Norman Treigle - bass - Die Zauberflote "In diesen heil'gen Hallen"

[bedove77]

Justino Diaz, with Juan Pons,wose bass.baritones never I heard:) and above all as Jago

[cocochanelleke]

I wouldn't be surprised if Treigle was a bilingual speaker of German and American.

And of German-African American descent. At a time when both was difficult politically and personally.

Was and is.

[robert72744]

@ Swing Shoes: I remember your father very well from the many roles he did at City Opera , especially the premiere of Ginastera's "Bomarzo." He was a wonderful tenor and a great colleague too!

[robert72744]

I had the great pleasure to stand on the same stage as Treigle when I was a member of the NYCO Chorus (1967-77). He has left an indelible mark on me. One other extremely powerful singing actor whom I had the honor of sharing the stage at the MET while a member of that great chorus (1977-01) was Jon Vickers. If I had to name the 2 most powerful and moving performers in all of opera, it would be Treigle and Vickers. Treigle as Mephisto in both the Gounod and Boito versions was the greatest of all!

[SwingShoes]

@robert72744 My father Salvador Novoa (as Faust in Boito's Mefisto) sang with Treigle during the the 1971 season. Treigle is my favorite Boito Mefisto ever.

[christyinseattle]

What a beautiful, beautiful voice!

[abracadabranque]

Transposé et un peu dur mais honorable.

[bedove77]

@abracadabranque

Très dur,et pas de souplesse....Mais j'aime bien fort tes écrits: ici chacun devient Caruso,sans toi. Bien fait mon ami

[abracadabranque]

@bedove77 La flagornerie est du domaine des courtisans,et non des artistes.La pommade et l'encens sont les pires ennemis du talent.D'ailleurs,le critique le plus sévère d'un véritable artiste,c'est lui-même!..

[robertwbecker]

Yeah, what a pity that he smoked himself to death!!!!!!!!!

[artdanks]

I never forgave him for killing himself by smoking 3 packs a day! What a waste! He was my favorite bass-baritones of all time!

[cocochanelleke]

@artdanks

He didn't, did he? If he did. you may try to forgive him because smoke addiction is worse than heroin addiction.

Anyway, I share your feelings about his voice.

And that's the spirit as long as we live.

Night-night from here,

Coco

[artdanks]

Well, yes...I actually do forgive him....just wish he hadn't as it snuffed out his life WAY too early. Have a great day! :-)

[llauderd]

I grew up listening to Norman Treigle sing at FBCNO and with the New Orleans Opera. My Mother accompanied him at church. I have never heard another voice like his. His early demise was a tremendous loss to the world of music.

[cocochanelleke]

His German is excellent, too.

I wasn't brought up with classic music, but voices like his drew me to it.

Thanks very much again for posting.

[796824]

Not a true Bass. Listen to IVAR ANDRESEN

[foropera]

Of course, he was a bass-baritone and sang Iago. But no true bass sang Iago too...

[bassfanne45]

@foropera Justino Diaz was another bass-baritone who sang Iago...and very well. His MacBeth (Yes, MacBeth, not Banco) was not so good. The voice sounded very strained as MacBeth. The MacBeth is on YouTube if you want to check it out, as is the Iago.

[stevevandien]

Jerome Hines, whom I much respect and admire, once suggested that Treigle's low notes were not good. Apparently Hines never heard this recording. Some critics asserted that Treigle's voice was "sinewy" and "throaty." Well, I hear no throatiness in this recording; and it is certainly a full sound, which would seem to argue against the "sinewy" charge -- assuming I understand what the hell that means (thin and stringy?) --

[jerryguest]

Your are right to respect Jerome Hines: one of the great basses of all times.He was tall enough, almost, to sit on the Steinway and his feet would be on the floor. And he did say some nasty things about Treigle (particularly about his low F). But believe me Treigle's voice was huge, his timbre a godly lustre. In my first opera with him--he put on my makeup .

[foropera]

And in addition, Treigle was a bass baritone rather than a pure bass profundo. He could sing Iago in Otello too ans Scarpia. So, it yet a miracle he had such a long ambitus.

[stevevandien]

Thanks very much. Would you be willing to share more of your memories of Treigle? Either privately or on this site? I've a friend who heard him live several times. My friend tells me Treigle's voice was so large that it belied and even dwarfed his remarkably skinny physique -- Best, Steve

[cocochanelleke]

@stevevandien

Perhaps a bit of "Berufsneid" on their part?

[BrianJosephMorgan]

For Treigle fans, including jerryguest, I would suggest my book, "Strange Child of Chaos: Norman Treigle" (iUniverse, 2006), which includes a discography and videography. (He recorded two recital-albums for Westminster.)

[BrianJosephMorgan]

This is from Norman Treigle's first recital album, "Norman Treigle Performs Bass/Baritone Arias from Italian, French and German Opera," recorded in Vienna, in June 1967.

[jerryguest]

I'm a 70 yo bass-baritone, still singing for the people. I sang on stage with Norman Treigle when I was an early teen. He's always been my hero. But I know of only one solo album--I could be wrong. HEROES AND VILLAINS was I think the title. Do you have this album? I lost mine many years ago.

[habibymaria]

thanks Coco

Really profound human song!

Miss u

maria

[cocochanelleke]

@ gnativerson

Thanks for posting, very much appreciated!

Tschüssi - keep well.

[FriendlyCroock]

That was very nice Thank you

[CurzonRoad]

Thank you.... very much!