and not get fatigued and shoot all day?? BS There is nothing out there that will allow you to shoot video without getting fatigued and your prices are NUTS!
pause to 2:42, you can see how uncomfortable it is to shoot. he has to raise his shoulder and bend his neck to look into the eyepiece. stupid product and stupid price.
I got a $150 shouder mount on ebay from China that included the mount, matte box, and follow focus. It works perfectly fine. This stuff is overated and exremely overpriced.
it is very hard to get an audience on youtube especially for new channels.
although everyone is writing 'check out my channel', i think you should do that (i do that aswell) because the videos might be really good although no one is watching them.
so: check out my channel about photography and comedy!
first piece of plastic is $400? here, are you fucking serious? got my dslr shoulder rig off amazing for £40 and it looks like it would hold up longer than that crap.
For stabilizing you can use motion tracking software which you can download for free from piratebay :) so i wouldn't spend 400 bucks for some bu*****t. no offence
only students and wannabies shoot on dslrs. these rigs will make a dslr much better for filming. but why not just invest the same money in a proper telecamera. this is a sales pitch.. the guy is making them. he implies the last rig is for the more serious shooter, something you an use allday. but really its just a much better rig. the other rigs are rubbish. just by a steady cam and be done with it.
Ummm....I think many of y'all are missing the point. These aren't products intended for the typical consumer - they're intended for folks who do this for a living. A videographer who shows up at a shoot with a cobbled-together homebrewed stabilization rig isn't going to get many callbacks. What Red Rock is asking for their products is trivial compared to similar rigs. And even more trivial to a pro shooting for TV, commercials, film, etc.
@chuckschilling in fairness to the multitude of videographers who do use homebrew kit, if you know what your doing, and you produce the quality that the client is looking for then who's gonna care how much you spent on the kit? I was on a TV set a while ago and the producer told me that the lighting guy is well known for his homebrew contraptions, a lot of people do it and a lot of them do it well I don't see why you look down on that.
@chuckschilling also it is implied in the vid that the first 2 rigs are intended for amateurs and hobbyists, while the last most expensive one is for 'semi-professionals', so I don't think that many people missed the point.
That stuff is way overpriced. Besides, I got the 7D for it's portability. Adding 30lbs of "accessories" defeats the purpose. I'd rather just rent an HDX900 if I'm going to end up carrying all that weight.
The production company I work for had a distributor in China make rigs for our 5Ds for under $100.
such bullshit, you don't need those rigs. one of the benefits of dslr is the size, putting that crap on you might as well buy regular video cameras, you are feating the benefit. we' ve never needed them in 2.5 years of video production.
For video, buy a broadcast HD camera or wait for the Canon C300. The 5DMKII only looks good when it's in the hands of a very professional DP and even then it's a mystery how people can make this camera look good. You can use Cinestyle, Magic Bullet, Zeiss lenses, and to my eye, it still doesn't look as good as a broadcast video camera. It's full of noise, weird jello effects, and is soft in picture.
LOL, that Eye Spy rig was $1,440. There are countless tutorials on Youtube that will show you how to make one of those out of pvc piping for $30 or less!
@seanyyg Yes and it´s not worth the money at all. seriously .. the materials arent that expensive (almost everything out of plastic) and even the "Engineering" behind it could be done from an five year old.
@seanyyg Media Outlets have to stay with the MSRP that way they can't be criticized for false advertising. In reality online you can probably buy products much cheaper.
@seanyyg No honestly these things are relatively cheap if you understand just how expensive actual film cameras are to use or standard ENG video cameras
So the point of this video is saying buy a DSLR because they're small, cheap and good, then put $6,000 in accessories on it so it becomes as big and expensive at a regular camcorder.
Yeah I'd spend my time and not my money on building one of these catered to my own specifications (height, weight, length, ect.) even if I could afford it I would rather spend my dough on a new lens
I would like to rummage through the quality reports of Red Rock Micro for one week and show all the doubters how many good parts that have been scrapped in order to achieve the ultimate in accuracy. Also why would major production companies go to RRM if they could give the contract to mike the mechanic?
no camera should change the way a videograper handles a camera. Though images from the mk2 a re good (to a point) they require expensive support and fidgety handling, plus there are far too many restrictions ergonomically and functionally.. auto focus, aliasing etc.. this is why Panasonic (others are following) have the AF101 using the micro 4/3 sensor (very close to 35mm) and you can use your SLR lens's of course. I knew from the start SLR videography would be a flash in the pan!
Still, a used DSLR that shoot 24p HD can be had for $400. Used primes can be had for a tenth of that. If you're a serious neophyte enthusiast and want to make awesome motion pictures on a very tight budget, it's a very viable option.
I am looking to purchase a DSLR to make music videos and short films along with professional photographs which is recommended the T3i or the Canon 5d mk2????? or should i wait for the canon 5d mk 3??? i want to go into business
people complain and whining about the price of the rig as if the seller is forcing them to buy it or even obligated to buy it if you guys can make your own then do it no one is forcing u to buy it. You are like 5 yr old kids who cudnt buy their toys
Yeah Redrock's stuff is expensive, but it is really damn solid and I know I can trust it to hold up a camera and lens that are even more expensive. What did piss me off was having to spend $44/gear for 3 gears for the follow focus! You would think that after spending $2400 on a rig and riser that they could just throw in the damn focus rings. Either way, if you got the money their stuff is worth it. Although these new Edelkrone rigs look pretty awesome, I think im gonna get their handles.
I'm not saying they're cheap, but don't be such a demagogue, saying the stuff is 200 in the bike store - how about developement, manufacturing, marketing, and other stuff? Your shoes are made for 2$ in the factory but you still buy it for 60$.
"Simple and in expensive" $640 what a rip off!! If it was a resonable price would look at buying one, I agree with CameraPPL, with a little hard work you could make this stuff for next to nothing
what i found funny was that for some reason when during the transition from "the event" to "eye spy", i felt like i was watching Inception. "You musn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling" lmao
I hate RRM so much. There is no reason, NONE (are you listening Brian Valente?) for gouging people with such EXORBITANT prices. Then, they nickel and dime you to death by not including items with their bundles that they should. I pray someone comes along offering the same level products at a REASONABLE price and puts these shitheads out of business.
the hole "lets use this PHOTOcamera as our videocamera" is such a bullshit!!! Canon also makes very good videocameras but now it made this??! WHY??! WHERE IS THE VIDEOCAMERA WITH THE SAME FUNCTIONS???! WHY DO I HAVE TO FILM WITH A PHOTOCAMERA??! all these stupid acsessories - such a bullshit. Obvious that they want to sell all this shit and then brng out a videocamera... Canon - damn you!!!
If you can't pay for real professional camera support gear, then you probably can't pay professional wages to a real professional crew either. I will not make my feature film until I have enough money for all great gear(rentals & buying), and can afford to pay, feed and house a crew well. I'll leave the no-budget b.s. to the others. There will never be an intern on my crew.
@HunterMann You're not understand that my point is equipment does not matter if nobody is going to watch your movie if the story is mediocre. So I give up, because you will obviously never listen.
@ZacharyTayl - That I believe is quite the problem these days. A lot of people think that as soon as they have high-grade equipment, it will make everything in frame look good. Which is not the case as content comes first, then cinematics. Perhaps photography is more for you if you think otherwise. Could it be that there's are more people who want to make films then there are who want to watch them. Because a lot of semi-pro work just ends up on Vimeo as a 'portfolio.'
@multibigpop I don't gotta show the multibigpops of this world my reel(or my badge)! Perhaps what he means by only showing his reel to clients is that he works professionally, film is what he does for a living. He shows his demo reel to clients and to potential clients. You are clearly neither. No equipment is over-priced if it serves you well and gives you a million dollar look. Sure, I can climb a $60 ladder and get a cool shot, but I prefer a professional boom, which is $800/day to rent.
@HunterMann I'm looking at all your comments and replies, you are way to invested on the gear you have. People don't care if your video is basic quality as long as the story is great. Dogme 95.
@ZacharyTayl Yes, that's the problem, most people have been dumbed down, so they do not see the quality difference. I think if you'd take the time to attend a film festival(and I mean to actually watch 5 or 6 films a day, not just the usual schmoose fest & parties, but really go there to immerse yourself in film viewing), you will see that the best movies are film not video. I wish some of of the fests would admit that they are a "film & video" festival. A projected DVD is not cinematic.
@ZacharyTayl While I was impressed with Dogme 95, it is far too limiting. I learned a lot fro watching Dogme 95 films and reading about them, watching live panel discussion about them at film fests, and the post-screening Q&A's were fascinating, but that method is not for me. Cinema verte? Sure! Video verte? LOL.
@Huntermann, I would buy the andormada for 40 dollars so I could pay my crew more....you make no sense there. As @CameraPPL said: Why pay thousands of dollars for a few pieces of metal and and soft grips that you can make yourself? Also buying thousands of dollars worth of Shoulder rig gear isn't going to make one's story any better. Story first, then once you get higher then maybe you can start to work with this. For the average filmmaker this price is just ludicrous.
@ZacharyTayl Gee, why would you pay $45 for a professional sandbag(grip dept) when you can fill a cotton pillow case with free beach sand? Because one is professional and the other is lame.
People who think cheap will always be that way. If they can make a movie on a cheap budget that makes big money, what incentive do they have to shoot with a higher budget on the next movie? They don't. I produced an action picture for $125K. The exec. prod said "Good, now do the next one for $100K." Ouch!
@ZacharyTayl I think some people are comparing apples to oranges. A $40 gadget from Amazon, eBay, CraigsList, etc. is not going to be exactly the same as a professionally machined, balanced, well-thought out rig from RedRock or other companies. Saying "suck it" to RedRock is really naive. Do you also say that to Stedicam, BarberBoom, Chapman, Burns&Sawyer and other companies that make amazing pro gear for camera & grip support? People who buy cheap gear usually underpay their crew, too. Boo!
@bulletcatcher221981 Are you opposed to investing in great professional gear? Sure, the early versions that RedRock made probably cost them $35 at hardware & bike shop(or free from dumpsters) but they probably put $50,000 into developing, testing, redesign, etc. to arrive at that $400 rig. Do you take vitamin? That $1.37 multivitamin probably cost only 4 cents to make, but it cost them a lot to develop it. Same goes for most prescription drugs. Things cost $ to develop, get used to it!
The day the video industry stops raping the consumer, and invents a camera with an interchangeable Image Sensor, is the day I might consider paying for this crap. Until then, I'm sticking with celluloid, fuck video.
@CoolTommyProductions I think that cameras & support gear(like these rigs) always seem to cost more when they first hit the market. If the RedRock gear gets great results, then I don't think it is "crap". I have not made the switch to digital video yet, still working only on films(35mm, 16mm, and on occassion Super 8mm & 70mm). While I can understand the lower costs & lighter weight of video gear, it is NOT as good as film, and I do not consider video to be real cinematography. Stay reel!
For all of the "film is the only way" crowd of people. Red one has an impressive list of movie credentials. Does it not compare to film? Can't beat 5k imo. On a side note, go check your mail and cash your social security check. Its time that you retire and let the young bucks take over. We choose to use a round wheel and not a square one. You can sit in your community circle with all of the other retirees and talk about the days you fed a tape into a camera LOL.
@Macbookpro1481 Totally agree. People need to realize that not only can digital be just as good as film, it can even surpass it with the artistic freedom for which it allows. "The Social Network," "Che," "District 9," "Slumdog Millionaire," "28 Days Later," "Blue Valentine," all shot on digital (Red One). Film loyalists need to get over themselves.
@MrEdLoop You have a typo: Digital is almost as good as film, but it isn't as good as film, period. The digital projects you listed were not "shot" on digital, they were video taped/recorded on digital format. Please don;t use film terms with digital video. Oh, and videography is NOT cinematography.
@HunterMann I'm curious; what exactly did you think I meant when I said "shot"? And how exactly is that different than "taped/recorded"?
Also, "shot" could in no way possibly correspond only to film, as it means exactly what I meant.
And finally, you misunderstood me- when I said digital can surpass film, I meant (if you had read) because of the artistic freedom it allows, not because it is superior. The only difference between videography and cinematography is the medium. Don't be a snob.
@Macbookpro1481 Film isn't the ONLY way, just the best way. I worked on a big budget car commercial last week. We shot with Panavision 35mm cameras. Amazing footage! Why did they decide to shoot with film instead of much cheaper alternatives for capturing images?They shoot film because they can. On that shoot there were at least 12 hours of filming from a helicopter. The helicopter with pro pilot costs $600/hour, whether it's film or video.
People do not like change. These pompus jerks sound just like the so called "pros" at final cut X forums on creative cow. They cannot stand technology is changing and pushing forward. They still want to pull data from BETA MAX tapes /sarcasm off. They do not like the idea that filmmakers can do film just as good or better than traditional filming methods with HDSLR. Shane Hurlbut does a fantastic job with HDSLR. Vincent Laforet does as well. Let me guess, are they amatuer as well?
@Macbookpro1481 Say all you want, but digital video will never be as good as real/reel film. People like you probably hate Leica still film cameras as well. Get back to us when you are ready to invest some serious money into your motion picture making and some integrity too.
I have no respect for this company, there selling rods and grips for thousands of dollars, its pathetic really. Im a machinist and photographer, not to much into video, but nonetheless I understand the need for stability with DSLR video. The thing that pisses me off is that all three of these rigs combined would cost you roughly $2,500, when I could go to my local hardware store and bike shop with $200, and buy aluminum rods, and bike grips, then machine the rest of the parts I need to make all3
@CameraPPL So start making and selling your own at a lower price. No reason to hate on the company. They're not 'tricking' anyone into buying something overpriced. They're selling to a market of consumers who are too lazy or not skilled enough to build their own rig and have the money to spend.
@CameraPPL I think that you are paying for the design technology and the years of work that went into developing these rigs. Sure, you can copy them and build a cheapo version with bike tubing, etc. but I don't think you'll get the same results. Maybe I'm a snob since I've worked on big film projects for 30 years? Yes, I know I can go no-budget and shoot from a wheel chair without dolly tracks, but if I have a decent budget I will use a professional dolly & track. How good a look do you want?
@HunterMann Cool story bro, but I'm not really into video production so I don't really know why I even posted that comment.
Besides, if your the professional you say you are then you should know that you don't always need to shell out a lot of cash to achieve a high production value simple is usually better.
Brand names and colored rigs don't make a video great, the photographer does!
BTW, quit ranting and upload something, cause right now your acting like a dick, with nothing to back it up.
@HunterMann Oh yeah, one more thing, when you make and argument, try to support both sides, it will make your point seem more valid. Just something you should have learned in grade school playing with other children; I'm guessing you were the quiet one in the corner?
And last but not least, YouTube is here for fun, and enjoyment, not aggressive ranting, if you want to do that, go find a forum to clog up, and stop wasting all of our time.
@magicandr Just look up how to make a camera rig online, there should be some detailed information that can help you make a pretty nice one. Just look at it as a fun little project.
@CameraPPL its all to make money too, im sure there trying to cater to alot of indie filmmakers,what they dont realize is people who make independant films dont have 1000$ cash to spend on some metal rods.
@CameraPPL ahaha i completely agree with you. to be honest if you were even poorer you could whip up a rig with wood, drills, screws, and padding. although metal would probably be the better bet. I dont understand how they can justify the price of their equipment when they are just made of extruded metal and oem fasteners. what an amazing ripoff
@CameraPPL if you were to make a whole set stability set up even if it only cost you 300 to make your not going to turn around and sell it for that much, you would factor in your labor cost and it would be closer to a 1000$..its supply and demand most people dont have the knowledge to be able to make it there self. so they have to rely on these companies to make there shooting better.
Actually, my estimate of 200 for all the parts was grossly more than what I would actually spend. At the time I posted said comment, I just kinda tossed in a random number.
In reality, I would likely spend around 25 to 50 bucks on parts, and If I planned on going into full on production I would put it at a price point of $80 to $100. The thing is, once you get the process down, mass production becomes simple!
Infact,... I do need a job.... hmmm.... I think ill make a prototype.
@CameraPPL No shit dude! It's no wonder the economy is shit because the prices of this crap goes up and people aren't getting richer! And no company wants to crack and give people a break and let people afford the stuff!
Not everyone is a machinist nor do they have the time and resources to machine parts. A mill costs a lot of money, especially when you go cnc which I am sure you're aware of. So for the average joe-indi-film maker, they want a little help. That is where companies like this come in. I don't have to worry about it however. From the money I make working for my dad at his Machine Shop, I can buy the best of the best before I own his company :)
@daytopotato Sometimes you get what you pay for,... sometimes you just paid to much. In this case, you don't need to be a machinist to recreate the effect of one of these rigs, hell, my friend made something similar for his T2i with some PVC pipe and a tripod mount.
I just happen to have access a machine shop, so in my case i would do it as stated.
BTW, Im only still training (second semester) and I could recreate one of these to a T if I had the time and motivation. But damn, its only a video.
"inexpensive" yes, it looks like it cost 5 dollars to make and you're selling it for a set over 1k da fawk
hirichardhai 5 days ago
edelkrone looks a lot better
HenTodolo 6 days ago
I'll do the same shots without this craps -.-
FeniXcK 1 week ago
1:15 -_- wtf..... are you serious. Theres literally less then 10 dollars of material in that thing.
koldstudios 1 week ago
insane pricing.
jhallthird 1 week ago
At least learn how to adjust white balance before creating a product :P
koulaid 1 week ago
Infomercial.
dougd1015 1 week ago
and not get fatigued and shoot all day?? BS There is nothing out there that will allow you to shoot video without getting fatigued and your prices are NUTS!
ASW8055 1 week ago
pause to 2:42, you can see how uncomfortable it is to shoot. he has to raise his shoulder and bend his neck to look into the eyepiece. stupid product and stupid price.
marlix77 1 week ago
i bought a larger rig with shoulder support for $60
myrdalism 1 week ago
@myrdalism Hi there, what rig did you manage to buy for 60 bucks? Ha! i guess everyone was kinda P-----d at the price of those red rock accessories.
vinvin121 1 week ago
OR you could just hold it
Ollybru96 2 weeks ago 5
come on now. with over 1k i can get a real serious HD professional Sony Camcorder man. I wana see whos actually stupid to go and oder one of these.
PhuNguyen88 2 weeks ago
canon makes all this stuff too. its called Image Stabilization. and the best part is it comes built in with your lens! :)
timberswiss3 2 weeks ago
farts. id rather hear farts than this guy.
derekpeters04 2 weeks ago
Go to Amazon and write: DSLR rigs and you'll find great ones at a great price.
videotitan1 2 weeks ago
The price of this rig should be 79.99 Dlls not a penny more.
videotitan1 2 weeks ago
I got a $150 shouder mount on ebay from China that included the mount, matte box, and follow focus. It works perfectly fine. This stuff is overated and exremely overpriced.
halobrlover 2 weeks ago
it is very hard to get an audience on youtube especially for new channels.
although everyone is writing 'check out my channel', i think you should do that (i do that aswell) because the videos might be really good although no one is watching them.
so: check out my channel about photography and comedy!
If you think so too: thumbs up! Thank you!
mokphoto 2 weeks ago
first piece of plastic is $400? here, are you fucking serious? got my dslr shoulder rig off amazing for £40 and it looks like it would hold up longer than that crap.
paulSAYERable 2 weeks ago
that first one should be like $50 max...
ColtSegura 2 weeks ago
ya im a welder so i will fricken well just make a rig
TheParodyPirate 3 weeks ago
What a ripoff. You can get a semi pro body, or 2-3 quality primes for the price of that top of the line model. DIY is the way to go.
MclrnMn1 3 weeks ago
For stabilizing you can use motion tracking software which you can download for free from piratebay :) so i wouldn't spend 400 bucks for some bu*****t. no offence
ussike22 3 weeks ago
@ussike22 Yeah! Or you can just build a diy steady cam / fig rig for likr $15 xD
AnBCinemas 3 weeks ago
@ussike22 i agree, the stuffs a ripoff but nothing compares to the shots you get when using one.
TeDubbs 2 weeks ago
only students and wannabies shoot on dslrs. these rigs will make a dslr much better for filming. but why not just invest the same money in a proper telecamera. this is a sales pitch.. the guy is making them. he implies the last rig is for the more serious shooter, something you an use allday. but really its just a much better rig. the other rigs are rubbish. just by a steady cam and be done with it.
MedManTheBrave 3 weeks ago
OR you can get a glide cam for 40o and your good
lplkid 3 weeks ago
these prices are wayyyy off,on redrocks site, "the event" is $800 without a follow focus. liars.
koncretekahunask8 3 weeks ago
The first thing he shows, for 400 bucks, i build that for 10 ;)
Zehle325 4 weeks ago 2
Ummm....I think many of y'all are missing the point. These aren't products intended for the typical consumer - they're intended for folks who do this for a living. A videographer who shows up at a shoot with a cobbled-together homebrewed stabilization rig isn't going to get many callbacks. What Red Rock is asking for their products is trivial compared to similar rigs. And even more trivial to a pro shooting for TV, commercials, film, etc.
chuckschilling 4 weeks ago
@chuckschilling in fairness to the multitude of videographers who do use homebrew kit, if you know what your doing, and you produce the quality that the client is looking for then who's gonna care how much you spent on the kit? I was on a TV set a while ago and the producer told me that the lighting guy is well known for his homebrew contraptions, a lot of people do it and a lot of them do it well I don't see why you look down on that.
MASSIF101 4 weeks ago
@chuckschilling also it is implied in the vid that the first 2 rigs are intended for amateurs and hobbyists, while the last most expensive one is for 'semi-professionals', so I don't think that many people missed the point.
MASSIF101 4 weeks ago
or.... you can buy some pvc and cook up some badass DIY equipment for a fraction of the price with the same quality :P
greekbl00d 1 month ago 2
How is that better than i trip to the harware store with only 100$
Exlr8Films 1 month ago
Why the fuck is it $400?
e4g1e1 1 month ago
400 for a couple of metal bars? No thanks
ThePrivateJoker 1 month ago
comfortable my ass
dritonrexhepi50 1 month ago
the quality looks the same as my ipod 4gen
MagerHaXZingMusic 1 month ago
You can builtd that rig with freaking pvc pipes.
DarthVulku 1 month ago
That stuff is way overpriced. Besides, I got the 7D for it's portability. Adding 30lbs of "accessories" defeats the purpose. I'd rather just rent an HDX900 if I'm going to end up carrying all that weight.
The production company I work for had a distributor in China make rigs for our 5Ds for under $100.
00Mandingo00 1 month ago
such bullshit, you don't need those rigs. one of the benefits of dslr is the size, putting that crap on you might as well buy regular video cameras, you are feating the benefit. we' ve never needed them in 2.5 years of video production.
NBWebMan 1 month ago
For video, buy a broadcast HD camera or wait for the Canon C300. The 5DMKII only looks good when it's in the hands of a very professional DP and even then it's a mystery how people can make this camera look good. You can use Cinestyle, Magic Bullet, Zeiss lenses, and to my eye, it still doesn't look as good as a broadcast video camera. It's full of noise, weird jello effects, and is soft in picture.
AmeriProud67 1 month ago
LOL, that Eye Spy rig was $1,440. There are countless tutorials on Youtube that will show you how to make one of those out of pvc piping for $30 or less!
zZsmithXx 1 month ago
HOW DID HE CHANGE THE RIGS?!
BURN THE WITCH!!!
MenwithTennisBalls 1 month ago
their footage wasn't even steady. I wouldn't waste my money on this.
rileypatrickdeacon 1 month ago 4
@rileypatrickdeacon Ah Shutup!
ShawnTheKiller1 1 month ago
Did he say inexpensive? My ass. You are paying WAY too much for rods and screws.
CAMer0nxx 1 month ago
$400 a rod of metal 2 grips and a few screw
DCMskate 1 month ago
ZU TEUER .... VIEL ZU TEUER
HBremenFILM 1 month ago
pieces of scrap metal put together costs thsi much? GO FOR A DIY KITS GUYS.
KRE8TVT 1 month ago
lol... indd too much cash for handy trash! XD
4rtic3 1 month ago
$400 for the piece of shit plastic?
oldVideoGamesChannel 1 month ago 2
I made the last rig at home out of PVC pipe and grips for $50....all this stuff is so over priced make it yourself and save hundreds of dollars
FreeRunningCentral 1 month ago
Homemade
to88he 1 month ago
well, i got my 5d for pictures :) but yeah.. mhm
Piggeliggel 1 month ago
Went here for tips and I got a commercial for overpriced gear. Thanks, USA Today.
rikomenzies 1 month ago 4
what a way to rip off Digital Rev
LoveZeJames 1 month ago 2
funny thing is that most of these shots are still shaky as hell!!!
Apatheh 1 month ago
Thanks. it was really informative
Sameir8055 2 months ago
when he pick up the "Eye Spy" i started to laugh....It seems a Duke Nukem weapon
melantoriano 2 months ago
FABUOSOOOOOOO!!!!
PABLOCASEN1 2 months ago
Come on, $640 for a glorified tripod? Pass.
trimkabashi 2 months ago 14
You have to be really rich to buy all those stuff
bitsever 2 months ago
Honestly, these are ALL over priced.
seanyyg 2 months ago 169
@seanyyg I used to think so too until i saw how they are made. it's ridiculous!
IRONMAN2570 1 month ago
@seanyyg seriously, you can see stuff that's near identical to "the event" (minus the hood and the follow focus) for about $250
a follow focus and DSLR LCD viewfinder does not cost $400, so there is no excuse for these prices.
hobocamptheater 1 month ago
@seanyyg They are not actually OVER priced, they are just expensive because it is expensive for the company to make them.
TheCoalescent 1 month ago
@seanyyg So true. They are such simple designs which could be made easily and cheaply but they are WAY over priced
kapow151 1 month ago
@seanyyg Yes and it´s not worth the money at all. seriously .. the materials arent that expensive (almost everything out of plastic) and even the "Engineering" behind it could be done from an five year old.
DerSchaddan 1 month ago
@seanyyg It's called profit. Nothing wrong with making a profit.
AlfredNorrisIII 2 weeks ago
@seanyyg The blonde takes years to assemble, bro!
Warewolf943 2 weeks ago
@seanyyg Media Outlets have to stay with the MSRP that way they can't be criticized for false advertising. In reality online you can probably buy products much cheaper.
Neojhun 6 days ago
@seanyyg No honestly these things are relatively cheap if you understand just how expensive actual film cameras are to use or standard ENG video cameras
HermidaTech 3 days ago
@seanyyg exactly! and they probs take maybe $100 to make
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Antietep 2 months ago
garage band beat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DickLord86 2 months ago
No, sorry Canon's produce great videos - Nikons videos are NAFF
mikeismad61 2 months ago
$600+ dollars for some tubes and rubber i can get at home depot?
GrayWolfPictures 2 months ago 29
@GrayWolfPictures i was just thinking that my self, what a fuckin' money hungry douche bag!
brandon052695 2 weeks ago
So you holding it with two hands Then to focus you take one hand of ,,OPS bad Idea build the focus into a hand grip easy....
devonmale69 2 months ago
Just ordered the whole rig from China for $300. Fuck you America
bnnkhardcore 2 months ago
@bnnkhardcore tell me where? X
billystrodder 2 months ago
@bnnkhardcore Fuck you for supporting them,
ToasterStuder 2 months ago
glidecam HD 2000 bro
TheJonnyEnglish 2 months ago
Dear Santa...
TEVOanimations 2 months ago
So the point of this video is saying buy a DSLR because they're small, cheap and good, then put $6,000 in accessories on it so it becomes as big and expensive at a regular camcorder.
MattMillerDIR 3 months ago 6
@FileShare111 aluminum* not PVC and also it is alot for that rig! :)
sk8r151zz 3 months ago
if this were a 10 min video, dude would have had enough pieces to put together a moving cart lol
RUDOLPHLYRICS 3 months ago
now it cost around 300 +- $ on ebay
zousanai 3 months ago
Pffst. "Stabalize" is their mantra... Look, keeping a camera lens still a disciplined skill. This gear can't help you if you're no good at that fact.
That said, making basic shoulder rigs can be accomplished with an afternoons worth of time and 20 bucks. DIY if you're on a budget.
fuzzynormal 3 months ago
Yeah I'd spend my time and not my money on building one of these catered to my own specifications (height, weight, length, ect.) even if I could afford it I would rather spend my dough on a new lens
CoolTommyProductions 4 months ago 52
@CoolTommyProductions go for it,then post it here, id like to see how you do it
bassnrifle 2 months ago
I would like to rummage through the quality reports of Red Rock Micro for one week and show all the doubters how many good parts that have been scrapped in order to achieve the ultimate in accuracy. Also why would major production companies go to RRM if they could give the contract to mike the mechanic?
tscholent 5 months ago
give me some pvc pipes a saw and a few bolts and I'll be good to go...
carsontom1914 5 months ago 2
no camera should change the way a videograper handles a camera. Though images from the mk2 a re good (to a point) they require expensive support and fidgety handling, plus there are far too many restrictions ergonomically and functionally.. auto focus, aliasing etc.. this is why Panasonic (others are following) have the AF101 using the micro 4/3 sensor (very close to 35mm) and you can use your SLR lens's of course. I knew from the start SLR videography would be a flash in the pan!
FCPWHAT 5 months ago
@FCPWHAT
Still, a used DSLR that shoot 24p HD can be had for $400. Used primes can be had for a tenth of that. If you're a serious neophyte enthusiast and want to make awesome motion pictures on a very tight budget, it's a very viable option.
fuzzynormal 3 months ago
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I am looking to purchase a DSLR to make music videos and short films along with professional photographs which is recommended the T3i or the Canon 5d mk2????? or should i wait for the canon 5d mk 3??? i want to go into business
OfficialCypherSon 5 months ago
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OfficialCypherSon 5 months ago
accesories are damn expensive...
KevinBoscoJnr 5 months ago
people complain and whining about the price of the rig as if the seller is forcing them to buy it or even obligated to buy it if you guys can make your own then do it no one is forcing u to buy it. You are like 5 yr old kids who cudnt buy their toys
esponert105 5 months ago
@esponert105 thank you for making an excellent point...
tscholent 5 months ago
Great video keep up the good work.
NewAgeDirector 5 months ago
COOL
FOXT18 6 months ago
Um the test shots were pretty unstable. Good examples.
kimsterjizznugget 6 months ago
Why not post a video explaining how to machine these pieces?????
techniquetwelveph 6 months ago
Yeah Redrock's stuff is expensive, but it is really damn solid and I know I can trust it to hold up a camera and lens that are even more expensive. What did piss me off was having to spend $44/gear for 3 gears for the follow focus! You would think that after spending $2400 on a rig and riser that they could just throw in the damn focus rings. Either way, if you got the money their stuff is worth it. Although these new Edelkrone rigs look pretty awesome, I think im gonna get their handles.
rsmith1240 6 months ago
I'm not saying they're cheap, but don't be such a demagogue, saying the stuff is 200 in the bike store - how about developement, manufacturing, marketing, and other stuff? Your shoes are made for 2$ in the factory but you still buy it for 60$.
ravenseldon 6 months ago
that last thing was absolutely ridiculous..
bboymeean 6 months ago
"Simple and in expensive" $640 what a rip off!! If it was a resonable price would look at buying one, I agree with CameraPPL, with a little hard work you could make this stuff for next to nothing
cambike 6 months ago in playlist 7D
u know what?? I'm really going to buy this!!! Cus i got 2000 dollars to throw out the window..
itsJFusion 6 months ago
This thing it's so overpriced it's 'RIDICULOUS'
Cuajinice 6 months ago
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enjarcher 7 months ago
Everyone that's feeling pissed off about RRM - check out Jag35 (jag35.com). They offer great rigs at WAY cheaper prices.
enjarcher 7 months ago
DID HE SAY 400 DOLLARS?!!!!
vincentjanse 7 months ago
Im sorry, Im gonna feel like a total dick later, but I cant help but saying, ... when this guy talks, it makes me want to punch something.
There I got it out of my system, I can go back to my life now. :P
CameraPPL 7 months ago
what i found funny was that for some reason when during the transition from "the event" to "eye spy", i felt like i was watching Inception. "You musn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling" lmao
Eniyi04 7 months ago 9
I hate RRM so much. There is no reason, NONE (are you listening Brian Valente?) for gouging people with such EXORBITANT prices. Then, they nickel and dime you to death by not including items with their bundles that they should. I pray someone comes along offering the same level products at a REASONABLE price and puts these shitheads out of business.
modfin 7 months ago
accesories cost more than the damn camera
welovemshustle 7 months ago
the hole "lets use this PHOTOcamera as our videocamera" is such a bullshit!!! Canon also makes very good videocameras but now it made this??! WHY??! WHERE IS THE VIDEOCAMERA WITH THE SAME FUNCTIONS???! WHY DO I HAVE TO FILM WITH A PHOTOCAMERA??! all these stupid acsessories - such a bullshit. Obvious that they want to sell all this shit and then brng out a videocamera... Canon - damn you!!!
ValmisFilm 7 months ago
yeah cheap for rich people
geignaskgfasnjkvgjkl 7 months ago
chappy showcase has a really good tutorial for a $30 steadicam and it works pretty well with lighter cameras, especially dslrs i would bet.
sodapopman5000 7 months ago
nice and blue wow all these guys are ridding the ripoff wave to damm costly
kubustrings 7 months ago
If you can't pay for real professional camera support gear, then you probably can't pay professional wages to a real professional crew either. I will not make my feature film until I have enough money for all great gear(rentals & buying), and can afford to pay, feed and house a crew well. I'll leave the no-budget b.s. to the others. There will never be an intern on my crew.
HunterMann 7 months ago
@HunterMann You're not understand that my point is equipment does not matter if nobody is going to watch your movie if the story is mediocre. So I give up, because you will obviously never listen.
ZacharyTayl 7 months ago
@ZacharyTayl - That I believe is quite the problem these days. A lot of people think that as soon as they have high-grade equipment, it will make everything in frame look good. Which is not the case as content comes first, then cinematics. Perhaps photography is more for you if you think otherwise. Could it be that there's are more people who want to make films then there are who want to watch them. Because a lot of semi-pro work just ends up on Vimeo as a 'portfolio.'
Chiszle 7 months ago
@multibigpop I don't gotta show the multibigpops of this world my reel(or my badge)! Perhaps what he means by only showing his reel to clients is that he works professionally, film is what he does for a living. He shows his demo reel to clients and to potential clients. You are clearly neither. No equipment is over-priced if it serves you well and gives you a million dollar look. Sure, I can climb a $60 ladder and get a cool shot, but I prefer a professional boom, which is $800/day to rent.
HunterMann 7 months ago
@HunterMann I'm looking at all your comments and replies, you are way to invested on the gear you have. People don't care if your video is basic quality as long as the story is great. Dogme 95.
ZacharyTayl 7 months ago
@ZacharyTayl Yes, that's the problem, most people have been dumbed down, so they do not see the quality difference. I think if you'd take the time to attend a film festival(and I mean to actually watch 5 or 6 films a day, not just the usual schmoose fest & parties, but really go there to immerse yourself in film viewing), you will see that the best movies are film not video. I wish some of of the fests would admit that they are a "film & video" festival. A projected DVD is not cinematic.
HunterMann 7 months ago
@ZacharyTayl While I was impressed with Dogme 95, it is far too limiting. I learned a lot fro watching Dogme 95 films and reading about them, watching live panel discussion about them at film fests, and the post-screening Q&A's were fascinating, but that method is not for me. Cinema verte? Sure! Video verte? LOL.
HunterMann 7 months ago
@Huntermann, I would buy the andormada for 40 dollars so I could pay my crew more....you make no sense there. As @CameraPPL said: Why pay thousands of dollars for a few pieces of metal and and soft grips that you can make yourself? Also buying thousands of dollars worth of Shoulder rig gear isn't going to make one's story any better. Story first, then once you get higher then maybe you can start to work with this. For the average filmmaker this price is just ludicrous.
ZacharyTayl 7 months ago
@ZacharyTayl Gee, why would you pay $45 for a professional sandbag(grip dept) when you can fill a cotton pillow case with free beach sand? Because one is professional and the other is lame.
People who think cheap will always be that way. If they can make a movie on a cheap budget that makes big money, what incentive do they have to shoot with a higher budget on the next movie? They don't. I produced an action picture for $125K. The exec. prod said "Good, now do the next one for $100K." Ouch!
HunterMann 7 months ago
adormada shoulder rig 40 bucks amazon. suck it redrock bullshit
ZacharyTayl 7 months ago
@ZacharyTayl I think some people are comparing apples to oranges. A $40 gadget from Amazon, eBay, CraigsList, etc. is not going to be exactly the same as a professionally machined, balanced, well-thought out rig from RedRock or other companies. Saying "suck it" to RedRock is really naive. Do you also say that to Stedicam, BarberBoom, Chapman, Burns&Sawyer and other companies that make amazing pro gear for camera & grip support? People who buy cheap gear usually underpay their crew, too. Boo!
HunterMann 7 months ago
lol this guys junk is way to overpriced....talk about trying to rob people blind 400$ for something i could put together with an erector set?
bulletcatcher221981 7 months ago
@bulletcatcher221981 Are you opposed to investing in great professional gear? Sure, the early versions that RedRock made probably cost them $35 at hardware & bike shop(or free from dumpsters) but they probably put $50,000 into developing, testing, redesign, etc. to arrive at that $400 rig. Do you take vitamin? That $1.37 multivitamin probably cost only 4 cents to make, but it cost them a lot to develop it. Same goes for most prescription drugs. Things cost $ to develop, get used to it!
HunterMann 7 months ago
The day the video industry stops raping the consumer, and invents a camera with an interchangeable Image Sensor, is the day I might consider paying for this crap. Until then, I'm sticking with celluloid, fuck video.
CoolTommyProductions 7 months ago
@CoolTommyProductions I think that cameras & support gear(like these rigs) always seem to cost more when they first hit the market. If the RedRock gear gets great results, then I don't think it is "crap". I have not made the switch to digital video yet, still working only on films(35mm, 16mm, and on occassion Super 8mm & 70mm). While I can understand the lower costs & lighter weight of video gear, it is NOT as good as film, and I do not consider video to be real cinematography. Stay reel!
HunterMann 7 months ago
@MrEdLoop Umm no PI was shot on 16mm B/W reversal film.
Joe3121 8 months ago
For all of the "film is the only way" crowd of people. Red one has an impressive list of movie credentials. Does it not compare to film? Can't beat 5k imo. On a side note, go check your mail and cash your social security check. Its time that you retire and let the young bucks take over. We choose to use a round wheel and not a square one. You can sit in your community circle with all of the other retirees and talk about the days you fed a tape into a camera LOL.
Macbookpro1481 8 months ago
@Macbookpro1481 Totally agree. People need to realize that not only can digital be just as good as film, it can even surpass it with the artistic freedom for which it allows. "The Social Network," "Che," "District 9," "Slumdog Millionaire," "28 Days Later," "Blue Valentine," all shot on digital (Red One). Film loyalists need to get over themselves.
3D, however, is a different matter entirely.
MrEdLoop 8 months ago
@MrEdLoop You have a typo: Digital is almost as good as film, but it isn't as good as film, period. The digital projects you listed were not "shot" on digital, they were video taped/recorded on digital format. Please don;t use film terms with digital video. Oh, and videography is NOT cinematography.
HunterMann 7 months ago
@HunterMann I'm curious; what exactly did you think I meant when I said "shot"? And how exactly is that different than "taped/recorded"?
Also, "shot" could in no way possibly correspond only to film, as it means exactly what I meant.
And finally, you misunderstood me- when I said digital can surpass film, I meant (if you had read) because of the artistic freedom it allows, not because it is superior. The only difference between videography and cinematography is the medium. Don't be a snob.
MrEdLoop 7 months ago
@Macbookpro1481 Film isn't the ONLY way, just the best way. I worked on a big budget car commercial last week. We shot with Panavision 35mm cameras. Amazing footage! Why did they decide to shoot with film instead of much cheaper alternatives for capturing images?They shoot film because they can. On that shoot there were at least 12 hours of filming from a helicopter. The helicopter with pro pilot costs $600/hour, whether it's film or video.
Cheapo video kids... LOL!!!!
HunterMann 7 months ago
People do not like change. These pompus jerks sound just like the so called "pros" at final cut X forums on creative cow. They cannot stand technology is changing and pushing forward. They still want to pull data from BETA MAX tapes /sarcasm off. They do not like the idea that filmmakers can do film just as good or better than traditional filming methods with HDSLR. Shane Hurlbut does a fantastic job with HDSLR. Vincent Laforet does as well. Let me guess, are they amatuer as well?
Macbookpro1481 8 months ago
@Macbookpro1481 Say all you want, but digital video will never be as good as real/reel film. People like you probably hate Leica still film cameras as well. Get back to us when you are ready to invest some serious money into your motion picture making and some integrity too.
HunterMann 7 months ago
@multibigpop Finally, someone else understands.
LTPDfilms 8 months ago
I have no respect for this company, there selling rods and grips for thousands of dollars, its pathetic really. Im a machinist and photographer, not to much into video, but nonetheless I understand the need for stability with DSLR video. The thing that pisses me off is that all three of these rigs combined would cost you roughly $2,500, when I could go to my local hardware store and bike shop with $200, and buy aluminum rods, and bike grips, then machine the rest of the parts I need to make all3
CameraPPL 9 months ago 66
@CameraPPL So start making and selling your own at a lower price. No reason to hate on the company. They're not 'tricking' anyone into buying something overpriced. They're selling to a market of consumers who are too lazy or not skilled enough to build their own rig and have the money to spend.
wizzroom 8 months ago
@CameraPPL I think that you are paying for the design technology and the years of work that went into developing these rigs. Sure, you can copy them and build a cheapo version with bike tubing, etc. but I don't think you'll get the same results. Maybe I'm a snob since I've worked on big film projects for 30 years? Yes, I know I can go no-budget and shoot from a wheel chair without dolly tracks, but if I have a decent budget I will use a professional dolly & track. How good a look do you want?
HunterMann 7 months ago
@HunterMann Cool story bro, but I'm not really into video production so I don't really know why I even posted that comment.
Besides, if your the professional you say you are then you should know that you don't always need to shell out a lot of cash to achieve a high production value simple is usually better.
Brand names and colored rigs don't make a video great, the photographer does!
BTW, quit ranting and upload something, cause right now your acting like a dick, with nothing to back it up.
CameraPPL 7 months ago
@HunterMann Oh yeah, one more thing, when you make and argument, try to support both sides, it will make your point seem more valid. Just something you should have learned in grade school playing with other children; I'm guessing you were the quiet one in the corner?
And last but not least, YouTube is here for fun, and enjoyment, not aggressive ranting, if you want to do that, go find a forum to clog up, and stop wasting all of our time.
CameraPPL 7 months ago
@CameraPPL ok! If you can make it cheaper with the same quality, I'd love to buy!!
I'm not joking. Really.
magicandr 7 months ago
@magicandr Just look up how to make a camera rig online, there should be some detailed information that can help you make a pretty nice one. Just look at it as a fun little project.
CameraPPL 7 months ago
@CameraPPL its all to make money too, im sure there trying to cater to alot of indie filmmakers,what they dont realize is people who make independant films dont have 1000$ cash to spend on some metal rods.
dothisdothat321 7 months ago
@CameraPPL ahaha i completely agree with you. to be honest if you were even poorer you could whip up a rig with wood, drills, screws, and padding. although metal would probably be the better bet. I dont understand how they can justify the price of their equipment when they are just made of extruded metal and oem fasteners. what an amazing ripoff
JAFrk 7 months ago
@CameraPPL if you were to make a whole set stability set up even if it only cost you 300 to make your not going to turn around and sell it for that much, you would factor in your labor cost and it would be closer to a 1000$..its supply and demand most people dont have the knowledge to be able to make it there self. so they have to rely on these companies to make there shooting better.
Themayseffect 7 months ago
@Themayseffect
Actually, my estimate of 200 for all the parts was grossly more than what I would actually spend. At the time I posted said comment, I just kinda tossed in a random number.
In reality, I would likely spend around 25 to 50 bucks on parts, and If I planned on going into full on production I would put it at a price point of $80 to $100. The thing is, once you get the process down, mass production becomes simple!
Infact,... I do need a job.... hmmm.... I think ill make a prototype.
CameraPPL 7 months ago
@CameraPPL I agree 100% with you, totally overpriced
dslrideas 7 months ago
@CameraPPL No shit dude! It's no wonder the economy is shit because the prices of this crap goes up and people aren't getting richer! And no company wants to crack and give people a break and let people afford the stuff!
TonyTwoToes6669 6 months ago
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@CameraPPL .....Why not post a video explaining how to machine these pieces?????
techniquetwelveph 6 months ago
@CameraPPL hhahahhaha agree
ILonelyPlanet 6 months ago
@CameraPPL Then go do it Mr. Journeyman lol.
Not everyone is a machinist nor do they have the time and resources to machine parts. A mill costs a lot of money, especially when you go cnc which I am sure you're aware of. So for the average joe-indi-film maker, they want a little help. That is where companies like this come in. I don't have to worry about it however. From the money I make working for my dad at his Machine Shop, I can buy the best of the best before I own his company :)
daytopotato 6 months ago
@daytopotato Sometimes you get what you pay for,... sometimes you just paid to much. In this case, you don't need to be a machinist to recreate the effect of one of these rigs, hell, my friend made something similar for his T2i with some PVC pipe and a tripod mount.
I just happen to have access a machine shop, so in my case i would do it as stated.
BTW, Im only still training (second semester) and I could recreate one of these to a T if I had the time and motivation. But damn, its only a video.
CameraPPL 6 months ago
@CameraPPL It would be easier to trust you if you could spell...
they're=they are , their= it belongs to them, there= look over there!
filmfelineadmin 5 months ago
@filmfelineadmin Congrats! You picked up on a Youtube comment's grammatical errors. You get a Gold Star!
CameraPPL 5 months ago
@CameraPPL Honestly, I've made exactly same rig by myself...and follow focus too...and it cost 100$....Too expensive to buy that rig...so DIY FTW!!
FinlandApollo 5 months ago
@FinlandApollo Hmm, could you post a video tutorial on how you made it please?
UnDeadKnight1 2 months ago
@UnDeadKnight1 Well, I'm going to build a second rig to my friend so maybe I can make a tutorial.
FinlandApollo 2 months ago