-er, dude, clearly *you* care, since you got your panties in such a bunch over my comments. I'm actually being kind about the Sunderlands. Oxygen thieves is a very generous way to describe them.
Who cares about her age? I don't care about her age. What viewers and media should be criticizing is the fact that taxpayers have to pay for her expensive rescue. Does she care how much money her adventures are causing taxpayers? I got nothing against having adventures but she is being selfish and frivolous. I would rather that my tax dollars be spent on saving refugees around the world.
@momoxoxo22 Well, it was really more my tax dollars that paid for her rescue than yours. Australia and France did the actual rescuing, and by sea law we have to pay the bill.
But I don't blame her. Seems like she was pushed into it by her arsehole of a father there. And apparantly she was forced to leave without doing all these proper safety checks just so he could make some deadline for the reality show that was never going to happen anyway.
Cenk and Anna are BOTH WRONG! Larry ask if it was all just a STUNT to get a reality show and he said NO, which was true. He never said that there was never a reality show planned, he just denied the reasons for the show was for money or a fame etc.
@piefrance "Are they paying back all that money they owe taxpayers? "
Huh? What are you talking about? This was NOT financed by taxpayers. And, the rescuers do not expect any compensation at all. That is NOT the way they work.
Good on the US for nailing this prick. If he was English in England there would be no doubting him, he would be on breakfast TV every morning for a year and ultimately given a Knighthood .
"that can pluck these kids away from computers...?" - oh yeah, and leave them stuck on a boat with autohelms, mobile phones, GPS, EPIRBS, laptops, webcams, echo sounders, etc....(?)
North Americans eat this crap up which drives this craziness. The same people saying this guy is a disgrace as a father will be the same ones watching the reality show every Thursday night.
I think it's fine that they were going to do a reality show, or a book deal, or have any sponsors or deals they like. It think the issue is whether she was well-equipped, in every sense, to do the journey. If she hadn't been dismasted in the Indian Ocean, probably no one would have questioned this. Obviously her father is lying and is making everything much worse. I do think that if she makes money out of the journey then she (or her family) should pay for the rescue.
If this was truly Abbys goal to solo sail the globe more power to her.But now it seems that her father was trying to make a buck at the expense of his daughters safety.I started to realize how shady her father was when he said they were from a sailing community.I lived in Thousand Oaks for many years.It is far from a sailing community as the ocean is a good distance away.Mr Sunderland claims to be a born again Christian.Is'nt lying a sin?Hopefully he does'nt put anymore of his kids at risk 4 a $
I went back and watched the Larry King interview and it seems Mr. Sunderland answered the question about the reality show truthfully. I surprised the Cenk, having a background in law and being so insightful, would miss what Mr. Sunderland was answering. That is, that it was not "a stunt" done for a reality show. Certainly a reality show would be a good way to capitalize on going for the record, but it was the "record" that was the main purpose of the trip.
my mom freaks out when i get on a roller coaster....and this guy allows his daughter to go out to sea, after she was caught in danger because she went out to sea??
I don't understand how this happens. In America you can not even push the button to start a trash baler unless you are 18 years old. There are so few things that people under 18 are even allowed to do, how is piloting a boat around the world one of them?
Realy bad piece, TYT. The guy isn't lying. A 'reality' tv show is about following a family around, getting into their life, etc. The dad wanted to do a show about his kids sailing around the world, it's hardly a 'reality' show in the normal sense, and since it was conceived BEFORE the disaster, it's not even exploitive.
Gifted sailors? You must be joking, that spoiled little princess was badly underprepared and she nearly died. Her stupid parents should be charged with child neglect - take the kids away from them and send them to school, there's still a small chance that they could become useful human beings instead of the oxygen thieves that they are now.
Are you kidding me! Do you even know what you are talking about? I am privledged to know the Sunderland family and they are one of the kindest and most modest families that I have ever met! They live in a house that isn't bigger than 3000 square feet, with over 6 children and one on the way! That is the only house that Abby has ever known on dry land. You say that she is spoiled? How can you say that when you have never even met the girl! How dare you!
The day that the parasitic Sunderlands offer to pay back a cent to the countries that paid for that stupid girl's rescue is the day that I will retract what I said about them. I won't be holding my breath.
@Asymmatrix Gifted sailors? She sailed along at 4knots the entire trip in a racing boat which even a sailor with limited experience could have sailed at double or triple that speed. More like a puppet in a remote controlled boat.
@neons99 I think TYT get a lot of social arguments wrong, I for the most part agree with Cenk political ideology but when he and Ana do stuff like this, I almost always disagree with them
How can two preppy kids sailing around the world inspire the world's youth? Sailing is only done by preppy kids and their wealthy parents who spoil them. The world's youth doesn't give a fuck about sailing.
another reason why reality TV is retarded, people do the most insane shit to have cameras follow them around doing shit that smart people like 12% of the human race doesnt care about
I don't blame Abby for this affair, now with the benefit of hindsight we can see that her parents do seem dodgy making plans to do a reality show which fell through and putting her life at risk by ill prepairation. This is the opposite of how Jessica Watson did it, preparation and without some bizarre tv deal in the background. If they can pay they should pay, because saying that we have adventurers not accountants in the family that's why were no body about the rescue costs is a bad move.
I dont get what the big deal is. If she wants to sail around the world then let her. If she wants to do it again, or 500,000 more times, its not up to us to judge.
@spinnersmetal I agree. The question now is whether she wanted to do it or her dad pushed her to do it out of greed. Furthermore, it also matters whether he allowed her to prepare adequately for the trip or not.
@spinnersmetal She's 16. Yeah she's not a young child, but we all had big things we wanted to do at that age. They're her parents and it's kind of their job to make sure she's adequately prepared and if they did prepare her and she did this, they should've made sure they could afford to support the whole trip.
Boring... who cares? When Zworykin demonstrated the prototype of the television to Sarnoff of RCA, Sarnoff's reply was, in essence, "Gentlemen, you have just invented the greatest time-wasting device of all time."
US television used to have some quality TV... what is the matter with people & reality TV, pure crap incarnate... 1st you have the balloon boy... now you have this... any talentless hack is trying to get a reality show.
How did he put his daughter in danger? She's almost grown!!! She wasn't forced to do anything. She saw dollar signs just as her father did. What's dispicable is the fact that Australian taxpayers had to foot some of the bill for her rescue. LOL and we wonder why Europeans and such look down on us more and more.
@zule72 Oh my bad, Europeans are fucking clowns that don't mind their government wasting precious tax dollars on American idiots that purposely put themselves in harm's way for money ... while there are people broke, starving, hungry, and so forth. This isn't about selfish...this is about right vs. wrong. I personally feel this guy and his family should be responsible for the $1.1 mil this is costing, but if dumbass Europeans want to pay it to appear humanitarian, then by all means do it.
@smaugfrost First off, you can't force a 16 year old to do a damn thing. You can offer guidance but that's about it. Second, to encourage them to do something harmful is wrong, but don't pretend as if she was forced against her will. She saw dollar signs and false glory just as her father did.
@PerfectionZinc Oh that's right, you can ground them, beat them, sit on them, yell at them...all 100% effective measures to force an almost legal adult to do what you want them to do. That's why teens are out of control now, because they know their parents can't force them do a damn thing. WTF world do you live in dipshit?
@Jay20782 That would depend on what you mean by "force them to?". If you raised your kids right you should be able to get them to listen to you, but when you put food on the table and a roof over the head the cards are in your hands.
It's called punishment and some of us had parents not afraid to do it.
@Jay20782 Actually in a way you can make a 16 year do what you want them to if you are their parents and you have instilled since day one discipline. However, when it comes to this scenario she could have gone to authorities and told them that her life was in danger. Key words: HER LIFE IS IN DANGER. My mom would make me ( WITHOUT BELTS, WHIPS, GROUNDING or the like.) However, she nor my dad would NEVER allow me to sail around the world at 16. At 16 I could not even stay out past 11:00 p.m.
@staceyannc " in a way " ... In a way, you can do anything you want in the world lol that doesn't equate to being able to control another human being which is tantamount to slavery. I just think people need to stop making it seem as if this is some poor adolescent that was not of sound mind when making this decision. At 16 you could stay out past 11 pm, you just chose not to do it due to the repercussions laid out by your parents. Still, physically you were able to do it and many do.
@Jay20782 I'm not saying she is some " poor adolescence". When i saw this on 20/20 ( they were on it a few weeks before the whole debacle) mom, dad, and abby were all in agreement on this. No one is talking about controlling another human being. However, your child is your responsibility, if they want to do something stupid and reckless go ahead, however wait until your butt is 18. There is a big difference between " forced" and protecting lets not forget that.
@staceyannc And again, my point is you can't protect something or someone that does not want to be protected from something. A 16 year old is going to do what he or she wants to do. You can offer guidance but that's about it. You people act as if discipline and being a good role model are sure proof ways to guarantee a child goes in the right path. I've known plenty people with superb upbringings that turned out shitty.
@smaugfrost And within his responsibility there isn't but so much he or any parent can do. " Force " or responsibility , if a 16 year old wants to do something and are determined as such, they WILL find a way to do it. Period.
So, she "stole" the boat and filled if with supplies, contacted the relevant sponsoring companies, agreed to a reality show deal, plotted the course to be sailed, signed all the contracts necessary, forged her father's signatures on all said contracts, drove herself to the berth, boarded the boat, fueled it up and sailed away without ANY knowledge of her parents?
You are a moron. If her father did not want her to go, she could not have gone. He reneged on his parental responsibility
@smaugfrost No you stupid fuck...the point is even a 16 year old can acquire resources to do whatever they want to do ...even against their parents orders or " protection " as you all call it.
Really? A 16 year old can sign binding contracts, make plans with sponsoring companies, plot an oceanic wide sailing course, purchase and fuel a vessel, make arrangements for a potential reality show AND purchase and load all the supplies necessary, as well as perform any and all pre-voyage maintenance without ANY aid from her parents?
Here is my advice to you. Never have ANY kids. You have no common sense.
@smaugfrost Of course you stupid fuck. Have you never heard of divorcing one's parents? Have you never heard of temporary guardian status? If I'm a 16 year old and I want to do anything that I would so-called need parental permission, I'd seek to get rid of them as parents. It can be done.
Oh yeah i was watching Larry King show that night but i changed it because i knew that bastard lied. Yeah you can hear him being nervous and mumbling when trying to explain himself about that lie. A WORLD FULL OF LIARS ARE FUCKING IDIOTS. If she attempts to sail again and get stranded i suggest we all leave her and let whatever lurking in the water to do the rest of her. This time SpongeBob wont save her from Plankton.
Oh come on people. If you're home schooled, I'm sure you would have to fine something to do, maybe not this dangerous, but something. And the fact that they said they don't socialize with the kids in their neighborhood is just a bit weird.
it's all right ... dad's next son is only 6 months old , he'll be sailing around the world in a basket and their "" living lord jesus christ"" will be watching out for him every inch of the way... freak!!!!!
@krabadie for one thing, they had to send up huge military planes with communication systems on board to locate and communicate with her and monitor her situation till she was picked up. that shit is expensive.
@wubbadubdub i get that, but I just wonder if they could show an itemization of it(cost of fuel, wages of rescuers etc) . I often question cost of services since I know a lot of times it's arbitrary. My previous tech job services were charged based on what they think a customer was willing to pay for it not the degree of difficulty, time needed to fix a problem or hardware needed.
@jorgedug i don't think he believes what he did was wrong or put his daughter in special danger, but i do think he is trying to deceive the public about the facts
what this girl is doing isn't that impressive. she basically sits on this boat as it drives itself across the ocean. it's got GPS-directed autopilot. if you had enough money to buy the boat and a week or so of training and a family to instruct you via radio 24/7, you could do it. . .if you wanted to spend a huge amount of time doing something so fucking boring.
Cenk, Australia rescues people from the ocean within Australia's territory, for FREE. There is no $300,000 bill to be paid by anyone as it's already been covered by the Australian government.
@Tony007corp Citizenship is irrelevant, if anyone gets lost at sea in the AMSA's search region, they go out to find them and get them on their way home, free of charge.
It's a bit unfair on the tax payer in this situation since there's a fair bit of "stupid people putting themselves in unnecessary danger". Having said that, it's best to have 1 rule for all situations that eliminates the financial side of the equation when deciding when to save someone lost at sea.
@wubbadubdub Correction, "search region" not "territory" my mistake. Yes it was 2,000 miles off Western Australia however that falls within the Australian Maritime Safety Authority's search & rescue region. There's a hell of a lot of ocean out there and we cover a lot of it since we're pretty much the only country out here who has the resources to do it.
How can someone exploit their young children over there own monetary ambitions? I mean that girl (as brave as she is) could have been seriously injured or killed out in the open seas.
People need to stop with these 'I (did some hard feat) ALL BY MYSELF!!' I realize they deserve credit for their individual accomplishments etc, but it always leads to idiots like this who decide their children (not themselves) are gonna do it too!!!
And look what almost happened to the girl!! Arrest the parents. fucking reckless morons
@CheapBeer09 you know your right!!!! Why isn't the district attorney handing down a sentence of "child endangerment" on to this sorry excuse of a parent?
Abby Sunderland was a 16-year-old girl who attempted to sail around the world, but got caught in a storm in the Indian Ocean; she survived, but there's tons of controversy.
Yeah, this is not set up well. I am clueless what this is supposed to be. Sorry. I don't get it. Who is he? What did he do wrong? What kids? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Push her to do what thing?
Not many hundreds of years ago, kids were doing crap like this all the time. There were generals that were 12 years old and soldiers that were sometimes even younger.
People nowadays don't realize the potential of intelligence and maturity kids are capable of.
I'm not saying it's okay to let your kid off into the ocean alone at 16 - I wouldn't do it to my own kid - but kids were doing this YEARS ago. They were captains, sailors, soldiers, generals, etc. We've retarded our youth a bit...
@stopdreamingkid No, there were never any 12 year old generals and there were never any 12 year old soldiers. Were there apprentices? Yes. Did knights have pages and squires? Yes. Basically you are full of shit and the only 12 year old soldiers ever are in africa armed with ak's.
Girls however were being betrothed and fucked at the age of 12 and 13 "not many hundreds of years ago" if that is what you are talking about.
Oh my god, do you know NOTHING about history? If you don't know that the youngest general that ever lived was twelve years old, you're the one that's fucking retarded.
Go read "The Underground Education: History of American Education," you illiterate dipshit.
@stopdreamingkid the youngest general was Marquis de Lafayette at the age of 19, when he was commissioned Major General in 1777, fuck nut, learn some fucking history dipshit.
@stopdreamingkid well i must have some intelligence that you are lacking because you seem unable to know how to use either. why call me a fool? for looking up facts while you try to defend the bullshit you made up earlier with more bullshit? what are you? a republican?
@stopdreamingkid there isn't any credible evidence to suggest that a 12 y.o. ever made a 'good' general. all it takes to become a general is for a ruler to name you one. that kid, if he ever actually existed, was most likely the son of some nobleman who was such a fucking ass that he made his son a general, though he was obviously completely unqualified. the fact that you don't see things like that in the west these days is a little something called progress and reason.
I still don't see what the big deal is. So what if she is only 16. Who the hell are you people to act like you even know what the hell you are talking about? You people make me sick.
To allow your 16 year old daughter to circumnavigate the world alone when there is a sea full of somali pirates and tropical storms... Maybe not a good idea.
Wow, and here I thought the girl was fully qualified and fully equipped to complete the voyage. Shame on her dad if he did indeed push her to set sail without proper preparation. Shame on her dad twice if he did all this just to get a reality show. Same on her dad thrice for lying about it.
@2484Stryker for the most part, all that girl had to do was sit on the boat and wait for it to drive itself to the next way-point. chances are she was as qualified as anyone to do that.
It's so much sweeter when you picture this guy shoving his 16 year old daughter into a boat to face the stormy fury of Cape Horn solo.
This is yet another assurance of Falcon Syndrome (as I call it) where a parent will endanger, or appear to endanger the lives of their children in order to generate publicity.
Well I guess his adventures with Sunderlands did not pan out because now he is on the Amazing race
sweetheart2109 4 months ago
@Asymmatrix3
-er, dude, clearly *you* care, since you got your panties in such a bunch over my comments. I'm actually being kind about the Sunderlands. Oxygen thieves is a very generous way to describe them.
BadgerBoi 9 months ago
How can you make a reality TV show off of a stunt like that? What would the show then be about?
JAtria 1 year ago
Remember folks, it's NOT about the attempted task (sail around the world, climb a mountain, get gang banged by 200 people),
IT IS about the fame and notoriety that is acquired afterwards.
Abby Sunderland is your garden variety FAME WHORE.
v1f9 1 year ago 4
gave it a good rating :]
yakkahDotCom 1 year ago
Who cares about her age? I don't care about her age. What viewers and media should be criticizing is the fact that taxpayers have to pay for her expensive rescue. Does she care how much money her adventures are causing taxpayers? I got nothing against having adventures but she is being selfish and frivolous. I would rather that my tax dollars be spent on saving refugees around the world.
momoxoxo22 1 year ago
@momoxoxo22 Well, it was really more my tax dollars that paid for her rescue than yours. Australia and France did the actual rescuing, and by sea law we have to pay the bill.
But I don't blame her. Seems like she was pushed into it by her arsehole of a father there. And apparantly she was forced to leave without doing all these proper safety checks just so he could make some deadline for the reality show that was never going to happen anyway.
IMO, that dad needs some parenting lessons.
UnoriginallyInclined 1 year ago
@UnoriginallyInclined
By the way, she had to talk her dad into it for 3 years before he would even consider letting her go... by the way.
bradennash1 9 months ago
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momoxoxo22 1 year ago
Cenk and Anna are BOTH WRONG! Larry ask if it was all just a STUNT to get a reality show and he said NO, which was true. He never said that there was never a reality show planned, he just denied the reasons for the show was for money or a fame etc.
SundaysAndCybele 1 year ago
You two are goof balls and your points are dumb. I side with the Sunderlands. They are not the balloon boy family.
vogelj33 1 year ago
Send this fucker to gaol, he whored his
own daughter for publicity and money.
tippngthevelvet 1 year ago 2
These two reporters are ignorant twits! Anyone who looked at Abby, her parents, the expedition, would know what the real story is.
lochinvar00465 1 year ago
this guy got caught in his own web of lies
gsizzles 1 year ago
Sail Abby...Sail!
datniggami6 1 year ago
Are they paying back all that money they owe taxpayers?
piefrance 1 year ago
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@piefrance "Are they paying back all that money they owe taxpayers? "
Huh? What are you talking about? This was NOT financed by taxpayers. And, the rescuers do not expect any compensation at all. That is NOT the way they work.
lochinvar00465 1 year ago
yup, congratulations baloon boy dad... someone else has taken the cake.
CampHazzard 1 year ago
White people bailout. It's the most grandiose glorified welfare for whitey :)
superc 1 year ago
Dude risked his kid for a reality show disgusting.
harr77 1 year ago
Dude, this guy needs to start being a parent, get a JOB, and stop thinking about using your own daughter as a "cab driver" so to speak.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 1 year ago
Good on the US for nailing this prick. If he was English in England there would be no doubting him, he would be on breakfast TV every morning for a year and ultimately given a Knighthood .
leloby 1 year ago
"that can pluck these kids away from computers...?" - oh yeah, and leave them stuck on a boat with autohelms, mobile phones, GPS, EPIRBS, laptops, webcams, echo sounders, etc....(?)
incongra 1 year ago
North Americans eat this crap up which drives this craziness. The same people saying this guy is a disgrace as a father will be the same ones watching the reality show every Thursday night.
Ian7570 1 year ago
@Ian7570 North Americans? Have you hear of the Australian girl who did this two months ago? People in Sydney went nuts over it.
matteglossy 1 year ago
I think it's fine that they were going to do a reality show, or a book deal, or have any sponsors or deals they like. It think the issue is whether she was well-equipped, in every sense, to do the journey. If she hadn't been dismasted in the Indian Ocean, probably no one would have questioned this. Obviously her father is lying and is making everything much worse. I do think that if she makes money out of the journey then she (or her family) should pay for the rescue.
juliact 1 year ago
If this was truly Abbys goal to solo sail the globe more power to her.But now it seems that her father was trying to make a buck at the expense of his daughters safety.I started to realize how shady her father was when he said they were from a sailing community.I lived in Thousand Oaks for many years.It is far from a sailing community as the ocean is a good distance away.Mr Sunderland claims to be a born again Christian.Is'nt lying a sin?Hopefully he does'nt put anymore of his kids at risk 4 a $
2deltaactual 1 year ago
I went back and watched the Larry King interview and it seems Mr. Sunderland answered the question about the reality show truthfully. I surprised the Cenk, having a background in law and being so insightful, would miss what Mr. Sunderland was answering. That is, that it was not "a stunt" done for a reality show. Certainly a reality show would be a good way to capitalize on going for the record, but it was the "record" that was the main purpose of the trip.
nsx1com 1 year ago
i stand by my word, if you want to sail around the world, don't expect anyone to pay for it if you need to get rescued.
jvforever72 1 year ago
my mom freaks out when i get on a roller coaster....and this guy allows his daughter to go out to sea, after she was caught in danger because she went out to sea??
elmirasahar 1 year ago
"he has a vendetter" lolz
trythegenericversion 1 year ago
I don't understand how this happens. In America you can not even push the button to start a trash baler unless you are 18 years old. There are so few things that people under 18 are even allowed to do, how is piloting a boat around the world one of them?
klard 1 year ago
@klard News flash: Its not hard to get out of the fascist states of amerika when you're on a seaworthy boat.
bamboo4tameshigiri 1 year ago
The question is did the reality show idea come before or after she and the brother decided to do this.
I guess what I'm saying is, was the genesis of sailing around the world to get a tv show, or to accomplish something great?
I'm fine if he wants to make some money, but that should always be secondary.
:P
Joxman2k 1 year ago
Realy bad piece, TYT. The guy isn't lying. A 'reality' tv show is about following a family around, getting into their life, etc. The dad wanted to do a show about his kids sailing around the world, it's hardly a 'reality' show in the normal sense, and since it was conceived BEFORE the disaster, it's not even exploitive.
Asymmatrix 1 year ago
@Asymmatrix he's exploiting his kids for a reality tv show so he gets money.
that's pretty much exploitive in my opinion....
shiv604 1 year ago
@shiv604 His kids are obviously gifted sailors. Nothing wrong with making a show about the amazing shit they did.
Asymmatrix 1 year ago
@Asymmatrix
Gifted sailors? You must be joking, that spoiled little princess was badly underprepared and she nearly died. Her stupid parents should be charged with child neglect - take the kids away from them and send them to school, there's still a small chance that they could become useful human beings instead of the oxygen thieves that they are now.
BadgerBoi 1 year ago
@BadgerBoi Save your projected self hatred for someone who cares ie: no one.
Asymmatrix 1 year ago
@BadgerBoi
Are you kidding me! Do you even know what you are talking about? I am privledged to know the Sunderland family and they are one of the kindest and most modest families that I have ever met! They live in a house that isn't bigger than 3000 square feet, with over 6 children and one on the way! That is the only house that Abby has ever known on dry land. You say that she is spoiled? How can you say that when you have never even met the girl! How dare you!
bradennash1 9 months ago
@bradennash1
The day that the parasitic Sunderlands offer to pay back a cent to the countries that paid for that stupid girl's rescue is the day that I will retract what I said about them. I won't be holding my breath.
BadgerBoi 9 months ago
@Asymmatrix Gifted sailors? She sailed along at 4knots the entire trip in a racing boat which even a sailor with limited experience could have sailed at double or triple that speed. More like a puppet in a remote controlled boat.
thewayitisnt 1 month ago
Anyone else tired of the words "reality show?"
34601k 1 year ago 16
@34601k
often times there is little reality in "Reality Shows"
:P
Joxman2k 1 year ago
Balloon boy's dad all over again
edgeninja 1 year ago
i read some expert sailors said she should not have been in the area she was in this time of year.
campasini 1 year ago
i would be most woried about pirates on the seas. YARRR!!!
crackerz99 1 year ago
TYT got this one wrong IMO...
neons99 1 year ago 3
@neons99 I think TYT get a lot of social arguments wrong, I for the most part agree with Cenk political ideology but when he and Ana do stuff like this, I almost always disagree with them
krabadie 1 year ago
There is no reality show, i mean not now, i mean there was an agreement.
janses07 1 year ago
LOL Cenk, give them a break it is better than young people sat at a computer eating pizza all day.
If there is a reason to throw lots of money into the sea, isn't it better that it is to save kids on adventures than on oil leaks?
Any venture like this is going to have complex problems, however it seems to me much more that the other guy is lying.
Fact is the dad didn't have a reality show, so that was not a lie.
And the other guy on the line put out disparaging things the whole time.
seemed odd.
marsCubed 1 year ago
How can two preppy kids sailing around the world inspire the world's youth? Sailing is only done by preppy kids and their wealthy parents who spoil them. The world's youth doesn't give a fuck about sailing.
dizzymasekela 1 year ago 15
pluck the kids from computers at set them in front of the TV...im inspired...to eat a twinkie.
MemorysMystic 1 year ago
See I knew something was fishy with the whole thing.
NikEgUy101 1 year ago
another reason why reality TV is retarded, people do the most insane shit to have cameras follow them around doing shit that smart people like 12% of the human race doesnt care about
CyberSpartan66 1 year ago
I don't blame Abby for this affair, now with the benefit of hindsight we can see that her parents do seem dodgy making plans to do a reality show which fell through and putting her life at risk by ill prepairation. This is the opposite of how Jessica Watson did it, preparation and without some bizarre tv deal in the background. If they can pay they should pay, because saying that we have adventurers not accountants in the family that's why were no body about the rescue costs is a bad move.
Remus0387 1 year ago
that girl was sexy
poopaholictar 1 year ago
I dont get what the big deal is. If she wants to sail around the world then let her. If she wants to do it again, or 500,000 more times, its not up to us to judge.
spinnersmetal 1 year ago
@spinnersmetal I agree. The question now is whether she wanted to do it or her dad pushed her to do it out of greed. Furthermore, it also matters whether he allowed her to prepare adequately for the trip or not.
2484Stryker 1 year ago
@spinnersmetal She's 16. Yeah she's not a young child, but we all had big things we wanted to do at that age. They're her parents and it's kind of their job to make sure she's adequately prepared and if they did prepare her and she did this, they should've made sure they could afford to support the whole trip.
The girl is fine, her dad is an idiot.
DisturbedHavok 1 year ago
From balloon boy to boat girl.
MassLiberal1 1 year ago 2
Her boat was too small to handle 30 foot swells.
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nana5571 1 year ago
@coccioloneus Seriously, that is majorly pathetic.
DavidFullam 1 year ago
Boring... who cares? When Zworykin demonstrated the prototype of the television to Sarnoff of RCA, Sarnoff's reply was, in essence, "Gentlemen, you have just invented the greatest time-wasting device of all time."
audadvnc 1 year ago
US television used to have some quality TV... what is the matter with people & reality TV, pure crap incarnate... 1st you have the balloon boy... now you have this... any talentless hack is trying to get a reality show.
BioCapsule 1 year ago
Ahahahahahahah caught in his own mess!!! Did he not say "this is a direct question?" ahahahaha
mdot0785 1 year ago
How did he put his daughter in danger? She's almost grown!!! She wasn't forced to do anything. She saw dollar signs just as her father did. What's dispicable is the fact that Australian taxpayers had to foot some of the bill for her rescue. LOL and we wonder why Europeans and such look down on us more and more.
Jay20782 1 year ago
@Jay20782 actually europe is very much into helping out ppl in need... you make no sense whatsoever... horrible, selfish thing to say there
zule72 1 year ago
@zule72 Oh my bad, Europeans are fucking clowns that don't mind their government wasting precious tax dollars on American idiots that purposely put themselves in harm's way for money ... while there are people broke, starving, hungry, and so forth. This isn't about selfish...this is about right vs. wrong. I personally feel this guy and his family should be responsible for the $1.1 mil this is costing, but if dumbass Europeans want to pay it to appear humanitarian, then by all means do it.
Jay20782 1 year ago
@Jay20782
I do believe even in Australia that a 16 year old is still considered a minor, yes?
You don't think allowing your daughter to sail around the freaking world by herself was "putting her in harm's way" ?
What if she fell overboard or became injured and needed medical assistance ?
This is not about "forcing" her to do anything.
It is about responsible parenting.
If she wanted to star in a porno film, would your attitude be "She's almost grown!" ?
smaugfrost 1 year ago
@smaugfrost First off, you can't force a 16 year old to do a damn thing. You can offer guidance but that's about it. Second, to encourage them to do something harmful is wrong, but don't pretend as if she was forced against her will. She saw dollar signs and false glory just as her father did.
Jay20782 1 year ago 2
@Jay20782 yes you can force them dumbass
PerfectionZinc 1 year ago
@PerfectionZinc Oh that's right, you can ground them, beat them, sit on them, yell at them...all 100% effective measures to force an almost legal adult to do what you want them to do. That's why teens are out of control now, because they know their parents can't force them do a damn thing. WTF world do you live in dipshit?
Jay20782 1 year ago
@Jay20782 trust me
if someone has been abused enough...they will basically do anything their abuser tells them to
PerfectionZinc 1 year ago
@Jay20782 That would depend on what you mean by "force them to?". If you raised your kids right you should be able to get them to listen to you, but when you put food on the table and a roof over the head the cards are in your hands.
It's called punishment and some of us had parents not afraid to do it.
volcombillx3 1 year ago
@Jay20782 Actually in a way you can make a 16 year do what you want them to if you are their parents and you have instilled since day one discipline. However, when it comes to this scenario she could have gone to authorities and told them that her life was in danger. Key words: HER LIFE IS IN DANGER. My mom would make me ( WITHOUT BELTS, WHIPS, GROUNDING or the like.) However, she nor my dad would NEVER allow me to sail around the world at 16. At 16 I could not even stay out past 11:00 p.m.
staceyannc 1 year ago
@staceyannc " in a way " ... In a way, you can do anything you want in the world lol that doesn't equate to being able to control another human being which is tantamount to slavery. I just think people need to stop making it seem as if this is some poor adolescent that was not of sound mind when making this decision. At 16 you could stay out past 11 pm, you just chose not to do it due to the repercussions laid out by your parents. Still, physically you were able to do it and many do.
Jay20782 1 year ago
@Jay20782 I'm not saying she is some " poor adolescence". When i saw this on 20/20 ( they were on it a few weeks before the whole debacle) mom, dad, and abby were all in agreement on this. No one is talking about controlling another human being. However, your child is your responsibility, if they want to do something stupid and reckless go ahead, however wait until your butt is 18. There is a big difference between " forced" and protecting lets not forget that.
staceyannc 1 year ago
@staceyannc And again, my point is you can't protect something or someone that does not want to be protected from something. A 16 year old is going to do what he or she wants to do. You can offer guidance but that's about it. You people act as if discipline and being a good role model are sure proof ways to guarantee a child goes in the right path. I've known plenty people with superb upbringings that turned out shitty.
Jay20782 1 year ago
@Jay20782
I never once stated she was "forced" to do it.
What does that matter ?
He is still the father and still has responsibility until she is an adult.
He is a horrible parent for letting her do this alone.
smaugfrost 1 year ago
@smaugfrost And within his responsibility there isn't but so much he or any parent can do. " Force " or responsibility , if a 16 year old wants to do something and are determined as such, they WILL find a way to do it. Period.
Jay20782 1 year ago
@Jay20782
So, she "stole" the boat and filled if with supplies, contacted the relevant sponsoring companies, agreed to a reality show deal, plotted the course to be sailed, signed all the contracts necessary, forged her father's signatures on all said contracts, drove herself to the berth, boarded the boat, fueled it up and sailed away without ANY knowledge of her parents?
You are a moron. If her father did not want her to go, she could not have gone. He reneged on his parental responsibility
smaugfrost 1 year ago
@smaugfrost No you stupid fuck...the point is even a 16 year old can acquire resources to do whatever they want to do ...even against their parents orders or " protection " as you all call it.
Jay20782 1 year ago
@Jay20782
Really? A 16 year old can sign binding contracts, make plans with sponsoring companies, plot an oceanic wide sailing course, purchase and fuel a vessel, make arrangements for a potential reality show AND purchase and load all the supplies necessary, as well as perform any and all pre-voyage maintenance without ANY aid from her parents?
Here is my advice to you. Never have ANY kids. You have no common sense.
They would utterly enslave and subjugate you.
smaugfrost 1 year ago
@smaugfrost Of course you stupid fuck. Have you never heard of divorcing one's parents? Have you never heard of temporary guardian status? If I'm a 16 year old and I want to do anything that I would so-called need parental permission, I'd seek to get rid of them as parents. It can be done.
Jay20782 1 year ago
The question was "was this done to get a reality deal"......not did you try to get a reality deal....two different questions. What lie?
Then the young jerk says.....hell no, hell no, like he runs the world.....does he have obama syndrome?
HEYBUDD 1 year ago
Oh yeah i was watching Larry King show that night but i changed it because i knew that bastard lied. Yeah you can hear him being nervous and mumbling when trying to explain himself about that lie. A WORLD FULL OF LIARS ARE FUCKING IDIOTS. If she attempts to sail again and get stranded i suggest we all leave her and let whatever lurking in the water to do the rest of her. This time SpongeBob wont save her from Plankton.
AlvaroAndfriends 1 year ago 2
no I feel that they are a staunch sea faring family
moviedude22 1 year ago
Oh come on people. If you're home schooled, I'm sure you would have to fine something to do, maybe not this dangerous, but something. And the fact that they said they don't socialize with the kids in their neighborhood is just a bit weird.
again2021 1 year ago
You may be exaggerating somewhat because her brother did it a few years ago, so these guys must know something about sailing.
And again, Jessica Watson, an Australian 16 year old girl just made it. Shouldn't you talk a bit about her? Instead of just all this shitty drama.
watermind 1 year ago
I just wan't ro say one thing....WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT THIS DUDE DOES AND WHAT HIS CHILDREN DOES???????????
donatshabani 1 year ago
The dad should be arrested for child endangerment. Why not? People get arrested on that charge for far less negligence...
InfidelAvenger 1 year ago 3
wow, this reminds me of ballon boy, except he put his daughter in actual physical danger to make money. What a dick face.
Leadman1989 1 year ago 61
look at his posture and his features the guys lying out is arse
Chill197 1 year ago
Slow news day Cenk and Ana?
MrElucidate 1 year ago
@MrElucidate
Actually,
the day was full of "real" news, but for some reason,
most Americans eat up this kind of hapless shit.
Sad, no?
bobbytiger 1 year ago
it's all right ... dad's next son is only 6 months old , he'll be sailing around the world in a basket and their "" living lord jesus christ"" will be watching out for him every inch of the way... freak!!!!!
dangermous1968 1 year ago
Save yourselves, throw your TV away! Your IQ will rise 3%
Valdris1987 1 year ago 68
@Valdris1987 you mean 30%
arga400 1 year ago
@Valdris1987 It's a cycle, TV => lower IQ => poorer decision making ability => more TV
This might not happen in every case but overall the averages will kick in.
:(
CaptainKanuk42 1 year ago
@Valdris1987 It's a cycle, TV => lower IQ => poorer decision making ability => more TV
This might not happen in every case but overall the averages will kick in.
:(
CaptainKanuk42 1 year ago
@Valdris1987 you couldn't be more correct
mastershake400 1 year ago
@Valdris1987
If you believe this your IQ is already too low for this to make a difference.
Knoxerboy101 1 year ago
@Valdris1987 You can increase your IQ by 2% just by not watching MTV or Fox News :D
restlesspride666 1 year ago
@Valdris1987 I agree, but there's not much difference between YouTube and TV. Except here we can hurl abuse at each other! ;p
matteglossy 1 year ago
He just auditioned for "worst parent of the decade" ...
PlayT0E 1 year ago
"Working the system" is common place in the US, but "Working your kids"?
fret2424 1 year ago
an inspirational reality tv show based on my kids making me tons of money.
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
From Australia,
We're sorry, our bad
(This shit is embarrassing)
TheFunkyDomination 1 year ago
@TheFunkyDomination
Just charge the guy for all the costs and you're 110% redeemed. Charge them a deposit if they want to send her out on another trip, too.
TheGiantRobot 1 year ago
Why did it cost 300k to rescue her? I wonder if they have site that show itemize cost, seems fishy like it made up
krabadie 1 year ago
@krabadie for one thing, they had to send up huge military planes with communication systems on board to locate and communicate with her and monitor her situation till she was picked up. that shit is expensive.
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
@wubbadubdub i get that, but I just wonder if they could show an itemization of it(cost of fuel, wages of rescuers etc) . I often question cost of services since I know a lot of times it's arbitrary. My previous tech job services were charged based on what they think a customer was willing to pay for it not the degree of difficulty, time needed to fix a problem or hardware needed.
krabadie 1 year ago
@krabadie i feel you on that. i think they've cost someone a lot of money, but that 300,000 number could definitely been pulled out of thin air
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
I don think he is lying. Looking at his eye movelements, it seems more like the guy is searching, trying to remember things, but not lying.
jorgedug 1 year ago
@jorgedug i don't think he believes what he did was wrong or put his daughter in special danger, but i do think he is trying to deceive the public about the facts
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
what this girl is doing isn't that impressive. she basically sits on this boat as it drives itself across the ocean. it's got GPS-directed autopilot. if you had enough money to buy the boat and a week or so of training and a family to instruct you via radio 24/7, you could do it. . .if you wanted to spend a huge amount of time doing something so fucking boring.
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
SURPRISE BUTTSECKS!
Exogenesix19 1 year ago
Cenk, Australia rescues people from the ocean within Australia's territory, for FREE. There is no $300,000 bill to be paid by anyone as it's already been covered by the Australian government.
UniqueNameGoesHere 1 year ago
@UniqueNameGoesHere It be free if she were a Australian citizen but they may have a right to charge her since shes not.
Tony007corp 1 year ago
@Tony007corp Citizenship is irrelevant, if anyone gets lost at sea in the AMSA's search region, they go out to find them and get them on their way home, free of charge.
It's a bit unfair on the tax payer in this situation since there's a fair bit of "stupid people putting themselves in unnecessary danger". Having said that, it's best to have 1 rule for all situations that eliminates the financial side of the equation when deciding when to save someone lost at sea.
UniqueNameGoesHere 1 year ago
@UniqueNameGoesHere was she rescued in australian waters? i thought she was like 2000 miles from anywhere.
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
@wubbadubdub Correction, "search region" not "territory" my mistake. Yes it was 2,000 miles off Western Australia however that falls within the Australian Maritime Safety Authority's search & rescue region. There's a hell of a lot of ocean out there and we cover a lot of it since we're pretty much the only country out here who has the resources to do it.
UniqueNameGoesHere 1 year ago
How can someone exploit their young children over there own monetary ambitions? I mean that girl (as brave as she is) could have been seriously injured or killed out in the open seas.
What an absolute douchebag for a father!!!!!!
Jensagirl 1 year ago
@Jensagirl don't be so surprised. people microwave their babies for free EVERYDAY (rarely reported of course). child abuse is as common as dirt.
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
Fucking liar.. Blah blah blah blah... Keep digging a hole you douche..
Saskifried 1 year ago
Idiot
People need to stop with these 'I (did some hard feat) ALL BY MYSELF!!' I realize they deserve credit for their individual accomplishments etc, but it always leads to idiots like this who decide their children (not themselves) are gonna do it too!!!
And look what almost happened to the girl!! Arrest the parents. fucking reckless morons
CheapBeer09 1 year ago
@CheapBeer09 you know your right!!!! Why isn't the district attorney handing down a sentence of "child endangerment" on to this sorry excuse of a parent?
Jensagirl 1 year ago
American parents.... media whores
robinvan1983 1 year ago
@robinvan1983
the father isn't american.
1988430 1 year ago
Abby Sunderland was a 16-year-old girl who attempted to sail around the world, but got caught in a storm in the Indian Ocean; she survived, but there's tons of controversy.
That's the background for this story.
oldmoviemusic 1 year ago
Yeah, this is not set up well. I am clueless what this is supposed to be. Sorry. I don't get it. Who is he? What did he do wrong? What kids? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Push her to do what thing?
rjnovac 1 year ago
I have no idea who this person is let alone who their father is and I don't care. Come on TYT pick up the pace.
Capng123 1 year ago
Can you guys fix the audio? FUCK.
asdfjkLAWL 1 year ago
@asdfjkLAWL LMAO! xD Try later.
afonscp 1 year ago
now-a-days if you want to get rich you gotta PIMP YOUR KID lmao crazy fuckers.
UltimoLatino 1 year ago
@UltimoLatino lotta money to be made on the backs of children
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
Not many hundreds of years ago, kids were doing crap like this all the time. There were generals that were 12 years old and soldiers that were sometimes even younger.
People nowadays don't realize the potential of intelligence and maturity kids are capable of.
I'm not saying it's okay to let your kid off into the ocean alone at 16 - I wouldn't do it to my own kid - but kids were doing this YEARS ago. They were captains, sailors, soldiers, generals, etc. We've retarded our youth a bit...
stopdreamingkid 1 year ago
@stopdreamingkid No, there were never any 12 year old generals and there were never any 12 year old soldiers. Were there apprentices? Yes. Did knights have pages and squires? Yes. Basically you are full of shit and the only 12 year old soldiers ever are in africa armed with ak's.
Girls however were being betrothed and fucked at the age of 12 and 13 "not many hundreds of years ago" if that is what you are talking about.
WhoJoo 1 year ago
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rudedude985 1 year ago
@stopdreamingkid yea in another 50-100 years 20 year olds are gonna be considered children
ash9023 1 year ago
@stopdreamingkid did you really just say there were once 12 year old generals? are you fucking retarded?
CannibalShinobi 1 year ago
@CannibalShinobi
Oh my god, do you know NOTHING about history? If you don't know that the youngest general that ever lived was twelve years old, you're the one that's fucking retarded.
Go read "The Underground Education: History of American Education," you illiterate dipshit.
stopdreamingkid 1 year ago
@stopdreamingkid the youngest general was Marquis de Lafayette at the age of 19, when he was commissioned Major General in 1777, fuck nut, learn some fucking history dipshit.
CannibalShinobi 1 year ago
@CannibalShinobi
LOL does knowing how to use Google and Wikipedia make you feel intelligent?
Stupid fool.
stopdreamingkid 1 year ago
@stopdreamingkid well i must have some intelligence that you are lacking because you seem unable to know how to use either. why call me a fool? for looking up facts while you try to defend the bullshit you made up earlier with more bullshit? what are you? a republican?
CannibalShinobi 1 year ago
@stopdreamingkid there isn't any credible evidence to suggest that a 12 y.o. ever made a 'good' general. all it takes to become a general is for a ruler to name you one. that kid, if he ever actually existed, was most likely the son of some nobleman who was such a fucking ass that he made his son a general, though he was obviously completely unqualified. the fact that you don't see things like that in the west these days is a little something called progress and reason.
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
I still don't see what the big deal is. So what if she is only 16. Who the hell are you people to act like you even know what the hell you are talking about? You people make me sick.
burntonion05 1 year ago
To allow your 16 year old daughter to circumnavigate the world alone when there is a sea full of somali pirates and tropical storms... Maybe not a good idea.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
What is wrong with computers, why do children need to be plucked away from computers...
corebore13 1 year ago
Oh damn. The Plot thickens!!
Ryan2142 1 year ago
Wow, and here I thought the girl was fully qualified and fully equipped to complete the voyage. Shame on her dad if he did indeed push her to set sail without proper preparation. Shame on her dad twice if he did all this just to get a reality show. Same on her dad thrice for lying about it.
2484Stryker 1 year ago
@2484Stryker for the most part, all that girl had to do was sit on the boat and wait for it to drive itself to the next way-point. chances are she was as qualified as anyone to do that.
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
LOL Abby Sunderland
OMGSEASALT 1 year ago
3:00
It's so much sweeter when you picture this guy shoving his 16 year old daughter into a boat to face the stormy fury of Cape Horn solo.
This is yet another assurance of Falcon Syndrome (as I call it) where a parent will endanger, or appear to endanger the lives of their children in order to generate publicity.
chenalos 1 year ago
@chenalos This is more and more starting to sound like the Balloon Boy thing again...hopefully I am wrong :(
thenewageriseth 1 year ago
@thenewageriseth i think we're gonna see a lot of this sort of thing. i'm surprised there hasn't been a show yet with that kid who just did everest.
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
At 1:17 i thought he said Gay Porn. lol
fightinglobo06 1 year ago
It is obviously clear that Mr. Sunderland truly wears the skirt in his family while his wife and Abby wear the pants!
ecwaufisxtreme 1 year ago
another ballon boy dad!!! =D
FxOxC 1 year ago 2