you are right! i used to treat t as ts and d as de at the past but i also found that foreigners speak them without much difference, now i can clarify them thx so much!
To yamthechamp : "...in english voiced obstruents are devoiced to some extent in final position in English, so the salient distinction between bad and bat is not the voicing of the final consonant but rather the duration of the vowel."
---quoted from h ttp://w ww.answers.com/topic/final-devoicing#English
@yamthechamp : "...in english voiced obstruents are devoiced to some extent in final position in English, so the salient distinction between bad and bat is not the voicing of the final consonant but rather the duration of the vowel."
---quoted from ht tp://ww w.answers.com/topic/final-devoicing#English
Although in general you have good command in English pronounication, you were incorrect here stating that there is no difference between the t and d sounds at the ends of the words illustrated in your video. Please check any British or American dictionary.
It's not so much the duration of the vowel in the middle but rather the ending itself. In a T ending, there's that puff of air while a D ending is more vocal.
Another problem Chinese people have is with the 'th' ending as in the word 'width'. There's no 'th' in Chinese.
The sounds of D and T are the same in general. The only difference is whether it's voiced or not. If you have studied phonetics, you would know it. If not, it's very difficult to tell here by typing.
Or, if you speak either Spanish or Italian you would know the D and T sounds are identical except one is voiced and another is unvoiced.
I think you don't know the phonetic system. Yes, any English dictionary will mark /t/ or /d/ for a pair of different words. But /t/ and /d/ are really totally the same except voicing. HK people pronounce /t/ with aspiration like /h/, but actually it's wrong.
This is exactly why this series of vids are so awesome and so important for NON-NATIVE speakers !!! People, except genious, cannot learn a language just by imitating unless they are children or babies. You can throw a 30 yr old HK man to US and after 20 years he will speak "like" American but with huge and very noticable accent because that dude would just "imitate" but never learn the proper way to pronounciate.
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Jazzcoooool 2 weeks ago
學英文真煩!正仆街
shinchan446 3 weeks ago
you are right! i used to treat t as ts and d as de at the past but i also found that foreigners speak them without much difference, now i can clarify them thx so much!
myprettychilde 2 months ago
撐!!
CingCan 1 year ago
Thanks soooo much!!
you help me a lot 8D
htc241096 1 year ago
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To yamthechamp : "...in english voiced obstruents are devoiced to some extent in final position in English, so the salient distinction between bad and bat is not the voicing of the final consonant but rather the duration of the vowel."
---quoted from h ttp://w ww.answers.com/topic/final-devoicing#English
please tell me if this is correct.
felixck 1 year ago
@yamthechamp : "...in english voiced obstruents are devoiced to some extent in final position in English, so the salient distinction between bad and bat is not the voicing of the final consonant but rather the duration of the vowel."
---quoted from ht tp://ww w.answers.com/topic/final-devoicing#English
please tell me if this is correct.
felixck 1 year ago
Although in general you have good command in English pronounication, you were incorrect here stating that there is no difference between the t and d sounds at the ends of the words illustrated in your video. Please check any British or American dictionary.
yamthechamp 2 years ago
To yamthechamp,
Mr. Siu is right. The sounds T & D are generally the same. In phonetics, T is a voiceless consonant while D is a voiced consonant.
The mechanisms of making these two sounds are no different except you vocal cords need to vibrate when you make the voiced sound.
louie2003louie 2 years ago 5
It's not so much the duration of the vowel in the middle but rather the ending itself. In a T ending, there's that puff of air while a D ending is more vocal.
Another problem Chinese people have is with the 'th' ending as in the word 'width'. There's no 'th' in Chinese.
QXQ29 2 years ago
The sounds of D and T are the same in general. The only difference is whether it's voiced or not. If you have studied phonetics, you would know it. If not, it's very difficult to tell here by typing.
Or, if you speak either Spanish or Italian you would know the D and T sounds are identical except one is voiced and another is unvoiced.
louie2003louie 2 years ago
I think you don't know the phonetic system. Yes, any English dictionary will mark /t/ or /d/ for a pair of different words. But /t/ and /d/ are really totally the same except voicing. HK people pronounce /t/ with aspiration like /h/, but actually it's wrong.
MissTsiqsin 1 year ago
This is exactly why this series of vids are so awesome and so important for NON-NATIVE speakers !!! People, except genious, cannot learn a language just by imitating unless they are children or babies. You can throw a 30 yr old HK man to US and after 20 years he will speak "like" American but with huge and very noticable accent because that dude would just "imitate" but never learn the proper way to pronounciate.
HKOregon 2 years ago 9
thz for clarifying the differences between voiced and voiceless consonant & also listing out a lot of minimal pairs =)
chateau0219 3 years ago 2
Sorry,but i'm afraid that i couldn't agree wif u.There IS difference between 't'and'd'.
1024sinnnn 3 years ago 2
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poorchinesekid 4 years ago
watch more youtube will do
buddiha 4 years ago
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huh...? are you trying to teach them how to say things
Alas777 4 years ago
dude you know how much time he spent on this?
kvuerroa 4 years ago
thank you...
musemckay 4 years ago