The Mark Steel Lectures-Karl Marx 1/3

[YoLninYo]

Long Live King Putin of Russia! Long Live the New Monarchy all over the world! sniff!

[stalinvlad]

I thought a dialectic was two sides discussing a problem to come to a truth

Beer or crisps never make salt, that was a really crap example of a dialectic process

[americaisbacktrump]

Marx was just a plagurist who ripped off the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and re-packaged it.

[DaKrazyKatt]

@americaisbacktrump And I wonder how you know that. Did you read the works of both Marx and these "Learned elders "and come to that conclusion by yourself, or are you taking someone elses interpretation and fitting into your biased and misconstrued philosophy? Gee, I wonder which it could be....

You're the reason the world is fucked up, you and your ignorance.

[Skadoosh417]

There's 4 BBCs?

[FSMnoodle]

Mark Steel is fucking brilliant. 

[MrDT1313]

its funny because communism is a stateless system

[sicoticosandro]

He starts with a wrong statement.. communism has never being implemented anywhere!! he never said how communism would be.. he simply predicted the abolition of classes, and as a result of that.. the no longer need of an state and communism as a logical step further. a total control over the activities of society by all members of society. Anyway. So factually, he wasn't wrong. And other thing. Greek democracy was a shitty system in ancient times too. Socialism can be perfected too.

[FireEyedMaidOfWar]

This is a slight unmeritable man, meet to be sent on errands: And, though others lay labours on this man, to ease ourselves of divers slanderous loads, he shall but bear them as the ass bears gold, to groan and sweat under the business, either led or driven, as they point him the way; and having brought their treasure where they will, then take they down his load and turn him off, like to the empty ass, to shake his ears and graze in commons.

[xtremelygoodlookin]

Mark Steel=hilarious, Marx=fuckin' mindblowing.

[lovepanic5555]

lol non asian bananas???!!

[SuperTruth77]

No, reading Francis Wheen's biography sent me here...

[digvijay0151]

Thumbs up if gkhamba sent you here.

[Bobsyermomsuncle]

I can hear Marx singing "I Love College" in German.

[ulitseful]

no entiendo nada de lo que dice este mequetrefe. Debe tener una pelota de tenis en la nariz....

[tazmhs]

"Ohh... He's gone all mainstream, now!" xD OMG!!!

[carsanookdotcom]

Merci beaucoup pour cetta excellente vulgarisation de philospohie.

Dr John Carsanook

Royaume de Thailande

[warriorprince1010]

Communism has created more poverty an unemployment than capitalism.

[stukya]

@warriorprince1010 90% of wealth in just 10% of the populations hands

[warriorprince1010]

@stukya Most of the wealth in capitalism is created by the people who have it. In socialism the wealth is created by the people for the government to have.

[stukya]

@warriorprince1010 i dont agree with that, the nike execs dont sow the trainers together, some poor sod in china does its, hes the one who creates the product that is exchanged for money, yet he will never be able to afford a pair. is that fair?

[heliotropezzz333]

@warriorprince1010 In captialist terms you need to look at unemployment on a global level as it is a global system. Communism has generally been confined to specific countries, and mainly tried in countries that were underdeveloped to start with. It also depends on how poverty is defined. In capitalism it is relative as well as absolute i.e some people may starve in the world but elsewhere there's just a huge disparity in wealth. In communist systems the idea is that people's

needs are met.

[warriorprince1010]

@heliotropezzz333 Oxymoron. Communism is in the same world, and not every country has capitalism. China and Russia were developed countries for their time, communism took them backwards. People starve in countries where they have communism, capitalism is mainly Europe and north America, and no one starves there. Poor attempt to demonize capitalism, which is just the right to own your own business.

[heliotropezzz333]

@warriorprince1010 China and Russia were not developed for their time. They were largely agrarian societies. China was still quite feudal and Russia still had slaved (serfs) and had been badly affected by involvement in the first world war. At that time it was possible to have a fairly isolated economy in countries that did not trade much with the outside world. No-one starved in Cuba or Tanzania when they became communist. I'm not supporting communism but let's get facts right

[warriorprince1010]

@heliotropezzz333 Cuba did have a modern famine from 1990 to 95 when the Russians stopped giving them food aid. They cured this by allowing farmers to sell their own foods in certain areas, capitalism again saved socialism. China and Russia were closer to the UK and Japan before communism than after. They went backwards during communism.

[heliotropezzz333]

@warriorprince1010 it's rubbish to say China and Russia were closer to the UK before communism. The U.K at the time had an empire and were a world power through the U.S stole their markets while they were at war. The Chinese were materially better off under communism though they had less freedom. Russia was worse off because rules by Stalin who was a tyrant. Cuba would have been better off but for the U.S blockade

[heliotropezzz333]

@warriorprince1010 I'm not trying to demonise capitalism just dealing in facts rather than prejudices. There has been starvation in Europe under capitalism e.g Ireland in 1847.

[heliotropezzz333]

@warriorprince1010 Of course all countries are in the same world but their economies are not connected in the same way. Your arguments are childish

[heliotropezzz333]

@warriorprince1010 it is not "accepted" that the BBC is left wing. That's just the view of right wingers who think their views should be the accepted ones. You are not a thinker who looks at evidence but merely a parader of your own prejudices

[warriorprince1010]

@heliotropezzz333 It is indeed accepted, quit being silly. I am a thinker where you are prejudiced against capitalism and thus try to demonize it.

[bapyou]

@warriorprince1010 " . . . you are prejudiced against capitalism and thus try to demonize it."

No demonization necessary. Capitalism is a demonic economic system the ultimate result of which is wealth accumulated in a few hands and the impoverishment of the mass of humanity. And those describe today's economic crisis exactly and precisely.

Want demonic behavior? Read the chapter in Marx's Capital on primitive accumulation wherein he describes the dispossession of fuedal serfs.

[warriorprince1010]

@bapyou Capitalism has given freedom and wealth to millions who own their own businesses and have access to the markets. Sadly due to currupr governments some do not and have poor access to education or a living wage, this is the fault of the state not capitlaism. Communist is wealth in the hands of the few...the government and their friends. The Soviet Union was less fair than Norway. Norway has free markets and good access to them.

[bapyou]

@warriorprince1010 Everything you've written is a lie.

>The end game of capitalism is wealth aggregated in the hands of a few. In the US more wealth is in fewer hands than any time since the '20s. Marx explains why.

>Capitalism has no connection to "freedom." The US has overthrown numerous democracies.

>Communism is wealth shared by all, not the few.

You write one lie after another. Maybe you could sell your lies for a profit? Oh wait: in the present day that's called journalism. Sorry!

[warriorprince1010]

@bapyou In Norway and Switzerland most people have a good job and live a good life. Democracy, good education and free markets has given this to them. So every point I made was right. Communism is state greed and excess, there is no freedom or equality, poor education and high murder rates. Look at the Soviet Union. So as we have shown capitlaism [Norway/Switzerland] creates equality in oppurtunity [education] whereas North Korea and the Soviet Union we do not see this.

[sicoticosandro]

@warriorprince1010 bad attempts of totalitarian regimes... but anyway.. i tell you.. sweden and norway regimes approach more to socialism and left wing, than bipartite democracies and right wing economically liberal countries as England and USA.

[warriorprince1010]

@sicoticosandro Sweden and Norway are in no way socialism, they are good democratic capitalism. All scandanavian countries are in the top 10 market liberated countries on earth, the most open free markets. Socialism is state ownership, and state planned economy. In no way are Scandanavian countries "socialist". The far left have no interest in doing good, so they can simply make up lies and hope no one checks them out. Spain and Greece are the most state planned economies.

[jayodoom]

@warriorprince1010 In other news, BLAHMAHMWUHCHUHSNUHBLAHBLUHWOO­OOOOOOOOOOO

[warriorprince1010]

@jayodoom I will take that as a victory for the decent people over extremists.

[marxian00]

Economic and philosophical manuscripts were not published until well after his death.

[albokk]

blow his statue up , commie fuck

[kessmanbrum]

VOTE BNP!

[philonous09]

Although Mark Steel crudely presented the ideas of Marx and Hegel, he still does it wonderfully by using simple examples and ideas that anyone can understand. I actually appreciate his attempts to understand the origins of socialist ideas, and I love how he explains the philosophy with simplicty such that anyone can understand.

[Mikeofdundee1987]

Marx did not write a step by step guide to equality, it wrote a theory about a process. This is why the vanguard system did not work. In short, that process is still going on today.

[geekorthodox9]

I see Karl liked a fried egg now and then. ;). Clever commentary brings history to life.

[sewagedweller]

hahahh this is why i love brits , their TV is awesome

[arzoyan]

Socialism , a moneyless,classless,stateless, system of society of production and cooperation for our collective needs and well being, Capitalism has developed the forces of production to a level that plenty is possible,good food to eat,good housing to live in,energy innovation to connect and move , its the relation of production,the wage slavery for the private gain of a minority that needs to transcend, A majority democratic movement shall take care of that sooner than later Revolution is ON

[arzoyan]

The historic of evolution of private property and the consequent emergence of state,class and family as the template of perpetual war,poverty,exploitation and suppression of our human potential for cooperation and harmony . Capitalism the wage slavery of immense humanity for the abstract process of Capital accumulation and concentration in the hands of a few, a system of brutalisation of life for private gain . We need to create a world of cooperation for our collective needs and wellbeing

[acerb45666555]

2- in the west, the only places true Communism can exist is on the Native reserves,(very close knit tribal communities),. these populations are not huge. so things could realistically function quite well. and its how they did things anyway before the Canadians, and Americans,(including Mexico, and the Southern Americas), messed up theyre unique village based traditional world.

[acerb45666555]

like the dude said, communism only can function in a small village type setting.=All For One! One For All! basic survival depends on such cohesive community practices...But, in a huge modern technological society, with everyone doin theyre own thing, Communism just will not function. the sense of village togetherness is extinct! so sad. all we can hope for is a kind of Capitalistic-Socialism.

[jnorth]

Funny and educational :D

[jinshiksung]

I thought that europe are democratic socialism

communism is like

if there is need

let's build factory

kind of stuff

what a system

kind of

I do not understand that why there are poor

[randy109]

In small tight knit groups like families or religious communes "Communism" works perfectly. Unfortunately, once humans without the common cause feelings (that can only be created by being "family" or "religious") are introduced to it the entire model breaks down. On paper, where each little participant gives 100% every day to the "cause", Communism is the best. In the real world, where people have any types of SELF INTEREST communism will never work. Sorry...

Great Vid/documentary!

[Dynamite229915]

great series wish they recommissioned this

[senorfarqueso]

what a ludicrous analogy: comparing the laws of gravity to political thought! gravity is outside of the realm of relevancy.

[SirHappyThe1st]

What a great funny intelligent video.

[Antepenult]

4:30 - hilarious.

[treid100182]

Dont get communism mixed with totalitarianism, like Russia's despotic history.

[BoysForPele1989]

@treid100182 You cannot have social justice with the state controling everything.

[kohprush]

what an irritating man

[Munnchbunnch]

this is a great series, thanks for posting.

[liberal4ever]

really great stuff. you won't find shows like this in the U.S.

[pw3uk]

Indeed you won,t but they would be greatly received, I'm sure!

[cogfy]

@liberal4ever Its true...Im Mexican and I guess I can say I support Communism, and Americans are so lethargic and stupified when it comes to Communism. They here someone say Communism and they think the person is a fucking terrorist.

[adam0593]

@liberal4ever lol they should put this on fox, bloody crazy right wing nuts! haha

[Kan2209]

@liberal4ever I wonder which one is responsible for which.

The lack of these programs being the cause of ignorance, or ignorance being the cause of the lack of these kind of programs?

Perhaps it's a bit of both combined. Thank goodness for the internets, where one can make the wise choise of learning what one wishes, and can demand factual informaiton. And thanks to everyone who posts this stuff.

[UnoRaza]

@liberal4ever If we were educated their nationalistic war bull shizer "culture" would BREAK.

So would their dependence on the psychology called "The Big Lie"; naivete nor the numerous distractions are not optional with this very Roman military industrial model!

[Shebaqueenof]

I am listening to all his lectures. Great work.

[Rhubarb156]

"AS RELAXATION"

legend. thanks alot for the upload.

[sweetpotos]

I love Karl Marx. Not just his ideas either, For at least two years now I've been obsessed with the man, and I truly love him, as much as a man can love any dead historical figure.

I wish more people would give him a chance. He was one of the greatest geniuses ever to live.

[kessmanbrum]

@sweetpotos Vote BNP :D

[SensiStarToaster]

@sweetpotos I know exactly how you feel, I discovered Marx, totally by chance, about 3 years ago, never been the same since. . .

[fjordland]

Good you see a new Mark Steel Fan on Youtube!

[WarningDontReadThis]

You did upload more :D:D

*claps*