Electric Time: Digital Asynchronicity

[mrmike9959]

haha, "three armed despot", what a great description

[InevitableComedown]

"the other-than-here not being other-than-now"...very interesting phrase.

i like this vid a lot, good work, Corey! i'm curious, have you read anything by Michel Serres? i have found his thought on technology & communication really enlightening. seems like it would mesh really well with your ideas and the other resources you are working with.

[Professoranton]

@InevitableComedown Thanks. I have. Good stuff. If you want to read some interesting criticisms of Serres see the chapter called "The Murmur of the World," in alphonso lingis's book The Community of Those Who Have Nothing In Common.

[InevitableComedown]

@Professoranton hmm...i haven't read "Hermes", but i just read the Lingis chapter (until the google book preview ran out, that is) and i agree with the critique he is making. it is indeed surprising to see the similarities between Serres' communication theory and Marx's explanation of commodity exchange through axiomatization of abstract labor power under capitalism - i take it this is what Lingis is hinting at when he accuses Serres of merely continuing a market-based paradigm.

[InevitableComedown]

@Professoranton anyway, this seems like a great book and the point he is making is something i have been trying to articulate for quite a while...i am an intercultural communications practitioner and i have been trying to develop a communication paradigm that honours difference and alterity without reducing the other to the same. will have to grab a copy of this for sure

[InevitableComedown]

@InevitableComedown oh yeah, also "The Third Wave" by Toffler speaks to this clash of temporal regimes as well...the synchronous & asynchronous

[GestaltTherapy1]

Oh I so agree about the effects of clocks on us. spot on.

[barrydliss]

even the word 'watch' conveys the visual panopictical nature of temporality...good stuff Corey...

[9macrina9]

I also thought it interesting that Jung thought of the clock face as it appeared in dreams, as a simple mandala, often a precursor to events of integration of the psyche. And everyone knows Dali's melted clock of the surreal, the pressures of modern scheduling overwhelming the subconscious.

[matrixcmitech]

Awesome insights! atomic (cesium) clocks dictate all the machines connected to the network. the lingo of my labor, (telecom specialization) considers a full spectrum of relatable concepts... lag = Latency, slow connection; i/o errors in data; timing sources; Time Division Multiplexing; SONET; et al;

so, putting together a mechanical clock with a mechanical telegraph, it is, what i would refer to as, a matrix.

viewed together with your last vid, enslavement, great deconstructions!

[0ThouArtThat0]

He wrote a book called "The Ever-Present Origin." He talks about 5 structures of consciousness spanning human history/prehistory: archaic, magic, mythic, mental, and integral. This video reminded me of his work because of the emphasis he puts on the quantification and false spatialization of time being characteristic of the mental structure. EPO is one of my favorite texts. I'd recommend it.

[0ThouArtThat0]

Corey, have you heard of the cultural phenomenologist Jean Gebser?

[9macrina9]

... Also, I prefer the "face" of the twelve hour clocks; the form implies a "roundness"(full circle/ wholeness)...a completion of a day, plus the arc of the hands connects to the perceived movement of the sun, ie, the embodiment of the eyes, If one's timebeing can be disembodied, then the body itself is more vulnerable to machinization.

[robbwindow]

Deskbot, brilliant analogy!

[auamoti]

i almost hate to point this out, but i think he said 'despot' as in despotism. i could be wrong.

[robbwindow]

Ok I listening for the third time again. despot. yeah your right, what does this mean I mean I don't know much about horology.

[9macrina9]

I don't own a microwave food-cooking machine...LOL...when they first appeared, marketed as a convenience, I thought ,good grief, who wants to impose themselves into my kitchen and make me cook my food faster, fer cryin out loud. This definitely leads to the question of the massive external agenda for the phenomenology of internal being/time. Henry Ford and his assembly line vs Julia Child.....LOL