Haggard Fallout: Falwell Interview

[Radioguy54]

It is said that mortally wounded animals often bite at their own wounds, looks like the case here. Fall well & Haggard: two sides of the same counterfeit coin. They ought to knock the bottom out of hell for both these hate-mongering, charlatanistic shitbags

[CounterCultureLives]

@Radioguy54 At least Haggard has learned from his mistakes. As for Rev. Fatwell?? I thought that Christians believe that Gluttony was one of "the Seven Deadlies"; guess Fatwell took a pass on that one!!

[MPedroful]

Falwell: I don't really know him, but i know he's against me." The con never ends with these guys!

[C0mm0nS3ns3]

evangelical = bat shit crazy

[babymicrobe]

Don't worry, he's dead. :)

[atheistfromaustria]

@babymicrobe Sometimes even atheists thank god!

[zakwilks]

falwell fucked his mother up her asshole

[iiwatcher]

Faggard & Fatwell. The epitome of religious shysterism & hypocrisy. Religion is a cancer & religious people are pathological. I for one, will never respect either.

[breda83]

liar

[cobrompton]

What the FUCK is wrong with these people???

[breda83]

Religion is a virus and a pox on humanity

[TheRetardedSheep]

@breda83 well said.

[chipmunktubetop]

Tax churches. If they want to lobby, they get to pay for this stupid war.

[billbrodburger]

Put all Evangelicals into Concentration Camps and put them into the OVENS!!!!!

[bulmerchamp]

yay:)

[edinburghskeptics]

I, and dont attack, feel sorry for Haggard. He is a gay man wo has been forced through indoctrination to become a follower of the Jewish Zombie- as have most believers. he has a lifestyle that contradicts his misguided religion. that must be a hard thing to accept. Haggard is still a cock, but, he has done something few religious followers do.... prooven himself to be human.

[YouDickwod]

@edinburghskeptics no. he's a fraud. who lies for money. you're too gullible.

don't feel sorry for such a sociopath.

[qwer4o]

Thank the FSM this fuck is dead! :)

[1973MaseratiBora]

Jerry Falwell's death was really the only time I've ever been stoked for what is usually a tragic event.

What a terrible, hateful person he was.

[NearingZero]

Make sure you read the comments mark Spam

[NearingZero]

Goes to show you how many fools are giving them money, by how rich they are. Lots of fools with lots of money.

[Romani1969]

Religion should be like sex with your lover, you keep it for yourself and do go out telling everyone. By the way Falwell, I am glad you dropped dead.

[Goetia78]

The Bushes are "dedicated Christians"? Makes me wonder if Falwell went to Bohemian Grove too. I'm ashamed to be from an area sandwiched between Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.

[sharonkay15]

i feel the same way

[jhnsnsc1]

Then move!

[Verbatimofo]

bunch of chickenhawks.

[trent8002003]

Translation of what Jerry Falwell said in I am-a-nice-guy speak : glad to see Ted Haggard deep frying in hot corn oil. The guy stepped on James Dobson's big toe and mine. Adios, Ted. Have fun unemployed!

[Outlaw1257]

Falwell is dead; Good Riddance to bad rubbish!!

[paulbadenhorst]

Ha ha! The leaders of the institutional Christian church... always deserting their own cripple and wounded in time of need... always smug and confident in their self-righteous arrogance... always irrelevant to the crucial Global issues that demand our sincere attention. They deserve to be scourned! p

[ZachValkyrie]

Amen to that, brother!

[LeBoots]

He says Foley's scandal was miniscule compared to Clinton's. Yeah, sure, only in press coverage. Foley is a pedophile, his scandal was with a minor. Clinton was just unfaithful (with a consenting adult). Evangelical moron....

[emonticel]

He's probably having gay sex right now as we speak as he has always wanted.

[stevebritgimp]

I love the way he says politics is local, and then he supports the situation in Iraq. Ditto with 'sanctity of life' and so on. Also he's a bible-basher, but dismisses a particular book as 'fiction'. For a constitional republic the US certainly isn't shy about its fixers parading themselves.

[FA8T]

"Give Fallwell an enema and you could burry him in a match box"

Christopher Hitchens

[ivan7526]

Thank God you are no more!!!! Winky slimy hypocrite

[odomaniac]

he oposesed violence and supported war... an example a how stupid and average american can be :p ...my sympathies

[iden123]

May all the tax funded holy hate tv networks Go with the bushes, haggard-staggart rubbers, tammy fayes make-up, jesse's afro-payback, an haliburton IED's

[generatrix999]

Developing Story: Jerry Falwells soul being denied entry into hell. The word is Charon wouldn't let Jerry on the ferry. Hermes claims Falwell's obol was not in his mouth, but in his ass, he had eaten it. Herems also quoted Satan as saying he didn't want that fat fuck in Hades. Falwell now left to wander on the banks of the river Styx till he loses some weight.

[saadasim]

Republicans should not talk about "Moral Purity."

[klaatu01]

hey billy, grow up....

[britoca]

BURN IN HELL FAT FUCK!

[klaatu01]

we can only hope pat robertson joins him soon.....please...that would be a good christmas for me...maybe haggard will go too..wow lets clean house

[billypinct]

go fuck yourselff,maybe Hilary will  drop dead....if only!

[sangwichfan]

Good riddance, I'm glad he's dead! Pat Robertson, PLEASE join him soon!

[billypinct]

YOUR A SICK FUCK,GO FUCK YOUR MOM

[sangwichfan]

I'd love to, but your mom wore me out! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

[billypinct]

i'd fuck your mom but im spent on your dads asshole!

[sangwichfan]

I'd make a joke about your dad, but I have nothing against truck drivers looking for a good time with a $5 hooker.

[billypinct]

ok lets disperse with the juvenile taunts and agree,your a liberal,asshole douchebag!

[sangwichfan]

Fair enough. And you're a conservative shitstain fuckhead!

[billypinct]

lmao....I think we'd make a kickass sitcom!!

[wntoply6]

yeah, billy, and it's your hateful christian who's ass would be kicked.

[billypinct]

how about I just kick yours,nazi fuck!

[wntoply6]

well billy, come on and try, you two bit christian lying, bigoted, asshole.

[billypinct]

great just tell me where!

[wntoply6]

and bring robertson, dobson and haggard with you, more two bit money oriented lying bigoted, ignorant christians. it's about time good americans kick your butts...and right out of OUR country.

[billypinct]

dont hate because he calls fags like you the sick fucks that you are,nice post but no location,why,pussy??

[wntoply6]

keep talking you bigot. i wonder why chistians have more of a capacity to hate than non christians. and billy, you're a prime example of why christians are lying bigoted nut cases.

[billypinct]

first off dumbfuck,you started with me,and I hate?? second you give no argument,just rhetoric,so put up or shut up,give examples,facts about jerry falwell,or shut up,you whiny,sniveling liberal pussbag!

[wntoply6]

sorry billy, your language & reasoning supports the argument that you're the "dumbfuck". i feel no compulsion to give a "dumbfuck" reasons (the correct word there bud). but you didn't answer the question, when can i help you come out of the closet?

[billypinct]

I thought so! now just stfu!! loser!

[wntoply6]

well billy, it was great to have a chance to talk with a real christian bigot. we ain't many o' your kind up here in the north, thank god (our god, not yours).

[billypinct]

your up north,too!we should get together and play bocci!! still no substance to your accusations I see,so fuck off and have a shitty life,oh wait,your gay,so a shitty life is a good thing!

[wntoply6]

you're right billy, i don't know why you're fighting your homosexuality, and haven't given me anything to go on. tell me more about why you're in the closet, then i can give you some substance.

[billypinct]

a guys cock in my ass doesnt sound fun to me,your the one with the"PHD"what in,there spindoctor??

[wntoply6]

aw come one billy, noone says all gays like it in the ass, but give it time, you'll come to love it. seems your preacher has been givin it up your ass for 35 years now. why else would you believe his "shit". certainly anyone with a working brain wouldn't.

[billypinct]

ok,first off I assume your atheist,am I right? second dont try to recruit here,because theres nothing sexy about another dudes sweaty,hairy ass!im up to what,5 arguments and youve given me nothing but false accusations and name calling....proud liberal,are ya??

[wntoply6]

oh, but you're part of my gay agenda. i gotta meet my quota, & we prey on guys who say they hate fags, cause 9 out of 10 times they're closeted & hate themselves. name calling, now what closeted gay here, called me a faggot? btw i probably believe in god more than you do.

[wntoply6]

and am i a proud liberal...you bet your gay white ass i am very proud of being a liberal! what with the last 14 years of republicans in congress & 7 years in the whitehouse, you stupid bigoted christians from the south should be ashamed. but since you're not ashamed of your hate & bigotry, why would you be ashamed of the ultracons in d.c?

[billypinct]

omg....I know YOU,your names Kent right??

[billypinct]

tell the truth,you HATE traditional families,all gays do! like my comments here you should see what I posted about Fred Phelps!go ahead look them up!

[wntoply6]

yeah, you remember me, you bought meth from me & we got hi together. then we had butt munching sex. you couldn't get enough! you gotta stop asking for more. your wife won't like it billy.

[billypinct]

is your name Kent?

[wntoply6]

billy you can't contact me here. i told you no more sex with you until you tell your wife and you get a divorce.

[billypinct]

PUSSY!!

[wntoply6]

hmm, tell me why the hatred for gays billy? is ti because you have personal issues with homosexuality. are you a christian closeted gay, and you're having trouble coming to terms with it? let me know my friend, i can help you come out of the closet.

[wntoply6]

well, billyinct, what kind of comments do you expect on this bigot's death. did you want a state funeral for that ignorant, fat, liar? come on now billy, the guy is in hell right now...pleading with you to "come on down", and i suggest you go!

[smoothALOE]

So I guess these naive evangelists expected a politician to keep his word.

[jsphotos]

Remember that John McCain has recently been kssing up to Falwell. Anyonen who wants to see sanity in government will NOT vote for McCain if he wins the Repo nomination in 2008. We need to get religions OUT of politics. Evangelicals shuold read David Kuo's book. Falwell is a hypocritical liar who has cause MANY people harm. If anyone needs forgiveness, it's him.

[wntoply6]

there is just one word for all the christian right nuts: LIARS (oops, did i say that about christians? sorry the truth hurts don't it)

[edwardsmmrs]

Shut Up, Falwell!!! Jackass

[Paahau]

What a bloated toad. NOt Republican but he's out there getting the vote for the GOP. Liar, but who's going to call him on it? The christians? No way. Who would Jesus bomb?

[wntoply6]

well, my friend...guess jesus just called that bloated toad on his lies. then he sent him down, down, down.

[athena315]

Geez, I was with the Rev until he downplayed that pedo Foley. Clinton/Lewinsky has no place here. We are talking about the safety of children. Come on Rev

[athena315]

I'm just floored and it's so depresing. I converted to being a Republican because I thought this was the party of morals, wow. I don't know what to think:(

[afreston]

now thats how you cut and run by avoid saying you know Haggard

[johnlorican]

As an evangelical Christian myself, it's not like you have many options. The Republican have disappointed me to some extent - but the answer is not to 'stay home' or vote for the opposition party which has a platform that is anathema to my spiritual or political perspective. I'll never - I mean NEVER - vote for a pro-choice candidate - and that's part and parcel of the Democratic Party.

[creationmachine]

The abortion rate dropped during Clinton's administration and after Bush Jr. took office abortion started to rise again (see CDC). You're always going to have to deal with abortion. It's part of the human condition. And according to the US laws, a woman's "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" come before an unborn child. Pregnancy and abortion prevention along with removing the social stigma of unwed mothers is the key to minimizing the abortion rate. Look at the numbers...not the lies.

[johnlorican]

As long as Roe vs. Wade is enshrined law, abortions will be sky high, as they've been since that decision went into effect in 1973. The Constitutional idea that a woman's 'life, liberty...happiness' is twisted into being the rationale for the selfish destruction of unborn human life at ANY stage is absurd. Of course, abortion will be with us always - so will theft, rape, murder, child molestation, etc. - but none of those things HAVE to be legal.

[creationmachine]

The abortion rate dropped during Clinton's administration and after Bush Jr. took office abortion started to rise again. You're always going to have to deal with abortion. It's part of the human condition. And according to the US laws, a woman's "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" come before an unborn child. Pregnancy and abortion prevention along with removing the social stigma of unwed mothers is the key to minimizing the abortion rate. Look at the numbers...not the lies.

[maelstrom52]

That's truly unfortunate because there are so many other issues that are more important than abortion. I'm "pro-choice," but I would vote for a "pro-life" candidate who was better for the nation. See, abortion isn't a political issue, it's a social issue. Politicians shouldn't even be discussing it, it should be left up to local governments.

[johnlorican]

Abortion is indeed a social (or moral) issue. Although there are other important issues, I think this one goes to the most basic tenet of the right to exist (a la 'right to life'), which trumps all other issues. The Democrats, who claim to represent the 'poor and working families' have neglected the most defenseless with their positions in this regard.

[maelstrom52]

Whether or not abortion is a "right to life" issue is still up for debate. No country ever fell apart because of "abortion issues." It is a total non-sequitar used by politicians to appease people's sentimental disposition. It has no place in the political arena. Whereas, things like corporate "pork spending" and international diplomacy are much more vital to a country's survival.

[johnlorican]

I don't think a country's survival is related to 'pork spending,' although we're all disgusted by it. A country's survival is connected to it's moral will. If people choose to routinely murder their unborn (and that's the kindest word I can come up with and be accurate about that procedure), then we're exhausting ourselves morally.

[maelstrom52]

I don't disagree with you that it's imperative to take a moral "high ground," but I don't think that being "pro-choice" is necessarily being immoral. There's a lot of "moral relativity" in this country, which stems primarily out of the divide between the religious and non-religious sects. But there is nothing "relative" about the pure unbridled immoral hypocrisy, from the likes of people such as Ted Haggard.

[johnlorican]

You're right in that Pastor Haggard was hypocritical. One of the things I find interesting about YouTube is that people are ALL OVER Ted Haggard because he didn't 'practice what he preached' - but they don't want to 'judge' the behavior - just his hypocrisy. Conversely, the man who shared in his 'activities' was a homosexual prostitute who uses and deals in illegal drugs. He, apparently, gets a 'free pass' because he wasn't a 'hypocrite.'

[maelstrom52]

He most definately is being held accountable for his actions, but in all fairness soliciting a prostitute and drug-use aren't exactly high crimes. The hypocrisy is a more crucial issue. Ted Haggard is known for vehemently criticizing homosexuals. He is considered a voice for Christianity for millions. But now it comes to light that he is just a self-hating closet homosexual. Christians feel betrayed and the rest of us feel justified in our stark opposition to his beliefs.

[maelstrom52]

As for the man who came forth and outted Haggard, he doesn't necessarily get a free pass, it's just that no one cares about him. Look, people accept the fact that there are prostitutes in this country; they're not happy about it, but they accept it. What they won't accept is that someone who stands for high moral standards would be so dishonest. Is Haggard a victim because of his position? Yeah, probably, but he put himself in that position.

[johnlorican]

The media, and seemingly everybody else, HAS given Mike Jones a free pass. Have you heard, or read, any negative commentary on this person? Ironically, our moral relative culture doesn't want to dare 'pass judgement' on the behavior and lifestyle of Mike Jones - or even Ted Haggard, for that matter. What they WILL pass judgement on (and make judgements all day long) is hypocrisy. Apparently, THAT'S the sin - and the ONLY sin - from this entire story...interesting.

[johnlorican]

Most of the fellow Christians I know had never heard of the guy until two weeks ago - including myself. Haggard was/is not a 'hater' of homosexuals; I can guarantee you there were/are homosexuals in his church. He simply upheld orthodox Christian teaching on homosexuality (that it is sinful) which is why he spoke out against same-sex marriage - a completely different issue than just homosexuality.

[maelstrom52]

I'm sorry, but saying that homosexuality is sinful is a hateful thing to say, whether it be intentional or not. It's like saying, "You're a bad person, but I tolerate you." It's obnoxious and it's what gives Christians a bad name. The concept of Christianity is a beautiful one, but today people like Jerry Falwell and Ted Haggard have subverted it into a group of self-righteous morality police.

[johnlorican]

If I said 'child molestation is sinful,' would that also be considered a 'hateful thing to say?' How about 'wife beating is sinful?' Because you don't agree with a specific practice (that has clear biblical underpinnings against it), doesn't make it 'hateful.' Haggard lovingly ministered to homosexuals within his church, as all pastors should. Ironically, if you really want to read some 'hate speech,' just run through the YouTube threads and read what people write about Haggard - sheesh!

[maelstrom52]

Dude!  Beating your wife and molesting children aren't sinful; they're pure evil! Are you actually suggesting that homosexuals should be held to the same standard as wife-beaters and pedophiles!? No offense, but maybe comparing homosexuals to pedophiles is one of the reasons the "Christian Right" is accused of anti-gay rhetoric.

[johnlorican]

All I'm saying is that there is nothing 'hateful' about disapproving of homosexuality and, scripturally speaking, it IS considered sinful - you can choose to accept that or not. As I mentioned earlier, the real 'Anti-rhetoric' can be found in the YouTube threads on Haggards containing some of the most hateful stuff one can come up with - typical of most of the discourse one can find on this website.

[maelstrom52]

Haggard deserves a fair amount of criticism. He held himself and his congregation up to a higher standard than everyone else. People like Haggard hide behind a veil of "decency," and they think that makes them untouchable. So they think they can say whatever they want about anyone else, and it's fine because they have the "moral high ground." Well, people are getting sick and tired of listening to them. That's what this is about.

[johnlorican]

Haggard didn't 'hold himself and his congregation up to a higher standard than everyone else' or 'hide behind a veil of decency.' Like all Christians, he's a sinner forgiven by God trying to live a life in line with scriptural principles through God's power and, like all Christians, failed to a certain extent. You can scorn him...or you can pray for him and his family - take your pick.

[maelstrom52]

I disagree. When you say that your particular brand of Christianity is the one true path and that everyone else is wrong, you are holding yourself to a higher standard. I'm not the one who should scorn him, and to be perfectly frank, it doesn't bother me in the slightest if he is gay and using crystal meth. What bothers me, is that he tells other people that it's wrong and that they'll go to hell for doing it. And this person has influence on people like George Bush...that is scary.

[johnlorican]

It has nothing to do with a 'particular brand;' it has everything to do with what scripture communicates over and over again. Quite frankly, Haggard (or me)have nothing to do with it. Haggard was simply informing his congregation what the Bible communicates, as any orthodox Christian pastor would. I think your issue is with the Bible. Right now, Nancy Pelosi might have influence on George Bush....now, THAT'S scary!!

[maelstrom52]

I don't have a problem with the Bible; just the way certain people interpret it. Yes, there are parts where it discourages homosexuality, but the overall message is one of love and peace. Living in peace with one another is more important than forbidding gay marriage. If it takes gay people getting married to create a peaceful existence, isn't it worth it? God would understand, and if he doesn't, then he's no God of mine.

[johnlorican]

The overall message of the Bible is God trying to bring men and women to Him, through the history of the nation of Israel in the Old Testament and the birth, life and resurrection of Jesus Christ in the New Testament. Sure, Christians are to love God, one another and trust in Christ - but the Bible is soaked in stories about faith, war, murder, sin, etc. - very little about 'peace,' per say. The peace is the by product of a life conformed to the will of Christ.

[maelstrom52]

I'm guessing you've never been to a Catholic service...hehe. Look, I'm agnostic, but that doesn't mean I'm ignorant of religion. Here's where we differ: you think "peace" is a by-product of living by the tennets of the Bible.  I think living peacefully takes precedence over what any doctrine proclaims. If living in peace defies one portion of the Bible, then so be it.

[johnlorican]

I know 'peace' is knowing Jesus. I've experienced Him, so I'll believe that until the day I die. When my life is lined up with the commands of Christ, then, yes, I have peace and I translate that peace into my relationships with others. Many of Jesus' commands are hard - and I violate them, as all Christians do. But living peacefully with, say, homosexuals, doesn't mean I should accept the behavior or vote for same-sex marriage.

[maelstrom52]

Yes it does. Unless you accept that homosexuals are people like you or I, your "peace" is a fraudulent enterprise. How can you be at peace with someone if you denigrate them? You claim it's their lifestyle that you disapprove of, but it's their lifestyle that defines them as people. You wouldn't like it if I said you could be Christian, but not pray, would you?

[johnlorican]

I guess we'll have to respectfully disagree. I accept obese people, but don't accept gluttony. I accept gamblers, but don't accept gambling. I accept thieves, but I don't accept stealing. I accept prostitutes, but I don't accept prostitution. I accept adulterers, but I don't accept adultery...and on and on. I can accept the person, but disagree with the behavior - it's really quite simple.

[maelstrom52]

I hear what you're saying, however, I don't accept thieves and prostitutes, but that's because I believe it's what we do that defines us. Truth be told, I think this has been an interesting debate. I guess we'll have to wait for the next socio-political fiasco to covnerse again...LOL!

[johnlorican]

I appreciated the debate - and you - as well. So much of YouTube comments are offensive, sarcastic jibes; sadly, they rarely seem to be thoughtful discourse. You indicated that you are an agnostic. I would have called myself an agnostic the first eighteen years of my life. I found a tract about Christ on a toilet roll(!) in a college bathroom in 1979 and chose to accept Him - life has never been quite the same since. God bless you and take care, John

[pffft63]

Evangelical huh? does that mean you learned Greek and research all the early christian writings? i didn't think so. that would be a real christian to me. someone who showed an interest in their own faith. evangelicals can't figure it out on their own. but their coach buses to heaven have bathrooms. does the bible SAY anyone goes to HEAVEN? no. tell your kids

[johnlorican]

Well, pffft63, Jesus spoke often of the kingdom of heaven. He told His disciples, He was going there to prepare a place for them (John 14:3) and that this would be a place of happiness and everlasting reward (Matthew 6: 19-20). I hope you're there!

[CoynLA]

The infidel Falwell, "barely" knows Haggard reminds me of Bush, "barely" knowing Ken Lay (the largest single contributor to his 2000 Presidential campaign) or once again Bush "barely" knowing Jack Abramoff who had over 400 contacts with the Bush White House. Hopefully the 'evangelicals' are correct about one thing, there is a Hell, and human filth like Bush, Falwell, Haggard and their counterparts can spend eternity roasting.

[johnlorican]

'...and human filth like Bush, Falwell, Haggard and their counterparts can spend eternity roasting.'

I admire Bush and Falwell; I had never heard of Haggard until last week. Falwell bravely stood up in 1980 and spearheaded a conservative movement that is still with us today. George Bush has kept the terrorists at bay. Both men have been strong leaders within their respective disciplines.

[CoynLA]

Please know that my comments in no way are meant to denigrate you personally or your beliefs. Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, James Dobson and others continue to be agents of intolerance, words are hurtful and in most cases their words do not reflect the teachings of Jesus Christ. Once again, I did not intend to offend or belittle true believers, including but not limited to yourself.

[johnlorican]

Do you think labeling people, whom you might disagree with, 'human filth' coincide with the teachings of Jesus?

[CoynLA]

I am far from being as virtuous as Jesus, but I do know that the Scriptures warned us against false prophets using the Word of God and His name to promote hate and dischord...and warned in very strong terms. It it not a matter of me "disagreeing" it is using the Bible to promote hate and intolernace and mistruths. Finally 25 years on....true Christians are realizing that it is not about Lear jets and mansions and endless hatred, thus the results delivered 11/7/2006.

[johnlorican]

Respectfully, if I'm using terminology like 'human filth' to describe people, I would concentrate on my own heart with regards to promoting 'hate.'

The results of 11/7/06 had very little to do with 'Lear jets and mansions and endless hatred.'

[CoynLA]

Politics and religion should never be argued, it is a circular discussion that will go nowhere. 'Human filth' is over the top and exercising poor choice of wording. However I stand by my beliefs that false prophets have emerged that do a disserive to the Christian and in particular to the Evangelical community.

[johnlorican]

I think politics and religion SHOULD be argued (I prefer the term 'discussed'). Both represent 'worldviews' and his or her foundation on how she views the world. For instance, I've listened to 'Focus On The Family' hosted by Dr. James Dobson and admire him greatly. I know his heart and he's a great leader; you labeled him 'human filth' and a 'false prophet.' I'm personally curious as to why.

[CoynLA]

I am curious as to how you can 'know' the heart of Dobson? The reason I say politics and religion cannot be 'discussed', is that chances are no opposing ponts of view will be entertained by either side.

Dobson spreads hate and enjoys a tax free existence in which to do so. Our Nation needs to be unified, not divided, by an 'agent of intolerance', as Sen John McCain so aptly describes some American "religous" television personalities.

[johnlorican]

You can 'know' the heart of Dobson based upon his words and, more importantly, his actions of the past 30+ years. Apparently, you've made a judgement on him indicating that he 'spreads hate.' I'd be interested in your proof of this and by what definition you call 'hate.'

[CoynLA]

Were it possible for man to know the heart of another man, the Rev. Ted Haggard's charade would have been known by his followers. Your pollyannish view of Dobson is certainly your perogative. I have made my judgement on Dobson based on his own words, his anti-gay rhetoric and his threats to the Bush Regime to withdraw support should they not promote an even stronger anti-gay agenda (www.slate.com.) I see this as hate.

[johnlorican]

James Dobson is not 'anti-gay.' He simply doesn't support homosexual sexual behavior, like most orthodox Christians. 'Focus On The Family' has one of the most successful compassionate ministries to homosexuals in the country (www.lovewonout.com). Of course, secularists (like those who write for Slate) and some of the more militant homosexuals vehemently oppose it and radically mischaracterize it. Now, if you want to discuss real 'hate,' read some of that material (!)

[CoynLA]

The Focus on the Family cult uses its tax exemption status to further its anti-woman, anti-gay agenda. Dobson has not fooled many of us who very clearly see an evil bigot whose real motivation remain greed & hatred. I would find it enlighting for you to cite Scriptures spoken by Christ that support Dobsons abhorrence of fellow human beings.

[johnlorican]

'human filth,''spend eternity roasting,''evil bigot,''abhorrence of fellow human beings,''spreads hate,''agent of intolerance,''anti-woman, anti-gay'...

Hopefully, CoynLA, someday we'll all get to be as loving and as tolerant as you....

[wntoply6]

aw johnlorican, i'll say it, you're just another of those human filthy so called religious asses like bush, falwell, haggard, dobson and robertson. you're all ignorant bigoted, hateful liars. there i said the truth. is that clear enough for you to get through your thick head? a rose by any other name is still a rose...bud!

[johnlorican]

Another wonderful statement of 'tolerance' for all to enjoy...

[wntoply6]

hey johnlorican, when you know and practice tolerance, let us all know. you're the biggest bigot on youtube and almost the most ignorant, but there are a few others who beat you out there.

[eaxegy]

LYNCHBURG, Va. (AP) — A Liberty University student arrested after homemade explosive devices were found in the trunk of his car was planning to be among thousands attending the funeral of the Rev. Jerry Falwell, Campbell County authorities said.

... aww he just wanted to send Jerry off to hell with a few fireworks!

[madmandrils05]

And that is his fault how?? There are plots every year to assassinate the presidents. I go to Liberty and there are very few people there that hate him, think before you say something stupid, thius guy was greater than you will ever be.

[DelBeano]

Yeah, and seeing as how Liberty is a tier-4 school, that doesn't surprise me one bit.

[dsmitty1st]

lol. Liberty's online program was voted #3 in the nation. They were reviewed with 2 other top schools in the nation in a popular national magazine. Forbes did an issue. Liberty won Big South conference champion titles in many sports. Call them tier 4 if you want, but you can't argue with the results and prominence many students obtain after graduation. The law school's first graduates scored on the same level as UVA who's program has been around a long time.

[idotvads]

How about a little scripture?

Luke 6:42 "You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

[jauggy]

Nice one.

[Paahau]

So w/that it is a no no to say the Republicans played the Christians along, pushed the right buttons, threw in enough fear?? Start thinking.

[aitoaster]

Evangelicals: Suckered again and taken for chumps.

[cdmunch]

Thanks Rev for reassuring us that the Republicans will do fine on Nov. 7th!!!

[elguaporicosuave]

uh... this is Falwell NOT Dobson.

[davidtbuckley]

righto, thx.

[AuShawster]

How can Falwell say Mark Folly hitting on boys is minuscule compared to Clinton getting a BJ from a woman. Are all Republicans queer?