@SgtSoot Your original question was "How was the invasion of Afghanistan illegal?" You clearly don't like the answer, but nothing you say here calls that answer into question. As a matter of fact, the invasion was illegal, both according to intern'l law & domestic law, as I explained. Maybe your dislike of these facts indicates that you are in favor of lawlessness. Terrorists are in favor of lawlessness too.
@yrrmom Beyond that, the Taliban was charged with harboring the terrorist organization responible for the deaths of almost 3,000 innocent Americans. How does your ideological foundation of moral relativism hold up to that fact? Believe me, I know that facts. But you clearly don't. Every state in the worl has the right to defend it's own citizens! Al Qaeda's funding has benn virtually cut off, and most of it's leaders have been either killed or captured. Invading was the right decision.
@SgtSoot I have no idea what you mean by my "ideological foundation of moral relativism". I have referred only to concrete, indisputable facts: The US unilaterally invaded Afghanistan without Security Council authorization. Such agression is in violation of the UN Charter; it clearly prohibits such action. The invasion wan't "self-defense" because it occurred *after* the attack in question was over. The Charter doesn't authorized preemptive or preventive attack. The Charter is a ratified treaty.
....and the minute you send in the F-16's, the Chinese dump the dollar. China gets 15% of its oil supply from Iran, so yeah, go right ahead and send in the f-16's. Hope you Americans look forward to $8-10 for a gallon of gasoline.
This mirrors the state of America -- live right, work hard, pay your taxes....and you're punished -- lose your job, pay more taxes, and be called names by the government if you ask questions -- IRAN has done everything right but we still want to cause them issues -- this is a distraction....America is co-dependent looking everywhere but where they should be looking --- being healthy needs to start at home. I feel this is going to esclate and it's sad. I'm sorry Iran....
@smartpeeple America is a corporate oligarchy that doesn't give a shit about its own citizen, only about those who are rich and/or well connected to the powers that be.
well like every sigle time,the imperialist country is the one hate the whole world!!! just thinking of all the lies in every war is made to get more money!!! the evil USA
I hope one day unated states pay all the things one way or n other,god or humans one day the world will get together n make u pay americans!! no reason to kill just for the rich ppl,this country is rich because all the stolen land n properties of others. see how many ppl dies n americans wants to be the leader of the worldno
Tehrans nuclear concessions to Obama look like a trade between Obama and Iran in favour of Israel. In exchange, USA will look away and keeps silent about all human rights abuses and lack of democracy in Iran. The regime will do anything to prolong its life .
Ritter never claims or suggests that Iran loves Israel, if that's your point. All he said was: "Iran is not an agressor; Iran has not attacked anybody." The same of course can't be said of Israel or the US, which are both currently engaged in aggressive wars which they began with illegal invasions. Even if your neighbor hates you, that doesn't make it right (or even prudent) for you to bomb his house "pre-emptively".
@yrrmom How was the invasion of Afghanistan illegal? At the time of the invasion, Afghanistan was virtually controlled by the Taliban, which was harboring Al Qaeda (and continues to do so today). The invasion of Afghanistan was never deemed illegal by the UN. And every intelligence agency on the planet came to the conclusion that Iraq possessed WMD's. If you can name one other that came to a different conclusion, I'd be glad to hear it.
@SgtSoot The invasion of Afghanistan violated the UN Charter which is "the supreme Law of the Land" under the US Constitution (art6 sec2). The Charter prohibits "threat or use of force" except by authorization of the Security Council or in "self-defense if an armed attack occurs". The invasion wasn't authorized by the Security Council. It wasn't in "self-defense" because the armed attack was over. Some defend the invasion in terms of "preventing" more attacks; but the Charter doesn't allow that.
@yrrmom Right.... we should wait for the approval of the UN Security Council when it comes to upholding the security of US citizens. I mean, just look at what the UN has done for world security since the 1950's. You're out of your mind. And if the invasion of Afghanistan was illegal, why hasn't the UN condemned it? The armed attack was over? So I guess Al-Qaeda wasn't plotting more attacks on US soil post 9/11. They just figured they'd kill thousands of Americans, and then retire.
@SgtSoot Your original question was "How was the invasion of Afghanistan illegal?" You clearly don't like the answer, but nothing you say here calls that answer into question. As a matter of fact, the invasion was illegal, both according to intern'l law & domestic law, as I explained. Maybe your dislike of these facts indicates that you are in favor of lawlessness. Terrorists are in favor of lawlessness too.
yrrmom 1 year ago
@yrrmom Beyond that, the Taliban was charged with harboring the terrorist organization responible for the deaths of almost 3,000 innocent Americans. How does your ideological foundation of moral relativism hold up to that fact? Believe me, I know that facts. But you clearly don't. Every state in the worl has the right to defend it's own citizens! Al Qaeda's funding has benn virtually cut off, and most of it's leaders have been either killed or captured. Invading was the right decision.
SgtSoot 1 year ago
@SgtSoot I have no idea what you mean by my "ideological foundation of moral relativism". I have referred only to concrete, indisputable facts: The US unilaterally invaded Afghanistan without Security Council authorization. Such agression is in violation of the UN Charter; it clearly prohibits such action. The invasion wan't "self-defense" because it occurred *after* the attack in question was over. The Charter doesn't authorized preemptive or preventive attack. The Charter is a ratified treaty.
yrrmom 1 year ago
....and the minute you send in the F-16's, the Chinese dump the dollar. China gets 15% of its oil supply from Iran, so yeah, go right ahead and send in the f-16's. Hope you Americans look forward to $8-10 for a gallon of gasoline.
KingDrudge 2 years ago
This mirrors the state of America -- live right, work hard, pay your taxes....and you're punished -- lose your job, pay more taxes, and be called names by the government if you ask questions -- IRAN has done everything right but we still want to cause them issues -- this is a distraction....America is co-dependent looking everywhere but where they should be looking --- being healthy needs to start at home. I feel this is going to esclate and it's sad. I'm sorry Iran....
smartpeeple 2 years ago 12
@smartpeeple America is a corporate oligarchy that doesn't give a shit about its own citizen, only about those who are rich and/or well connected to the powers that be.
Antiks72 2 years ago
well like every sigle time,the imperialist country is the one hate the whole world!!! just thinking of all the lies in every war is made to get more money!!! the evil USA
I hope one day unated states pay all the things one way or n other,god or humans one day the world will get together n make u pay americans!! no reason to kill just for the rich ppl,this country is rich because all the stolen land n properties of others. see how many ppl dies n americans wants to be the leader of the worldno
maxrod77 2 years ago
Iran has no nukes!
hamid954 2 years ago 2
Tehrans nuclear concessions to Obama look like a trade between Obama and Iran in favour of Israel. In exchange, USA will look away and keeps silent about all human rights abuses and lack of democracy in Iran. The regime will do anything to prolong its life .
EspahbodSurna 2 years ago
Ritter never claims or suggests that Iran loves Israel, if that's your point. All he said was: "Iran is not an agressor; Iran has not attacked anybody." The same of course can't be said of Israel or the US, which are both currently engaged in aggressive wars which they began with illegal invasions. Even if your neighbor hates you, that doesn't make it right (or even prudent) for you to bomb his house "pre-emptively".
yrrmom 2 years ago 7
@yrrmom How was the invasion of Afghanistan illegal? At the time of the invasion, Afghanistan was virtually controlled by the Taliban, which was harboring Al Qaeda (and continues to do so today). The invasion of Afghanistan was never deemed illegal by the UN. And every intelligence agency on the planet came to the conclusion that Iraq possessed WMD's. If you can name one other that came to a different conclusion, I'd be glad to hear it.
SgtSoot 1 year ago
@SgtSoot The invasion of Afghanistan violated the UN Charter which is "the supreme Law of the Land" under the US Constitution (art6 sec2). The Charter prohibits "threat or use of force" except by authorization of the Security Council or in "self-defense if an armed attack occurs". The invasion wasn't authorized by the Security Council. It wasn't in "self-defense" because the armed attack was over. Some defend the invasion in terms of "preventing" more attacks; but the Charter doesn't allow that.
yrrmom 1 year ago 4
@yrrmom Right.... we should wait for the approval of the UN Security Council when it comes to upholding the security of US citizens. I mean, just look at what the UN has done for world security since the 1950's. You're out of your mind. And if the invasion of Afghanistan was illegal, why hasn't the UN condemned it? The armed attack was over? So I guess Al-Qaeda wasn't plotting more attacks on US soil post 9/11. They just figured they'd kill thousands of Americans, and then retire.
SgtSoot 1 year ago
Bravo
Revelutioner 2 years ago 4
Corporate media owned by zinonist states are building up another war.
Wake up US...take back what you OWN before its too late.
secrethero303 2 years ago 10