@sayyid99 i....am......waiting but if u cannot answer then i fully understand u aint got an answer and dont even bother asking any more questions cos ur jus WASTING my time! Ah well another miserably failed shiite who cannot answer basics but thinks he is in right,SELF DELUSIONAL???
@sayyid99 lol hahahaha ere we go AGAIN am sure i am gettin de ja vu lol what an intelligent imbecile you are lol i mean YOU ask the questions.....then YOU answer them!and then YOU accuse and abuse for NOT answering YOUR question lol W O W crazy people
@sayyid99 hahaha NO NADA dont answer me cos YOU KNOW ITS NOT STATED IN QURAN The rest wot u write is irrelevant useless again u have failed miserably like the shiite u are
@Iranshit so you have basically admitted to me that you don't even pray, because the number of units for salat is not mentioned in the Quran.
Salat is wajib and the units not mentioned in the Quran, yet because Mut3a isn't mentioned in the Quran you get so happy as if your whole religion is now justified based on this single point
I think I can assume now you are simply thick and a complete and utter idiot
@sayyid99 yea yea yea and......yea we will come to that but.....answer my question now through quran honestly u are in another world lets keep it simple one question at a time please we are only human........i ask bot muta and u....instead of answering start on sahaba ra wife ra wudu misyar and then u answer wudu urself! Lol
@sayyid99 so umer ra abu bakr ra uthman ra and mother ayesha ra i can prove with QURANIC refs but first i want u to prove to me from quran muta jus one small lil question if ur up to it
you see, wudu is a fundamental part of the religion, yet you perform it wrongly. In the Quran it says WIPE your feet, but you WASH. If you cannot accept this, then everything else you say is irrelevant as you have proven to be a true ignorant fool
All you can talk about it Mut3a, even though you have your own version called Misyar. How pathetic
@sayyid99 lol SARCASTIC? More like taqiyya umer ra was worst sahaba? Out of the sahaba ra in whos reign did islam spread from africa to persia to india?even non muslims have said GOOD bout him he is mentioned in QURAN too ALLAH IS WELL PLEASED WITH THEM
@sayyid99 lol this is what kufiz do avoid answering questions i want proof from quran bout muta end of and as for abu bakr sidique ra NO i dont need to defend him QURAN DEFENDS HIM AND HIS NOBLE AND PIOUS DAUGHTER MOTHER AYESHA RA but......u lol cannot even provide proof of ur aqaid in QURAN! Jus ask and i will give refs, but in the meantime keep it simple cos if u have READ quran then u sure can answer.....am waiting...
@sayyid99 again many thanks many thousands of thanks for i will love to RISE up in qyamah or get buried with a NOBLE,BLESSED,GOD FEARING SAHABI MUAWIYA RA thanks!
@Iranshit loooooooooooooool, Muawiyah was God fearing and blessed. The same Muawiyah that was too busy eating when the Prophet pbuh asked to see him. Oh dear oh dear
@sayyid99 finally, tell me why you WASH your feet, when it says WIPE in the Quran. It just shows that Sunnis do not follow the Quran but Umar, like he was some sort of Prophet istaghfurllah
I can guarantee you that you know washing your feet is wrong but your arrogance will prevent you from wiping it. Try reading the Quran
@sayyid99 lol let me jus finish with what taqiyah laden mind is goin thru lol u wrote 'i agree umer ra WAS a great man' then u write ALL the bull the lies and INSULT him lol NO LOGIC
@Iranshit it's called being sarcastic. Umar was the worst sahaba. Abu Bakr wasn't too bad. Uthman was hated by the people and murdered on the order of Ayesha then buried with the Jews
@sayyid99 how come NO SHITITE IS BURIED NEXT HIM SAWS???cos if ur right then He saws was with righteous companions and laid rest with them also but...........no........shitite?why?maybe he doesnt want owt to do with them?
@sayyid99 lol ok so when did getting buried next to a GOOD person make u good?lol it DOESNT!.......but.......prophet saws....was NUR IS NUR AND ALWAYS WILL BE NUR!!! and aint no man like him ever lived or will ever be born now.......is He saws just a good person?or did malaika,earth,animals confirm and accept his presence?didnt He saws go heaven?so He saws aint just a 'good' person he is BLESSED AND ALLAH IS PLEASED WITH HIM !
@sayyid99 there u go again lying and BULLSHITTING as u go WITHOUT EVIDENCE lol plenty ACCUSATIONS but cannot back it up with evidence lol lets finnish with the first MUTA question then we can move to the FAKE HADITH OF BROKEN DOOR am waiting...........
@sayyid99 lol typi al shiite u DONT give me an answer but......tell me to go find it!and where from!hahaha WIKIPEDIA! lol my wikipedia is.......QURAN......explain through there oh and by the way why are asking a question upon my question??? Typical kufi!!
@sayyid99 mashallah THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH I AM OVWERJOYED WITH HAPPINES I THANK U A THOUSAND TIMES AND MORE for you are praying for jannah firdaus for me i thank you very much cos my sahaba ra who u just mentioned the two great ones abu bakr ra and umar ra are BURIED next to muhammed saws! And u know where muhammed saws is,dont ya?!lol EXCELLENT LOGIC FROM MY SHIITE BROTHER HAHAHAHA
1) Since when was being buried next2 a good person automatically make you a good person. No logic
2) You have not mentioned the third caliph or Muawiyah or Yazid, so once again I pray you end up with them
3) I agree, Umar ra was a great man. He used to worship idols before converting, he tried to kill the Prophet during his jahiliya days, he ran away in Uhud, he burnt the house of the Prophet's daughter, and he called the Prophet delirious when the Prophet pbuh was on his death bed
Lol hard fucking shits of shiites lol all lil turds walking and talking shit u can see the shit pouring out from this smelly shiites mouth cos his muta mum used to give him muta breast milk when he was birn and now he is grown up like a real azadari shitite shit lol
Fuck the Shia up the arse hardcore with a a bloody zanjeer on shame gariba and then fuck this guys mum on vid do it the dirty hazara dog style can't wait for Iran to get bumbed sorry bombed
There wans't any sunni shia crud while the Prophet was alive. Why do you think there can't be spaces in between when you pray?? CAUSE MUSLIMS ARE SUPPOSED TO STAND TOGETHER.
Look at the world. PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE DYING hindu, jew, native american I DON'T CARE! And we're arguing over what we think is more proper?!?!? The Middle East is a mess, and you just wanna stand here squabbling like kids?!?!?!
WHY ARE WE FOCUSING ON SOMETHING SO INSIGNIFICANT???
Yes CLEARLY the Middle East needs more violence. The poverty isn't enough. and OBVIOUSLY your prophet who said muslims must be UNITED and ACCEPTING of other cultures would support you.
You're no muslim. Don't act like one and ruin it for the rest of us.
you sunnis cud nt get together yet after 1400years to decide that which fiqah is perfect,Prophet(sawaw) has the knowledge of Unseen or no?,Is Allah sitting on the chair or no?Is Allah everywhere or just on the sky?,Was Prophet(sawaw) noori or no?, Can a girl marry without the permission of Wali(Parents),Aameen must be said in loud voice or no during the prayers? etc.or shall i tell u the details of bloody debates b/w diff sunni sects????..fix ur problems then point ur guns towards Shias. thanx
by calling people "bastards" and "kuffar" what exactly do you think you are? I never once heard Mohammed, Jesus, Moses, Bhudda, or any other famed religous leader curse at anyone.
What gives you the right to call any of God's creations dirt? You're slandering your Creator's name.
Excellent lesson showing the origins of this massively deviant shia creed and the role Abdullah bin Sabaa' the Jew had in its establishment as documented and confirmed in many of the earlier so called prominent and reliable shia books and their scholars, despite the fact that many of the contemporary shias completely deny he ever existed: youtube(dot)com/watch?v=xwmdxCUR3ms&feature=PlayList&p=2FABCDE069B99029&index=9
DOesn't mean wahabis are "deviant". Look who the HELL cares what you're religon is? It's NONE of your people's business to judge other people's belief!
You wanna be a muslim? Go help the homeless, go read the Quran, or go help your parents.
There was no sunni shia crap when the Prophet was alive now was therE???
...تحيا المقاومة العراقية..نيك ايران و اسرائيل و أمريكا أبناء المتعة و الزنا ...سوف نفجر طيز أمهاتكم أين ما كنتم...تحيا الجزائر و العراق باستثناء الروافض العطايين اللدين يرقصون في النجف بينما المارينز ينيكون اخواتهم ..خدعتم وطنكم و ولي أمركم فانتقم منكم الله و سياتي منكم جيل جديد هم أبناء المارينز
sunni brothers iam a shia so let us listen to your knowledge and your opinions on ahlulbayet share your wisdom send me emails on my account so i can show you how ahlulbayet really were great so sunni brothers share your wisdom by sending me emails on what you think ahlulbayet.
They act like they care about Islam. Look at them, they are abandoning there deen living in the west. Shias have to wake up from saying things about the imams like they are 'ALL KNOWING' or "Manafestors of Beauty". This is all shirk, they have to stop saying "O ALI help Us" because it is ALLAH and he alone who helps his slaves. ALi is dead, he cant do nothing for you. Until SHias return back to Deen Muhammed and AHlel BAyt- they will always be hated and ridiculed and disunity will rave
Of course i condem killing any civilians of innocence. Shia or not. I condem killing innocent people, But that is politcal my point with shia is religous, they call on others besides ALLAH, they changed the Prayer, they still do Prostitution even thought the prophet Forbid Mutah later on his life
Ahlelbayt are the COMPLETE family of the prophet including his wives, if you had a wife wouldnt you consider her part of your family!! Like i said many times, anyone who hates Ahlelbayt is a KAffir, and we Sunnah and Jamiah will make takfeer on them. So Akhi, how bout when one curses the Sahabah!! Why do you hate those the prophet loved. Many lies about Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Muawiya, Zubair, Abdulrahman ibn Auf, ABu Hurairah, and misconceptions have been spread. Tell me and i will explain to u
The 5 who were placed under the cloak were in a isolated incident, but their are others. THe Ahlelbayt are The Prophet's wives, The Prophet's children, Ahlel Kisa, The family of Aqil, The offspring of Jafar, The offspring of Abbas, Salman al-Farsi, and also some others. "Do not come to me with your lineages on the Day of Resurrection! My Family is every God-fearing believer."
However, the Ahlel Bayt is not limited to these people. Included in the Ahlel Bayt is every God-fearing believer.
In the Sunnah it says that both men and women should grow out their beards. It also says you should grow out your pubes. When they become long and unwieldy, it is appropriate to braid them in dreadlocks. The Sunnah also states you should grow out your ass hairs. Same braiding technique can be used.
wahaabis are in alliance with the americans, KUFFARS to kill their muslim brothers and sisters in muslim lands. history has shown that shias are the true defenders of islam. we all need to unite and form a common goal.
shias? the 1'z dat whip dem selves upto date 4 what their leader did 2 the prophets (pbuh) relative, ur leader slaughtered a dear 1 to the prophet (pbuh) an u tink u are the tru defenders of islam? nah nah u manz aint dat, stop lying 2 yourselves
the same shias who helped the Crusaders a thousand year ago. You Guys want to ridicule the Sunnah and Muslims and call us wahabis. To let you know, America created that term as it created many terms to smear islam.
don't make generalizations or jump to comclusions-- logical fallcies. They're just furious that sacred ground, not to mention a cultural treasure trove, was blasted to smithereens by some ignorant, close minded old fools.
that doesn't mean every "wahabi" is so. and not every sunni/shia/christian/jew/hindu/zorastian is the same
ya moslimin ya ahal sona alysa wahbiya hom ahls sona alysa homa salifiya kalim mochtaka men salf ay salf salih ya ahl sona idribo 3onk kole chi3i mortd alah oma damira chi3a kelab al mrikan
asalaamualaikum all. i want to apolagize 2 the sunni brothers n sisters for the aggressive approach i was wrong 2 backbite and accuse any1 or group, i shoulda just stated helpful words and then kept silent..that being said i think enuff proof is out there for any1 searching for truth..google SHIA ENCYCLOPEDIA. Allahafiz 2 u all. inshallah all followers of Allah and Muhammed will be in peace with each other as islam teaches Alwayz have a good temper.
a shia is the follower of the prophets family, wahabi belief is to kill all shias, if they love the prophets family why would they wana kill their followers and what idiot told you the prophet said destroy domes
why would fatimas husband follow a companion??? u can change your stories many times as the christians do to the Bible. whatever suits u. sunni is politics like george bush and the pope. follow AHLUL BAIT as 3:61 my brothers dont let Satan make u follow a non holy person.
ya dude im SURE the Prophets family followed the POLITICAL leader caliphs. u follow your companions of "his time"...i will follow the prophet and his fam.
Shiites invited Ali, then they killed him. Then, they invited his sons Hassan and Hussain to join the Persians, then they too were slaughtered. Shiites are killers of Hassan and Hussain and Ali. As a matter of fact, Hassan and Hussain were dignified **SUNNIS** living in Medina, before being butchered by their self-proclaimed 'followers.'
sayyid99 calm down if u re read my posts u will see that i have not condoned suicide bombings nor have i ever even mentioned it. i think u mixed me up with someone else.
gogiison2 ive not cursed shias as a whole. those shia that accept the quran, sahabah and do not commit shirk are my muslim brothers. one must accept the truth and do thorough research and compare the shia and sunni hadiths
Umar, I challenege you to provide me one verse from the Quran that makes it lawful to blow yourself up and kill innocent women and children, bcoz this is YOUR PEVERTED RELIGION
ive read ur kitabs so i know what the shias believe. sayyid99 who mentioned suicide bombings and if u want to hate the father in law of the prophet pbuh and son in law of ali ra in umar ra - and the father of the shia imams in abu bakr ra thats ur decsison. but ur making a fool of urself
and plz Umar dont curse shia as a whole as i dont curse u or anyone of the people u follow. may Allah judge and dont go believing everything u read becuz any man with a hand can write anything on computer or paper. other than that i have nothing against u or any1 else Asalaamualaikum 2 u and your family, islam is about peace.
umar i try not 2 listen 2 he say she say , again its like a see-saw with u. i think i made my point. my point was so my fellow muslims could read what i wrote. u can believe whatever u like after i have taught.
gogiison2 i wouldnt waste my time reading websites how about reading the works of the geat scholars of the ahlus sunnah or even shia scholars. this is how u compare and contrast also please show abu bakr ra respect he isnt mr bakr he is abu bakr as siddique ra
abu bakr was a disgrace during the time of the prophet pbuh however not as bad as umar, muawiyah and yazid may allah curse them all. These are the enemies of the Ahlulbayt and their descendents are th eones who are causing carnage in Iraq now killing women and children
Umar, since when was suicide bombing halal? please provide evidence from the quran
it wasnt the case that ali ra didnt avenge the murder of usman ra it was because he couldnt he was unsure who exactly it was. u shias believe ibne abu bakr ra killed usman ra LOL yet u claim to love the ahlibait
it even teaches Aisha and Talha and Zubair are the ones to go Against Imam Ali in the battle of Camel. and then after Ali was victorious,he pardoned Aisha. and why do u think Ali may have not avenged uthmans death?
rememeber muawiya ra was kitaabe wahee hence he had the trust of prophet pbuh he also had dua of the prophet pbuh to be a leader and a faqhi- thats why ali ra and hasan ra respected him if muawiya ra hated ali ra he would have fought ali ra when talha ra did and probab;y would have won - but he remained neutral even though he held the same stance as talha ra
if ameeri muawiya ra was greedy for power then ali would not have negotiated peace with him nor would hassan ra do bayah to him if muawiya ra wanted a dynasty then why did he advise yazid to abdicate if a better man claimed his caliph the reality was at the time that although there were better men than yazid to be caliph none of them had the backing which was important for unity eg hussain ra was betrayed at karbala
ameeri muawiya ra may have made a mistake at siffin just like ali ra may have made a mistake in not avenging usman ra murder- u should on usman ra murder and the reaction to it of the muslims hence why ameeri muawiya ra was not alone in his stance- great companions like talha ra zubair ra aisha ra held the same stance but u shias wont dare curse them hence why u vent all ur curses on ameeri muawiya ra
Muwayia wanted to give his dynasty 2 his son Yazzid who further distorted the way. but im not gonna continue to argue small things like this becuz if u use ur brain with understanding and without ignorance u will see im rite.
becuz i have neutral feeling of Mr bakr becuz he was not from the Prophets family and i dont believe he say she say about any1 saying he should rule.many Muhmammed did love them when he was alive, but again they are only human and can make mistakes as we see with Muwaiya so i dont believe 2 follow just any friend of Prophet. i rather follow his family.
ameeri muawiya ra loved ali ra and vice versa during siffin a woman came to him about he right to land. muawiya ra didnt have an answer hence he sent a messenger to ali ra who gave the correct answer
so if in ur eyes if abu bakr ra was close to the prophet pbuh then why do u imple inferiority with abu bakr ra???? u can love ali ra but that doesnt mean u have to demean abu bakr ra. u imply neutrality on the first 3 caliphs, how can u??? when the prophet pbih loved them 3 the most
so i dont see how sunnis praise this man. if Mu'āwīyah ibn Abī Sufyān was against ALi and his caliphate how can sunnis agree with him and still praise Ali...this is all the calamity that Islam teaches will arise when Muhammed departs...still this is why i like to refer to Quran chapter 2 verse 6,7...Asalaamualikum brother Umar.
see u dont like him. why was abu bakr ra a lucky man???? u being derogatrary without actually slandering him. he was not lucky he was simply a great man. what do u think of ameeri muawiya ra??? do u hate him??
again many people distort islam,shia n sunni together , alot follow in ignorance and follow their forefathers. i am starting 2 repeat myself again and again, just becuz many claimants of shia may hate doesnt mean i do. becuz most r uneducated in Islam and like 2 believe what people tell em and everything that they hear
thats were u wrong u dont love when u dont follow their way of Islam , for instance a christian couldnt claim they loved Muhammed. and i never said hated any1 that is for God alone to judge.
the ahlibait were great people that sunnis love. however u hate the sahabah whilst the prophet pbuh and ahlibait loved them - this is the problem that u must address
gogiison2 remember ali ra took care of abu bakr ra son when he passed away (muhammad ibne abu bakr ra)remember that almost half the shia imams are decendents of abu bakr ra
basically its all he say she say with u mostly as i read what u write u believe everything u hear....i follow the Prophets Family while u can follow whoever u want. becuz i believe no1 knows more about Islam then the family n Prophet. Umar take care and find some unbiased approach thanks.
so if is was "this inner circle" of marriage supposedly...then why didnt Hussain and Hussan follow since "their sister married Umar supposedly" and maybe they were companions of the prophet when Muhammed was alive but what did they do when he left...appointed 1 abu bakr knowing he's a man and men make mistakes, and why not Ali with abu bakr as a union..but of course they didnt do it this way
well if shia scholars claim ali gave his daughter 2 umar then why it the shia scholar still a shia and reject caliphs? any1 can claim 2 be a sunni/shia scholar 2 further distort,sorry about how many daughter of Muhammed i need to find out also. plz find the surah i will try also.Abu bakr was his companion AT THE TIME becuz he was accompanied by him. again he say she say about abu bakr leading after Muhammed.
gogiison2 see this is one of many things i dont get about shias how can u feel comfortable in dismissing the hadiths recorded by shia scholars just coz it doesnt fit the shia agenda. he cant be a proper scholar otherwise and is a fabricator
ya u rite about Abu Bakr being companion but thats exactly what he was of the two that was in the cave at the moment. but no i dont agree with that shia scholar if thats indeed His own and not fabricated statement made by him. but maybe it is true, again hadiths can be written by anyone claiming anything, but i dont believe this inner circle of marriage which u claim, or else Hussan n Hussain would of followed Calpih and vice versa
but about these protests and cursing at others n killing others i am against.let God judge and only God..Islam teaches PEACE, shia n sunni or wahabi or whoever have 2 accept this.
the prophet pbuh chose abu bakr ra as imam when he was ill which is the highest position in sharia prophet pbuh chose abu bakr ra as ameer of the final hajj prophet pbuh called him khaleel and said the sacrifice of abu bakr ra outweighs that of the whole uumah
if u read the history abu bakr ra was fearful coz he thought it would be the end of the prophet pbuh but the prophet pbuh could see angles protecting them hence he told abu bakr ra not to fear what do u think of allah swt calling abu bkar ra a companion and the second of the two - surely those that curse abu bakr ra are kaffir coz they are going against the quran
prophet pbuh had more than one daughter as allah swt stated in the quran il get the verse for u. u r just twisted. usman ra married two of them and dont tell me they were his step daughters coz u just lying then
even kulyani the "trust of shia islam" admits that ali ra gave his daughter to umar ra. its in the shia books. so who are u to disAgree with a great shia scholar???
"When Umar died, Ali came over to Umme-Kulthum, held her by the hand and took her home"
Imam Baqer said :
"Ali's daughter Umme-Kulthum and her son Zaid bin Umar bin al-Khattab, died at the same time. No one knew who died first. Therefore none of them was made the inheritor of the other, and their funeral prayers were offerred simultaneously"
as for umme kulsoom binte ali here is the source from al kafi - Kitab-ut-Talaq, Chapter Al-Mutwaffi anha Zaujuha, Vol 6, P.115-116,Chapter Mirath-ul-Furqi wa Mehdum, Vol 9, P.262
just as chapter 2:6,7 it basically talks bout people even with the truth b4 themeselves will dsregard becuz of shields on their hearts and over their eyes and ear...plz dont quote me of anything i say im just giving my example. so may Allah show mercy becuz i am not perfect in translating hid Quran..but brother Umar u know what i mean.
surah QASAS chapter 28:56 doesnt have any unanimous decision. it basically talks about not all be guided right. which we know the ones that rejected Muhammed were indeed the real losers.
yes Umar u are right Abu Bakr was in the cave with Propeht Muhammed when Hijjra started while Ali was sleep in the prophets bed in disguise of being the prophet against the enemies trying 2 kill Muhammeed. so Abu bakr met near the cave and they hid there where Abu bakr was in fear of enemies where the Prophet had 2 reassure that the enemies are losers and God is with the Prophet and Islam.(pertaining 2 Abu's fear)
and then sunni dont accept the actual Grandsons as calpihs or "teachers of Islam" for these biased reasons i chose shia becuz just as we say jesus' mother mary was holy we beleive in here, justas prophet Ibrahim and Ishmeal and Isaac we believe the family Holy same applies here.. inshallah God will show us the right way of Islam that he taught and not let us learn rumors or let Satan interfere w/ our learnings and teachings Inshallah
my dad was sunni so i took an unbiased approach to this whole thing,after all the info i gathered i converted.its just common sense like why would Muhammed give his ONLY daughter 2 Ali and not Abu Bakr and if sunni follow Ali. then why not his and Fatimas sons(grandsons of the Prophet) they stopped at Ali with the caliphate meaning a non family member of Muhammed being (Abu Bakr)was 1st caliph ,
1st of all Sunnis claimed that Ali's daugnter was married 2 Kulthoom. when us shia say the sunnis fabricated this lie in thier hadiths to cause confusion. aside from that i was looking online and i saw that there were many "kulthoom's" at the time of Umar the caliph. and also if Ali's daughter indeed did marry Umar, then wouldnt her brothers Hassan and Hussain follow Umar and there wud be no confusion they wud be a part of Ahlul Bait"
gogiison2 dont worry il check the verse and get back to you. why dont you check surah qisas verse 56 about talib dying without iman and surah tawbah verse 40 about abu bakr ra called a companion by allah swt
gogiison2 ive read nahajul balagha and its just a bunch of made up lies. where the isnaads or the proofs its true the sahabahs had their own masjids but the main masjid was the prophets majid pbuh where they all were and the prophet chose abu bakr ra hence he was the best
if indeed what the sunni "claim to be true" about what Prophet Muhammed "said" about Abu Bakr leading and Ali and Umar and Uthman as superiors , then why did they all lead at seperate times and not as 1 union. this leads me to believe they didnt have each others counsils but instead ruled how they wanted individually as apposed 2 Ali, who ruled from what he learned from Quran and sunnat from Muhammaed and not follow how Caliphs ruled.
and no we dont agree Umar married Ali's daughter...becuz then wouldnt Ali's sons approve of Umar n Uthman n Abu Bakr as well??? obviously they didnt for a reason, many people distort hadiths and christians did distort the teaching Jesus.
and whats this...shias dont claim Ali over Muhammed, these are just distorted stories by people wanting to mislead.(kaffirs) ...i am shia and i will never say Ali was supposed 2 be a prophet..
read chapter 33 verse 33 of the Quran ..tell me what u think when it refers 2 "family" its obvious the Quran was revealed 2 the Prophet and he was the 1st to demonstrate these actions amongst which family?? u guyz answer that Umar h 1 ?
1st of all about UmarH1 i dunno bout Abu Bakr leading any prayers..maybe he did but we shia believe in the Prophets family as in hadiths it declares the prophet said "Ali is to me as Aaron was to Moses" se we follow the family 1st becuz it was the holy bloodline, im not saying sunni is wrong, but who is more right than shia,and why wud prophet let Ali marry his Only daughter and not Abu Bakr?? its small logic that makes sense.
there are islamic teachings that explain that extremists that claim to be 'muslim" are the real losers. how can we kill innocent people...alotta sunnis and shia are extremists and claim Islam , yet islam dont teach killing for no reason. this is all Satan's work 2 cause separation of Adams children. any1 can claim " i am muslim" but u have to act it
just as i believe some of the prophets fam died of poisioning , doesnt mean we shud poision ourselves, alot of muslims today follow out of ignorance and follow their forefathers as Christians did, we have to seek truth and understanding and read 4 ourselves
i can understand if we just hit our chest in a soft manner 2 commemorate but not kill ourselves. just as the prophets family were tortured if they cried or mourned for their sons when they were captured by Yazzid i believe it was, not sure tho, so instead of crying they hit their bussoms 2 releave some pain.
im shia. but i think people that beat themselves with knives are wrongand 4 inflicting pain on yaself..i underdstand shias try 2 commemorate but i was in Pakistan and some people actually died doing the beating of themeselves with knives and how can we answer 2 our 1 Allah after we die and say "i killed myself"
god u guys should think about this and GROW up look im only 16 and its freakin common sence that u shouldnt be doing this yet u still do. im sorry bes i think i lost alot of respect 4 alot of u from wat i read and i dont even know u....sta5farallah yalla inshalla it all works out 4 evry1 of u..salam
@sayyid99 i....am......waiting but if u cannot answer then i fully understand u aint got an answer and dont even bother asking any more questions cos ur jus WASTING my time! Ah well another miserably failed shiite who cannot answer basics but thinks he is in right,SELF DELUSIONAL???
Iranshit 3 months ago
@sayyid99 lol hahahaha ere we go AGAIN am sure i am gettin de ja vu lol what an intelligent imbecile you are lol i mean YOU ask the questions.....then YOU answer them!and then YOU accuse and abuse for NOT answering YOUR question lol W O W crazy people
Iranshit 3 months ago
@sayyid99 hahaha NO NADA dont answer me cos YOU KNOW ITS NOT STATED IN QURAN The rest wot u write is irrelevant useless again u have failed miserably like the shiite u are
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit so you have basically admitted to me that you don't even pray, because the number of units for salat is not mentioned in the Quran.
Salat is wajib and the units not mentioned in the Quran, yet because Mut3a isn't mentioned in the Quran you get so happy as if your whole religion is now justified based on this single point
I think I can assume now you are simply thick and a complete and utter idiot
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 LOGIC
Iranshit 3 months ago
@sayyid99 lol and then u start insulting me calling me arrogant?bout wot?am only asking a question but ur getting all heated up lol
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit i will say this one more time
Salat is wajib. Now tell me how many units you should pray in Asr using the Quran only???
Mut3a is not wajib or even recommended. If you can prove to me the salat units from Quran, I will do the same for mut3a
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 yea yea yea and......yea we will come to that but.....answer my question now through quran honestly u are in another world lets keep it simple one question at a time please we are only human........i ask bot muta and u....instead of answering start on sahaba ra wife ra wudu misyar and then u answer wudu urself! Lol
Iranshit 3 months ago
@sayyid99 so umer ra abu bakr ra uthman ra and mother ayesha ra i can prove with QURANIC refs but first i want u to prove to me from quran muta jus one small lil question if ur up to it
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit
you see, wudu is a fundamental part of the religion, yet you perform it wrongly. In the Quran it says WIPE your feet, but you WASH. If you cannot accept this, then everything else you say is irrelevant as you have proven to be a true ignorant fool
All you can talk about it Mut3a, even though you have your own version called Misyar. How pathetic
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 lol SARCASTIC? More like taqiyya umer ra was worst sahaba? Out of the sahaba ra in whos reign did islam spread from africa to persia to india?even non muslims have said GOOD bout him he is mentioned in QURAN too ALLAH IS WELL PLEASED WITH THEM
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit
Regarding your hero Umar. Why did he run away in Uhud? And why did he call the Prophet delirious?
You know the truth but fail to accept it through arrogance and ego.
sayyid99 3 months ago
Ayesha fought against Imam Ali, the Khalifa e Rashid and the Great Sahabi
Ayeshas' coming out of her house during The battle of Camel (Jamal) was against the clear verdict of the Quran itself
Ayesha is the mother of believers but her actions will declare if she was a good mother or the sort of a mother who needs to be dissociated from
Previous wives of Prophets such as Nuh (AS) and Lut (AS) will be in hell due to the sin they committed thus being a wife of a Prophet is no merit
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 lol this is what kufiz do avoid answering questions i want proof from quran bout muta end of and as for abu bakr sidique ra NO i dont need to defend him QURAN DEFENDS HIM AND HIS NOBLE AND PIOUS DAUGHTER MOTHER AYESHA RA but......u lol cannot even provide proof of ur aqaid in QURAN! Jus ask and i will give refs, but in the meantime keep it simple cos if u have READ quran then u sure can answer.....am waiting...
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit regarding Ayesha
Ayesha was not the favorite wife of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
Ayesha was not even the best woman of her own time
Ayesha is not a part of the blessed Ahlulbayt
Ayesha was jealous of other wives of Prophet (SAW)
Ayesha used to plot against the Prophet (SAW) himself
Ayesha used to fight with other wives of Prophet (SAW)
Ayesha used to argue with Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and her jealousy used to come in between her obedience to the Prophet
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 again many thanks many thousands of thanks for i will love to RISE up in qyamah or get buried with a NOBLE,BLESSED,GOD FEARING SAHABI MUAWIYA RA thanks!
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit loooooooooooooool, Muawiyah was God fearing and blessed. The same Muawiyah that was too busy eating when the Prophet pbuh asked to see him. Oh dear oh dear
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 finally, tell me why you WASH your feet, when it says WIPE in the Quran. It just shows that Sunnis do not follow the Quran but Umar, like he was some sort of Prophet istaghfurllah
I can guarantee you that you know washing your feet is wrong but your arrogance will prevent you from wiping it. Try reading the Quran
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 lol let me jus finish with what taqiyah laden mind is goin thru lol u wrote 'i agree umer ra WAS a great man' then u write ALL the bull the lies and INSULT him lol NO LOGIC
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit it's called being sarcastic. Umar was the worst sahaba. Abu Bakr wasn't too bad. Uthman was hated by the people and murdered on the order of Ayesha then buried with the Jews
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 how come NO SHITITE IS BURIED NEXT HIM SAWS???cos if ur right then He saws was with righteous companions and laid rest with them also but...........no........shitite?why?maybe he doesnt want owt to do with them?
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit are you an idiot or something. The Prophet died before Abu Bakr and Umar, hence he had no say in the matter.
If thats the best argument you got in defending Abu Bakr and Umar then I feel sorry for you.
At least they werent murdered like your hero Uthman, whose death was ordered by Ayesha
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 lol ok so when did getting buried next to a GOOD person make u good?lol it DOESNT!.......but.......prophet saws....was NUR IS NUR AND ALWAYS WILL BE NUR!!! and aint no man like him ever lived or will ever be born now.......is He saws just a good person?or did malaika,earth,animals confirm and accept his presence?didnt He saws go heaven?so He saws aint just a 'good' person he is BLESSED AND ALLAH IS PLEASED WITH HIM !
Iranshit 3 months ago
@sayyid99 there u go again lying and BULLSHITTING as u go WITHOUT EVIDENCE lol plenty ACCUSATIONS but cannot back it up with evidence lol lets finnish with the first MUTA question then we can move to the FAKE HADITH OF BROKEN DOOR am waiting...........
Iranshit 3 months ago
@sayyid99 lol typi al shiite u DONT give me an answer but......tell me to go find it!and where from!hahaha WIKIPEDIA! lol my wikipedia is.......QURAN......explain through there oh and by the way why are asking a question upon my question??? Typical kufi!!
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit just because Mut'a is not haram, it does not mean it should be practiced
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 now that u have prayed for me could u at least tell me about the concept of prostitution ooops so so sorry i meant muta in quran thank you
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit
1) type Nikah mut‘ah in Wikipedia and that will explain it for you, including proof from Quran and hadith
2) do me a favour, and explain to me using the Quran why you wash your feet in wudu?
sayyid99 3 months ago
@sayyid99 mashallah THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH I AM OVWERJOYED WITH HAPPINES I THANK U A THOUSAND TIMES AND MORE for you are praying for jannah firdaus for me i thank you very much cos my sahaba ra who u just mentioned the two great ones abu bakr ra and umar ra are BURIED next to muhammed saws! And u know where muhammed saws is,dont ya?!lol EXCELLENT LOGIC FROM MY SHIITE BROTHER HAHAHAHA
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit
1) Since when was being buried next2 a good person automatically make you a good person. No logic
2) You have not mentioned the third caliph or Muawiyah or Yazid, so once again I pray you end up with them
3) I agree, Umar ra was a great man. He used to worship idols before converting, he tried to kill the Prophet during his jahiliya days, he ran away in Uhud, he burnt the house of the Prophet's daughter, and he called the Prophet delirious when the Prophet pbuh was on his death bed
sayyid99 3 months ago
@IslaminBosnia
Saying that wahabism does not exist is like saying 1+1 is equal to 3
Try searching wahabi on Wikipedia
sayyid99 3 months ago
Lol hard fucking shits of shiites lol all lil turds walking and talking shit u can see the shit pouring out from this smelly shiites mouth cos his muta mum used to give him muta breast milk when he was birn and now he is grown up like a real azadari shitite shit lol
Iranshit 3 months ago
@Iranshit
1) shows what a great Muslim you are with that language
2) I think you will find the concept of Mut3a in the Quran
3) I pray for you that you end up in the same place as Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Muawiyah and Yazid
sayyid99 3 months ago
They really look like their on the sunnah our prophet! : s
IslamNowUK 3 months ago
Shia donkey of jews
TheArabianNation 1 year ago
Fuck the Shia up the arse hardcore with a a bloody zanjeer on shame gariba and then fuck this guys mum on vid do it the dirty hazara dog style can't wait for Iran to get bumbed sorry bombed
mythdestroyer1 1 year ago
@mythdestroyer1 fuck you kuffar
FUCKZIONISM666 1 year ago
wahabbi is true Islam & these Shia kafirs r just filthy ignorant violent vermin.
Maybe they can put a stick in their ass & pretend they r popcycles.
They r always protesting something
UK send them back to Pakistan
howie1962 1 year ago
Wahabbi RULES!!!
Shia kafirs
howie1962 1 year ago 2
I know them lol
3raqi90 1 year ago
Shia are scumbags, they take pride in twisting the core principals of Islam such as monotheism.
Edible6Gold9Sparkles 2 years ago
fuck Mawyia and his son and his flower ,
aljan416 2 years ago
amislam(dot)com/khutoot(dot)htm
zakuk77 3 years ago
Bin Ladin is NOT a wahabi, but a heretical Khawarij!
thewahhabimyth(dot)com
zakuk77 3 years ago
ANSWER MY QUESTION:
There wans't any sunni shia crud while the Prophet was alive. Why do you think there can't be spaces in between when you pray?? CAUSE MUSLIMS ARE SUPPOSED TO STAND TOGETHER.
Look at the world. PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE DYING hindu, jew, native american I DON'T CARE! And we're arguing over what we think is more proper?!?!? The Middle East is a mess, and you just wanna stand here squabbling like kids?!?!?!
WHY ARE WE FOCUSING ON SOMETHING SO INSIGNIFICANT???
Simsim1705 3 years ago
Yes CLEARLY the Middle East needs more violence. The poverty isn't enough. and OBVIOUSLY your prophet who said muslims must be UNITED and ACCEPTING of other cultures would support you.
You're no muslim. Don't act like one and ruin it for the rest of us.
Simsim1705 3 years ago
just try it mother fucker
humayunka 3 years ago
you sunnis cud nt get together yet after 1400years to decide that which fiqah is perfect,Prophet(sawaw) has the knowledge of Unseen or no?,Is Allah sitting on the chair or no?Is Allah everywhere or just on the sky?,Was Prophet(sawaw) noori or no?, Can a girl marry without the permission of Wali(Parents),Aameen must be said in loud voice or no during the prayers? etc.or shall i tell u the details of bloody debates b/w diff sunni sects????..fix ur problems then point ur guns towards Shias. thanx
smrr110 3 years ago
lol.......wat a waste man
gooner4lyf 3 years ago
Sunni, SHia, what does it matter? It isn't your job to judge other poeple-- that's God's.
Why not focus on real issues, like world hunger? The Darfur massacre? Endangered species?
You waste your time squabbling over insignificant details. Move on-- that's what any true religous person should do, isn't it?
Simsim1705 3 years ago
u lot r literally kids name calling.
shame on you thick bastards, ur same as the kuffar, look at allahu akbar. despite this dirt i pray may allah show you the right path, inshallah.
sayeedr 3 years ago 2
by calling people "bastards" and "kuffar" what exactly do you think you are? I never once heard Mohammed, Jesus, Moses, Bhudda, or any other famed religous leader curse at anyone.
What gives you the right to call any of God's creations dirt? You're slandering your Creator's name.
Simsim1705 3 years ago
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Excellent lesson showing the origins of this massively deviant shia creed and the role Abdullah bin Sabaa' the Jew had in its establishment as documented and confirmed in many of the earlier so called prominent and reliable shia books and their scholars, despite the fact that many of the contemporary shias completely deny he ever existed: youtube(dot)com/watch?v=xwmdxCUR3ms&feature=PlayList&p=2FABCDE069B99029&index=9
zakuk77 3 years ago
"Massively deviant shia creed?"
Osama bin Laden's a wahabi.
DOesn't mean wahabis are "deviant". Look who the HELL cares what you're religon is? It's NONE of your people's business to judge other people's belief!
You wanna be a muslim? Go help the homeless, go read the Quran, or go help your parents.
There was no sunni shia crap when the Prophet was alive now was therE???
Simsim1705 3 years ago
...تحيا المقاومة العراقية..نيك ايران و اسرائيل و أمريكا أبناء المتعة و الزنا ...سوف نفجر طيز أمهاتكم أين ما كنتم...تحيا الجزائر و العراق باستثناء الروافض العطايين اللدين يرقصون في النجف بينما المارينز ينيكون اخواتهم ..خدعتم وطنكم و ولي أمركم فانتقم منكم الله و سياتي منكم جيل جديد هم أبناء المارينز
smoothrayan 3 years ago
just send me a "YES" message on my account and i will put on lots and lots of mulla ali latmiat if you dont want any dont send message.
iraqiShi3i 3 years ago
prays this boy
sjcict03082 4 years ago
sunni brothers iam a shia so let us listen to your knowledge and your opinions on ahlulbayet share your wisdom send me emails on my account so i can show you how ahlulbayet really were great so sunni brothers share your wisdom by sending me emails on what you think ahlulbayet.
iraqiShi3i 4 years ago
They act like they care about Islam. Look at them, they are abandoning there deen living in the west. Shias have to wake up from saying things about the imams like they are 'ALL KNOWING' or "Manafestors of Beauty". This is all shirk, they have to stop saying "O ALI help Us" because it is ALLAH and he alone who helps his slaves. ALi is dead, he cant do nothing for you. Until SHias return back to Deen Muhammed and AHlel BAyt- they will always be hated and ridiculed and disunity will rave
filistin4life 4 years ago
y r u not condemning the bombings?
sodhip 4 years ago
Of course i condem killing any civilians of innocence. Shia or not. I condem killing innocent people, But that is politcal my point with shia is religous, they call on others besides ALLAH, they changed the Prayer, they still do Prostitution even thought the prophet Forbid Mutah later on his life
filistin4life 4 years ago
tre bien!
takbeer
Simsim1705 3 years ago
uhm, you can't judge them as a group of people.
The Catholic Inquisition terrorized non Christians in Spain, but you can't judge Christians or Spainiards because of that.
Simsim1705 3 years ago
LoL, whats the meaning of Ahlul-Bayt for you then?
moajjnr 3 years ago
Ahlelbayt are the COMPLETE family of the prophet including his wives, if you had a wife wouldnt you consider her part of your family!! Like i said many times, anyone who hates Ahlelbayt is a KAffir, and we Sunnah and Jamiah will make takfeer on them. So Akhi, how bout when one curses the Sahabah!! Why do you hate those the prophet loved. Many lies about Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Muawiya, Zubair, Abdulrahman ibn Auf, ABu Hurairah, and misconceptions have been spread. Tell me and i will explain to u
filistin4life 3 years ago
then your mistaken ahl bayt are only the five: prophet,ali,fatima,hasan,,hussen.
fatimahkhanom07 3 years ago
The 5 who were placed under the cloak were in a isolated incident, but their are others. THe Ahlelbayt are The Prophet's wives, The Prophet's children, Ahlel Kisa, The family of Aqil, The offspring of Jafar, The offspring of Abbas, Salman al-Farsi, and also some others. "Do not come to me with your lineages on the Day of Resurrection! My Family is every God-fearing believer."
However, the Ahlel Bayt is not limited to these people. Included in the Ahlel Bayt is every God-fearing believer.
filistin4life 3 years ago
shut up ur a pig
strike2k7 4 years ago
what if he doesn't want to shut up?
Simsim1705 3 years ago
if he doesnt then sinply chop his penis off and stick it up his chootars.
humayunka 3 years ago
The prophet said, if you call someone a pig, youll be unclean for 40 days...
FahadKhan1988 4 years ago
In the Sunnah it says that both men and women should grow out their beards. It also says you should grow out your pubes. When they become long and unwieldy, it is appropriate to braid them in dreadlocks. The Sunnah also states you should grow out your ass hairs. Same braiding technique can be used.
Allah is a Mzghabah.
cairsuckit3 4 years ago
wahaabis are in alliance with the americans, KUFFARS to kill their muslim brothers and sisters in muslim lands. history has shown that shias are the true defenders of islam. we all need to unite and form a common goal.
ezsarah 4 years ago 2
shias? the 1'z dat whip dem selves upto date 4 what their leader did 2 the prophets (pbuh) relative, ur leader slaughtered a dear 1 to the prophet (pbuh) an u tink u are the tru defenders of islam? nah nah u manz aint dat, stop lying 2 yourselves
paki8soulja 4 years ago
the same shias who helped the Crusaders a thousand year ago. You Guys want to ridicule the Sunnah and Muslims and call us wahabis. To let you know, America created that term as it created many terms to smear islam.
filistin4life 4 years ago
don't make generalizations or jump to comclusions-- logical fallcies. They're just furious that sacred ground, not to mention a cultural treasure trove, was blasted to smithereens by some ignorant, close minded old fools.
that doesn't mean every "wahabi" is so. and not every sunni/shia/christian/jew/hindu/zorastian is the same
Simsim1705 3 years ago
VERY sad you still have no idea about who is the real enemies of ISLAM...WAKE UP
TURKISHCOMMANDO22 4 years ago 2
Ia Ichwan min Al- Shia
Lakum Hubb Farid li-Ali Ibn Abi Talib, wa lakin la tasubbu wa la Tal3nu Abu Bakr, Umar wa Uthman, hatta idha la ta3tarifuna Chilafatahum!!!
Ia Ahl Al- Sunna Wa Ahl Al- Shia ... Kilahuma!
La Tukaffiru Ba3d wa hawilu an tuqarribu ila-Allah!
Ana Sunni wa Ana Muqtan3 min Al- Manhaj Al- Sunni, Lakinni Akrahu Al- Tahaqud wa Al- Tafachur bein Ahl- Al- Sunna wa Ahl- Al- Shia! Fakkiru Ia Shabab
youtauba 4 years ago
lok schu hal ayr enta
lebnenisenni 4 years ago
ya moslimin ya ahal sona alysa wahbiya hom ahls sona alysa homa salifiya kalim mochtaka men salf ay salf salih ya ahl sona idribo 3onk kole chi3i mortd alah oma damira chi3a kelab al mrikan
bikolo 4 years ago
ya weld almot3aa istaho min anfosikim al 3alem kolo yedhak 3elikom .idribo anfsikom bi salsil walah ahl bayt khonat 3ala darbikom anfosikom na3lto alah 3alikom
bikolo 4 years ago
.<b>The Messenger of Allah said to Ali: <i>"Glad tiding O Ali! Verily you and your companions and your Shia (followers) will be in Paradise." </i>
Sunni references:
(1) Fadha'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p655
(2) Hilyatul Awliyaa, by Abu Nu'aym, v4, p329
(3) Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v12, p289
(4) al-Awsat, by al-Tabarani
(5) Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v10, pp 21-22
(6) al-Darqunti, who said this tradition has been transmitted via numerous authorities.
vindiesel000 4 years ago
who so ever lies in name of allah or prophet mohammed pbuh he make his place in hell fire.
quranhadeeth 4 years ago
you have the references & the page numbers there so go look them up, and if you think there lies then it means your books are full of lies.
vindiesel000 4 years ago
huhuhuhu good work boys
I love yas all
vindiesel000 4 years ago
asalaamualaikum all. i want to apolagize 2 the sunni brothers n sisters for the aggressive approach i was wrong 2 backbite and accuse any1 or group, i shoulda just stated helpful words and then kept silent..that being said i think enuff proof is out there for any1 searching for truth..google SHIA ENCYCLOPEDIA. Allahafiz 2 u all. inshallah all followers of Allah and Muhammed will be in peace with each other as islam teaches Alwayz have a good temper.
gogiison2 4 years ago
ahahahahah,shia follower of ahl bayt?!!!!
They killed Ali,Hassan and Hussain.Shimr,ex-shia killed Hussain.Ali killed by ex-shias.
Hassan poisoned by ex-shia.
Rafidism=very deceiveful
Walhamdulilah101 4 years ago
my beloved bro..
i don't get you. please study!
how do you know thye did it? were you in the past?
um..
Afghanxshia4life 4 years ago 2
you are the sanest person here.
congrats, good to know someone has a heart out there
Simsim1705 3 years ago
a shia is the follower of the prophets family, wahabi belief is to kill all shias, if they love the prophets family why would they wana kill their followers and what idiot told you the prophet said destroy domes
terror006 4 years ago
bouncer786 what are you say storys they are fallse ya abu fitnah.
Ansarshi3a 4 years ago
Ya aiuhal Kafirun ( wahabis )
Ansarshi3a 4 years ago
why would fatimas husband follow a companion??? u can change your stories many times as the christians do to the Bible. whatever suits u. sunni is politics like george bush and the pope. follow AHLUL BAIT as 3:61 my brothers dont let Satan make u follow a non holy person.
gogiison2 4 years ago
ya dude im SURE the Prophets family followed the POLITICAL leader caliphs. u follow your companions of "his time"...i will follow the prophet and his fam.
gogiison2 4 years ago
Shiites invited Ali, then they killed him. Then, they invited his sons Hassan and Hussain to join the Persians, then they too were slaughtered. Shiites are killers of Hassan and Hussain and Ali. As a matter of fact, Hassan and Hussain were dignified **SUNNIS** living in Medina, before being butchered by their self-proclaimed 'followers.'
bouncer786 4 years ago
what is the sunni view of MUBAHILA from surah 3 ayaat 61? and who was at Mubahila with Prophet Muhammed ?
gogiison2 4 years ago
The curse that is Islam.
tkwtkwtkw 5 years ago
ameen.
umarH1 5 years ago
Curse of Allah,angels nd believers upon rafidis.
O Allah kill the rafidis.
Walhamdulilah101 5 years ago
sayyid99 what r u on about??? lets not divrert the topic, how about answering my points??
umarH1 5 years ago
sayyid99 calm down if u re read my posts u will see that i have not condoned suicide bombings nor have i ever even mentioned it. i think u mixed me up with someone else.
umarH1 5 years ago
OK, so we agree suicide bombing is haram
Now can you provide me a verse in the Quran that says you should wash your feet during wudu?
sayyid99 5 years ago
gogiison2 ive not cursed shias as a whole. those shia that accept the quran, sahabah and do not commit shirk are my muslim brothers. one must accept the truth and do thorough research and compare the shia and sunni hadiths
umarH1 5 years ago
Umar, I challenege you to provide me one verse from the Quran that makes it lawful to blow yourself up and kill innocent women and children, bcoz this is YOUR PEVERTED RELIGION
sayyid99 5 years ago
ive read ur kitabs so i know what the shias believe. sayyid99 who mentioned suicide bombings and if u want to hate the father in law of the prophet pbuh and son in law of ali ra in umar ra - and the father of the shia imams in abu bakr ra thats ur decsison. but ur making a fool of urself
umarH1 5 years ago
and plz Umar dont curse shia as a whole as i dont curse u or anyone of the people u follow. may Allah judge and dont go believing everything u read becuz any man with a hand can write anything on computer or paper. other than that i have nothing against u or any1 else Asalaamualaikum 2 u and your family, islam is about peace.
gogiison2 5 years ago
umar i try not 2 listen 2 he say she say , again its like a see-saw with u. i think i made my point. my point was so my fellow muslims could read what i wrote. u can believe whatever u like after i have taught.
gogiison2 5 years ago
gogiison2 i wouldnt waste my time reading websites how about reading the works of the geat scholars of the ahlus sunnah or even shia scholars. this is how u compare and contrast also please show abu bakr ra respect he isnt mr bakr he is abu bakr as siddique ra
umarH1 5 years ago
abu bakr was a disgrace during the time of the prophet pbuh however not as bad as umar, muawiyah and yazid may allah curse them all. These are the enemies of the Ahlulbayt and their descendents are th eones who are causing carnage in Iraq now killing women and children
Umar, since when was suicide bombing halal? please provide evidence from the quran
sayyid99 5 years ago
it wasnt the case that ali ra didnt avenge the murder of usman ra it was because he couldnt he was unsure who exactly it was. u shias believe ibne abu bakr ra killed usman ra LOL yet u claim to love the ahlibait
umarH1 5 years ago
again u dont read well i see, i never cursed any1 may God curse whom God wills.
gogiison2 5 years ago
it even teaches Aisha and Talha and Zubair are the ones to go Against Imam Ali in the battle of Camel. and then after Ali was victorious,he pardoned Aisha. and why do u think Ali may have not avenged uthmans death?
gogiison2 5 years ago
it even teaches on some websites that Yazzid deviated against Prophet Muhammed's teachings.
gogiison2 5 years ago
rememeber muawiya ra was kitaabe wahee hence he had the trust of prophet pbuh he also had dua of the prophet pbuh to be a leader and a faqhi- thats why ali ra and hasan ra respected him if muawiya ra hated ali ra he would have fought ali ra when talha ra did and probab;y would have won - but he remained neutral even though he held the same stance as talha ra
umarH1 5 years ago
if ameeri muawiya ra was greedy for power then ali would not have negotiated peace with him nor would hassan ra do bayah to him if muawiya ra wanted a dynasty then why did he advise yazid to abdicate if a better man claimed his caliph the reality was at the time that although there were better men than yazid to be caliph none of them had the backing which was important for unity eg hussain ra was betrayed at karbala
umarH1 5 years ago
ameeri muawiya ra may have made a mistake at siffin just like ali ra may have made a mistake in not avenging usman ra murder- u should on usman ra murder and the reaction to it of the muslims hence why ameeri muawiya ra was not alone in his stance- great companions like talha ra zubair ra aisha ra held the same stance but u shias wont dare curse them hence why u vent all ur curses on ameeri muawiya ra
umarH1 5 years ago
so what about Yazzid torturing the Prophets family.
gogiison2 5 years ago
Muwayia wanted to give his dynasty 2 his son Yazzid who further distorted the way. but im not gonna continue to argue small things like this becuz if u use ur brain with understanding and without ignorance u will see im rite.
gogiison2 5 years ago
becuz i have neutral feeling of Mr bakr becuz he was not from the Prophets family and i dont believe he say she say about any1 saying he should rule.many Muhmammed did love them when he was alive, but again they are only human and can make mistakes as we see with Muwaiya so i dont believe 2 follow just any friend of Prophet. i rather follow his family.
gogiison2 5 years ago
ameeri muawiya ra loved ali ra and vice versa during siffin a woman came to him about he right to land. muawiya ra didnt have an answer hence he sent a messenger to ali ra who gave the correct answer
umarH1 5 years ago
ameeri muawiya ra disagreed with ali ra over the revenge of usman ra thats all. there was no greed on either side for power.
umarH1 5 years ago
so if in ur eyes if abu bakr ra was close to the prophet pbuh then why do u imple inferiority with abu bakr ra???? u can love ali ra but that doesnt mean u have to demean abu bakr ra. u imply neutrality on the first 3 caliphs, how can u??? when the prophet pbih loved them 3 the most
umarH1 5 years ago
so i dont see how sunnis praise this man. if Mu'āwīyah ibn Abī Sufyān was against ALi and his caliphate how can sunnis agree with him and still praise Ali...this is all the calamity that Islam teaches will arise when Muhammed departs...still this is why i like to refer to Quran chapter 2 verse 6,7...Asalaamualikum brother Umar.
gogiison2 5 years ago
did Mu'āwīyah ibn Abī Sufyān agree or disagree with Ali's caliphate....becuz i am reading everywhere even yahoo that Muawiyah did NOT accept Ali.
gogiison2 5 years ago
Umar u r crazy i just told u why he was a lucky man...again this proves people dont see what they read always.
gogiison2 5 years ago
see u dont like him. why was abu bakr ra a lucky man???? u being derogatrary without actually slandering him. he was not lucky he was simply a great man. what do u think of ameeri muawiya ra??? do u hate him??
umarH1 5 years ago
i dont love or hate the caliphs minus Ali. just a neutral feeling. indeed Abu Bakr was a lucky man to have been close 2 Muhammed
gogiison2 5 years ago
ok then, let me ask u a simple question do u have love for the sahabah???
umarH1 5 years ago
again many people distort islam,shia n sunni together , alot follow in ignorance and follow their forefathers. i am starting 2 repeat myself again and again, just becuz many claimants of shia may hate doesnt mean i do. becuz most r uneducated in Islam and like 2 believe what people tell em and everything that they hear
gogiison2 5 years ago
again putting your "words in my mouth" i dont hate any1
gogiison2 5 years ago
thats were u wrong u dont love when u dont follow their way of Islam , for instance a christian couldnt claim they loved Muhammed. and i never said hated any1 that is for God alone to judge.
gogiison2 5 years ago
why do you hate ameeri muawiya ra when hassan ra did bayah to him hussain ra was peaceful with him and even ali ra praised him in siffin
umarH1 5 years ago
the ahlibait were great people that sunnis love. however u hate the sahabah whilst the prophet pbuh and ahlibait loved them - this is the problem that u must address
umarH1 5 years ago
gogiison2 remember ali ra took care of abu bakr ra son when he passed away (muhammad ibne abu bakr ra)remember that almost half the shia imams are decendents of abu bakr ra
umarH1 5 years ago
basically its all he say she say with u mostly as i read what u write u believe everything u hear....i follow the Prophets Family while u can follow whoever u want. becuz i believe no1 knows more about Islam then the family n Prophet. Umar take care and find some unbiased approach thanks.
gogiison2 5 years ago
WHY? and why didnt they accept Ali's kids as caliphs afterward 2 keep ISLAM is your "so called family circle"
gogiison2 5 years ago
so if is was "this inner circle" of marriage supposedly...then why didnt Hussain and Hussan follow since "their sister married Umar supposedly" and maybe they were companions of the prophet when Muhammed was alive but what did they do when he left...appointed 1 abu bakr knowing he's a man and men make mistakes, and why not Ali with abu bakr as a union..but of course they didnt do it this way
gogiison2 5 years ago
well if shia scholars claim ali gave his daughter 2 umar then why it the shia scholar still a shia and reject caliphs? any1 can claim 2 be a sunni/shia scholar 2 further distort,sorry about how many daughter of Muhammed i need to find out also. plz find the surah i will try also.Abu bakr was his companion AT THE TIME becuz he was accompanied by him. again he say she say about abu bakr leading after Muhammed.
gogiison2 5 years ago
gogiison2 see this is one of many things i dont get about shias how can u feel comfortable in dismissing the hadiths recorded by shia scholars just coz it doesnt fit the shia agenda. he cant be a proper scholar otherwise and is a fabricator
umarH1 5 years ago
ya u rite about Abu Bakr being companion but thats exactly what he was of the two that was in the cave at the moment. but no i dont agree with that shia scholar if thats indeed His own and not fabricated statement made by him. but maybe it is true, again hadiths can be written by anyone claiming anything, but i dont believe this inner circle of marriage which u claim, or else Hussan n Hussain would of followed Calpih and vice versa
gogiison2 5 years ago
but about these protests and cursing at others n killing others i am against.let God judge and only God..Islam teaches PEACE, shia n sunni or wahabi or whoever have 2 accept this.
gogiison2 5 years ago
the prophet pbuh chose abu bakr ra as imam when he was ill which is the highest position in sharia prophet pbuh chose abu bakr ra as ameer of the final hajj prophet pbuh called him khaleel and said the sacrifice of abu bakr ra outweighs that of the whole uumah
umarH1 5 years ago
if u read the history abu bakr ra was fearful coz he thought it would be the end of the prophet pbuh but the prophet pbuh could see angles protecting them hence he told abu bakr ra not to fear what do u think of allah swt calling abu bkar ra a companion and the second of the two - surely those that curse abu bakr ra are kaffir coz they are going against the quran
umarH1 5 years ago
prophet pbuh had more than one daughter as allah swt stated in the quran il get the verse for u. u r just twisted. usman ra married two of them and dont tell me they were his step daughters coz u just lying then
umarH1 5 years ago
even kulyani the "trust of shia islam" admits that ali ra gave his daughter to umar ra. its in the shia books. so who are u to disAgree with a great shia scholar???
umarH1 5 years ago
and here are the hadiths from these sources
Imam Jafar said:
"When Umar died, Ali came over to Umme-Kulthum, held her by the hand and took her home"
Imam Baqer said :
"Ali's daughter Umme-Kulthum and her son Zaid bin Umar bin al-Khattab, died at the same time. No one knew who died first. Therefore none of them was made the inheritor of the other, and their funeral prayers were offerred simultaneously"
umarH1 5 years ago
as for umme kulsoom binte ali here is the source from al kafi - Kitab-ut-Talaq, Chapter Al-Mutwaffi anha Zaujuha, Vol 6, P.115-116,Chapter Mirath-ul-Furqi wa Mehdum, Vol 9, P.262
umarH1 5 years ago
just as chapter 2:6,7 it basically talks bout people even with the truth b4 themeselves will dsregard becuz of shields on their hearts and over their eyes and ear...plz dont quote me of anything i say im just giving my example. so may Allah show mercy becuz i am not perfect in translating hid Quran..but brother Umar u know what i mean.
gogiison2 5 years ago
surah QASAS chapter 28:56 doesnt have any unanimous decision. it basically talks about not all be guided right. which we know the ones that rejected Muhammed were indeed the real losers.
gogiison2 5 years ago
yes Umar u are right Abu Bakr was in the cave with Propeht Muhammed when Hijjra started while Ali was sleep in the prophets bed in disguise of being the prophet against the enemies trying 2 kill Muhammeed. so Abu bakr met near the cave and they hid there where Abu bakr was in fear of enemies where the Prophet had 2 reassure that the enemies are losers and God is with the Prophet and Islam.(pertaining 2 Abu's fear)
gogiison2 5 years ago
and then sunni dont accept the actual Grandsons as calpihs or "teachers of Islam" for these biased reasons i chose shia becuz just as we say jesus' mother mary was holy we beleive in here, justas prophet Ibrahim and Ishmeal and Isaac we believe the family Holy same applies here.. inshallah God will show us the right way of Islam that he taught and not let us learn rumors or let Satan interfere w/ our learnings and teachings Inshallah
gogiison2 5 years ago
my dad was sunni so i took an unbiased approach to this whole thing,after all the info i gathered i converted.its just common sense like why would Muhammed give his ONLY daughter 2 Ali and not Abu Bakr and if sunni follow Ali. then why not his and Fatimas sons(grandsons of the Prophet) they stopped at Ali with the caliphate meaning a non family member of Muhammed being (Abu Bakr)was 1st caliph ,
gogiison2 5 years ago
1st of all Sunnis claimed that Ali's daugnter was married 2 Kulthoom. when us shia say the sunnis fabricated this lie in thier hadiths to cause confusion. aside from that i was looking online and i saw that there were many "kulthoom's" at the time of Umar the caliph. and also if Ali's daughter indeed did marry Umar, then wouldnt her brothers Hassan and Hussain follow Umar and there wud be no confusion they wud be a part of Ahlul Bait"
gogiison2 5 years ago
gogiison2 dont worry il check the verse and get back to you. why dont you check surah qisas verse 56 about talib dying without iman and surah tawbah verse 40 about abu bakr ra called a companion by allah swt
umarH1 5 years ago
hassan ra did bayah to ameeri muawiya ra. ali ra did marry his daughter to umar ra and they had a son called zayd. whats the shia answers to these???
umarH1 5 years ago
gogiison2 ive read nahajul balagha and its just a bunch of made up lies. where the isnaads or the proofs its true the sahabahs had their own masjids but the main masjid was the prophets majid pbuh where they all were and the prophet chose abu bakr ra hence he was the best
umarH1 5 years ago
if indeed what the sunni "claim to be true" about what Prophet Muhammed "said" about Abu Bakr leading and Ali and Umar and Uthman as superiors , then why did they all lead at seperate times and not as 1 union. this leads me to believe they didnt have each others counsils but instead ruled how they wanted individually as apposed 2 Ali, who ruled from what he learned from Quran and sunnat from Muhammaed and not follow how Caliphs ruled.
gogiison2 5 years ago
and no we dont agree Umar married Ali's daughter...becuz then wouldnt Ali's sons approve of Umar n Uthman n Abu Bakr as well??? obviously they didnt for a reason, many people distort hadiths and christians did distort the teaching Jesus.
gogiison2 5 years ago
my sunni brothers plz read Naj Al Balaghah before u wanna argue with shia's views..if u indeed follow Imam Ali.
gogiison2 5 years ago
and whats this...shias dont claim Ali over Muhammed, these are just distorted stories by people wanting to mislead.(kaffirs) ...i am shia and i will never say Ali was supposed 2 be a prophet..
gogiison2 5 years ago
read chapter 33 verse 33 of the Quran ..tell me what u think when it refers 2 "family" its obvious the Quran was revealed 2 the Prophet and he was the 1st to demonstrate these actions amongst which family?? u guyz answer that Umar h 1 ?
gogiison2 5 years ago
1st of all about UmarH1 i dunno bout Abu Bakr leading any prayers..maybe he did but we shia believe in the Prophets family as in hadiths it declares the prophet said "Ali is to me as Aaron was to Moses" se we follow the family 1st becuz it was the holy bloodline, im not saying sunni is wrong, but who is more right than shia,and why wud prophet let Ali marry his Only daughter and not Abu Bakr?? its small logic that makes sense.
gogiison2 5 years ago
there are islamic teachings that explain that extremists that claim to be 'muslim" are the real losers. how can we kill innocent people...alotta sunnis and shia are extremists and claim Islam , yet islam dont teach killing for no reason. this is all Satan's work 2 cause separation of Adams children. any1 can claim " i am muslim" but u have to act it
gogiison2 5 years ago
just as i believe some of the prophets fam died of poisioning , doesnt mean we shud poision ourselves, alot of muslims today follow out of ignorance and follow their forefathers as Christians did, we have to seek truth and understanding and read 4 ourselves
gogiison2 5 years ago
i can understand if we just hit our chest in a soft manner 2 commemorate but not kill ourselves. just as the prophets family were tortured if they cried or mourned for their sons when they were captured by Yazzid i believe it was, not sure tho, so instead of crying they hit their bussoms 2 releave some pain.
gogiison2 5 years ago
im shia. but i think people that beat themselves with knives are wrongand 4 inflicting pain on yaself..i underdstand shias try 2 commemorate but i was in Pakistan and some people actually died doing the beating of themeselves with knives and how can we answer 2 our 1 Allah after we die and say "i killed myself"
gogiison2 5 years ago
why are these ahaadiths unauthentic then? u jus cant dismiss ur own hadiths that goes against your hatred
umarH1 5 years ago
god u guys should think about this and GROW up look im only 16 and its freakin common sence that u shouldnt be doing this yet u still do. im sorry bes i think i lost alot of respect 4 alot of u from wat i read and i dont even know u....sta5farallah yalla inshalla it all works out 4 evry1 of u..salam
iraqiprep19 5 years ago