Thank you so much for making this Lecture series available....I am making changes now that I am waking up out of my deception. I plan to share this information with all my family and friends. May the Lord Jesus bless you Mark and you too jumanous!
I would like to order this 23 DVD set. Where can I get an address so that I can mail a check for the amount and how much is the total? I do not do credit/debit cards, so I cannot order off of the site.
@Imaginefree69 I agree with a few provisos... Chrisitians are to strive for a sinless state; the 144,000 will be completely unified in truth and follow the commandments of God (not the unity in error that many christians are looking for)
jumanous says "Chrisitians are to strive for a sinless state" The Bible says "whosoever sinneth, hath not seen him, nor known him. .. LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU. He that commmitteth sin is of the devil. Whosoever is born of God, COMMITTETH NOT SIN: for his seed abideth in him, and he CAN NOT SIN, because he is born of God." 1 John 3 Take your pick.
jumanous says "Chrisitians are to strive for a sinless state" The Bible says "whosoever sinneth, hath not seen him, nor known him. .. LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU. He that commmitteth sin is of the devil. Whosoever is born of God, COMMITTETH NOT SIN: for his seed abideth in him, and he CAN NOT SIN, because he is born of God." 1 John 3 Take your pick.
" the 144,000 will be completely unified in truth"
But Jesus prayed in John 17
"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me."
@Imaginefree69 because of the state of most people these days, it is hard for them to come at the 1888 doctrine. The best explanation I have seen was in the Jim Hohnberger videos on my channel.
@Imaginefree69 nah, not blavatsky (she's a satanist), I'm talking the 1888 Jones and Wagyner doctrine of overcoming sin before the close of probation.
@Imaginefree69 to be prejudiced is to prejudge something without looking into it. I think you need to analyze who is prejudiced here, given the doctrine you were pushing was identical to theirs (which they got from the bible) and we both agree with it. God sent a prophet for the last days, and it just so happens you agree with the writings of the prophet against the standard beliefs of Christianity, which you should be very happy about!
@Imaginefree69 I believe you've met no person, because you are not looking in the right place. i.e. the perfection doctrine is very much taught by Ellen G. White, the prophet of the old SDA church. Most of them don't believe in her writings now, which is why you wouldn't find many (if any) born again in the SDA churches, however I think you should check up on the camp obadiah sermons on markwoodman . org. I think you will find you are in complete agreeance with their doctrines.
You will find it is just the same as all the other corrupted bibles.. accept this one was created in a catholic university.
Get yourself a KJV and read it for 2 weeks, looking up the words you don't know (there are around 22 words that aren't in common usage today, including "Thou" which I'm sure you understand). After 2 weeks of reading a chapter a night, you will have no problem understanding it as well as you would any modern translation.
If you go to markwoodman . org there is a short article on the front page about the bibles, which is a good start.
If you want more info, just send me a message and I will direct you to some more comprehensive resources on the topic. There is a lot out there. Walter Veith does a particularly good run down, going through westcott and hort's letters, showing how they have intentionally changed the bible (their text is the basis for all the corrupted bibles)
One thing you can be assured of, if you are reading the KJV you are reading the word of God. Any of the others, you will come across perversion after perversion. It is quite disturbing when you get into it, however, fairly clear cut when you search it out.
I used to read the Bible alot, but it too has been corrupted. Follow the work of Bart D. Erhman.
Just the lost of meaning from the Hebrew/Greek to English alone creates alot of problems. Then there' s the manipulation by the so-called Early Church Fathers... so much corruption, and changes - who can be sure anymore.
History is replete with "Church" leaders who were "infallible" only to be discovered far from such purity.
Believe in God if you will (I do) I just have no faith in man...
sorry, I can't agree with that unless you are talking about Westcott and Horts abomination. The Textus Receptus and the non-starlingrad Masoretic are perfect (which the KJV was based on). The dead sea scrolls isaiah scroll is a prime example. Not to mention the many thousands of different copies spread around the Christian world before 200AD and then copied.. and when brought back together they perfectly match up.
thanks for the insight. i consider myself a purist and reject found gospels especially since the government has conspired to place fabricated writings in an attempt to discredit christianity via project bluebeam. im so nervous im afraid to even read my own bible for fear it has been corrupted. i am from no denomination. i trust only the word of GOD and the divinity of YESHUA
what do you know about the book of enoch and why was it omitted? i also hear A LOT that the apostle paul was a bad dude. something about he doesnt refer to christ as THE LORD but rather as lord and such other things. please do not judge my name. i am a believer
A lot of people attacking Paul's writings lately however, it is very clear, everything he says is in accordance with the rest of the bible. If at surface value it appears as if it isn't, it is just a problem of the reader. Also if he sounds different in style to the others, it is because he is preaching to the gentiles. He had to use other methods to get to them. Which is why books like Romans make so much sense to people of today. They are often misunderstood, but that is besides the point
As far as Enoch, there are books out there which were found in the 17th century, however, I would be very cautious in taking any doctrine from them. We couldn't be 100% sure they are unchanged, as there isn't an unbroken line. Interesting to read though, as is the book of Jasher. But again, I wouldn't take doctrine from them. We just can't be sure of their origin.
the KJV / Authorised Version is the only accurate English version of the bible. All the rest have been seriously corrupted by the counter reformation / new age movements.
That said, errors can be made in understanding it due to the different usage of words, but that can be gotten around with e-sword and the strongs links. After learning the background of all the other bibles, I wouldn't even touch a non-kjv and call it a bible. There is ample evidence that they were intentionally changed.
Excellent work Mark......The blessing of the most high is upon you.
freeman777ist 7 months ago
Thank you so much for making this Lecture series available....I am making changes now that I am waking up out of my deception. I plan to share this information with all my family and friends. May the Lord Jesus bless you Mark and you too jumanous!
Zeden2010 1 year ago 6
@Zeden2010 my pleasure. I glad you enjoy them :)
jumanous 1 year ago 6
I would like to order this 23 DVD set. Where can I get an address so that I can mail a check for the amount and how much is the total? I do not do credit/debit cards, so I cannot order off of the site.
Zeden2010 1 year ago 3
@Zeden2010 I believe if you email steps, they will be happy to accept a cheque. steps . org . au will be the place to go.
jumanous 1 year ago 4
More deceptions:
Christians deny that
- to be born again means to be sinless
- the bible is filled with simple scientific errors
- the Bible is filled with contradictions
- the bible portrays YHWH as a sadistic tyrant
- YHVH is the creator and cause of all evil
- Christians are REQUIRED to be loving and unified
- doctrine is unimportant, compared to obeying and imitating Jesus
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 I agree with a few provisos... Chrisitians are to strive for a sinless state; the 144,000 will be completely unified in truth and follow the commandments of God (not the unity in error that many christians are looking for)
jumanous 1 year ago 5
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Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 yeah, I agree with the 1888 message, I just was saying it in a slightly softer way!
jumanous 1 year ago
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Imaginefree69 1 year ago
" the 144,000 will be completely unified in truth"
But Jesus prayed in John 17
"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me."
And for whom was he praying?
"as many as thou hast given him (Jesus)."
Those to whom "he should give eternal life."
Nothing here about 144,000.
This applies to all who have eternal life.
Peace, jumanous.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 because of the state of most people these days, it is hard for them to come at the 1888 doctrine. The best explanation I have seen was in the Jim Hohnberger videos on my channel.
jumanous 1 year ago 5
If you are referring to Helena P. Blavatsky's work,
it's just another religion.
But why are you even referring to it?
In what way is this responsive to my comment?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 nah, not blavatsky (she's a satanist), I'm talking the 1888 Jones and Wagyner doctrine of overcoming sin before the close of probation.
jumanous 1 year ago 5
"1888 Jones and Wagyner doctrine"
What possible interest do we have in 1888 denominational doctrines?
I prefer to stick to the text of the Bible,
not to denominational, predigested pap.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 to be prejudiced is to prejudge something without looking into it. I think you need to analyze who is prejudiced here, given the doctrine you were pushing was identical to theirs (which they got from the bible) and we both agree with it. God sent a prophet for the last days, and it just so happens you agree with the writings of the prophet against the standard beliefs of Christianity, which you should be very happy about!
jumanous 1 year ago 8
"it just so happens you agree with the writings of the prophet"
No, you are making an erroneous assumption there.
I believe in neither god(s) not prophets.
I'm just pointing out that I've met NO Christians
who meet the Bible's description of a born-again person.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 I believe you've met no person, because you are not looking in the right place. i.e. the perfection doctrine is very much taught by Ellen G. White, the prophet of the old SDA church. Most of them don't believe in her writings now, which is why you wouldn't find many (if any) born again in the SDA churches, however I think you should check up on the camp obadiah sermons on markwoodman . org. I think you will find you are in complete agreeance with their doctrines.
jumanous 1 year ago 8
@Imaginefree69 oh wait.. so you aren't a Christian in any way... or a believer in the bible or God?
jumanous 1 year ago 7
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"so you aren't a Christian in any way... or a believer in the bible or God?"
Very good, jumanous.
Yo picked that up in less than a week!
I also have no interest and very little knowledge of the SDA.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
can i trust The New Jerusalem Bible?
silentweirdo88 2 years ago
only if you trust the pope.
You will find it is just the same as all the other corrupted bibles.. accept this one was created in a catholic university.
Get yourself a KJV and read it for 2 weeks, looking up the words you don't know (there are around 22 words that aren't in common usage today, including "Thou" which I'm sure you understand). After 2 weeks of reading a chapter a night, you will have no problem understanding it as well as you would any modern translation.
jumanous 2 years ago 4
I'm confused... what are the differences between all these versions... can u give me an example of the corruption of the bibles?
silentweirdo88 2 years ago
If you go to markwoodman . org there is a short article on the front page about the bibles, which is a good start.
If you want more info, just send me a message and I will direct you to some more comprehensive resources on the topic. There is a lot out there. Walter Veith does a particularly good run down, going through westcott and hort's letters, showing how they have intentionally changed the bible (their text is the basis for all the corrupted bibles)
jumanous 2 years ago 4
One thing you can be assured of, if you are reading the KJV you are reading the word of God. Any of the others, you will come across perversion after perversion. It is quite disturbing when you get into it, however, fairly clear cut when you search it out.
jumanous 2 years ago 6
I used to read the Bible alot, but it too has been corrupted. Follow the work of Bart D. Erhman.
Just the lost of meaning from the Hebrew/Greek to English alone creates alot of problems. Then there' s the manipulation by the so-called Early Church Fathers... so much corruption, and changes - who can be sure anymore.
History is replete with "Church" leaders who were "infallible" only to be discovered far from such purity.
Believe in God if you will (I do) I just have no faith in man...
calvlac73 2 years ago
sorry, I can't agree with that unless you are talking about Westcott and Horts abomination. The Textus Receptus and the non-starlingrad Masoretic are perfect (which the KJV was based on). The dead sea scrolls isaiah scroll is a prime example. Not to mention the many thousands of different copies spread around the Christian world before 200AD and then copied.. and when brought back together they perfectly match up.
jumanous 2 years ago 4
thanks for the insight. i consider myself a purist and reject found gospels especially since the government has conspired to place fabricated writings in an attempt to discredit christianity via project bluebeam. im so nervous im afraid to even read my own bible for fear it has been corrupted. i am from no denomination. i trust only the word of GOD and the divinity of YESHUA
evilcore66 2 years ago
what do you know about the book of enoch and why was it omitted? i also hear A LOT that the apostle paul was a bad dude. something about he doesnt refer to christ as THE LORD but rather as lord and such other things. please do not judge my name. i am a believer
evilcore66 2 years ago
A lot of people attacking Paul's writings lately however, it is very clear, everything he says is in accordance with the rest of the bible. If at surface value it appears as if it isn't, it is just a problem of the reader. Also if he sounds different in style to the others, it is because he is preaching to the gentiles. He had to use other methods to get to them. Which is why books like Romans make so much sense to people of today. They are often misunderstood, but that is besides the point
jumanous 2 years ago 3
As far as Enoch, there are books out there which were found in the 17th century, however, I would be very cautious in taking any doctrine from them. We couldn't be 100% sure they are unchanged, as there isn't an unbroken line. Interesting to read though, as is the book of Jasher. But again, I wouldn't take doctrine from them. We just can't be sure of their origin.
jumanous 2 years ago 3
DO u reckon that the english standard bible is also closer to the original?
TheChannel4Truth 2 years ago
the KJV / Authorised Version is the only accurate English version of the bible. All the rest have been seriously corrupted by the counter reformation / new age movements.
That said, errors can be made in understanding it due to the different usage of words, but that can be gotten around with e-sword and the strongs links. After learning the background of all the other bibles, I wouldn't even touch a non-kjv and call it a bible. There is ample evidence that they were intentionally changed.
jumanous 2 years ago 2