Jim lutz was good. I hear a return to painting...jokers! Why? Can't draw or paint or sculpt,then, are they artists...? Funny how everyone who visits museums rushes off to see the 'boring' likes of Van Gogh, Cezanne and even Pollock or Picasso ever wonder why? Because it's visual and almost always understandable. The art curators are generally 99/100 of the time students of art but rarely artists. Talent ....you can't study it. This is arty farty and more like plain Farty
I have to agree with the criticism here. There seems to be a total absence of quality technique, is it just ideas as basic as they may be that is considered art today? Can the curators stop the intellectual brain drain and just consider a tad bit of harmony, color, technique. Time to be true about artistic creation. Why throw in architecture, video, photography and while you're at it industrial recuperation...back to basics please!
If your in NY union square plaza steps this sunday 11 at 3pm exactly BE PART of the group show for the first unidentifiable art movement the first movement to be defined by nothing. bring your art and be part of the movement
Way too many pieces look like the first step in the process of coming up with a senior thesis show. So unchallenging, yet with a germ of an idea that might be developed. Of course, since development implies standards rather that self-celebration, this might not be an option. Thank you, post-structuralists.
I've been mulling this over- juror-curator. The juried show is the artist submitting work for consideration so the curated show must then be someone inviting artists whose work they feel is significant. Is that correct? If so that makes the curated show so much more a product of the curator's tastes, as opposed to someone selecting the best of what has been randomly submitted. From your comments on Part III it sounds like the curator thing hasn't been working all that great for the Whitney.
it's at Daniel Weinberg in LA, unless someone came in my studio and took work to Eller without me knowing it. (Sounds like a good idea for a show anyway.)
Like most work today: lacking emotional commitment. Commitment is to idea rather than the thing. Isn't this exactly what has happened in the financial world of derivatives (Credit Default Swaps). Selling ideas and not things. Nothing tangible but the promise of. How weak this is and how prevalent in our over conceptualized world. Separated from our emotions, the mind has taken over.
do you complain from a distance about an art world you won't even try and crack? do you have excuses why? do you take no personal responsibility? your not bored, your boring.
...been a pro since 12 years old. now 32 year old veteran. 3 acre property covered in equipment house filled with equipment. working 80-100 hours a week on my artwork. currently doing a $120,000 project for a sanctuary/hospital area. the art world isn't worth "cracking". notoriety does not equal "merit". success is not being known. success is being a master of your craft. and yes i am boring. my work is not.
One thing I like in this Biennal is the apparent resurgence of painting. And I think many of them are good (the Flower paintings at the beginning of part I...). You can't expect everything to be revolutionary or brilliant; I think the quality was not that bad and I expected less.
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Do artists and people in NYC really think this is great art? This has all the problems that the revolution in art is against. Here's 9 to start with: 1. Cold 2. Disjointed 3. Can't communicate it's message 4.Weird 5.Elitist 6.Technically poor if there is technique at all 7. Pompous and inflated, often takes up a room 8. Non functional, not useful, not integrated into life 9 No breath or scope. From Five Doors to the Art Revolution #2. thanks.
enough with the whining. I don't think this is the greatest Biennial I've seen, but complaints are easy, Tell us who we should be looking at? (Besides TomHendricksMusea and his tired "Art Revolution")
hey mr Kalm ....hows about Steve Dibenedetto, Stanley Whitney, Donna Nelson, Inka Essenhigh, Tomory Dodge, Laura Owens, Charles Seliger, John Lasker, John Polypchuk, Dana Schutz.........i'll get back to you with the rest :)oh, and Loren Munk and Steven Charles too:)
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Start by seeing that there are many that think it's time for a change. The Stuckists are a big group in this area. My work is worth a look. I've been leading an arts revolution for 17 years. What's tired about it? Do you even know what it stands for? Start with the manifesto or the Snake Oil Conceptual art video.
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Second thought. If you don't like my art, than cover it and say why. Test them with the same 9 points I listed above. Maybe you should cover art that isn't so safe and sanctioned and mainstream..
people write about what interests them intellectually, your just whining for some attention. You have the audacity (Stupidity) to imply that everyone (NY, Museums, Artists) are idiots. "everyones stupid except me" ~Homer Simpson
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Not either. I'm saying any art that has the 9 problems listed above is not great. Defend it if you think it's great. Pick your favorite work and show me why it's good. Many many great artists out there. But they aren't in this show with these works.
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James, we should be looking at all artists that don't have the 9 points against them listed above. Like this stuff, then point out your favorite and let's talk about it.
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This was not museum quality IMO. It looked more like a college art show. Most museum's works on display, are much much better than this. You bring up corporate music. That's part of the art revolution too. There is great music and art out there that is not the trendy stuff you mention. See the 200 new song Big List, best of the net, and the 200 song NPR music challenge . There is great music out there, and great art out there.
TomHendricksMoron You are an ass. This show does not represent ALL of NYC, idiot. Your 9 points of conformity suck. You are a self promoting Ass, thats it. Name ONE artist you like. Fuck your Revolution, its about you, not Art.
I am interested in your thoughts about the role of jurors in our perception of what contemporary art is.... what noteworthy contemporary art is.... Do you see the jurors in the shows-figuratively speaking?
@caliclips, these are not jurors, they are curators. Yes, they set the tone, establish the vision of the show. I didn't think this is a particularly strong Biennial, but as everyone says "it's just the Whitney Biennial" you're supposed to hate it. I believe everyone has to pick there own favorite artists, and have a good reason why.
Jim lutz was good. I hear a return to painting...jokers! Why? Can't draw or paint or sculpt,then, are they artists...? Funny how everyone who visits museums rushes off to see the 'boring' likes of Van Gogh, Cezanne and even Pollock or Picasso ever wonder why? Because it's visual and almost always understandable. The art curators are generally 99/100 of the time students of art but rarely artists. Talent ....you can't study it. This is arty farty and more like plain Farty
Whatever3114 1 year ago
I have to agree with the criticism here. There seems to be a total absence of quality technique, is it just ideas as basic as they may be that is considered art today? Can the curators stop the intellectual brain drain and just consider a tad bit of harmony, color, technique. Time to be true about artistic creation. Why throw in architecture, video, photography and while you're at it industrial recuperation...back to basics please!
Whatever3114 1 year ago
If your in NY union square plaza steps this sunday 11 at 3pm exactly BE PART of the group show for the first unidentifiable art movement the first movement to be defined by nothing. bring your art and be part of the movement
watch video on this channel for more info
unidentifiableart 1 year ago
@jameskalm, do you have a top10 of your favorites per month???
superkeitai 1 year ago
Thanks James I appreciate the glimpses you give us into the NY galleries.
f0rTyLeGz 1 year ago
Way too many pieces look like the first step in the process of coming up with a senior thesis show. So unchallenging, yet with a germ of an idea that might be developed. Of course, since development implies standards rather that self-celebration, this might not be an option. Thank you, post-structuralists.
d1artbob 2 years ago
I've been mulling this over- juror-curator. The juried show is the artist submitting work for consideration so the curated show must then be someone inviting artists whose work they feel is significant. Is that correct? If so that makes the curated show so much more a product of the curator's tastes, as opposed to someone selecting the best of what has been randomly submitted. From your comments on Part III it sounds like the curator thing hasn't been working all that great for the Whitney.
caliclips 2 years ago
@caliclips "Bingo".
jameskalm 2 years ago
mr kalm congratulations on your show @ Derek Eller :) looks good
MrWowforever 2 years ago
Hey Wow,
it's at Daniel Weinberg in LA, unless someone came in my studio and took work to Eller without me knowing it. (Sounds like a good idea for a show anyway.)
jameskalm 2 years ago
@jameskalm oops...congratulations all the same....i like the small ones a lot, very intimate and lovely. :)
MrWowforever 2 years ago
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3idiot3 2 years ago
thanks
3idiot3 2 years ago
Nothing new! What the hell was Jerry Salts talking about???
lukeyocum 2 years ago
Like most work today: lacking emotional commitment. Commitment is to idea rather than the thing. Isn't this exactly what has happened in the financial world of derivatives (Credit Default Swaps). Selling ideas and not things. Nothing tangible but the promise of. How weak this is and how prevalent in our over conceptualized world. Separated from our emotions, the mind has taken over.
jameslour 2 years ago
your emotions come from your mind:)
MrWowforever 2 years ago
I liked the video of the show, but did not find a single work which was inspiring or even interesting...new low for the Biennial..:((
nametyb 2 years ago
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No one has yet pointed out a single work that he or she thinks is good. There's lots of vagueness here. What specific work do you like here.
BTW the Turner Prize winners is almost always just as bad. So its not just NYC.
TomHendricksMusea 2 years ago
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MrWowforever 2 years ago
As usual a good video for me to see of an event I can't get to
RCAPAINTER 2 years ago
it's all starting to look the same. let's just lose the names and just say "by a new york artist".
eenkjet 2 years ago
Except that many of these artists are not "New York artists".
jameskalm 2 years ago
@eenkjet your comments all sound the same. Lets call them boring.
3idiot3 2 years ago
well i am bored. bored by the creative dark ages we currently are stuck in.
eenkjet 2 years ago
do you complain from a distance about an art world you won't even try and crack? do you have excuses why? do you take no personal responsibility? your not bored, your boring.
3idiot3 2 years ago 2
...been a pro since 12 years old. now 32 year old veteran. 3 acre property covered in equipment house filled with equipment. working 80-100 hours a week on my artwork. currently doing a $120,000 project for a sanctuary/hospital area. the art world isn't worth "cracking". notoriety does not equal "merit". success is not being known. success is being a master of your craft. and yes i am boring. my work is not.
eenkjet 2 years ago
ick....sorry i asked.
3idiot3 2 years ago
would like to read jurors statement to understand selection process...thanks for your videos
foxtrapper1972 2 years ago
you can probably find it on the Whitney Museums website :)
MrWowforever 2 years ago
One thing I like in this Biennal is the apparent resurgence of painting. And I think many of them are good (the Flower paintings at the beginning of part I...). You can't expect everything to be revolutionary or brilliant; I think the quality was not that bad and I expected less.
claureic 2 years ago
I think there is something in here for nearly everyone, maybe not some-THINGS, but at least some-THING. Like the new style music intros
fintanob 2 years ago
i really appreciate you posting this stuff ...
thank you
ammusi 2 years ago 2
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Do artists and people in NYC really think this is great art? This has all the problems that the revolution in art is against. Here's 9 to start with: 1. Cold 2. Disjointed 3. Can't communicate it's message 4.Weird 5.Elitist 6.Technically poor if there is technique at all 7. Pompous and inflated, often takes up a room 8. Non functional, not useful, not integrated into life 9 No breath or scope. From Five Doors to the Art Revolution #2. thanks.
TomHendricksMusea 2 years ago
Hey TomHendricksMusea,
enough with the whining. I don't think this is the greatest Biennial I've seen, but complaints are easy, Tell us who we should be looking at? (Besides TomHendricksMusea and his tired "Art Revolution")
jameskalm 2 years ago
hey mr Kalm ....hows about Steve Dibenedetto, Stanley Whitney, Donna Nelson, Inka Essenhigh, Tomory Dodge, Laura Owens, Charles Seliger, John Lasker, John Polypchuk, Dana Schutz.........i'll get back to you with the rest :)oh, and Loren Munk and Steven Charles too:)
MrWowforever 2 years ago 3
Hey Wow,
you gotta love Chris Martin, Thornton Willis, Thomas Trosch, and...and...and...
jameskalm 2 years ago
yes, yes, yes and tom freidman.........
3idiot3 2 years ago
mr Kalm ....the Whitneys are fine, never perfect (thankfully), but generous. :)
MrWowforever 2 years ago
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Start by seeing that there are many that think it's time for a change. The Stuckists are a big group in this area. My work is worth a look. I've been leading an arts revolution for 17 years. What's tired about it? Do you even know what it stands for? Start with the manifesto or the Snake Oil Conceptual art video.
TomHendricksMusea 2 years ago
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Second thought. If you don't like my art, than cover it and say why. Test them with the same 9 points I listed above. Maybe you should cover art that isn't so safe and sanctioned and mainstream..
TomHendricksMusea 2 years ago
people write about what interests them intellectually, your just whining for some attention. You have the audacity (Stupidity) to imply that everyone (NY, Museums, Artists) are idiots. "everyones stupid except me" ~Homer Simpson
MrWowforever 2 years ago
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Not either. I'm saying any art that has the 9 problems listed above is not great. Defend it if you think it's great. Pick your favorite work and show me why it's good. Many many great artists out there. But they aren't in this show with these works.
TomHendricksMusea 2 years ago
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James, we should be looking at all artists that don't have the 9 points against them listed above. Like this stuff, then point out your favorite and let's talk about it.
TomHendricksMusea 2 years ago
wow...literally begging for attention. One must work for attention. Like all the artists in the Biannual. Its not all good, but no ones begging.
3idiot3 2 years ago
Is it really any different than many museums you may go to and see 3/4 of the work is weak but the little gems make it worth the suffering?
Look at the gems,after all do you go to the record store and listen to Beyonce or Backstreet boys when you came for Beethoven?
As Always thanks James!
zoticus1 2 years ago
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This was not museum quality IMO. It looked more like a college art show. Most museum's works on display, are much much better than this. You bring up corporate music. That's part of the art revolution too. There is great music and art out there that is not the trendy stuff you mention. See the 200 new song Big List, best of the net, and the 200 song NPR music challenge . There is great music out there, and great art out there.
TomHendricksMusea 2 years ago
TomHendricksMoron You are an ass. This show does not represent ALL of NYC, idiot. Your 9 points of conformity suck. You are a self promoting Ass, thats it. Name ONE artist you like. Fuck your Revolution, its about you, not Art.
3idiot3 2 years ago
great stuff :]
MrSeanMDickinson 2 years ago
I am interested in your thoughts about the role of jurors in our perception of what contemporary art is.... what noteworthy contemporary art is.... Do you see the jurors in the shows-figuratively speaking?
caliclips 2 years ago
@caliclips, these are not jurors, they are curators. Yes, they set the tone, establish the vision of the show. I didn't think this is a particularly strong Biennial, but as everyone says "it's just the Whitney Biennial" you're supposed to hate it. I believe everyone has to pick there own favorite artists, and have a good reason why.
jameskalm 2 years ago
nice work James!!
richbrv22 2 years ago