The soy milk story - I

[JoshyC12G]

soy is mostly fine given that it is fermented...which most traditional soy containing foods are. in its natural state it is unfit for human consumption and is loaded with chemicals that inhibit your bodies ability to digest protien and can cause thyroid problems......which we have tons of in america....because we dont care or research or even know what we are eating half the time....well all the time.

[luchelle13]

okkkkkkkkkaaaayyyyy.. i dont understand a thing. some subtitles would be helpful because i drink soy everyday so far no bad side effects, it even make my skin clear and blemish free.

[CalifaJohn]

I would love to see a translation of this because soy is such an integral part of the Chinese diet. They potentially have more data on soy consumption than we do in the west.

[marcus3379]

@CalifaJohn The east Asians ferment soy which removes the harmful estrogenizing elements. The west does not and suffers the consequences.

[CalifaJohn]

@marcus3379  Tofu is a staple in Asia and soy milk is common, but they are not fermented like soy sauce or miso. I have seen research that suggests phytoestrogens may be responsible for lower rates of estrogen-initiated breast, ovarian and uterine cancer in Asian women with the suggested mechanism being competitive binding at estrogen receptors with phytoestrogens causing less cell activation than endogenous estrogen. Do you have any conflicting info?

[marcus3379]

@CalifaJohn Tofu is not a staple in East Asia, they eat it in small amounts with fish broth, not in large quantities in the place of animal protein. At best they use it as a condiment. I am talking about traditional folk cuisine though, it's possible they are westernizing their diet, but I didn't see it the few times I've been over there, and have never heard about it from friends. The best resource I've found that archives the related studies is the Weston Price Foundation.

[CalifaJohn]

@marcus3379 Thanks. I always thought of tofu being in miso soup, pad thai, and other dishes that are eaten daily.

[johnny75803]

@CalifaJohn Soy-based foods are staple foods in Asia. I don't why exactly there is a sudden wave of anti-soy campaigns permeating throughout the Western world. It's odd. I just did a quick search of soy/soya consumption on PubMed's search engine and the first three links validated my statement.

First one: "Soy foods are a traditional staple of Asian diets..."

2nd. "Soy foods have been a staple in Asia for centuries..'' 3rd. "In most Asian countries soy products have become staples..."

[CalifaJohn]

@johnny75803 My suspicion jumps immediately to possible "information" (propaganda) campaigns by large industrial food manufacturers who want to manipulate markets. I want to know who funded the research saying that soy is not a healthy food.

[CalifaJohn]

@johnny75803 Right, I can think of many traditional dishes that include soy: miso soup, pad thai (containing tofu and soy sprouts), inari maki, eggplant tofu, anything with soy sauce (including teriyaki), edamame, soy milk, tempeh, miso marinades and dressings, and the list goes on.