natural processes of healing.
beggar101 2 years ago
That may well be. Then again maybe you just don't hang around the right medical circles. I've seen demonstrations of very sensible use of leeches and maggots such that I'd utilize them myself under similar circumstances.
ExtantFrodo 2 years ago
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ProudToBLoud 2 years ago
this guy is amazing
Wiggyify 2 years ago
mind over matter.ill say it again
jontronhaha 2 years ago
your brain is derived from your skin.
bettinakitty 2 years ago
i agree, anyone with basic university biology knows all this, he's just trying to make his ideas seem novel. he doesn't emphasize that the genes determine WHAT proteins you can make and thus HOW you can respond to stimuli. the nucleus is not the brain of the cell, because the cell has no brain just like an engine doesn't have a brain. his lecture style is used because he is trying to convince an audience with little scientific education. everything he says is taught in first year bio, take it
jerbol 2 years ago 4
anyone with basic university biology knows this?? have you watched all 7 parts so you have the complete picture? if you have you will know that this is not taught in Uni, it goes against nearly all thinking. Most people do not understand that their perception is the key to everything, most are victims of what they are born with. This is not common knowledge and if you understand what he is actually saying you would realize this..
presenceispower 2 years ago
Yep, totally agree with you. He is a smart guy, unfortunately due to his odd way of presenting the info, it may get highjacked by crazy pseudoscientists (which the internet is full of lol).
perydwyn 2 years ago
Okay, I should have watched more before I commented in the earlier parts of this video. He is actually quite clever, but not very good at presenting his info. He isnt saying anything new though, he is just dressing up old information in new language (some of which is unneccesarily emotive).
perydwyn 2 years ago
the dude loves his science! :P
Flydmonkey1234 2 years ago
fantastic scientist/ lecturer.
people dissing him are lame idiots.
lobotomizedman 2 years ago 5
*****My Eye Preceptors Don't Like The Lack of Quality of This Video! ********
23HappyApples 2 years ago
That's 'receptor'.
perydwyn 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
He's on LSD, or what?
przedmonitorem 2 years ago
Did you know LSD is pretty good?
kurogogyou 2 years ago
it's danger poison !!
przedmonitorem 2 years ago
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przedmonitorem 2 years ago
He's good. Very good.
Monsterenergy791 3 years ago 7
I am glad this new science is be presented. What a blessing to the world.Thank you Dr. Lipton
gwendolyn1100 3 years ago 9
someone here seems to be on speed
maxxsee 3 years ago
Excitement, passion, awakening to new possibilities, re-writing medicine as it is know - he is high on life.
Brilliant work Bruce.
blessings always and in all ways
streamofwellbeing 3 years ago 6
This is a very exciting knowledge! Thank You for posting this vid!
franki024 3 years ago 5
great way of breaking it down.
mlystew 3 years ago
Dr. Lipton your work is excellent. I'm a student at Bermuda College and my lecture Dr. Tracy Harney has our cellular class 2210 reading your book "The Biology of Belief's". Thank God for your book, without it cellular biology would be more difficult to grasp.
psychologicalpoet 4 years ago
New science? Its just called science its always adapting.
Zoidborg1 4 years ago 3
Big BL is great. The only other person whom shows that much excitement is Cookie Monster. To be honest if the Cookie Monster was giving the talk, but using analogies of cookies in relation to cells, I think it might be better. Just a suggestion. COOKIIIEIEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! NOM-NOM-OM-OMM-OM-MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
OldSmellyCrotch 4 years ago
i love this guy! he didnt die off .. very exciting and interesting
teddyterrorist 4 years ago
I don't get it
montezumasrevenge 4 years ago
you're only on part 3, keep going.
00zeronian 4 years ago
Great presentation! The content of this series on (cellular) Perception, 1-7, is the new model for biology at the level of full consciousness and self determination and invites itself to be included in all anatomy and physiology programs. You are an inspiration, Dr. Lipton.
elliesbells 4 years ago
Fantastic! What an enthusiastic teacher who gets the idea across in a fun and simple way. Keep with it Dr Lipton!!!
lysergicwindow 4 years ago