@leearnold You could also add a debt box which shows how much money we owe vs. how much money exist. If there is anything I wish people understood it's that given our banking system it is impossible to pay off all the debt because the money to pay it off literally doesn't exist.
@thebestsumoeva -- Have a look at the videos on the Bush Tax Cuts and Social Security, which picture federal deficits and debt.
But it is possible to pay off debt, even it's more than the amount of money that exists. this is because it is paid off on installment, and the concurrent economic growth creates more value, and so creates more incomes. The only real problem is by incurring new debt, without ever paying off the old.
@leearnold Economic growth does create more wealth but not more physical money. Physical money is only created when someone expands their debt and the bank prints the money to do so. The fact that they ask for interest back on the money that they just printed means in the long run you will pay them more money than they created hence why it is literally impossible to pay off deb as a whole. Someone may be out of debt but it is only because others have debt.
@thebestsumoeva -- That is true: if suddenly, in one moment, all private debts in the world were paid off, there would be one (or some) remaining. This is the same process as in the video: we end up with more paper money than there is gold to back it up. Just substitute credit (which is the ability to incur a debt) for paper money, and you would see the same process.
I thought you were writing about government debt, which seems to be the topic on most people's minds.
@leearnold While I don't like large amounts of debt I am not 100% against the government having debt in our system. If the government expanded it's debt it would make it easier for private citizens to pay off their debt. Now if the government expanded it's debt through tax breaks it's not so bad, but if they expand it through more spending then they are creating a distortion in the market which makes the market less efficient.
@thebestsumoeva -- The choice between tax cuts and gov't spending depends upon two different things: (1) WHERE we are in the business cycle, and (2) HOW LONG it goes: i.e., whether the tax cuts or gov't spending is short-term or long-term. These give different answers.
At current U.S. levels of tax and spend, the efficiency results of mild policy changes are small. And the analysts NEVER balance them against the concomitant changes in economic welfare, to give a NET benefit/cost.
@leearnold In general the government spending money that doesn't exist causes inflation. The deficit is a deficit no matter whether it comes from tax cuts or increased spending. With that said debt in our system has to grow because no matter who takes out the loan they end up owing more money back on the loan than the loan was worth hence we owe more money to banks than physically EXISTS. We have to increase debt in our system to prevent rampant deflation and economic disaster.
@thebestsumoeva -- Yes, the gov't deficit can be from either tax cuts (with no spending cuts) or additional spending (with no tax hikes). But no, the gov't is not spending money that doesn't exist: it borrows it by selling T-bills. And gov't spending only causes inflation when it causes Aggregate Demand to exceed Aggregate Supply (not a problem at the moment, for example). Please study a regular textbook on economics before proceeding any further with this, so we can use the same definitions.
"The bill that ultimately repealed the Act was introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (Republican of Texas) and in the House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa) in 1999. The bills were passed by a Republican majority, basically following party lines by a 54–44 vote in the Senate." WIKI
Because (starting at 0:53) the banker, acting on his own behalf, made a new paper-money loan, based on the gold in the safe that the others never withdrew.
This is the principle of fractional reserve banking.
It is how new money enters the economy now. To control inflation, the central bank controls the rate of new loans made by other banks, to MATCH the growth of money to the growth of real goods and services. There are different ways to do that.
as you said "gold was too heavy" for people to carry around with them so the goldsmith looked after it, and that was the service he provided.
Nowadays, I have no gold to be looked after, so I go to work for "money". Money is NOT HEAVY. I would not struggle to carry my wages with me, so why does my money go straight into the bank without me even seeing it. I don't have a choice about it.
If the bank is making profit on my money, I want to see half the profit. ITS MY MONEY!!!!!!!
@69salford69 -- Most people feel safer having a checking account and using paper checks, (or else using debit or credit cards) rather than risk carrying around large sums of paper cash.
If you want to share in the bank's profit, open a type of account that pays interest, such as a savings account.
I understand carrying paper cash is a risk, but I'm FORCED to use a bank, it isn't optional, so I don't understand why they are allowed to make a profit?
If they were doing me a favour and looking after it ~(like a Goldsmith)~ they deserve the profit. But these guys are making money behind my back, risking EVERYTHING I've got and there's nothing I can do about it because it's not legal to work for cash-in-hand.
Have you read the definition for extortion? It's what a BANK does
@69salford69 -- It's an interesting question because parts of it are quite involved: (a) money started in prehistory as a produced commodity (silver, gold, copper, from mines); (b) private capitalism requires money investment in new ideas for expansion and this is self-regulated by a profitable return; (c) modern banks provide enormous advantages (automatic tellers, etc.) through investment spending themselves; (d) money is also gambled in Wall Street, away from productive goods and services.
So without banks, there would be no "start-up" capital for a small business. Meaning somebody couldn't go out and buy "X amount" of materials to meet "Y demand" because they can't get the initial finance.
There should be two types of banks. One should be a profit-making bank to handle business accounts,business loans, savings accounts, personal loans.
The other - a non-profit bank which handles people's personal accounts that hold their rent, bills and other finances.
@69salford69 -- You might have been happier (along with most of the rest of us) under the Glass-Steagall Act (1933), a Depression law which separated the types of banking and thereby maintained an unsurpassed, 66-year era of financial stability, until it was overturned by Gramm-Leach-Bliley in 1999.
@69salford69 -- It was a bipartisan swallowing of the old nonsense that the participants in financial markets should be unleashed because the free market always knows best. Essentially the continuation of Reaganism into the Clinton period. Phil Gramm also had a big hand in derivatives deregulation (Commodity Futures Modernization Act, 2000).
0_o ... Wonderful explanation and great intuitive graphics. What are your plans with this Ecolanguage? I think you are on to something brilliant that can serve to teach slow people (like me) about how economics works.
@leearnold You could also add a debt box which shows how much money we owe vs. how much money exist. If there is anything I wish people understood it's that given our banking system it is impossible to pay off all the debt because the money to pay it off literally doesn't exist.
thebestsumoeva 1 year ago
@thebestsumoeva -- Have a look at the videos on the Bush Tax Cuts and Social Security, which picture federal deficits and debt.
But it is possible to pay off debt, even it's more than the amount of money that exists. this is because it is paid off on installment, and the concurrent economic growth creates more value, and so creates more incomes. The only real problem is by incurring new debt, without ever paying off the old.
leearnold 1 year ago
@leearnold Economic growth does create more wealth but not more physical money. Physical money is only created when someone expands their debt and the bank prints the money to do so. The fact that they ask for interest back on the money that they just printed means in the long run you will pay them more money than they created hence why it is literally impossible to pay off deb as a whole. Someone may be out of debt but it is only because others have debt.
thebestsumoeva 1 year ago
@thebestsumoeva -- That is true: if suddenly, in one moment, all private debts in the world were paid off, there would be one (or some) remaining. This is the same process as in the video: we end up with more paper money than there is gold to back it up. Just substitute credit (which is the ability to incur a debt) for paper money, and you would see the same process.
I thought you were writing about government debt, which seems to be the topic on most people's minds.
leearnold 1 year ago
@leearnold While I don't like large amounts of debt I am not 100% against the government having debt in our system. If the government expanded it's debt it would make it easier for private citizens to pay off their debt. Now if the government expanded it's debt through tax breaks it's not so bad, but if they expand it through more spending then they are creating a distortion in the market which makes the market less efficient.
thebestsumoeva 1 year ago
@thebestsumoeva -- The choice between tax cuts and gov't spending depends upon two different things: (1) WHERE we are in the business cycle, and (2) HOW LONG it goes: i.e., whether the tax cuts or gov't spending is short-term or long-term. These give different answers.
At current U.S. levels of tax and spend, the efficiency results of mild policy changes are small. And the analysts NEVER balance them against the concomitant changes in economic welfare, to give a NET benefit/cost.
leearnold 1 year ago
@leearnold In general the government spending money that doesn't exist causes inflation. The deficit is a deficit no matter whether it comes from tax cuts or increased spending. With that said debt in our system has to grow because no matter who takes out the loan they end up owing more money back on the loan than the loan was worth hence we owe more money to banks than physically EXISTS. We have to increase debt in our system to prevent rampant deflation and economic disaster.
thebestsumoeva 1 year ago
@thebestsumoeva -- Yes, the gov't deficit can be from either tax cuts (with no spending cuts) or additional spending (with no tax hikes). But no, the gov't is not spending money that doesn't exist: it borrows it by selling T-bills. And gov't spending only causes inflation when it causes Aggregate Demand to exceed Aggregate Supply (not a problem at the moment, for example). Please study a regular textbook on economics before proceeding any further with this, so we can use the same definitions.
leearnold 1 year ago
Glass–Steagall Act
"The bill that ultimately repealed the Act was introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (Republican of Texas) and in the House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa) in 1999. The bills were passed by a Republican majority, basically following party lines by a 54–44 vote in the Senate." WIKI
MegajasmineR 1 year ago
By the way it's a good video you've got here thanks for taking the time to comment back
69salford69 1 year ago
How was there more money than the gold that it had to back up...... Pls explain
inapcha 3 years ago
Because (starting at 0:53) the banker, acting on his own behalf, made a new paper-money loan, based on the gold in the safe that the others never withdrew.
This is the principle of fractional reserve banking.
It is how new money enters the economy now. To control inflation, the central bank controls the rate of new loans made by other banks, to MATCH the growth of money to the growth of real goods and services. There are different ways to do that.
leearnold 3 years ago
thk u :)
inapcha 3 years ago
@leearnold
as you said "gold was too heavy" for people to carry around with them so the goldsmith looked after it, and that was the service he provided.
Nowadays, I have no gold to be looked after, so I go to work for "money". Money is NOT HEAVY. I would not struggle to carry my wages with me, so why does my money go straight into the bank without me even seeing it. I don't have a choice about it.
If the bank is making profit on my money, I want to see half the profit. ITS MY MONEY!!!!!!!
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69 -- Most people feel safer having a checking account and using paper checks, (or else using debit or credit cards) rather than risk carrying around large sums of paper cash.
If you want to share in the bank's profit, open a type of account that pays interest, such as a savings account.
leearnold 1 year ago
@leearnold
I understand carrying paper cash is a risk, but I'm FORCED to use a bank, it isn't optional, so I don't understand why they are allowed to make a profit?
If they were doing me a favour and looking after it ~(like a Goldsmith)~ they deserve the profit. But these guys are making money behind my back, risking EVERYTHING I've got and there's nothing I can do about it because it's not legal to work for cash-in-hand.
Have you read the definition for extortion? It's what a BANK does
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69 -- It's an interesting question because parts of it are quite involved: (a) money started in prehistory as a produced commodity (silver, gold, copper, from mines); (b) private capitalism requires money investment in new ideas for expansion and this is self-regulated by a profitable return; (c) modern banks provide enormous advantages (automatic tellers, etc.) through investment spending themselves; (d) money is also gambled in Wall Street, away from productive goods and services.
leearnold 1 year ago
@leearnold
So without banks, there would be no "start-up" capital for a small business. Meaning somebody couldn't go out and buy "X amount" of materials to meet "Y demand" because they can't get the initial finance.
There should be two types of banks. One should be a profit-making bank to handle business accounts,business loans, savings accounts, personal loans.
The other - a non-profit bank which handles people's personal accounts that hold their rent, bills and other finances.
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69 -- You might have been happier (along with most of the rest of us) under the Glass-Steagall Act (1933), a Depression law which separated the types of banking and thereby maintained an unsurpassed, 66-year era of financial stability, until it was overturned by Gramm-Leach-Bliley in 1999.
leearnold 1 year ago
@leearnold
Wow I've just done a quick 2 minutes into what the Glass-Steagall act was, and it is exactly what I meant.
How the hell did Bill Clinton get away with pushing that legislation?!
That's unreal.
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69 -- It was a bipartisan swallowing of the old nonsense that the participants in financial markets should be unleashed because the free market always knows best. Essentially the continuation of Reaganism into the Clinton period. Phil Gramm also had a big hand in derivatives deregulation (Commodity Futures Modernization Act, 2000).
leearnold 1 year ago
brilliant.
IslamicRageBoy 3 years ago
this is fantastic work
erkd1 4 years ago
0_o ... Wonderful explanation and great intuitive graphics. What are your plans with this Ecolanguage? I think you are on to something brilliant that can serve to teach slow people (like me) about how economics works.
kaitenuser 4 years ago 8