The original builder of Shays was Ephriam Shay, himself. After home-building a few, he leased his patent rights to Lima Machine Works. So, Lima was NOT the only builder of Shays!
Note to ripjump12 -- all three major American builders and ALCo-Montreal built Berkshires. The first 2-8-4 tender locomotive came from Baldwin for the ATSF. It was a one-off, not repeated. If you look at an Erie roster, you will find 2-8-4s from ALCo, BLW and Lima.
You're invited to visit the newly expanded Allen County Museum in Lima, Ohio featuring Shay Engine #10 of the Lima Stone Company - built in 1925. It's a 24 ton, two truck Shay.
Nice overview of Lima's products, from two-truck Shays (the mainstay of the Mt. Tamalpais & Muir Woods) to 2-10-4 Super Power freighters to trailer-boosted 4-8-4's for passenger expresses. BTW, the "Nickel Plate" 2-8-2 this video was officially called New York, Chicago & St. Louis (NYC&SL) #765.
if you want to get technical the last steam locomotive to leave Lima locomotives works would of been the 765 it stayed there for a few years in the late 80's or early 90's i remember going there and working on it as a young boy before getting the shop it is at now
correct. Yea the ones in this vid are all Lima but i was just seeing if anybody would pick up that there was actually another company that made them...haha NYC had shays!!
Lima was the only builder to build "shays". There was a company in Oregon named Willamette that built a similar locomotive with many improvements over the original shay design. That is why Lima came up with the "Pacific Coast Shay" models, so LIMA could compete better against WIllamette. Willamette is named after the river in Oregon and it rhymes with the curse word "dammit". I don't remember seeing a Shay patent plate on the cab of any Willamettes.
Check the book "LIMA, The History" by Eric Hirsimaki, published by Hundman. Chapter 10 "Walking with Confidence" page 146-148 discusses the "The Pacific Coast Shay" models and why LIMA choose to build them. Basically LIMA came up with the Pacific Coast Shay to better compete with Heisler, Climax, And Willamette Iron & Steel Works of Portland, Oregon. Nicholas you are wrong, now apologize to ripjump12 and traindude666 , and lets move on!
Lima built a small 2-foot gauge Shay for the Gilpin Tram in Colorado. I don't have the data in front of me right now.
You could look it up yourself in "LIMA,The History" by Hirsimaki, or "Titan of Timber" by Koch. I don't know how close you live to Lima,Ohio. The Lima Public Library has both books in their collection.
Whould have been cool just to see the Shay erecting shops and from from what I was told is that they took them to a quary that was close by and had a test track and they used that to test out the Shay's
I whent out there and there was all gawn exept for the office building. Would have been nice if they could have saved it but was probably to expensive to keep up
Just think of the impact this company had on our country. One can argue this company helped get us out of the (1st) Depression, + they built the 4449 and the 759 + a bunch of other extremly successful designs.
The original builder of Shays was Ephriam Shay, himself. After home-building a few, he leased his patent rights to Lima Machine Works. So, Lima was NOT the only builder of Shays!
jppicur 1 month ago
Note to ripjump12 -- all three major American builders and ALCo-Montreal built Berkshires. The first 2-8-4 tender locomotive came from Baldwin for the ATSF. It was a one-off, not repeated. If you look at an Erie roster, you will find 2-8-4s from ALCo, BLW and Lima.
jppicur 1 month ago
You're invited to visit the newly expanded Allen County Museum in Lima, Ohio featuring Shay Engine #10 of the Lima Stone Company - built in 1925. It's a 24 ton, two truck Shay.
otisgpug 9 months ago
that is my rrm inbc canada
trainknut 11 months ago
Nice overview of Lima's products, from two-truck Shays (the mainstay of the Mt. Tamalpais & Muir Woods) to 2-10-4 Super Power freighters to trailer-boosted 4-8-4's for passenger expresses. BTW, the "Nickel Plate" 2-8-2 this video was officially called New York, Chicago & St. Louis (NYC&SL) #765.
bcschmerker 1 year ago
C&O 614 was one of the last steamers to roll out of the shops in 1948.
Len.
Conrail6370 2 years ago
if you want to get technical the last steam locomotive to leave Lima locomotives works would of been the 765 it stayed there for a few years in the late 80's or early 90's i remember going there and working on it as a young boy before getting the shop it is at now
cobydickl 1 year ago
wrong lima did not make all the shays
nicholasbreeden 2 years ago
oh yes they did
traindude666 2 years ago
wrong....pacific coast made shays after the dealwith Lima ran out...check your history
nicholasbreeden 2 years ago
actually all the shay photos in this vildeo are made only by lima. Some shays were made by pacific coast but all the pictures in this are lima.
ripjump12 2 years ago
correct. Yea the ones in this vid are all Lima but i was just seeing if anybody would pick up that there was actually another company that made them...haha NYC had shays!!
nicholasbreeden 2 years ago
yeah try baldwin and ALCO , and Brooks works.
Len.
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Conrail6370 2 years ago
Williamette made some shays and other engines, so there were at least two companies making shays. Lima was the most well known at the time.
SierraRailway 2 years ago
Lima was the only builder to build "shays". There was a company in Oregon named Willamette that built a similar locomotive with many improvements over the original shay design. That is why Lima came up with the "Pacific Coast Shay" models, so LIMA could compete better against WIllamette. Willamette is named after the river in Oregon and it rhymes with the curse word "dammit". I don't remember seeing a Shay patent plate on the cab of any Willamettes.
teabowimaging 2 years ago
but the thing is, LIMA did not make pacific coast shays, it was a different company says every source I have checked.
nicholasbreeden 2 years ago
Nicholas Breeden
Check the book "LIMA, The History" by Eric Hirsimaki, published by Hundman. Chapter 10 "Walking with Confidence" page 146-148 discusses the "The Pacific Coast Shay" models and why LIMA choose to build them. Basically LIMA came up with the Pacific Coast Shay to better compete with Heisler, Climax, And Willamette Iron & Steel Works of Portland, Oregon. Nicholas you are wrong, now apologize to ripjump12 and traindude666 , and lets move on!
teabowimaging 2 years ago
now what was the shay that was alot smaller than the shay. it was by gilplin russel if im right.
ripjump12 2 years ago
Lima built a small 2-foot gauge Shay for the Gilpin Tram in Colorado. I don't have the data in front of me right now.
You could look it up yourself in "LIMA,The History" by Hirsimaki, or "Titan of Timber" by Koch. I don't know how close you live to Lima,Ohio. The Lima Public Library has both books in their collection.
teabowimaging 2 years ago
Whould have been cool just to see the Shay erecting shops and from from what I was told is that they took them to a quary that was close by and had a test track and they used that to test out the Shay's
foxrivermotorman 2 years ago
I whent out there and there was all gawn exept for the office building. Would have been nice if they could have saved it but was probably to expensive to keep up
foxrivermotorman 2 years ago
Actauly all thats left is the xray house. It is still used by the Lima Tank plant.
Kleman09 2 years ago
Lima's excuse was that the site was ruining business and was in disrepair. I doubt that excuse cuase of its mostly steel construction.
Kleman09 2 years ago
Just think of the impact this company had on our country. One can argue this company helped get us out of the (1st) Depression, + they built the 4449 and the 759 + a bunch of other extremly successful designs.
DanielVolker 2 years ago
the praire dog central #3 wasn't built by lima, it was built in scotland.
imagreatbigman 2 years ago
oh sorry for the messup STUPID GOOGLE SEARCH ENGINE
ripjump12 2 years ago
Nice Tribute!
dreambuilders48808 2 years ago