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  • The original builder of Shays was Ephriam Shay, himself. After home-building a few, he leased his patent rights to Lima Machine Works. So, Lima was NOT the only builder of Shays!

  • Note to ripjump12 -- all three major American builders and ALCo-Montreal built Berkshires. The first 2-8-4 tender locomotive came from Baldwin for the ATSF. It was a one-off, not repeated. If you look at an Erie roster, you will find 2-8-4s from ALCo, BLW and Lima.

  • You're invited to visit the newly expanded Allen County Museum in Lima, Ohio featuring Shay Engine #10 of the Lima Stone Company - built in 1925. It's a 24 ton, two truck Shay.

  • that is my rrm inbc canada

  • Nice overview of Lima's products, from two-truck Shays (the mainstay of the Mt. Tamalpais & Muir Woods) to 2-10-4 Super Power freighters to trailer-boosted 4-8-4's for passenger expresses. BTW, the "Nickel Plate" 2-8-2 this video was officially called New York, Chicago & St. Louis (NYC&SL) #765.

  • C&O 614 was one of the last steamers to roll out of the shops in 1948.

    Len.

  • if you want to get technical the last steam locomotive to leave Lima locomotives works would of been the 765 it stayed there for a few years in the late 80's or early 90's i remember going there and working on it as a young boy before getting the shop it is at now

  • wrong lima did not make all the shays

  • oh yes they did

  • wrong....pacific coast made shays after the dealwith Lima ran out...check your history

  • actually all the shay photos in this vildeo are made only by lima. Some shays were made by pacific coast but all the pictures in this are lima.

  • correct. Yea the ones in this vid are all Lima but i was just seeing if anybody would pick up that there was actually another company that made them...haha NYC had shays!!

  • yeah try baldwin and ALCO , and Brooks works.

    Len.

    Steamtown Co- Volunteer Lead for Project 565

  • Williamette made some shays and other engines, so there were at least two companies making shays. Lima was the most well known at the time.

  • Lima was the only builder to build "shays". There was a company in Oregon named Willamette that built a similar locomotive with many improvements over the original shay design. That is why Lima came up with the "Pacific Coast Shay" models, so LIMA could compete better against WIllamette. Willamette is named after the river in Oregon and it rhymes with the curse word "dammit". I don't remember seeing a Shay patent plate on the cab of any Willamettes.

  • but the thing is, LIMA did not make pacific coast shays, it was a different company says every source I have checked.

  • Nicholas Breeden

    Check the book "LIMA, The History" by Eric Hirsimaki, published by Hundman. Chapter 10 "Walking with Confidence" page 146-148 discusses the "The Pacific Coast Shay" models and why LIMA choose to build them. Basically LIMA came up with the Pacific Coast Shay to better compete with Heisler, Climax, And Willamette Iron & Steel Works of Portland, Oregon. Nicholas you are wrong, now apologize to ripjump12 and traindude666 , and lets move on!

  • now what was the shay that was alot smaller than the shay. it was by gilplin russel if im right.

  • Lima built a small 2-foot gauge Shay for the Gilpin Tram in Colorado. I don't have the data in front of me right now.

    You could look it up yourself in "LIMA,The History" by Hirsimaki, or "Titan of Timber" by Koch. I don't know how close you live to Lima,Ohio. The Lima Public Library has both books in their collection.

  • Whould have been cool just to see the Shay erecting shops and from from what I was told is that they took them to a quary that was close by and had a test track and they used that to test out the Shay's

  • I whent out there and there was all gawn exept for the office building. Would have been nice if they could have saved it but was probably to expensive to keep up

  • Actauly all thats left is the xray house. It is still used by the Lima Tank plant.

  • Lima's excuse was that the site was ruining business and was in disrepair. I doubt that excuse cuase of its mostly steel construction.

  • Just think of the impact this company had on our country. One can argue this company helped get us out of the (1st) Depression, + they built the 4449 and the 759 + a bunch of other extremly successful designs.

  • the praire dog central #3 wasn't built by lima, it was built in scotland.

  • oh sorry for the messup STUPID GOOGLE SEARCH ENGINE

  • Nice Tribute!

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