mi chiedo di quale utilità sia continuare a combattere mentre i servizi segreti americani , dopo aver inscenato la finta dipartita di osama bin laden , stanno trattando in modo serrato con in vari capi talebani una soluzione che permetta aglin stessi di entrare a far parte del cosidetto governo democratico afghano ...
@saurabhdelft Well, actually Taliban numbers have decreased....Anyways, your consistent inability to answer my uniqueness or link shows that you are unable to debate in a formal sense. There is no reason to continue this unless you can come up with reasonable non-unique, no-link, or case turn arguments on Allied Prolif or Debt Ceiling rather than making a tiny bit of only impact defense and claims that deny practical fact about both Proliferation or hitting the debt ceiling. Good day
@saurabhdelft No, I just think that a video series is not as credible as a person's written works. I never said they blew because they denounce America haha, but nice try. I don't care what the Afghanis think because it is not essential for the mission, I'm not trying to solve Afghanistan, just my advantages and by extension their impacts. Counter-Terrorism solves Taliban by using DIRECT FORCE to scare the citizens enough, plus the Taliban can only take over if we leave.
@saurabhdelft Credibility applies to nations in East Asia, some parts of Africa, and some parts of South America and Europe, not the Muslim world. You are creating a straw target, credibility is not regional, its international. Can you name the way that the Israel argument interacts with the practical results of the war in Afghanistan. Like, explicitly state them
@saurabhdelft Think Tanks mostly support one view, or if they show both, they prefer one, what think tanks are you talking about? Also, you are not Jesus, stop acting like you are making a huge difference. India is still our ally, they still support our occupation of Afghanistan, obviously you are failing. Also, those videos blow sorry.
@saurabhdelft Also, there is no such thing as fact in that field, experts have only to do with theory. What facts do you have? That Israel was a bad move, nope thats opinion. That we want to cause civil war, nope thats opinion. Debate is an argument of founded opinions. Um, actually Japan has openly said it would develop nukes and can develop nukes if our security guarantees don't hold up. South Korea will follow. Um, the answer about default is a claim without warrant, so not an argument
@saurabhdelft The only reason I am denouncing your arguments is that I have judged debates a lot. You would be losing because you have no offense on the flow and no defense for the foundations of arguments as well as failing to support claims with warrants. You have failed the most basic aspects of forming an argument and debating. Then you will say something along the line that "that is only your definition", no, thats the standard model for debate. Meet it or forfeit
@saurabhdelft When did you answer the uniqueness or link to my debt ceiling argument, you have played light impact defense, but I still win risk of my advantage giving me ground. Same with allied prolif, no uniqueness or link arguments and no offense on the arguments either. Israel is about morality, i am talking about practicality, what about this do you not understand? Honestly, you are obsessed with Israel because you think it is the whole Earth. ITS NOT.
@saurabhdelft You are misunderstanding credibility, it is the US credibility with the world. You have no idea what im talking about clearly by your response, which doesn't even make a lick of sense. Debt Ceiling has nothing to do with WMDS, Allied Prolif has to do with nations that don't have WMDs, but could have them, i.e. South Korea/Japan. Israel has nothing to do with credibility, thats morality and a different issue entirely.
@saurabhdelft You don't know what HDI is because it cannot wreck a country because it is a measurement of Human Development. I don't understand how you can speak to college students without even a basic knowledge of the world. That is frightening. I like how your word defies international studies, think tank organizations, world leaders, professors of major institutions, economists, and nobel prize winners. YOU MUST BE THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE!
@saurabhdelft Why is Allied Prolif unfounded, it is supported by the theory that extended deterrence creates an incentive for nations to not need weapons. Withdrawal weakens that guarantee, thus, it makes them need to prolif. There, thats the foundation. Um, they have not grown when America defauted because WE HAVE NEVER DEFAULTED, that means TOTAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, TOTAL. Um, no, most economists agree that the US economy is key to the global economy.
@saurabhdelft YIPPIE, you found an English video that supports no imperialism, thats like 90% of English videos by psychotic liberals, CONGRATS! The media is not where I am getting information, and also, can you give an exact author that rights that this is true. Um, you do know that in a debate you have to answer my counter arguments and i have flipped through the conversation and yes, you answered both of those arguments, but HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE COUNTER-ARGUMENTS! Answer those.
@saurabhdelft Credibility applies to the international community as does appeasement, it has no specific link to Pakistan. Yes, and Pakistani professors have a super great track record and so does India, o wait, your HDI is like a third of ours and Pakistan's is like one eighth. There are some good institutions in India, i do admit, but for the most part, the education is shit. Still failed to point out where you answered allied prolif and you dropped debt ceiling. Conceding a plenty.
@saurabhdelft I never said you exaggerated, i said that you said my arguments are exaggerated, nice command of my language cunty mctwat. Lol also cannot be a noun. We would care because nuclear war there affects all of us, you failed to answer that and my we ally to stop fights, but whatever. Actually nuclear war impacts outweigh the few people suffering, haha you don't understand impacts. Great arguments tho. Actually, some would happen to me if we left, my bones would turn to dust.
@saurabhdelft Also, extend my argument that China is no longer the greatest potential competitor for hegemon, India is, China will plateau because of the one child system. We still trade heavily with China and actually would be up shit creek without a paddle if they were annihilated.
@saurabhdelft Hegemony is the argument that staying in Afghanistan increases our credibility, which increases soft power and prevents us from falling into the trap of appeasement. WE DON'T WANT CIVIL WAR. Honestly, where is our author, or are you, the mighty man from youtube just claiming this. We have allied with Pakistan and India both because we like India as an ally, and for the purpose that they don't blow each other off the map. Nuclear war hurts the whole globe.
@saurabhdelft Actually McChyrstal didn't really tell the truth, you are failing at American knowledge, he attempted to get relieved by being purposefully controversial because Obama is an idiot. Even if we stopped all of those things, we would still hit the debt ceiling by the end of the summer, sorry. You said that Allied Prolif is just an exaggeration, but give no warrant and thus this is an irrelevant argument. I don't care WHY we are in Afghanistan, i just care about the results.
@saurabhdelft Can you point out how to responded to my most recent counter-arguments on Allied Prolif, Power Vacuum, or Heg, cause you didn't. Don't just say you did, point out where and what you said.
@saurabhdelft Um, if we lowered all social services, hitting the debt ceiling would still make us default, you don't seem to understand the mentality of foreign and domestic investors. If we left all foreign countries, every single one (even the ones that we just supply food to) we would still hit the debt ceiling in June. McChrystal is also no longer our general, we was relieved of his duties, epic failure. Petraus is the current general.
@saurabhdelft The debt ceiling argument has nothing to do with imperialism, its about American politics and it affects the entire globe through US economic collapse leads to global economic collapse. You don't seem to understand how to argue, yes you have argued all of those points, but I have responded to your answers, and now you have to answer back. We don't want Pak instability, where is your author? China won't be the largest growing country, India will be, and we support them.
@saurabhdelft I am justifying the occupation by saying it solves Pak instability, great power vacuums (still have yet to answer the LATEST argument), debt ceiling, heg, and allied prolif. Intentions don't really matter at this point, results do, impacts outweigh uniqueness. Even if they are imperialistic, which i'm not saying they are, that in no way takes out my arguments about the benefits. You neglect clash, which is a up hill battle to start with.
@saurabhdelft I'm not arguing that America is morally right to do, but rather that it is practical. The practicality varies by location, do you honestly not understand the difference? I really don't care if America is being unethical, the fact is that it works and is helping everyone. NO YOU CANNOT FIND AUTHORS AGAINST DEBT CEILING. Last time we hit it, we lost a billion dollars in a day. I'm sorry, but you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Pro-debt ceiling>anti 1000 to 1
@saurabhdelft I can list more authors if needed, I have probably about 1000, thats not an exaggeration and i have their entire articles. North Korea is no longer backed by China, look at recent events involving the attack, China now holds South Korea as a more valuable trader partner. The economic system will not change if we hit the debt ceiling, it is explode and make us default and then the world economy goes in the toilet. Bad economic times lead to war.
@saurabhdelft Yeo, the foreign minister of Singapore, Tellis 08 Senior Associate of Carnegie Institute Endowment for International Peace and Research director of the Strategic Asia Program.
@saurabhdelft I don't care about American ethics or double standards in this debate, as I am debating policy, not philosophy. I am looking for real tangible results, not ethical bullshit, thus Israel is irrelevant. Many of my authors are from India, China, Iraq, South Korea, Japan, in fact, only the debt ceiling authors are mostly from those countries(sorta cause they have to be). Authors=Carla Norrlof, Associate Professor of Political Science, Singh, an author from the Strait TImes. hold on
@saurabhdelft On to allied prolif, you answered this wrong and saw existed arms races as my impacts, but my impacts are arms races with countries that do not currently want nukes, like Japan or South Korea, which would cause tensions in the area. The only reason I'm advocating America's self image is that it prevents these impacts. On to debt ceiling, you didn't answer my uniqueness, link, or impact, I explained how domestic policy spills over to the global, you failed to answer this.
@saurabhdelft No, but Diego Garcia and Israel do not have anything to do with Afghanistan, so I really don't care, you win those arguments fine. That doesn't help your case against by disadvantages of withdrawal. Right, you can send those experts and then I can do author indicts because I have already argued against the people you will name, my authors are from many different countries, not just America.
@saurabhdelft You didn't really respond to them, as you made claims without warrant or data and that is not an argument, that is a third of an argument. No destabilization to the point of loose nukes or complete collapse is what I meant. I do not advocate leaving Afghanistan, I advocate staying and if that means collateral damage or a cost of men, it is the cost of waging a daring war. We started the war, now we are committed to it.
@saurabhdelft Right, but we have been there for 9 years with COIN and no destabilization. We have been there for even longer with other strategies. Also, what is your answer to allied prolif and debt ceiling?
@saurabhdelft Right, but theres no impact thus it has no effect. I have not proclaimed myself winner yet, i have simply said you dropped arguments and made mistakes, thats how you debate. You are being arrogant in your claims that I have claimed victory. The arguments had nothing to do with Afghanistan policy and had no impacts and thus have no weight. They are about ethics, this is policy, come back with links and impacts and the arguments will be weighed.
@saurabhdelft They don't support you at all and you give no warrants to either claim, each argument is baseless without reason. I mean its not like you can disprove expert opinion without actually doing any sort of work whatsoever.
@saurabhdelft If we truly give all of those arms, then the impact of destabilization should be Pak collapse, which leads to loose nukes. This has not happened, therefore there is no point to your argument and you did not play defense against my case arguments, therefore your point is null and concede my offense
@saurabhdelft I did explain the Allied Prolif and Debt Ceiling arguments in my post below. Its a few posts down, you may have missed it, but anyways, my words not disprove my arguments or negate them. We do not encourage drug production, but rather have a team of anti-opium soldiers in COIN. Um, your argument about us giving arms to Pakistan and local warlords should have already triggered by impact, therefore it has no link and does not give you ground in the debate.
@saurabhdelft Alright, but you still didn't answer anything about Afghanistan and thus, due to this, you do actually admit that US occupation is a good thing and leaving would be disastrous. You see, that the allied prolif and debt ceiling arguments are not actually biased and our occupation of Afghanistan is for the benefit of ALL of mankind. I am making a difference in something called policy, this type of debate breeds the future leaders and politicians of the world. The world needs leaders.
@saurabhdelft Ok, i do concede that, but you access no impacts with this, so its irrelevant to the debate hahahahha. I really could care less because it doesn't take out my inherency, solvency, or my advantages to staying in Afghanistan
@saurabhdelft Allied prolif is the thought that if we withdraw then it signals a weakness of our extended deterrence security guarantees and allies begin to proliferate nuclear weapons, which in turn sparks arms races and terrible war escalation. Debt Ceiling is a political scenario in which the Tea Party gets pissed off because of having to deal with foreign policy and they vote against raising the debt ceiling, which leads to economic collapse and worldwide turmoil
@saurabhdelft There is measure to the amount of it actually, thats how people evaluate country stability and human development hahaha. Um, China and Russia and India are also at issue of power vacuum. Alright I will explain the arguments
@saurabhdelft I could really care less about winning the hearts and minds of the people, its for their own good anyways. Um, I do have those rights because the Taliban has a larger percentage and human rights violations, but whatever, you still did not address the issue, that is that the war will stop Power Vacuums, the countries involved in these power vacuums are mostly not Muslim, and you didn't answer the allied prolif or debt ceiling argument, thus you concede.
@saurabhdelft No, they really aren't, I'm arguing for the positive effects of the war in Afghanistan. Even the US doesn't intend it, we have positive effects in Afghanistan and by staying in we prevent allied proliferation and allow the debt ceiling bill to pass (explanations if you would like) and it would prevent great power vacuums, which you have still failed to answer. I honestly could care less about Diego Garcia, and Israel is another topic entirely. This is about Afghanistan
@saurabhdelft Yes, the government in Pakistan that you said we funded, oops thats a double bind and you destroy both your arguments, your bad. Who should we give the island back to, it was uninhabited when settled. Those aren't Arabs in Afghanistan, they're mostly Pashtuns, and many of the people of the region, including Afghani residents and India and Pakistan like us being there. WE ARE NOT ARGUING ISRAEL, WE ARE ARGUING AFGHANISTAN, THESE ARE DIFFERENT ISSUES ENTIRELY.
@saurabhdelft I hate the UN, but still, my point is that world organizations consider Israel a fully legal states. The UN is shitty. Um, actually look it up, the UK still owns Diego Garcia buddy, we don't have our hands on it, haha you fail. Who says Israel is illegal, the muslim states? HHAHAHAHAHAHHA, they are stuck in the 1600s and you take their word over the word of most of the Americas and Europe (and Turkey). That is absolutely laughable.
@saurabhdelft All of the those invasions were pre-WW2, our policies have changed (except for the Dominican Republic, which has during a time of heightened Communist fear, also Johnson was a moron). Actually we like India a lot more than Pakistan, so the only reason we probably help Pakistan is so they don't flip the fuck out. Our foreign policy is not all based on economic interests (some, but not all), and Afghanistan is not one of the ones based on that.
@saurabhdelft Um........actually we like Japan, South Korea more than China...thats why we have better trade agreements with them, we are extremely nervous about China. Also, we gave billions of arms to Taiwan to help and gave air craft carrier support to South Korea, WHEN THEY ASKED FOR IT. Capitalism is selfish, but that has nothing to do with foreign policy(capitalism is an economic practice, and selfishness is necessary). Also, that stance was taken 100 years ago, its not current
@saurabhdelft Israel is only illegal by the most Islamic standards, technically NATO and the UN decide legal status, and big shocker, Israel is legal. DIEGO GARCIA IS OWNED BY THE UK NOT THE US, THOSE ARE NOT THE SAME COUNTRIES! Wikileaks is a crime and one of the most terrible events to happen in the past 10 years, as it destroys potential for diplomacy. We killed prisoners, i admitted that, but that was not supported by the government, sometimes soldiers do illegal things, WE DON"T LIKE THAT!
@saurabhdelft Also, we don't purposely kill innocents, I don't know where you get this idea from because it is not an action condoned by the US Army. Your english on your first post was actually so bad that I didn't even understand the first part of it. It was gibberish. Many Iraqis support us, and yes everyone wants to take revenge against someone. Turkey and Greece hate each other. India and Pakistan. North and South Korea. Japan and China(sorta). France and UK(formerly) Rwanda/Burundi.
@saurabhdelft Actually, we have been trying to employ better rights, and they have outright rejected them....We care about Japan, Taiwan, South Africa, South America, Central America, Israel, Kuwait, Turkey, and South Korea as well. Thus, we helped Haiti a lot. Um, the Abu Ghraib prisoner situation was not actually condoned by the US government, so....what is your point. We helped when we found out and kicked out those soldiers, so we didn't know immediately, big whoop.
@saurabhdelft We have better human rights, just cause they are not perfect doesn't mean they aren't better, i.e. Women's rights, gay rights, racial equality, free speech, right to land ownership, and fair court system. Yea, China and other countries lack that.
@saurabhdelft Uh. the nukes sorta helped China, Korea, the Philippines, Russia, Vietnam, Cambodia, and most countries in Oceania, so yea it did help. The Twin Towers didn't help anyone and North Korea isn't helping anyone. We maintained the balance of power, they did not, thats called a strategic political and military maneuver. The world is different and politics are different, we may still remain the superpower for much longer.
@saurabhdelft That movie is primarily about the British crimes, not American. American officials' actions do not represent the entire nation. Thats a logical fallacy known as hasty generalization.
@saurabhdelft i believe India did, but iran doesn't. Atomic bombs are bad, but the one on Hiroshima wasn't. Japan attacked us and we didn't try to destroy an entire civilization, read your history, the bombs were used as an intimidation factor. Actually, you probably don't know exactly what they have done, you know what they want you to know. Iraq is actually better now, less deaths on average than before. We would be the superpower anyways, so that can't possibly be a motive.
@saurabhdelft I don't care about the UN, multipolarity blows. No, Iran doesn't have that right as it seems that they have expressed a wish to do something with them. Actually yes we did create the Taliban and now we are cleaning it up. Give me one good reason dropping the atomic bombs was bad. His method is outdated and irrelevant, that was the 70s, this is now. Nah, you obviously don't know much about CIA activities, and they were illegal by whose standards?
@saurabhdelft If we destabilize everywhere we go then the following countries would be dying or dead: Afghanistan Albania Algeria Antigua Argentina Australia Austria Azerbaijan Bahamas Bahrain Bangladesh Barbados Belgium Belize Bolivia Bosnia and Herzegovina Botswana Brazil Bulgaria Burma Burundi Cambodia Cameroon Canada Chad Chile China Colombia Congo Costa Rica Cote D'lvoire Cuba Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Djibouti
@saurabhdelft We did actually help that genocide, but whatever, believe that we didn't. Kissinger is another issue entirely and has nothing to do with our deployment in Afghanistan. Technically this argument boils down to whether Us presence in Afghanistan could be good, that doesn't mean moral by the way and it doesn't necessarily involve our official intentions.
@saurabhdelft We saved lives by dropping the nukes, and btw most the globe agrees with that decision, but whatever, be that one guy who thinks Japan should have won WW2. Um, actually Kim Jong Il is bat shit crazy and would have been a threat regardless and Russia created the North Korean state, so technically they created the threat.
@saurabhdelft Um, sorry, but whether or not thats the official US reason, our presence still does deter Indo-Pak escalation, so that argument is irrelevant. Actually we do have that right, its called Start and non-prolif treaty. Mass proliferation increases the chances of nuclear escalation. We are cutting back on our nuclear arsenal, so it is fair that others not build theirs up.
@saurabhdelft We wanted to intervene in the genocide because we are anti-genocide(I.e. the kurds, the jews). Actually Jews wanted to go there anyways, we were just trying to make sure they got there safer. Nah, Iran started that, not that I totally agree that we should have douchebags to the Palestinians, but still. Anyways, some US policies blow, but we are arguing about Afghanistan, which is a good choice to stay in.
@saurabhdelft Technically Gandhi caused tension between India and Pakistan, but whatever. FDR let Germany and Japan be built into some of the most modern countries in the world cause of WW2. Actually Enlightenment thinkers did want to employ those ideas, but whatever. YOU DID ANSWER WHY PAKISTAN WOULD INVADE AFGHANISTAN! You only answered a different question about Pakistan. First, Diego Gracia had no living inhabitants when Europeans got there, second, THE UK OWNS IT NOT THE USA!!!
@saurabhdelft Yep it has increased and now its on the brink. Any more will send it over the edge and this withdrawal will cause that. We don't want civil war at all, it sucks that you even think that. We are nervous about anything bad in Pakistan or India because of their nukes. There is no pull-out plan for Japan and South Korea, we are staying, we agreed to so with their leaders. South Korea has OPENLY STATED THAT THEY WANT US THERE TO HELP DETER NORTH KOREA.
@saurabhdelft HOW WILL PAKISTAN DEFEND AGAINST POLITICAL INSTABILITY OR TERRORIST FUNCTIONS? Or, as an alternate impact, why would they not seek to fill the power vacuum in Afghanistan?
@saurabhdelft Actually Afghanistan(Karzai), South Korea, and Japan like us there and would be pissed off royally if we left. Another country helped us with the gulf oil spill, and we REALLY wanted that. Our leader=Lincoln or FDR. Um, ok we support Israel because we founded it and agreed to support it from the get go. That wasn't what sorry meant in that sentence, haha study the english language more. Let me state it again, SORRY MEANT SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT SENTENCE.
@saurabhdelft Yea, but not eating meat doesn't anything at all. Um, Afghanistan won't solve anything, they have never, and likely never will, have a stable government capable of defending civil liberties. WE don't have that much military deployment in SE Asia anymore sorry, thats outdated. Military aid doesn't=arms necessarily(Also, Obama is a total fucking idiot) Actually we did use those ideas, technically many of the reforms needed in the 1700s were a result of nonviolent revolution.
@saurabhdelft Also, no our civilization has been prosperous for 600 years(Europe has our culture) and actually there have been many regional conflicts between growing empires in India. Even during Gandhi's time, there was much violence and he was shot. America isn't the country fighting over a little piece of territory known as Kashmir either. Gandhi didn't have Buddhist origins and had more European education than Indian. He got his views from his time in college in the UK.
@saurabhdelft Also, no our civilization has been prosperous for 600 years(Europe has our culture) and actually there have been many regional conflicts between growing empires in India. Even during Gandhi's time, there was much violence and he was shot. America isn't the country fighting over a little piece of territory known as Kashmir either. Gandhi didn't have Buddhist origins and had more European education than Indian. He got his views from his time in college in the UK.
@saurabhdelft Ok, but its so called "safeguards" actually don't protect against insurgency or POLITICAL instability, just out right military attack. We really don't give that many arms to Pakistan either, we give the most to Taiwan most likely. Also, India has been maimed by war and conflict over the past 200 years with their empires. Hinduism(not Buddhism) is the predominant religion in India and from the rest of the world's perspective promotes a ruthless class system, not peace.
@saurabhdelftUm, Martin Luther King Jr(Martin Luther led the Protestant Reformation). You answered the Pakistan argument, but then I produced a counter-argument that you have not answered. Ok, no more ethics then. I stand by Machiavelli, whose ideals have been incorporated into western culture(much more prosperous than Eastern culture since Renaissance). Also, Gandhi was likely inspired by Western events that he studied like the glorious revolution and workers' unions in England. Oops, response.
@saurabhdelft Telling one to grow up in America is also a sign of immaturity. You failed to answer by Pakistani instability argument yet again. You simply commented on my fact that you have the worst grasp of English that I have ever seen. I agree with you about American morals, however, "It is better to be feared than loved." -Machiavelli
@saurabhdelft Also, "more evident that you are so bragging about your 'knowledge' Dude learn one thing a learned never has need to show his intellect it is like a sun whose shine is its biggest proof of existence"
That is not even close to a coherent sentence in the English language. Talk about language affecting debate;it seems that you do not have a firm grasp of the English Language. Again, it doesn't matter, but with your arguments, it is hypocritical.
@saurabhdelft I am debating with a style called Policy used since the 1920s to address certain political/military/social needs. This form of debate is the most popular in the USA and you have failed to meet its standards. I am allowed to say this as it is part of the framework argument of this type of debate. You are stressing rhetoric, which has not been a relevant debate theory argument in 1st world countries since the 1800s, catch up with the rest of the world.
@saurabhdelft I only remarked about that because you made a cheap shot at it, as I am typically opposed to doing anything of the sort, and you also failed to answer Pakistan instability argument after I raised the point that Pakistan is inadequate with its military strength. Also, you did not answer my insurgents destabilize the political atmosphere as well. I have been in many debates and the judges always say dropped arguments=conceded arguments=loss.
@saurabhdelft Actually I am part of the debate community and that is not at all true, not in the USa, not in the UK, not in France, and not in Germany, (all are considered better in human rights and economic liberty/success then India) Um, this isn't a formal debate, so my language doesn't actually matter. Also, language is relative and proper use in one country is not the same as another. India doesn't=UK and doesn't equal USA. Thus, it is in fact a racist state to point that out.
@saurabhdelft I participate in debate involving withdrawal from Afghanistan as the core subject. I can argue both for and against it. I understand that not all Indians support it. Also, did you answer my Pakistani collapse argument, no. You have failed to answer my points and you concede my arguments, in the debate world thats called a loss. I hate American society and most Americans reject the war, so yea, I have obviously been brainwashed.
@saurabhdelft Yes, I am moron, one who understands the hybridization of ionic compounds and knows most of the major events in European history. I am stupid because I know the political situations in both the Koreas, Afghanistan, Iraq, Burundi, Brazil, Turkey, Serbia, and Kashmir. You have failed to answer my arguments, further proving my America was come out on top of India. I have taken English classes, but my language does not defeat my points.
@saurabhdelft The suicidal bombers are not the nation of Iraq you racist pig, those are terrorist groups operating in multiple countries. Actually experts around the globe believe that not only is the Pakistani government not adequate, but any more increased terrorist presence could destabilize the government of the country and leave loose nukes for the taking. Also, India supports our policy lolz.
@saurabhdelft Why is copying another country bad. Europe copied France and England for centuries. Many middle Eastern countries attempted to copy the Ottomans. Many East Asian countries have tried to copy China and many African countries have tried to copy Ethiopia(god knows why). We maintain world order now because we have grown stronger than the UK, remember slavery was abolished over a 100 years ago. You also never answered by Pakistani impact scenario, thats conceding a point.
@saurabhdelft Thats where you are wrong, I have won a debate unanimously after using course language. That is a logical fallacy known as faulty cause. I use foul words in my everyday speech, haha. I know that we funded the Taliban btw, but the question remains as to our policies now.
@saurabhdelft Um, the fact also remains that Pakistani instability->Nuke war or other alt scenarios or Chinese or Indian instability, which outweighs any impacts of a generation of terrorists bred in Afghanistan. Also, Us presence will solve that terrorism too. Also, Iraq cheered for the US when we took down Saddam.
@saurabhdelft WE are the Americans, that is who we are bitch. Sorry, not letting them take their time because collapse of the system could lead to Pakistani intervention, which could have huge ramifications. WE accepted it because the UK is awesome and we copied them back then.
@saurabhdelft Have your ever heard of being the hegemon? We are trying to maintain world order. You know what even if we were there to get power, who gives a shit? Its for the best anyways. If middle-east wants to show us that they can be independent, then create a sustainable government that does not violate human rights. We support israel, turkey, and kuwait, so Afghanistan show us yo moves. Once again, it wouldn't help our power if we won at all. Europe wouldn't care
@saurabhdelft Also, it wouldn't increase our power at all. Victory there will not increase soft power, sorry. Vietnam was about communism and was different. This war only matters if we lose, not if we win, so your argument is irrelevant.
@saurabhdelft You ignored my arguments about the impacts of withdrawal and thus, are trying to shift the subject that, either you don't know enough about, or are about to lose. An interesting tendency of the human mind. Well, while I wait for your response, first, Chile is now a first world country, one real complaints about our involvement. The fact is that America's best interest is honestly in the world's best interest. If someone thinks otherwise, then beat us on our own turf, bring it on.
Many of this could be stopped if the world would grow a set of balls and shut down the multiple sources of funding that comes from Palestinians and Saudi Arabians. Please read my postings in order they are posted to fully understand what is being said.
We must take proactive steps to win this war because from the troops on the ground this war along with the war with Iraq is too much like Vietnam. We must use all the tools we have to bring this war to a satisfactory end. The sad fact is that many of the banks we use as we go throughout our daily lives have active accounts that send funds to kill our brave young soldiers in the form of the weapons used to kill.
We taught the Taliban how to keep their financial infrastructure under the normal radar of the banking systems. While exploiting the system it is hiding from the Taliban do business in the open as local business and individuals that appear to go throughout the day transferring funds from legal accounts for legal reasons.
While war is truly hell for all those who go, we as citizens of respective countries who have troops fighting that we have sent them there to do the very things some may have trouble dealing with or wrapping it in a verbally pleasing term. I want all to understand that we have caused this by creating the monster that now plagues us as much as it did the Russians.
@saurabhdelft not really, no personal gains really. Nothing of fucking interest in that country sorry, not even oil so you can't make the Iraq argument. The fact is that no US presence leads to the collapse of the Karzai regime, the Taliban is too weak to form a reasonable government afterwards right now, so Pakistan or China attempts to fill the power vacuum. If Pakistan gets the power then it wins the stalemate against India, nuclear war imminent, thus presence solves. I await your responses.
This war is spiraling out of control, there are military forces from over 40 countries there fighting. To name a few the US., Canada, The UK., France, Germany, Austrailia, New Zealand, And many other countries. All we can do is hope the fighting comes to an end someday.
I know war seems glorious on tv and all but it really isn't. Seeing your buddies bleeding out is something nobody should have to go through. Combat is one of the scariest/most thrilling thing a human can experience. I would know. Ive been to Afghanitsan twice. Just hearing the bullets fly over you and knowing that everything can end in the blink of an eye is terrifying. Coming face to face with death is something no human being can dream of. The anticipation of death is scarier than death itself
@bry1888 The WMD scare was in Iraq, not Afghanistan. Also everyone else went in because my counry and your country are apart of a aliied force, so if one NATO country declares war on another country/ political group (and it is UN approved) everyone joins in,Victory by teamwork.
I support Canadian, British, American, and all NATO troops, aswell as all their missions.
@bry1888 Woah, you need to slow down there buddy, we are in this war together, UK, Canada, America, and all other NATO countries, and people like you are causing more negatives than positives.
By the way Im not saying this cause im Amreican, I am a Canadian, just saying you should support your allies.
Every American lost is a tragedy. But they signed up to defend liberty. Many have signed up after 9/11, with full knowledge that they would be over there fighting. Dont say you support the troops if you dont support the war.
@xxTARANISxx This is about British troops.It's not only U.S.. I'm British, my dad gets back in 9 days. Please realize there are British, French,Canadian, Australian,U.S. and my other counties included in the war.
We should have bombed the Taliban for allowing Al Qaeda to operate out of their country, but thats all. Al Qaeda members we could have hunted down here or there at any time, and in any country who didnt hand them over to us. Al Qaeda is a Saudi Arabian gang of fanatics who recruit other like fanatics against western societies. Its Al Qaeda that attacked us on 9/11, not Afghanistan, not Taliban and certainly not Iraq. We are over spending lives and money needlessly.
afghanistan is about proving a point... you fuck with us in our own borders, heads are gonna rolll. same with iraq.. maybe some piece of shit pakis will think twice about attacking us when we invade their nation, fuck their children and shoot thousands... fuck all those middle eastern shits... 1 american life is equal to a billion of them
USA is invading afghanistan for reasons stretigcal and economic reasons.
its right next door to iran, which makes it extremely convenient for the invasion of iran (2nd biggest oil reserves), and also is on the border with china, russia and india, giving the USA a massive sphere of influence and power in a region bordering other major powers.
They try and justify the war with ''winning hearts and minds'', when in reality they could wipe the ''insurgents'' out in days.
They will never win against those cowardly talibans they are hiding amongst citiezens, and plant bombs at roads and just sitt and wait, pathetic, i hope they get tired and nuke the shit.
Its not 'War WITH Afghanistan', its 'War IN Afganistan' as alot of the insurgents are foreigners and we aren't at war with the Afghan people, we're trying to give them stability and a country run safely and not under an evil dictatorship.
There are only five countries left without a Rothschild ("jewish") bank: Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Libya, and North Korea. Does that tell you anything? AMERICA, WHO'S YO DADDY? THE "JEWS"!!! Keep being retarded.
phucoff1, I just wish "guys" like you could be REAL men FOR JUST ONE DAY!! You have NOT ONE original thought in your head. You depend on America's mostly "jewish" media to tell you what to think. You're a pathetic example of what an American man is. In a democratic society or a constitutional republic you have A DUTY to make yourself informed. You do that by actually investigating these matters, not just sitting back like a baby and allowing yourself to be spoonfed. BE A MAN, MY GOD!
I'm not American and i assume you dont like Jews? Seeing as how you clearly dont like Jews, your retarded mind is made up of paranoia conspiracy theories, prick.
You're retarded if you defend people who are clearly your worst enemies. You can verify that by reading the talmud, the "jewish holy book." Nonjews were put on this earth to be used by the "jew" and to serve him. That's what they believe.
Robert Fowler Canadian Hero and longest serving ambassador to the UN who was kidnapped by Al Qaeda for 5 months.
"We are simply not prepared to foot the massive price in blood and treasure, which it would take to effectively colonize Afghanistan and replace their culture with ours, for that seems to be what we seek.
@phucoff1, That's bullshit and you know it. The original goal in Afghanistan was to find Osama Bin Laden, but no dice. We are now just chasing ghosts with no clearly defined goal.
@esh325 U right , only ghosts and thatt's it. So first, we saved the Iraquis by killing them, and now we are killing the afghans by killing them too. Now there are talks about Pakistan. At this rate spending 6 billion per country, we are doing just fine!
@esh325 USA is invading afghanistan for stretigcal and economic reasons.
its next door to iran, making it convenient for invasion of iran (2nd biggest oil reserves), and also borders china, russia and india, giving USA massive influence and power in a region bordering major powers.
They try justify the war with 'winning hearts and minds', when in reality they could wipe the ''insurgents'' out in days.... Bindladen and ''terrorists'' are just a pathetic excuse engineered for the initial invasion
Stupid Americans helped Talibs to battle to Russian soldiers in Afghanistan. Now the history has put all into place. Now your country will take burning in Afghanistan. Now you already ask us about the help because you are killed the weapon which by you delivered to Afghanistan against Russian.
The aim of the US bases in Afghanistan is to target and be able to strike at the two nations which today represent the only combined threat in the world today to an American global imperium, to Americas Full Spectrum Dominance as the Pentagon terms it.
The aim of those bases is not to eradicate any Al Qaeda cells that may have survived in the caves of Tora Bora, or to eradicate a mythical Taliban which at this point according to eyewitness reports is made up overwhelmingly of local ordinary Afghanis fighting to rid their land once more of occupier armies as they did in the 1980s against the Russians.
The second reason the US military remains in Afghanistan long after the world has forgotten even who the mysterious Osama bin Laden and his alleged Al Qaeda terrorist organization is or even if they exist, is as a pretext to build a permanent US military strike force with a series of permanent US airbases across Afghanistan.
One good thing about the war is its stopped the heroin. Afghanistan was the main place this stuff was produced, which has been screwing up peoples lives all over the world for years.
I think you need a reality check. the Tliban stopped the Heroin trade as they are fundamentalist muslims. The war brought back the Heroin trade in record numbers. Suggest catching up on your facts.
It has been documented that Washington hand-picked the controversial Hamid Karzai, a Pashtun warlord from the Popalzai tribe, long in the CIAs service, brought him back from exile in the USA, created a Hollywood mythology around his courageous leadership of his people. According to Afghan sources, Karzai is the Opium Godfather of Afghanistan today. There is apparently no accident that he was and is today still Washingtons preferred man in Kabul.
what program did you use to make this video? me and my friend is doing a projekt about Afghanistan
nicknamer123 3 months ago
mi chiedo di quale utilità sia continuare a combattere mentre i servizi segreti americani , dopo aver inscenato la finta dipartita di osama bin laden , stanno trattando in modo serrato con in vari capi talebani una soluzione che permetta aglin stessi di entrare a far parte del cosidetto governo democratico afghano ...
benitobottazzi 8 months ago
thank you for the footage. the music is too loud.
pita92 9 months ago
i cannot even start to imagine what it is really like to be in combat....
iheartbeauty95 9 months ago
dude this is cool but to lound athor than that is chill
greenangel2468 1 year ago
MUSIC IS TOO LOUD.
WHAT IS THIS ? MTV? OR A F'ING WAR?
SHOW SOME RESPECT.
231171 1 year ago 2
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mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I'll just correct grammar now:
THE beginning*
falling to THE ground*
so DOES this*
I WILL continue*
Now is you ARE like a kid AND stick to them, well*
I HAVE shown*
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mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Well, actually Taliban numbers have decreased....Anyways, your consistent inability to answer my uniqueness or link shows that you are unable to debate in a formal sense. There is no reason to continue this unless you can come up with reasonable non-unique, no-link, or case turn arguments on Allied Prolif or Debt Ceiling rather than making a tiny bit of only impact defense and claims that deny practical fact about both Proliferation or hitting the debt ceiling. Good day
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft No, I just think that a video series is not as credible as a person's written works. I never said they blew because they denounce America haha, but nice try. I don't care what the Afghanis think because it is not essential for the mission, I'm not trying to solve Afghanistan, just my advantages and by extension their impacts. Counter-Terrorism solves Taliban by using DIRECT FORCE to scare the citizens enough, plus the Taliban can only take over if we leave.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Credibility applies to nations in East Asia, some parts of Africa, and some parts of South America and Europe, not the Muslim world. You are creating a straw target, credibility is not regional, its international. Can you name the way that the Israel argument interacts with the practical results of the war in Afghanistan. Like, explicitly state them
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Think Tanks mostly support one view, or if they show both, they prefer one, what think tanks are you talking about? Also, you are not Jesus, stop acting like you are making a huge difference. India is still our ally, they still support our occupation of Afghanistan, obviously you are failing. Also, those videos blow sorry.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Also, there is no such thing as fact in that field, experts have only to do with theory. What facts do you have? That Israel was a bad move, nope thats opinion. That we want to cause civil war, nope thats opinion. Debate is an argument of founded opinions. Um, actually Japan has openly said it would develop nukes and can develop nukes if our security guarantees don't hold up. South Korea will follow. Um, the answer about default is a claim without warrant, so not an argument
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft The only reason I am denouncing your arguments is that I have judged debates a lot. You would be losing because you have no offense on the flow and no defense for the foundations of arguments as well as failing to support claims with warrants. You have failed the most basic aspects of forming an argument and debating. Then you will say something along the line that "that is only your definition", no, thats the standard model for debate. Meet it or forfeit
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft When did you answer the uniqueness or link to my debt ceiling argument, you have played light impact defense, but I still win risk of my advantage giving me ground. Same with allied prolif, no uniqueness or link arguments and no offense on the arguments either. Israel is about morality, i am talking about practicality, what about this do you not understand? Honestly, you are obsessed with Israel because you think it is the whole Earth. ITS NOT.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft You are misunderstanding credibility, it is the US credibility with the world. You have no idea what im talking about clearly by your response, which doesn't even make a lick of sense. Debt Ceiling has nothing to do with WMDS, Allied Prolif has to do with nations that don't have WMDs, but could have them, i.e. South Korea/Japan. Israel has nothing to do with credibility, thats morality and a different issue entirely.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft You don't know what HDI is because it cannot wreck a country because it is a measurement of Human Development. I don't understand how you can speak to college students without even a basic knowledge of the world. That is frightening. I like how your word defies international studies, think tank organizations, world leaders, professors of major institutions, economists, and nobel prize winners. YOU MUST BE THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE!
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Why is Allied Prolif unfounded, it is supported by the theory that extended deterrence creates an incentive for nations to not need weapons. Withdrawal weakens that guarantee, thus, it makes them need to prolif. There, thats the foundation. Um, they have not grown when America defauted because WE HAVE NEVER DEFAULTED, that means TOTAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, TOTAL. Um, no, most economists agree that the US economy is key to the global economy.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft YIPPIE, you found an English video that supports no imperialism, thats like 90% of English videos by psychotic liberals, CONGRATS! The media is not where I am getting information, and also, can you give an exact author that rights that this is true. Um, you do know that in a debate you have to answer my counter arguments and i have flipped through the conversation and yes, you answered both of those arguments, but HAVE NOT ANSWERED THE COUNTER-ARGUMENTS! Answer those.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Credibility applies to the international community as does appeasement, it has no specific link to Pakistan. Yes, and Pakistani professors have a super great track record and so does India, o wait, your HDI is like a third of ours and Pakistan's is like one eighth. There are some good institutions in India, i do admit, but for the most part, the education is shit. Still failed to point out where you answered allied prolif and you dropped debt ceiling. Conceding a plenty.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I never said you exaggerated, i said that you said my arguments are exaggerated, nice command of my language cunty mctwat. Lol also cannot be a noun. We would care because nuclear war there affects all of us, you failed to answer that and my we ally to stop fights, but whatever. Actually nuclear war impacts outweigh the few people suffering, haha you don't understand impacts. Great arguments tho. Actually, some would happen to me if we left, my bones would turn to dust.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Also, extend my argument that China is no longer the greatest potential competitor for hegemon, India is, China will plateau because of the one child system. We still trade heavily with China and actually would be up shit creek without a paddle if they were annihilated.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Hegemony is the argument that staying in Afghanistan increases our credibility, which increases soft power and prevents us from falling into the trap of appeasement. WE DON'T WANT CIVIL WAR. Honestly, where is our author, or are you, the mighty man from youtube just claiming this. We have allied with Pakistan and India both because we like India as an ally, and for the purpose that they don't blow each other off the map. Nuclear war hurts the whole globe.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Actually McChyrstal didn't really tell the truth, you are failing at American knowledge, he attempted to get relieved by being purposefully controversial because Obama is an idiot. Even if we stopped all of those things, we would still hit the debt ceiling by the end of the summer, sorry. You said that Allied Prolif is just an exaggeration, but give no warrant and thus this is an irrelevant argument. I don't care WHY we are in Afghanistan, i just care about the results.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Because it wouldn't do anything, plus I already answered why we don't leave Afghanistan with all of my major argument points.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Can you point out how to responded to my most recent counter-arguments on Allied Prolif, Power Vacuum, or Heg, cause you didn't. Don't just say you did, point out where and what you said.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Um, if we lowered all social services, hitting the debt ceiling would still make us default, you don't seem to understand the mentality of foreign and domestic investors. If we left all foreign countries, every single one (even the ones that we just supply food to) we would still hit the debt ceiling in June. McChrystal is also no longer our general, we was relieved of his duties, epic failure. Petraus is the current general.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft The debt ceiling argument has nothing to do with imperialism, its about American politics and it affects the entire globe through US economic collapse leads to global economic collapse. You don't seem to understand how to argue, yes you have argued all of those points, but I have responded to your answers, and now you have to answer back. We don't want Pak instability, where is your author? China won't be the largest growing country, India will be, and we support them.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I am justifying the occupation by saying it solves Pak instability, great power vacuums (still have yet to answer the LATEST argument), debt ceiling, heg, and allied prolif. Intentions don't really matter at this point, results do, impacts outweigh uniqueness. Even if they are imperialistic, which i'm not saying they are, that in no way takes out my arguments about the benefits. You neglect clash, which is a up hill battle to start with.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I'm not arguing that America is morally right to do, but rather that it is practical. The practicality varies by location, do you honestly not understand the difference? I really don't care if America is being unethical, the fact is that it works and is helping everyone. NO YOU CANNOT FIND AUTHORS AGAINST DEBT CEILING. Last time we hit it, we lost a billion dollars in a day. I'm sorry, but you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Pro-debt ceiling>anti 1000 to 1
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft O, and Heg good
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I can list more authors if needed, I have probably about 1000, thats not an exaggeration and i have their entire articles. North Korea is no longer backed by China, look at recent events involving the attack, China now holds South Korea as a more valuable trader partner. The economic system will not change if we hit the debt ceiling, it is explode and make us default and then the world economy goes in the toilet. Bad economic times lead to war.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Yeo, the foreign minister of Singapore, Tellis 08 Senior Associate of Carnegie Institute Endowment for International Peace and Research director of the Strategic Asia Program.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I don't care about American ethics or double standards in this debate, as I am debating policy, not philosophy. I am looking for real tangible results, not ethical bullshit, thus Israel is irrelevant. Many of my authors are from India, China, Iraq, South Korea, Japan, in fact, only the debt ceiling authors are mostly from those countries(sorta cause they have to be). Authors=Carla Norrlof, Associate Professor of Political Science, Singh, an author from the Strait TImes. hold on
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft On to allied prolif, you answered this wrong and saw existed arms races as my impacts, but my impacts are arms races with countries that do not currently want nukes, like Japan or South Korea, which would cause tensions in the area. The only reason I'm advocating America's self image is that it prevents these impacts. On to debt ceiling, you didn't answer my uniqueness, link, or impact, I explained how domestic policy spills over to the global, you failed to answer this.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft No, but Diego Garcia and Israel do not have anything to do with Afghanistan, so I really don't care, you win those arguments fine. That doesn't help your case against by disadvantages of withdrawal. Right, you can send those experts and then I can do author indicts because I have already argued against the people you will name, my authors are from many different countries, not just America.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft You didn't really respond to them, as you made claims without warrant or data and that is not an argument, that is a third of an argument. No destabilization to the point of loose nukes or complete collapse is what I meant. I do not advocate leaving Afghanistan, I advocate staying and if that means collateral damage or a cost of men, it is the cost of waging a daring war. We started the war, now we are committed to it.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Right, work with commitment or reorient the strategy, so you agree?
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Right, but we have been there for 9 years with COIN and no destabilization. We have been there for even longer with other strategies. Also, what is your answer to allied prolif and debt ceiling?
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Right, but theres no impact thus it has no effect. I have not proclaimed myself winner yet, i have simply said you dropped arguments and made mistakes, thats how you debate. You are being arrogant in your claims that I have claimed victory. The arguments had nothing to do with Afghanistan policy and had no impacts and thus have no weight. They are about ethics, this is policy, come back with links and impacts and the arguments will be weighed.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft They don't support you at all and you give no warrants to either claim, each argument is baseless without reason. I mean its not like you can disprove expert opinion without actually doing any sort of work whatsoever.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft If we truly give all of those arms, then the impact of destabilization should be Pak collapse, which leads to loose nukes. This has not happened, therefore there is no point to your argument and you did not play defense against my case arguments, therefore your point is null and concede my offense
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I did explain the Allied Prolif and Debt Ceiling arguments in my post below. Its a few posts down, you may have missed it, but anyways, my words not disprove my arguments or negate them. We do not encourage drug production, but rather have a team of anti-opium soldiers in COIN. Um, your argument about us giving arms to Pakistan and local warlords should have already triggered by impact, therefore it has no link and does not give you ground in the debate.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Alright, but you still didn't answer anything about Afghanistan and thus, due to this, you do actually admit that US occupation is a good thing and leaving would be disastrous. You see, that the allied prolif and debt ceiling arguments are not actually biased and our occupation of Afghanistan is for the benefit of ALL of mankind. I am making a difference in something called policy, this type of debate breeds the future leaders and politicians of the world. The world needs leaders.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Ok, i do concede that, but you access no impacts with this, so its irrelevant to the debate hahahahha. I really could care less because it doesn't take out my inherency, solvency, or my advantages to staying in Afghanistan
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Allied prolif is the thought that if we withdraw then it signals a weakness of our extended deterrence security guarantees and allies begin to proliferate nuclear weapons, which in turn sparks arms races and terrible war escalation. Debt Ceiling is a political scenario in which the Tea Party gets pissed off because of having to deal with foreign policy and they vote against raising the debt ceiling, which leads to economic collapse and worldwide turmoil
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft There is measure to the amount of it actually, thats how people evaluate country stability and human development hahaha. Um, China and Russia and India are also at issue of power vacuum. Alright I will explain the arguments
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I could really care less about winning the hearts and minds of the people, its for their own good anyways. Um, I do have those rights because the Taliban has a larger percentage and human rights violations, but whatever, you still did not address the issue, that is that the war will stop Power Vacuums, the countries involved in these power vacuums are mostly not Muslim, and you didn't answer the allied prolif or debt ceiling argument, thus you concede.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft No, they really aren't, I'm arguing for the positive effects of the war in Afghanistan. Even the US doesn't intend it, we have positive effects in Afghanistan and by staying in we prevent allied proliferation and allow the debt ceiling bill to pass (explanations if you would like) and it would prevent great power vacuums, which you have still failed to answer. I honestly could care less about Diego Garcia, and Israel is another topic entirely. This is about Afghanistan
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Yes, the government in Pakistan that you said we funded, oops thats a double bind and you destroy both your arguments, your bad. Who should we give the island back to, it was uninhabited when settled. Those aren't Arabs in Afghanistan, they're mostly Pashtuns, and many of the people of the region, including Afghani residents and India and Pakistan like us being there. WE ARE NOT ARGUING ISRAEL, WE ARE ARGUING AFGHANISTAN, THESE ARE DIFFERENT ISSUES ENTIRELY.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I hate the UN, but still, my point is that world organizations consider Israel a fully legal states. The UN is shitty. Um, actually look it up, the UK still owns Diego Garcia buddy, we don't have our hands on it, haha you fail. Who says Israel is illegal, the muslim states? HHAHAHAHAHAHHA, they are stuck in the 1600s and you take their word over the word of most of the Americas and Europe (and Turkey). That is absolutely laughable.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft All of the those invasions were pre-WW2, our policies have changed (except for the Dominican Republic, which has during a time of heightened Communist fear, also Johnson was a moron). Actually we like India a lot more than Pakistan, so the only reason we probably help Pakistan is so they don't flip the fuck out. Our foreign policy is not all based on economic interests (some, but not all), and Afghanistan is not one of the ones based on that.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Um........actually we like Japan, South Korea more than China...thats why we have better trade agreements with them, we are extremely nervous about China. Also, we gave billions of arms to Taiwan to help and gave air craft carrier support to South Korea, WHEN THEY ASKED FOR IT. Capitalism is selfish, but that has nothing to do with foreign policy(capitalism is an economic practice, and selfishness is necessary). Also, that stance was taken 100 years ago, its not current
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Israel is only illegal by the most Islamic standards, technically NATO and the UN decide legal status, and big shocker, Israel is legal. DIEGO GARCIA IS OWNED BY THE UK NOT THE US, THOSE ARE NOT THE SAME COUNTRIES! Wikileaks is a crime and one of the most terrible events to happen in the past 10 years, as it destroys potential for diplomacy. We killed prisoners, i admitted that, but that was not supported by the government, sometimes soldiers do illegal things, WE DON"T LIKE THAT!
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Also, we don't purposely kill innocents, I don't know where you get this idea from because it is not an action condoned by the US Army. Your english on your first post was actually so bad that I didn't even understand the first part of it. It was gibberish. Many Iraqis support us, and yes everyone wants to take revenge against someone. Turkey and Greece hate each other. India and Pakistan. North and South Korea. Japan and China(sorta). France and UK(formerly) Rwanda/Burundi.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Actually, we have been trying to employ better rights, and they have outright rejected them....We care about Japan, Taiwan, South Africa, South America, Central America, Israel, Kuwait, Turkey, and South Korea as well. Thus, we helped Haiti a lot. Um, the Abu Ghraib prisoner situation was not actually condoned by the US government, so....what is your point. We helped when we found out and kicked out those soldiers, so we didn't know immediately, big whoop.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft We have better human rights, just cause they are not perfect doesn't mean they aren't better, i.e. Women's rights, gay rights, racial equality, free speech, right to land ownership, and fair court system. Yea, China and other countries lack that.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Uh. the nukes sorta helped China, Korea, the Philippines, Russia, Vietnam, Cambodia, and most countries in Oceania, so yea it did help. The Twin Towers didn't help anyone and North Korea isn't helping anyone. We maintained the balance of power, they did not, thats called a strategic political and military maneuver. The world is different and politics are different, we may still remain the superpower for much longer.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft That movie is primarily about the British crimes, not American. American officials' actions do not represent the entire nation. Thats a logical fallacy known as hasty generalization.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft i believe India did, but iran doesn't. Atomic bombs are bad, but the one on Hiroshima wasn't. Japan attacked us and we didn't try to destroy an entire civilization, read your history, the bombs were used as an intimidation factor. Actually, you probably don't know exactly what they have done, you know what they want you to know. Iraq is actually better now, less deaths on average than before. We would be the superpower anyways, so that can't possibly be a motive.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
why have stupied music we cant hear what hes sayin
MMADMICK 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft All of the countries that the CIA had involvement that you listed are now much better countries with a higher HDI, aka chile/argentina.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I don't care about the UN, multipolarity blows. No, Iran doesn't have that right as it seems that they have expressed a wish to do something with them. Actually yes we did create the Taliban and now we are cleaning it up. Give me one good reason dropping the atomic bombs was bad. His method is outdated and irrelevant, that was the 70s, this is now. Nah, you obviously don't know much about CIA activities, and they were illegal by whose standards?
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft We did actually help that genocide, but whatever, believe that we didn't. Kissinger is another issue entirely and has nothing to do with our deployment in Afghanistan. Technically this argument boils down to whether Us presence in Afghanistan could be good, that doesn't mean moral by the way and it doesn't necessarily involve our official intentions.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft We saved lives by dropping the nukes, and btw most the globe agrees with that decision, but whatever, be that one guy who thinks Japan should have won WW2. Um, actually Kim Jong Il is bat shit crazy and would have been a threat regardless and Russia created the North Korean state, so technically they created the threat.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Um, sorry, but whether or not thats the official US reason, our presence still does deter Indo-Pak escalation, so that argument is irrelevant. Actually we do have that right, its called Start and non-prolif treaty. Mass proliferation increases the chances of nuclear escalation. We are cutting back on our nuclear arsenal, so it is fair that others not build theirs up.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft We wanted to intervene in the genocide because we are anti-genocide(I.e. the kurds, the jews). Actually Jews wanted to go there anyways, we were just trying to make sure they got there safer. Nah, Iran started that, not that I totally agree that we should have douchebags to the Palestinians, but still. Anyways, some US policies blow, but we are arguing about Afghanistan, which is a good choice to stay in.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Technically Gandhi caused tension between India and Pakistan, but whatever. FDR let Germany and Japan be built into some of the most modern countries in the world cause of WW2. Actually Enlightenment thinkers did want to employ those ideas, but whatever. YOU DID ANSWER WHY PAKISTAN WOULD INVADE AFGHANISTAN! You only answered a different question about Pakistan. First, Diego Gracia had no living inhabitants when Europeans got there, second, THE UK OWNS IT NOT THE USA!!!
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Yep it has increased and now its on the brink. Any more will send it over the edge and this withdrawal will cause that. We don't want civil war at all, it sucks that you even think that. We are nervous about anything bad in Pakistan or India because of their nukes. There is no pull-out plan for Japan and South Korea, we are staying, we agreed to so with their leaders. South Korea has OPENLY STATED THAT THEY WANT US THERE TO HELP DETER NORTH KOREA.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft HOW WILL PAKISTAN DEFEND AGAINST POLITICAL INSTABILITY OR TERRORIST FUNCTIONS? Or, as an alternate impact, why would they not seek to fill the power vacuum in Afghanistan?
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Actually Afghanistan(Karzai), South Korea, and Japan like us there and would be pissed off royally if we left. Another country helped us with the gulf oil spill, and we REALLY wanted that. Our leader=Lincoln or FDR. Um, ok we support Israel because we founded it and agreed to support it from the get go. That wasn't what sorry meant in that sentence, haha study the english language more. Let me state it again, SORRY MEANT SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT SENTENCE.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Churchill wasn't living during the time of the Enlightenment, but ok sure.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Yea, but not eating meat doesn't anything at all. Um, Afghanistan won't solve anything, they have never, and likely never will, have a stable government capable of defending civil liberties. WE don't have that much military deployment in SE Asia anymore sorry, thats outdated. Military aid doesn't=arms necessarily(Also, Obama is a total fucking idiot) Actually we did use those ideas, technically many of the reforms needed in the 1700s were a result of nonviolent revolution.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Also, no our civilization has been prosperous for 600 years(Europe has our culture) and actually there have been many regional conflicts between growing empires in India. Even during Gandhi's time, there was much violence and he was shot. America isn't the country fighting over a little piece of territory known as Kashmir either. Gandhi didn't have Buddhist origins and had more European education than Indian. He got his views from his time in college in the UK.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Also, no our civilization has been prosperous for 600 years(Europe has our culture) and actually there have been many regional conflicts between growing empires in India. Even during Gandhi's time, there was much violence and he was shot. America isn't the country fighting over a little piece of territory known as Kashmir either. Gandhi didn't have Buddhist origins and had more European education than Indian. He got his views from his time in college in the UK.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Ok, but its so called "safeguards" actually don't protect against insurgency or POLITICAL instability, just out right military attack. We really don't give that many arms to Pakistan either, we give the most to Taiwan most likely. Also, India has been maimed by war and conflict over the past 200 years with their empires. Hinduism(not Buddhism) is the predominant religion in India and from the rest of the world's perspective promotes a ruthless class system, not peace.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelftUm, Martin Luther King Jr(Martin Luther led the Protestant Reformation). You answered the Pakistan argument, but then I produced a counter-argument that you have not answered. Ok, no more ethics then. I stand by Machiavelli, whose ideals have been incorporated into western culture(much more prosperous than Eastern culture since Renaissance). Also, Gandhi was likely inspired by Western events that he studied like the glorious revolution and workers' unions in England. Oops, response.
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mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Telling one to grow up in America is also a sign of immaturity. You failed to answer by Pakistani instability argument yet again. You simply commented on my fact that you have the worst grasp of English that I have ever seen. I agree with you about American morals, however, "It is better to be feared than loved." -Machiavelli
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Also, "more evident that you are so bragging about your 'knowledge' Dude learn one thing a learned never has need to show his intellect it is like a sun whose shine is its biggest proof of existence"
That is not even close to a coherent sentence in the English language. Talk about language affecting debate;it seems that you do not have a firm grasp of the English Language. Again, it doesn't matter, but with your arguments, it is hypocritical.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I am debating with a style called Policy used since the 1920s to address certain political/military/social needs. This form of debate is the most popular in the USA and you have failed to meet its standards. I am allowed to say this as it is part of the framework argument of this type of debate. You are stressing rhetoric, which has not been a relevant debate theory argument in 1st world countries since the 1800s, catch up with the rest of the world.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I only remarked about that because you made a cheap shot at it, as I am typically opposed to doing anything of the sort, and you also failed to answer Pakistan instability argument after I raised the point that Pakistan is inadequate with its military strength. Also, you did not answer my insurgents destabilize the political atmosphere as well. I have been in many debates and the judges always say dropped arguments=conceded arguments=loss.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Actually I am part of the debate community and that is not at all true, not in the USa, not in the UK, not in France, and not in Germany, (all are considered better in human rights and economic liberty/success then India) Um, this isn't a formal debate, so my language doesn't actually matter. Also, language is relative and proper use in one country is not the same as another. India doesn't=UK and doesn't equal USA. Thus, it is in fact a racist state to point that out.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft I participate in debate involving withdrawal from Afghanistan as the core subject. I can argue both for and against it. I understand that not all Indians support it. Also, did you answer my Pakistani collapse argument, no. You have failed to answer my points and you concede my arguments, in the debate world thats called a loss. I hate American society and most Americans reject the war, so yea, I have obviously been brainwashed.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Yes, I am moron, one who understands the hybridization of ionic compounds and knows most of the major events in European history. I am stupid because I know the political situations in both the Koreas, Afghanistan, Iraq, Burundi, Brazil, Turkey, Serbia, and Kashmir. You have failed to answer my arguments, further proving my America was come out on top of India. I have taken English classes, but my language does not defeat my points.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft The suicidal bombers are not the nation of Iraq you racist pig, those are terrorist groups operating in multiple countries. Actually experts around the globe believe that not only is the Pakistani government not adequate, but any more increased terrorist presence could destabilize the government of the country and leave loose nukes for the taking. Also, India supports our policy lolz.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Why is copying another country bad. Europe copied France and England for centuries. Many middle Eastern countries attempted to copy the Ottomans. Many East Asian countries have tried to copy China and many African countries have tried to copy Ethiopia(god knows why). We maintain world order now because we have grown stronger than the UK, remember slavery was abolished over a 100 years ago. You also never answered by Pakistani impact scenario, thats conceding a point.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Thats where you are wrong, I have won a debate unanimously after using course language. That is a logical fallacy known as faulty cause. I use foul words in my everyday speech, haha. I know that we funded the Taliban btw, but the question remains as to our policies now.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Um, the fact also remains that Pakistani instability->Nuke war or other alt scenarios or Chinese or Indian instability, which outweighs any impacts of a generation of terrorists bred in Afghanistan. Also, Us presence will solve that terrorism too. Also, Iraq cheered for the US when we took down Saddam.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft WE are the Americans, that is who we are bitch. Sorry, not letting them take their time because collapse of the system could lead to Pakistani intervention, which could have huge ramifications. WE accepted it because the UK is awesome and we copied them back then.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Actually it was partially inspired by the UK and France. Also, the Middle East has been stunted in growth since the Enlightenment.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Also, we use COIN, so we are clearly interested in building it up, even though I think we shouldn't do that at all
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Have your ever heard of being the hegemon? We are trying to maintain world order. You know what even if we were there to get power, who gives a shit? Its for the best anyways. If middle-east wants to show us that they can be independent, then create a sustainable government that does not violate human rights. We support israel, turkey, and kuwait, so Afghanistan show us yo moves. Once again, it wouldn't help our power if we won at all. Europe wouldn't care
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft Also, it wouldn't increase our power at all. Victory there will not increase soft power, sorry. Vietnam was about communism and was different. This war only matters if we lose, not if we win, so your argument is irrelevant.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft You ignored my arguments about the impacts of withdrawal and thus, are trying to shift the subject that, either you don't know enough about, or are about to lose. An interesting tendency of the human mind. Well, while I wait for your response, first, Chile is now a first world country, one real complaints about our involvement. The fact is that America's best interest is honestly in the world's best interest. If someone thinks otherwise, then beat us on our own turf, bring it on.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
Many of this could be stopped if the world would grow a set of balls and shut down the multiple sources of funding that comes from Palestinians and Saudi Arabians. Please read my postings in order they are posted to fully understand what is being said.
OvidBrianBruce123 1 year ago
We must take proactive steps to win this war because from the troops on the ground this war along with the war with Iraq is too much like Vietnam. We must use all the tools we have to bring this war to a satisfactory end. The sad fact is that many of the banks we use as we go throughout our daily lives have active accounts that send funds to kill our brave young soldiers in the form of the weapons used to kill.
OvidBrianBruce123 1 year ago
We taught the Taliban how to keep their financial infrastructure under the normal radar of the banking systems. While exploiting the system it is hiding from the Taliban do business in the open as local business and individuals that appear to go throughout the day transferring funds from legal accounts for legal reasons.
OvidBrianBruce123 1 year ago
While war is truly hell for all those who go, we as citizens of respective countries who have troops fighting that we have sent them there to do the very things some may have trouble dealing with or wrapping it in a verbally pleasing term. I want all to understand that we have caused this by creating the monster that now plagues us as much as it did the Russians.
OvidBrianBruce123 1 year ago
@saurabhdelft not really, no personal gains really. Nothing of fucking interest in that country sorry, not even oil so you can't make the Iraq argument. The fact is that no US presence leads to the collapse of the Karzai regime, the Taliban is too weak to form a reasonable government afterwards right now, so Pakistan or China attempts to fill the power vacuum. If Pakistan gets the power then it wins the stalemate against India, nuclear war imminent, thus presence solves. I await your responses.
mydogdaisy1212 1 year ago
This war is spiraling out of control, there are military forces from over 40 countries there fighting. To name a few the US., Canada, The UK., France, Germany, Austrailia, New Zealand, And many other countries. All we can do is hope the fighting comes to an end someday.
andrewdemello 1 year ago
is there any good war movies in afghanistan?
gunsblazin1000 1 year ago
@gunsblazin1000 9th company :)
plym0uth2 1 year ago
RESPECT THE ARMED FORCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
andrew1bradley 1 year ago
fix the name to war in afganistan
i do not put music in it ty
BloodshotxxAP 1 year ago
was there any need for the music
cjcjx1 1 year ago
Are those reg. army or royal commandos?
Kilo2Bravo 1 year ago
I know war seems glorious on tv and all but it really isn't. Seeing your buddies bleeding out is something nobody should have to go through. Combat is one of the scariest/most thrilling thing a human can experience. I would know. Ive been to Afghanitsan twice. Just hearing the bullets fly over you and knowing that everything can end in the blink of an eye is terrifying. Coming face to face with death is something no human being can dream of. The anticipation of death is scarier than death itself
SIzemore3434 1 year ago 2
@bry1888 The WMD scare was in Iraq, not Afghanistan. Also everyone else went in because my counry and your country are apart of a aliied force, so if one NATO country declares war on another country/ political group (and it is UN approved) everyone joins in,Victory by teamwork.
I support Canadian, British, American, and all NATO troops, aswell as all their missions.
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 1 year ago
@bry1888 Woah, you need to slow down there buddy, we are in this war together, UK, Canada, America, and all other NATO countries, and people like you are causing more negatives than positives.
By the way Im not saying this cause im Amreican, I am a Canadian, just saying you should support your allies.
zazszdzfzgzhzjzkzlzx 1 year ago
Every American lost is a tragedy. But they signed up to defend liberty. Many have signed up after 9/11, with full knowledge that they would be over there fighting. Dont say you support the troops if you dont support the war.
Liberty for ALL.
-Taranis
xxTARANISxx 1 year ago 3
@xxTARANISxx Why every American? Why not every soldier lost is a tradegy?
Darkzeven66 1 year ago 2
@xxTARANISxx This is about British troops.It's not only U.S.. I'm British, my dad gets back in 9 days. Please realize there are British, French,Canadian, Australian,U.S. and my other counties included in the war.
bxsskull 1 year ago
We should have bombed the Taliban for allowing Al Qaeda to operate out of their country, but thats all. Al Qaeda members we could have hunted down here or there at any time, and in any country who didnt hand them over to us. Al Qaeda is a Saudi Arabian gang of fanatics who recruit other like fanatics against western societies. Its Al Qaeda that attacked us on 9/11, not Afghanistan, not Taliban and certainly not Iraq. We are over spending lives and money needlessly.
fudgedogbannana 1 year ago
afghanistan is about proving a point... you fuck with us in our own borders, heads are gonna rolll. same with iraq.. maybe some piece of shit pakis will think twice about attacking us when we invade their nation, fuck their children and shoot thousands... fuck all those middle eastern shits... 1 american life is equal to a billion of them
bluntzondamoon 1 year ago
@bluntzondamoon You are not very intelligent are you?
WormClark 1 year ago
am i supposed to feel sad i mean the music sucked and they r British lol
HlLL21 1 year ago
USA is invading afghanistan for reasons stretigcal and economic reasons.
its right next door to iran, which makes it extremely convenient for the invasion of iran (2nd biggest oil reserves), and also is on the border with china, russia and india, giving the USA a massive sphere of influence and power in a region bordering other major powers.
They try and justify the war with ''winning hearts and minds'', when in reality they could wipe the ''insurgents'' out in days.
benhoshinji 1 year ago
The easy way out is call The United States Marine Corps
Brandino112 1 year ago
Fucking russians have only made a lot problems...
Teqo7 1 year ago
The music made the commentary hard to understand
mikeinpinehurst 1 year ago
when will this war flippin end
ww2halo 1 year ago
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911insidejob81 1 year ago
u coulda make this video without tha loud dum mu$ic
BabyGersh 1 year ago
I like this music, what is it?
teacherabc22231905 1 year ago
the music is "leave no man behind" from "black hawk down" 's soundtracks, by H.Zimmer.
Mashcotte 1 year ago
It sounded like a story that needed to be told, but the background music was too over whelming, as it was drowning out the narration.
1LonePuma 1 year ago
wots with the music????
axy1982 1 year ago
They will never win against those cowardly talibans they are hiding amongst citiezens, and plant bombs at roads and just sitt and wait, pathetic, i hope they get tired and nuke the shit.
NukeDAshit 2 years ago
Its not 'War WITH Afghanistan', its 'War IN Afganistan' as alot of the insurgents are foreigners and we aren't at war with the Afghan people, we're trying to give them stability and a country run safely and not under an evil dictatorship.
phucoff1 2 years ago 11
There are only five countries left without a Rothschild ("jewish") bank: Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Libya, and North Korea. Does that tell you anything? AMERICA, WHO'S YO DADDY? THE "JEWS"!!! Keep being retarded.
HDEANBERRYDOTCOM 2 years ago
phucoff1, I just wish "guys" like you could be REAL men FOR JUST ONE DAY!! You have NOT ONE original thought in your head. You depend on America's mostly "jewish" media to tell you what to think. You're a pathetic example of what an American man is. In a democratic society or a constitutional republic you have A DUTY to make yourself informed. You do that by actually investigating these matters, not just sitting back like a baby and allowing yourself to be spoonfed. BE A MAN, MY GOD!
HDEANBERRYDOTCOM 2 years ago
I'm not American and i assume you dont like Jews? Seeing as how you clearly dont like Jews, your retarded mind is made up of paranoia conspiracy theories, prick.
phucoff1 2 years ago
You're retarded if you defend people who are clearly your worst enemies. You can verify that by reading the talmud, the "jewish holy book." Nonjews were put on this earth to be used by the "jew" and to serve him. That's what they believe.
HDEANBERRYDOTCOM 2 years ago
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Robert Fowler Canadian Hero and longest serving ambassador to the UN who was kidnapped by Al Qaeda for 5 months.
"We are simply not prepared to foot the massive price in blood and treasure, which it would take to effectively colonize Afghanistan and replace their culture with ours, for that seems to be what we seek.
It is time to leave."
lesdoyle2000 1 year ago
@phucoff1 No it is War...
SamoanSpike07 1 year ago
@SamoanSpike07
Oh right, so you've been to Afghan then? Where abouts? How long d'you go for?
phucoff1 1 year ago
@phucoff1 im 17 not in the army yet but im planning on it,
my bro is in Afghanistan today
SamoanSpike07 1 year ago
@SamoanSpike07
well i've done 2 x 6 months tours there, so dont comment on something you dont understand.
phucoff1 1 year ago
@phucoff1, That's bullshit and you know it. The original goal in Afghanistan was to find Osama Bin Laden, but no dice. We are now just chasing ghosts with no clearly defined goal.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325 U right , only ghosts and thatt's it. So first, we saved the Iraquis by killing them, and now we are killing the afghans by killing them too. Now there are talks about Pakistan. At this rate spending 6 billion per country, we are doing just fine!
enchilada01 1 year ago
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@esh325 USA is invading afghanistan for stretigcal and economic reasons.
its next door to iran, making it convenient for invasion of iran (2nd biggest oil reserves), and also borders china, russia and india, giving USA massive influence and power in a region bordering major powers.
They try justify the war with 'winning hearts and minds', when in reality they could wipe the ''insurgents'' out in days.... Bindladen and ''terrorists'' are just a pathetic excuse engineered for the initial invasion
benhoshinji 1 year ago
@phucoff1 but it doesnt really work it out
arbuzas123 1 year ago
What,s with the loud music? pointless!!
seyeguor 2 years ago
wow nice all that dangerous work and u place music over what he is saying. Nice way to show some disrespect.
robglide650 2 years ago
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Stupid Americans helped Talibs to battle to Russian soldiers in Afghanistan. Now the history has put all into place. Now your country will take burning in Afghanistan. Now you already ask us about the help because you are killed the weapon which by you delivered to Afghanistan against Russian.
nacgul1975 2 years ago
the loud music is killin the video man.
trackfan080 2 years ago
yeh nice video, but whats with the music, i cant hear much apart from the music, can u turn it down???? cool vid though
specialpplchange 2 years ago
i say nuke them all its the only way
ridicule401 2 years ago
@ridicule401 the only way of what?
RelaxItsJustAFlare 2 years ago
@ridicule401 we cant usa made an agreement that we cant use nuclear weapons we used it before on hiroshima and nagasaki in 1945
screwriod 1 year ago
The video itself is very nice, but the music is on way too loud, you can bearly hear anything behind it.
ChaosOps 2 years ago
The aim of the US bases in Afghanistan is to target and be able to strike at the two nations which today represent the only combined threat in the world today to an American global imperium, to Americas Full Spectrum Dominance as the Pentagon terms it.
gkossatzgmxde 2 years ago
The aim of those bases is not to eradicate any Al Qaeda cells that may have survived in the caves of Tora Bora, or to eradicate a mythical Taliban which at this point according to eyewitness reports is made up overwhelmingly of local ordinary Afghanis fighting to rid their land once more of occupier armies as they did in the 1980s against the Russians.
gkossatzgmxde 2 years ago
The second reason the US military remains in Afghanistan long after the world has forgotten even who the mysterious Osama bin Laden and his alleged Al Qaeda terrorist organization is or even if they exist, is as a pretext to build a permanent US military strike force with a series of permanent US airbases across Afghanistan.
gkossatzgmxde 2 years ago
"The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it." - George Orwell
69Bluntsmoka420 2 years ago
One good thing about the war is its stopped the heroin. Afghanistan was the main place this stuff was produced, which has been screwing up peoples lives all over the world for years.
Blunder1248 2 years ago
I think you need a reality check. the Tliban stopped the Heroin trade as they are fundamentalist muslims. The war brought back the Heroin trade in record numbers. Suggest catching up on your facts.
stuka1942 2 years ago
It has been documented that Washington hand-picked the controversial Hamid Karzai, a Pashtun warlord from the Popalzai tribe, long in the CIAs service, brought him back from exile in the USA, created a Hollywood mythology around his courageous leadership of his people. According to Afghan sources, Karzai is the Opium Godfather of Afghanistan today. There is apparently no accident that he was and is today still Washingtons preferred man in Kabul.
gkossatzgmxde 2 years ago
no u r wrong.the taliban stoped the heroin.
naveedngr 2 years ago
@naveedngr no man you wrong,the taliban never stop heroin! Most heroin goes to russia, than it goes further to some countries else!
Andrewso10 2 years ago