I've been a big fan of your channel. I love your reviews. And knowing you were raised in the south and came out an atheist makes you one of -- if not first -- favorite YouTuber. I'm being raised in the south and I recently became an atheist.
I'm a Christian, and I don't care if you're an athiest, you seem like a nice guy and I like your videos. I don't care what anyone believes as long as they aren't a prick about it... and you sir, are no prick.
@MarkPFSwallowtail Well, I do care what other people believe, if they've given up hope on life and have decided to die, I think that makes them a horrible person, whom of which doesn't want to reason or care about his life, just fooling himself in some sort of twisted belief that everything is worth it, even know you're going to lose it in the end.
Look I'm sorry you've gotten so much crap for being an atheist. As a Christian I just want to say, we're not all like that! And I KNOW that's hard to believe because we can look like some of the most judgmental pricks the world has ever seen, shouting, "FORNICATOR," at someone for liking an anime where someone has cleavage. I admit I don't share in your beliefs, but that doesn't mean I can't respect you as a PERSON. So yeah, on behalf of the crap you had to put up with, sorry.
I assume what you mean is, "I don't believe in God...pending further evidence." Otherwise, you're saying you have positive proof there is no God of ANY KIND (you can't prove a negative). OR perhaps you just prefer that there was no God, in which case, I predict that as life goes on and you start to experience the deaths of loved ones, you might begin to prefer that there was a God, and start looking for reasons to believe your loved ones are in a better place.
@RainbowPieTV I've already experienced the death of many loved ones and friends. I don't believe in god but I don't claim to know whether there is one or not. There hasn't been anything that would convince me otherwise. You're right that I can't prove a negative, because the burden of proof is on the positive side. Sure, I'd prefer there to be an afterlife or something, but I can't just choose to believe those things. Belief is not a matter of choice.
@PaleoSteno It isn't? Twilight "chose" to believe in Pinkie's Pinkie sense despite how it contradicted her perception of the observable laws of her reality. I choose to believe in God but my parents have never shoved that down my throat. (Especially as I've gotten older.) Not trying to sound disrespectful or anything! I just think that out of all the things the human mind is capable of, choice is one of the most wonderful because they are what makes an individual who he or she is.
@ThePa1riot "It isn't? Twilight "chose" to believe in Pinkie's Pinkie sense despite how it contradicted her perception of the observable laws of her reality"
Apparently you haven't seen my video about that episode.
@PaleoSteno If you have no proof of either side, why choose the side where everything means nothing and all hope is lost? Say there's a 50/50 chance of god existing, shouldn't you at least try to get into heaven? Even if it doesn't exist, what do you have to lose? Once you die, you'll forget everything, meaning everything you enjoyed was lost, and was as good as if it never happened.
@PaleoSteno Merriam's version of belief "a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing", you can choose your state and habits of your mind, so I think your argument is flawed.
This is the result of people being closed minded and why I tend to want to stand in the middle. The evidence of evolution is all around us but at the same time science can not exist without being having an understanding that one exists and that actions have consequences to more than just the person giving the actions.
It saddens me that atheists are bing bullied atheist or not i will not tolerate ridicule for beliefs or lack of im a christian and i have atheists friends we may not share the same views but i want the good atheists to stop being attacked and to the atheists who attack live and let live ok? to paleo i admire you we may not agree but your a good man also dinosaurs are real they got bones...well tell that to the dude...
@Clonetos So you're friends with someone who has total opposite beliefs that you do? You choose to live, they chose to die, you tell them "Hey man, I don't care, go die! I'm fine with it.".
@fould13 i never said anything about death i am saying i am ok with him with being an atheist I am not going to condem him nor am i going to agree with him besides I like paleo he is a smart man with a heart of gold. He makes good arguments in his cartoon reviews and i gotta give it to him for loving biology because of him im getting interested in whales which wouldn't of happened if I had not met him. and yes i have friends who are gay/bi/atheists so what just because of that doesnt mean nothin
@Clonetos "i never said anything about death i am saying i am ok with him with being an atheist" Being an atheist means that you think you are going to die, since there is no god to save you. It's like you and a friend are walking on a train track, and then a train comes along. You get off, while your friend says, "Don't worry about it, there is no train."; and since you're okay with it, you let him get run over. True friends care about each other, so you are not a true friend if you don't care.
@fould13 Once again i never said anything about death YOU did I do not know him personally I am just a fan and viewer of his videos YOU are being a troll nay a parasprite so make like one and buzz off k because you make as much sense as a dog climbing a tree
That's how it is going. "You dont believe in GOD? SHAME ON YOU!You're sick" . Religion is for stupid people to get things who requires logic thinking out of their heads and replacing with ressurections/afterlifes and other stuff. That's good for both sides - church can control people , people are happy. End of story.
@Spocktacular96 Yeah, I get pretty tired of having to explain it to people here in NC. :P They teach how it became a secular nation in the history and american literature classes in college... did this many people just not go to college?
DNA can only change within the gene pool. You can breed dogs/whatever for a millenia, place them in all sorts of enviroments, but in the end. Its still a dog/whatever.
@Unit2209 If you're no expert, then please stop acting like you know what DNA can and can't do. One of my biology professors is getting his PhD focusing on DNA sequencing. If you really want to know about DNA and what it can and can't do, please ask an expert in that field of biology. I'm not an expert on it either, but I do know the most basic facts about it.
@PaleoSteno You dont need to be a expert to understand it. Im not going into DNA yet I understand it very well. And there is no frameshift mutations by insertions that breaks the rule that the DNA is confined to the gene pool.
@Unit2209 I'm a bit confused by what kind of point you're trying to make. Of course two different species' gene pools can't cross each other, but there is still variation of alleles within a population, so you still get slight change to their DNA throughout successive generations. We can identify the specific breed of a dog, whether it be a chihuahua or a basset hound, because of the differences in their DNA. But both can be traced back to wolf ancestors.
@Unit2209 With enough variation within a long period of time, then... yeah, every living thing can derive from cells evolving into various mutli-cellular forms of life. Primitive eukaryotic protists were the starting point for the multi-cellular animals, plants and fungi that we see today.
@PaleoSteno But thats DNA mutating into something usefull. Forgive me if im rude, But as I see it its because of the lack of evidence evolutionists have to fall back on the idea that *maybe* just maybe 100,00,000,000 years ago life sprouted from nothing (spontaneous generation) and mutated into what we see today. Because of this unclear position its now in, a huge amout of evidence is needed to disprove/prove evolution. It will take life times to find the proof, so thats why neither side tries.
@Unit2209 The thing is... that there are models for abiogenesis and tests being done to figure out just how life started. As Neil deGrasse Tyson once said, "Just because we don't know how to do it in the lab doesn't mean nature had problems." It's just another natural process that we have yet to emulate perfectly in the lab. You keep saying that there isn't a huge amount of evidence for evolution when there actually is, but when you get a tiny gap in the theory you assume that it's wrong.
@PaleoSteno Have they made any progress? Now we know that the fossil record does not prove or support evolution. We can only find very little evidince of evolution in nature, and that is all staying within the gene pool. Look into the inner workings of a Ameba. Its the simplest creature on planet earth, and yet its so complex that if only 1 of its parts wasnt there or stopped working the entire cell would die. How could it have evolved into that step by step when that would have killed it.
@Unit2209 But the fossil record DOES support evolution. Did you just ignore my list of transitional forms I gave you? And there's tons of evidence for evolution in nature by our homologous structures, the similarity of our DNA with related species, the geographic distribution of species. And the argument for the amoeba is an argument for irreducible complexity, which has been debunked a thousand times over, because those parts can serve as a different purpose if taken apart into simpler workings
@PaleoSteno But you should be aware that their neatly laid out strata-age chart exists in full form nowhere in nature! It’s not observable. It’s inferred from their evolutionary presuppositions. The Fossil Record Itself Shows that Rapid Burial and Preservation are Key factors in Fossilization. (Flood) We even have horseshoe crab tracks preseved in stone. How did that escape erasure if stone takes millions of years to form out of mud?
LOL im sorry all, I was arguing stupidly and didn't tell you this. (sorry I forgot)
DNA can't add DNA to its self its impossible, evolution requires the DNA to change into and grow (which cant happen) into more DNA. DNA can change very slighty but only within its gene pool. Im sorry I wasted your time with all that other stuff when I could of said this. (Please don't say it could of mutated.)
@Unit2209 And just HOW does this refute evolution when you even say that DNA can change? Even if only slightly - then that is still a change. Later (as in a few millennia and many generations) this can change further.... Seriously - you are being wilfully ignorant of the FACT of evolution. You do know of course that the RC Church also accept evolution as fact don't you? You are trotting out "arguments that have been debunked many times over
@SteveW668 No there is no way I, nor anyone, can prove the bible. But I know that neither can Evolution. Personally, im jealous of you guys. It takes a hell of a lot more faith to believe in Evolution than a God.
We may have a lot more fossils then Darwins time but we still dont have the links. Acording to Darwin, evolution is a very slow step by step process that will take maney years to even see a slight change. If that is so, then there should be evidence all around us. The thing is that there is none, we may find 2 or 3 fossils that fit in but what happend to the other 50,000 creatures that we should be seeing?
@PaleoSteno I see Paleo but if Evolution is correct there should be maney more variations of the animals. We should be finding much more than we are. Im going to assume that all of these creatures have are proven to have existed.
@Unit2209 There are many variations of those animals. The family basilosauridae of the ancient archeocetes are an extinct family of cetaceans that didn't survive. There are many different variations of elephants and horses in the fossil record of strange animals that we don't see today but branched off from a common ancestor of modern horses and elephants. Is that the kind of variation you are talking about?
@Unit2209 "We may have a lot more fossils then Darwins time but we still dont have the links." - So? Not proof of god.
"Acording to Darwin, evolution is a very slow step by step process that will take maney years to even see a slight change." - Correct.
"If that is so, then there should be evidence all around us. " - Not necessarily
"The thing is that there is none, ... but what happend to the other 50,000 creatures that we should be seeing?" - Have a look at the clip this is in response to.
@Unit2209 Look in a mirror. Willfull ignorance is the worst kind. YOU and I are examples of evolution. There is plenty of evidence to support it. You got any evidence for your "god"? Thought not.
@SteveW668 You do know that evolution had to start? You cant have evolution without spontaneous generation. Oh and Evolution is not a fact, science can only get it to the theory stage.
@Unit2209 And here you utterly and completely FAIL to understand that the term "theory" when used in science and in particular in this case, does NOT mean what you think it does, ie: a hypothesis. Evolution is FACT. The term theory is used as the best explanation as to how those facts came to be. With your way of thinking that "evolution is just a theory" then will you please stop using gravity...?
I know what you mean, I see a lot of people who dont know how to handle things so they just get mad and yell or call you things. But me I just cant belive in spontaneous generation. So im going with God.
@Unit2209 It isn't "spontaneous generation" - clearly you have no understanding of evolution through natural selection - which has been proven to be fact. Just because you don't understand something you equate the explanation to "god"? You know that argument fails very badly don't you? It's a logical fallacy called "god of the gaps" and it also fails. Do yourself a big favour and go and actually read some science textbooks.
I give you a rather well received bravado for the video, however being a good Sumeritan doesn't really have anything to do with religion in general, just sayin.
@moonlitocean727july You shouldn't be disappointed in someone expressing an opposing view than yours. I also think you missed the point of the video which seems to show how he feels scrutinized for his lack of belief. Doing the exact thing he is expressing in his video is not proving him wrong. Also saying there is a god and proving there is a god are two completely different things. People can have different opinions, maybe we should be nice to each other and not judge like the bible says...
@moonlitocean727july Unfortunately (for you maybe) Josh does not have to prove there is no god. People claiming that god exists are the ones with the burden of proof. Using quite simple logic one CAN, however, prove the non-existence of the Abrahamic god. Throughout all mankind's history there has not been one shred of evidence to support the notion that ANY god exists.
I find it sad that you find disappointment that Josh is being true to himself and brave enough to state his non-belief.
I'm and atheist as well and people tend to think that I'm a satanist. It's amazing how they've failed to do their research on the religion: satanist believe in neither god nor satan; it's about self-preservation and self-dependency. But what do I know, I'm just an Atheist....
I'm an atheist, and while I haven't heard some of those more extreme statements, I have had to deal with some bullshit from people, simply for saying I didn't believe in god. It's really ridiculous how some people can't get over the fact that not everyone believes in a god or higher power.
I wouldnt worry to much about those people, I'm a creationist myself and I wouldnt say things like that, its over the top, if your a good person, who cares if your an atheist.
@PaleoSteno Idunno, it makes sense. How does one even go about proving or disproving the existence of a cosmic deity/force/will? That whole scientific skepticism thing works both ways.
Here's the thing though, if everything is quantifiable, then what does that say about free will? Cuz if you can predict everything that will happen once you've worked out the proper equations, then nothing is truly chosen at all, right? :/
I've been a big fan of your channel. I love your reviews. And knowing you were raised in the south and came out an atheist makes you one of -- if not first -- favorite YouTuber. I'm being raised in the south and I recently became an atheist.
MuSiCLoVeR69x666 18 hours ago
I'm a Christian, and I don't care if you're an athiest, you seem like a nice guy and I like your videos. I don't care what anyone believes as long as they aren't a prick about it... and you sir, are no prick.
MarkPFSwallowtail 5 days ago
@MarkPFSwallowtail Well, I do care what other people believe, if they've given up hope on life and have decided to die, I think that makes them a horrible person, whom of which doesn't want to reason or care about his life, just fooling himself in some sort of twisted belief that everything is worth it, even know you're going to lose it in the end.
fould13 9 hours ago
Look I'm sorry you've gotten so much crap for being an atheist. As a Christian I just want to say, we're not all like that! And I KNOW that's hard to believe because we can look like some of the most judgmental pricks the world has ever seen, shouting, "FORNICATOR," at someone for liking an anime where someone has cleavage. I admit I don't share in your beliefs, but that doesn't mean I can't respect you as a PERSON. So yeah, on behalf of the crap you had to put up with, sorry.
TECH097 2 weeks ago
I can relate 100%
Meowabunga 1 month ago
Why are christans so extreme anyways? They act like bullies so much, that I'm actually thinking of becoming a Budhist just out of spite.
Mammalmage 1 month ago
@Mammalmage Yeah unfortunately thats true with a lot of Christians, so it makes me angry when people assume im THAT type of Christian.
PhatAfroDude 1 month ago in playlist More videos from PaleoSteno
......what did i just watch?
spinosaurus46 1 month ago
I assume what you mean is, "I don't believe in God...pending further evidence." Otherwise, you're saying you have positive proof there is no God of ANY KIND (you can't prove a negative). OR perhaps you just prefer that there was no God, in which case, I predict that as life goes on and you start to experience the deaths of loved ones, you might begin to prefer that there was a God, and start looking for reasons to believe your loved ones are in a better place.
RainbowPieTV 1 month ago
@RainbowPieTV I've already experienced the death of many loved ones and friends. I don't believe in god but I don't claim to know whether there is one or not. There hasn't been anything that would convince me otherwise. You're right that I can't prove a negative, because the burden of proof is on the positive side. Sure, I'd prefer there to be an afterlife or something, but I can't just choose to believe those things. Belief is not a matter of choice.
PaleoSteno 1 month ago
@PaleoSteno It isn't? Twilight "chose" to believe in Pinkie's Pinkie sense despite how it contradicted her perception of the observable laws of her reality. I choose to believe in God but my parents have never shoved that down my throat. (Especially as I've gotten older.) Not trying to sound disrespectful or anything! I just think that out of all the things the human mind is capable of, choice is one of the most wonderful because they are what makes an individual who he or she is.
ThePa1riot 1 month ago
@ThePa1riot "It isn't? Twilight "chose" to believe in Pinkie's Pinkie sense despite how it contradicted her perception of the observable laws of her reality"
Apparently you haven't seen my video about that episode.
PaleoSteno 1 month ago
@PaleoSteno I'm afraid I didn't either, I had my own hang ups about that one too though.
ThePa1riot 1 month ago
@PaleoSteno If you have no proof of either side, why choose the side where everything means nothing and all hope is lost? Say there's a 50/50 chance of god existing, shouldn't you at least try to get into heaven? Even if it doesn't exist, what do you have to lose? Once you die, you'll forget everything, meaning everything you enjoyed was lost, and was as good as if it never happened.
fould13 9 hours ago
@PaleoSteno Merriam's version of belief "a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing", you can choose your state and habits of your mind, so I think your argument is flawed.
fould13 9 hours ago
This is the result of people being closed minded and why I tend to want to stand in the middle. The evidence of evolution is all around us but at the same time science can not exist without being having an understanding that one exists and that actions have consequences to more than just the person giving the actions.
randolfgarard 2 months ago
It saddens me that atheists are bing bullied atheist or not i will not tolerate ridicule for beliefs or lack of im a christian and i have atheists friends we may not share the same views but i want the good atheists to stop being attacked and to the atheists who attack live and let live ok? to paleo i admire you we may not agree but your a good man also dinosaurs are real they got bones...well tell that to the dude...
Clonetos 3 months ago
@Clonetos So you're friends with someone who has total opposite beliefs that you do? You choose to live, they chose to die, you tell them "Hey man, I don't care, go die! I'm fine with it.".
fould13 9 hours ago
@fould13 i never said anything about death i am saying i am ok with him with being an atheist I am not going to condem him nor am i going to agree with him besides I like paleo he is a smart man with a heart of gold. He makes good arguments in his cartoon reviews and i gotta give it to him for loving biology because of him im getting interested in whales which wouldn't of happened if I had not met him. and yes i have friends who are gay/bi/atheists so what just because of that doesnt mean nothin
Clonetos 9 hours ago
@Clonetos "i never said anything about death i am saying i am ok with him with being an atheist" Being an atheist means that you think you are going to die, since there is no god to save you. It's like you and a friend are walking on a train track, and then a train comes along. You get off, while your friend says, "Don't worry about it, there is no train."; and since you're okay with it, you let him get run over. True friends care about each other, so you are not a true friend if you don't care.
fould13 4 minutes ago
@fould13 Once again i never said anything about death YOU did I do not know him personally I am just a fan and viewer of his videos YOU are being a troll nay a parasprite so make like one and buzz off k because you make as much sense as a dog climbing a tree
Clonetos 15 seconds ago
That was epic.
CognizantPsyche 3 months ago
That's how it is going. "You dont believe in GOD? SHAME ON YOU!You're sick" . Religion is for stupid people to get things who requires logic thinking out of their heads and replacing with ressurections/afterlifes and other stuff. That's good for both sides - church can control people , people are happy. End of story.
zippeddd 4 months ago
Ha! That was the coolest "I'm an atheist" video I've ever seen! Thanks!
joe3eagles 6 months ago
@joe3eagles Thanks! :D Glad you liked it!
PaleoSteno 6 months ago
I'm pretty sure my favorite was "this is a Christian country!" When in fact ever since it inception America has been a secular one
Spocktacular96 6 months ago
@Spocktacular96 Yeah, I get pretty tired of having to explain it to people here in NC. :P They teach how it became a secular nation in the history and american literature classes in college... did this many people just not go to college?
PaleoSteno 6 months ago
@PaleoSteno I suppose not. It's easier to be ignorant without an education. Only the ignorant think that ignorance is bliss. I think :)
Spocktacular96 6 months ago
That was hilarious!
ChickityChoice 6 months ago
watch?v=pFCSgRULEkk
"Logical evidences for Islam"
Why is there A Creator? Why is there a religion? Why Islam is the true religion?
shncsr 6 months ago
@ThatHikikomoriGuy
Thanks! :D
PaleoSteno 6 months ago
LMAO this was awesome :) subbed!
aposticism 7 months ago
@aposticism Thank you! :D
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@aposticism
You can laugh all you want, but your ass is going to hell!!!
@PaleoSteno
FINALLY a whale fan who doesn't believe in God and all that spiritual bullshit. So many cetacean trainers are super religious FYI. It kinda sucks.
RingneckDoveFan 7 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan
You'd be surprised at how many cetacean fanatics that are creationist. :/ It's scary.
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@PaleoSteno
lol and annoying.
So how did you get into atheism?
RingneckDoveFan 7 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan
Short answer: Dinosaurs and my interest in paleontology.
Long answer: You'll have to wait, because I'll be making a video about it eventually. :P
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
Im done for tonight. It was great talking to you and I hope we both learned somthing. I know I did. ;D
Unit2209 7 months ago
DNA can only change within the gene pool. You can breed dogs/whatever for a millenia, place them in all sorts of enviroments, but in the end. Its still a dog/whatever.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 You didn't answer my question. Are you aware of frameshift mutations by insertions?
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@PaleoSteno Oh im sorry. Yes, im no expert but I understand most of it.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 If you're no expert, then please stop acting like you know what DNA can and can't do. One of my biology professors is getting his PhD focusing on DNA sequencing. If you really want to know about DNA and what it can and can't do, please ask an expert in that field of biology. I'm not an expert on it either, but I do know the most basic facts about it.
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@PaleoSteno You dont need to be a expert to understand it. Im not going into DNA yet I understand it very well. And there is no frameshift mutations by insertions that breaks the rule that the DNA is confined to the gene pool.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 I'm a bit confused by what kind of point you're trying to make. Of course two different species' gene pools can't cross each other, but there is still variation of alleles within a population, so you still get slight change to their DNA throughout successive generations. We can identify the specific breed of a dog, whether it be a chihuahua or a basset hound, because of the differences in their DNA. But both can be traced back to wolf ancestors.
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@PaleoSteno My point is everything couldnt of come from cells living in the water.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 With enough variation within a long period of time, then... yeah, every living thing can derive from cells evolving into various mutli-cellular forms of life. Primitive eukaryotic protists were the starting point for the multi-cellular animals, plants and fungi that we see today.
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@PaleoSteno But thats DNA mutating into something usefull. Forgive me if im rude, But as I see it its because of the lack of evidence evolutionists have to fall back on the idea that *maybe* just maybe 100,00,000,000 years ago life sprouted from nothing (spontaneous generation) and mutated into what we see today. Because of this unclear position its now in, a huge amout of evidence is needed to disprove/prove evolution. It will take life times to find the proof, so thats why neither side tries.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 The thing is... that there are models for abiogenesis and tests being done to figure out just how life started. As Neil deGrasse Tyson once said, "Just because we don't know how to do it in the lab doesn't mean nature had problems." It's just another natural process that we have yet to emulate perfectly in the lab. You keep saying that there isn't a huge amount of evidence for evolution when there actually is, but when you get a tiny gap in the theory you assume that it's wrong.
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@PaleoSteno Have they made any progress? Now we know that the fossil record does not prove or support evolution. We can only find very little evidince of evolution in nature, and that is all staying within the gene pool. Look into the inner workings of a Ameba. Its the simplest creature on planet earth, and yet its so complex that if only 1 of its parts wasnt there or stopped working the entire cell would die. How could it have evolved into that step by step when that would have killed it.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 But the fossil record DOES support evolution. Did you just ignore my list of transitional forms I gave you? And there's tons of evidence for evolution in nature by our homologous structures, the similarity of our DNA with related species, the geographic distribution of species. And the argument for the amoeba is an argument for irreducible complexity, which has been debunked a thousand times over, because those parts can serve as a different purpose if taken apart into simpler workings
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@PaleoSteno But you should be aware that their neatly laid out strata-age chart exists in full form nowhere in nature! It’s not observable. It’s inferred from their evolutionary presuppositions. The Fossil Record Itself Shows that Rapid Burial and Preservation are Key factors in Fossilization. (Flood) We even have horseshoe crab tracks preseved in stone. How did that escape erasure if stone takes millions of years to form out of mud?
Unit2209 7 months ago
LOL im sorry all, I was arguing stupidly and didn't tell you this. (sorry I forgot)
DNA can't add DNA to its self its impossible, evolution requires the DNA to change into and grow (which cant happen) into more DNA. DNA can change very slighty but only within its gene pool. Im sorry I wasted your time with all that other stuff when I could of said this. (Please don't say it could of mutated.)
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 Are you even aware of frameshift mutations by insertions?
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@PaleoSteno Can you tell me a frameshift mutation (by insertions) that worked? (By that I mean better than it was.)
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 And just HOW does this refute evolution when you even say that DNA can change? Even if only slightly - then that is still a change. Later (as in a few millennia and many generations) this can change further.... Seriously - you are being wilfully ignorant of the FACT of evolution. You do know of course that the RC Church also accept evolution as fact don't you? You are trotting out "arguments that have been debunked many times over
SteveW668 7 months ago
@SteveW668 No there is no way I, nor anyone, can prove the bible. But I know that neither can Evolution. Personally, im jealous of you guys. It takes a hell of a lot more faith to believe in Evolution than a God.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 Troll - Thanks for playing.
SteveW668 7 months ago
@SteveW668 The Bible.
If you cant tell me anything then,
The Fossil Record
We may have a lot more fossils then Darwins time but we still dont have the links. Acording to Darwin, evolution is a very slow step by step process that will take maney years to even see a slight change. If that is so, then there should be evidence all around us. The thing is that there is none, we may find 2 or 3 fossils that fit in but what happend to the other 50,000 creatures that we should be seeing?
What evidence?
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209
From fish to land animals: Osteolepis, Tiktaalik, Ventastega, Ichthyostega, Eryops
From land mammals to Whales: Pakicetus, Ambulocetus, Artiocetus, Dorudon, Aetiocetus
From apes to Humans: Ardipithecus, Australopithecus, Homo habilis, Homo erectus
And those are just a few, there are hundreds more.
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@PaleoSteno I see Paleo but if Evolution is correct there should be maney more variations of the animals. We should be finding much more than we are. Im going to assume that all of these creatures have are proven to have existed.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 There are many variations of those animals. The family basilosauridae of the ancient archeocetes are an extinct family of cetaceans that didn't survive. There are many different variations of elephants and horses in the fossil record of strange animals that we don't see today but branched off from a common ancestor of modern horses and elephants. Is that the kind of variation you are talking about?
PaleoSteno 7 months ago
@Unit2209 "We may have a lot more fossils then Darwins time but we still dont have the links." - So? Not proof of god.
"Acording to Darwin, evolution is a very slow step by step process that will take maney years to even see a slight change." - Correct.
"If that is so, then there should be evidence all around us. " - Not necessarily
"The thing is that there is none, ... but what happend to the other 50,000 creatures that we should be seeing?" - Have a look at the clip this is in response to.
SteveW668 7 months ago
@Unit2209 "The Bible" - This is NOT evidence.
"What evidence?" - YOU and I are evidence of evolution. As I said - willfull ignorance.
SteveW668 7 months ago
@SteveW668
Im sorry steve but Evolution just isnt a fact, there isnt enough evidence to support it. If you have a example a evidence please show me.
And I still dont like spontaneous generation.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 Look in a mirror. Willfull ignorance is the worst kind. YOU and I are examples of evolution. There is plenty of evidence to support it. You got any evidence for your "god"? Thought not.
SteveW668 7 months ago
@Unit2209 Spontaneous generation in the way that "god" poofed everything into existence...?
SteveW668 7 months ago
@SteveW668 You do know that evolution had to start? You cant have evolution without spontaneous generation. Oh and Evolution is not a fact, science can only get it to the theory stage.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 And here you utterly and completely FAIL to understand that the term "theory" when used in science and in particular in this case, does NOT mean what you think it does, ie: a hypothesis. Evolution is FACT. The term theory is used as the best explanation as to how those facts came to be. With your way of thinking that "evolution is just a theory" then will you please stop using gravity...?
SteveW668 7 months ago
I know what you mean, I see a lot of people who dont know how to handle things so they just get mad and yell or call you things. But me I just cant belive in spontaneous generation. So im going with God.
Unit2209 7 months ago
@Unit2209 It isn't "spontaneous generation" - clearly you have no understanding of evolution through natural selection - which has been proven to be fact. Just because you don't understand something you equate the explanation to "god"? You know that argument fails very badly don't you? It's a logical fallacy called "god of the gaps" and it also fails. Do yourself a big favour and go and actually read some science textbooks.
SteveW668 7 months ago
I give you a rather well received bravado for the video, however being a good Sumeritan doesn't really have anything to do with religion in general, just sayin.
Nightsblood192 7 months ago
I am (mildly) Norse pagan and I salute you!
Fourmalletz 8 months ago
Maybe I did miss the point in the video
moonlitocean727july 8 months ago
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moonlitocean727july 8 months ago
@moonlitocean727july
This person, who seems like a really nice guy to me, if I knew him I'd be really proud of him for being true to himself.
monkeyshine89 8 months ago
You cant prove a negative, the burden of proof lies on the believer..
Anyway doing drugs doesn't make you a bad person ;(
SrgtReaper 8 months ago
@SrgtReaper Doing drugs doesn't make you bad. It just makes you weak.
Fourmalletz 8 months ago
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moonlitocean727july 8 months ago
@moonlitocean727july You shouldn't be disappointed in someone expressing an opposing view than yours. I also think you missed the point of the video which seems to show how he feels scrutinized for his lack of belief. Doing the exact thing he is expressing in his video is not proving him wrong. Also saying there is a god and proving there is a god are two completely different things. People can have different opinions, maybe we should be nice to each other and not judge like the bible says...
lucradiste 8 months ago
@moonlitocean727july Unfortunately (for you maybe) Josh does not have to prove there is no god. People claiming that god exists are the ones with the burden of proof. Using quite simple logic one CAN, however, prove the non-existence of the Abrahamic god. Throughout all mankind's history there has not been one shred of evidence to support the notion that ANY god exists.
I find it sad that you find disappointment that Josh is being true to himself and brave enough to state his non-belief.
SteveW668 8 months ago
I'm and atheist as well and people tend to think that I'm a satanist. It's amazing how they've failed to do their research on the religion: satanist believe in neither god nor satan; it's about self-preservation and self-dependency. But what do I know, I'm just an Atheist....
placebogiver 8 months ago
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OrcaOrlando 8 months ago
I'm an atheist, and while I haven't heard some of those more extreme statements, I have had to deal with some bullshit from people, simply for saying I didn't believe in god. It's really ridiculous how some people can't get over the fact that not everyone believes in a god or higher power.
Xpert74 8 months ago
I wouldnt worry to much about those people, I'm a creationist myself and I wouldnt say things like that, its over the top, if your a good person, who cares if your an atheist.
OrcaOrlando 8 months ago
What about agnostics?
ClasticOne 8 months ago
@ClasticOne
They're just sort of shrugged at, I used to say I was one to hide the fact that I was an atheist.
PaleoSteno 8 months ago
@PaleoSteno Idunno, it makes sense. How does one even go about proving or disproving the existence of a cosmic deity/force/will? That whole scientific skepticism thing works both ways.
Here's the thing though, if everything is quantifiable, then what does that say about free will? Cuz if you can predict everything that will happen once you've worked out the proper equations, then nothing is truly chosen at all, right? :/
ClasticOne 8 months ago
That was great. xD
CLSwain 8 months ago