Bjarne Stroustrup: Advice for C++ Developers

[sumittechkgp]

Greetings Bjarne! I still do not understand how and where shall I use this new standard (apart from new typedefs and lambdas). How about making a document with some nice use-cases which will trigger brain cells of weak people like me ? :(

[lordjavathe3rd]

Why is it that only a few humans rise to tackle a truly worthy challenge? Why don't we have more great people like him?

[moonsoonmenu]

@lordjavathe3rd lol I don't know, why are you on youtube and not out there doing something?

[105jrt]

What does that tell you Bjarne? Perhaps it's overly complicated, bloated and the wrong tool for most situations!!

[CanadianByAccident]

People who don't understand pointers learn Java/C#/VB.

People who don't understand classes learn C.

People who want to make themselves look like programmers learn PHP/JavaScript/Whatever.

Real programmers program in C++.

[FelixMaxwell]

@CanadianByAccident :P

I understand Java on a level I never understood C++

It just seems to make sense... and I am fine not having to deal with pointers in exchange for being able to write code much faster than I otherwise would

There is no "Real" programing language... you gotta program in whatever works the best for you.

[stinky472]

@FelixMaxwell Problem with Java is that most people don't program it correctly. It's surprising but it was discovered that even some developers at Sun don't understand weak references which is such an important concept to understand in a system that applies GC for all UDTs: it's what helps avoid logical leaks and your average Java application tends to leak a lot. C, on the flip side, tends to have physical leaks when programmers aren't very careful but fewer logical leaks.

[stinky472]

@FelixMaxwell And finally, C++ is interesting because it allows a combination of the two techniques (selectively applying smart pointers, e.g.). Just using garbage collection as an example but C++ is like that; it tends to support a lot of concepts without requiring that they be used.

[tooklan]

@CanadianByAccident It doesn't matter what language you learn/know, its how you use it.

[xeodisc]

@CanadianByAccident And people who are actual developers and not just code monkeys can get in and design and implement in any of those languages with just a reference manual/google for syntax.

[Mnemonix8001]

@CanadianByAccident To be honest, I think you are talking absolute nonsense. If everybody programmed in JUST c++, then a lot of time would be wasted when simpler tasks could be done in Java or .NET or a scripting language. To say that real programmers only use c++ makes you sound like an elitist to be fair. Real programmers use the tool best suited to the task. (BTW, I know all of the languages you mentioned)

[tghgnjr]

@CanadianByAccident

best programmers program in C

[HenrikAH92]

@tghgnjr If you are programming for a specific platform then yeah C is great but when you want you'r program to work on multiple platforms, C++ is the way to go.

[stinky472]

@CanadianByAccident While I'm a C++ enthusiast, it's not fair to say real programmers program just in C++. That would be stupid. There are some things that C++ does well and some things that other languages do so much better (compare functional programming in C++ vs. Lisp or Haskell or how much easier it is to apply polymorphism in languages like Python). Where C++ shines is cost-free abstraction: it makes code that needs to be general but fast a lot easier to write.

[SinistaN]

C still rules everything. It's still here. BS couldn't kill it off. JG couldn't kill it off (or C++ for that matter). When you need a clean fast simple language to create the next generation of bullshit like c++ or java, plain vanilla C is a pretty handy thing to have at your disposal.

[TheMistHF]

C++ sucks so much ass VB.NET is so much more advanced.

[cp516]

@TheMistHF i loled. thank you

[Zero0097]

@TheMistHF sure thas why c++ for 20 years is in the best 3 programming languajes, betwen c and java, and VB? ho yeah after pascal en 19th place...not kidding just look index tiobe

[gianni820]

@TheMistHF your joking right? If your your not joking then I would research more. C++ is FAR more advanced and has FAR more capabilities.

[xeodisc]

@TheMistHF HAHAA TROLL

[JOKBO1]

@TheMistHF u are just saying that because c++ is harder to learn, and since u couldn't do so u stuck with the easy one...and:Name one big software that is made with VB.NET.That language is powerless compared to c++.

[weswii]

Im am not worthy of you advice.

[eCicerone]

The new standard C++ 0x (C++ 11 eg. 2011) has just been released, bye bye C++ 98 :)

[pufixas]

@eCicerone

are you kidding? if then C++ was released nobody stopped using C... C++ will be here for ever... just like any other programming language...

[eCicerone]

@pufixas

Sorry, I don't understand to what comment under this video you are relating to, I never said C++ is obsolete.

[pufixas]

@eCicerone

You said bye bye C++

[eCicerone]

@pufixas

No I didn't, I said "C++ 98"

You don't keep a track on the different versions? Then you don't know what 98 or Ox aka 11 stands for? :)

[pufixas]

@eCicerone

I don't, actually.

[stevezes]

13th

[GasolineWaltz]

I can't believe the number of idiots that are commenting on these videos.

"Bjarne Stroustrup, I'm not worthy" is the only thing you need to say.

[octav3k]

@GasolineWaltz Freedom of speech works both ways...

[warnexus]

a lot of great games were made with c++ . i would say c++ been used well

[answerOfstupids]

does he want to go to sleep.

[MrVirtualCoder]

@answerOfstupids He's Danish. Of course, he takes time to convert the Danish words to English ones.

[WinterXL]

@answerOfstupids How fast can you speak in Danish?

[usergroupX]

Here's the short if you have no time to listen : He is saying RTFM

[smikesmike05]

@usergroupX LOL xD

[linkuei83]

@usergroupX hahahah that's exactly my impression as well.

[pufixas]

@usergroupX

or got to antiRTFM channel :D

[synth3tik0]

sin cabello ni lentes se parece a bruce willis

[kidhau]

Buy His BOOK! it will help i started to read it only for 10 days i allready can right some simple programs!!

[MrFatality91]

Iv just started learning C++ and am going to buy his book, I hope ut helps me use it at its best it the future...

[labobo]

I've never really understood that "c with classes" thing.

An example would have been nice.

He also could have recommended a "good" c++ book too. So many c++ books out there that's bad.

[devshockgames]

@labobo C++ is is "C with classes" because C++ builds upon C as a super set and the biggest addition is classes

[gasto5]

@devshockgames It is no longer a superset of C, it has subtle differences that affect the common grounds.

[stinky472]

@devshockgames C++ is not C with classes. That would undermine so many other fundamental differences: templates for generic programming and metafunctions, destructors for RAII and one of the most effective models for exception-handling in any language, type safety, function overloading, operator overloading, namespaces, automatic type deduction (C++11), move semantics, anonymous functions (lambda expressions), etc.

[Pyware50]

So true